Liverpool and Manchester may have voted to remain but why did so much of the north of England vote to Brexit?
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@DC-wp6oj4 жыл бұрын
Why would Brexit change how the Conservatives treat Sunderland? Wont change a bit.
@michaeltagg4924 жыл бұрын
The one thing that seems to be totally disconnected is all these issues are domestic and nothing to do with the EU. By all means vote in a hard left party to redress the inequality but voting to leave the EU only plays into the right wing Tories hands.
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
Exactly; their ignorance and stupidity are astounding.
@alexanderromanov737 Жыл бұрын
And now, without any connection to the worlds biggest market of half a billion wealthy customers in the EU, just one days lorry ride away from the British farms and factories, they are all f*cked. Good. I hope they all get rickets.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
All the issues are to do with the EU somewhere along the chain
@michaeltagg492 Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz How?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@michaeltagg492 OK, after 50 years of top down EU bureaucracy our civil servants and our politicians are used to working in a certain way. They have to re-learn the British way and the basics of statescraft and law-making all over again. The European default has always been ‘’everything is forbidden unless explicitly allowed’ hence the overt bureaucratic minutae the EU us famous for. But English Common Law works on the principle that ‘everything is allowed unless expressly forbidden’. Being in the EU has been warping the mobs of our politicians and our people for 50 years so there is an unnatural disconnect between our centuries old constitutional assumptions and how things are now done. This has to be resolved because the two are naturally in conflict from their very foundations.
@jt951242 жыл бұрын
They have legitimate complaints, but what they have done about it is making it worse. They have voted for the thing the rich and powerful wanted. They would have been better off voting for the UK govt to be disbanded and have rule by EU. The Brexiteers are not about the common man at all, EU is - imperfectly, but more than BJ, Rees-Mogg, etc.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
You’re hilarious. You think Brexit was a plot by the 1%? 😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄 How thick can you be??? No, the derangement of the 1% since the plebs didn’t do as they were told - THAT’S what’s been very clear.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp7 ай бұрын
The EU is run in the interests of major corporations but you middle class types wont listen!
@bbbf09 Жыл бұрын
Would like a revisit in 2023 to ask each of these people views now. Not so enthused I would imagine.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Stuff ups and Machiavellian machinations of the establishment doesn’t make their choice wrong - it just makes them depressed that their vote really doesn’t count for anything - the establishment does what it wants regardless. The trust in democracy has gone and the shutters have fallen from their eyes
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp7 ай бұрын
Aww still sulking about losing Sorry mate
@bbbf097 ай бұрын
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp Ah - like telling someone who should have had a hip replacement 10 years - still grumbling about your hip? Don't think I did lose. The UK did. I was pinpoint on the mark about ultimate outcome. The tiny margin who voted leave have a lot to answer for damaging this country. You could almost consider them as unpatriotic. I know most leavers naively expected things to improve in general - but there were some I know who actually wanted the country to burn. They got their wish. p.s. I know that according to polls 10% of UK population still believe brexit is going very well. Maybe you are one? I'd like to know why?
@mrjohncharlesbrown Жыл бұрын
It's not a lack of education BUT intelligence and ignorance not being interested in what is going on outside of the UK, it's the biggest mistake ever made
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
No it’s not. In time the UK will once again be vindicated as the canary in the coalmine and the first strike back of many by the people against ever increasing centralisation of power. The British public’s instincts are good and have been proven right over centuries. NEVER underestimate the British public.
@scots_knight4706 Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz More like Britain will end up back being the sick man of Europe like the seventies. The Nissan car plant that so many of them work at would never have been built without being in Europe and the single market, also now with rules of origins getting stricter a 10% tariff to export into Europe is looming. That's their main market as well. Large trading blocks exist, the EU being our local one, a protest vote by a few million British people ain't going to change what 27 countries and over 448 million people want to do.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@scots_knight4706 I’m not anti trade bloc or have any particular animosity towards the EU, I reluctantly voted Renain so I don’t feel I have an axe to grind either way. Some people like to be independent and some like being part of a large behemoth of a security blanket - both are legitimate choices not just one of them. However the whole ‘sick man of Europe’ was always a spiteful crock of a term when Britain was struggling a bit post war (understandably) - other European countries struggle as much or more and don’t get called ‘sick’ so that’s a grossly prejudicial statement. Second, Nissan have stayed in the UK for multiple reasons. When there was a push for us to go into the Euro there were headlines about Nissan threatening to pull out and us being left behind on the periphery of the eurozone - and it was all a load of bollix then. Not going into the Euro has not negatively impacted us at all. Yet the propaganda of the time sounded very ‘Brexit like’ ie we’re little Englanders, backward etc etc. if you fall for such blatant propaganda that’s on you.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@scots_knight4706 there is some thing to be a said about being a speedboat rather than oil tanker. And the point people like you ALWAYS leave out is that the EU is NOT ‘just a trade bloc’. It’s a political unification project. And that’s the issue. Canada, Japan, the USA, North Africa, etc etc etc are not in the EU. If the EU were more like the CPTPP or the old EEC we’d never have voted to leave. The EU’s ever expanding political controls make a lot of people very nervous and if you can’t see the difference…. Again, that’s your problem. You seem to think being in the EU is good because it allows you to bully your way through the world like the USA and China do. I don’t like bullies.
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
So, 7 years ago to protest against Westminster they voted to leave the EU. Well, they succeeded getting out of the EU but are still stuck with Westminster.
@burnsnight14 ай бұрын
Europe is stuck with the EU.
@aleccap88635 жыл бұрын
The young lad is spot on. Those wanting to become an MP should be on minimum wage to keep them in step with reality
@mrbearbear832 жыл бұрын
I believe that. Reasonable accommodation that they get for free, minimum wage, only one job (so no other second jobs). It's just a shame that by voting out they've enabled the complete corruption of parliament by Johnson et Al.
@soviet93662 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to do a follow up
@AlternativeGuitars Жыл бұрын
Should have asked the question - what will change when you leave?, because from where we are today in 2022, the country is in a worse state. I'm from the North East myself, but sending a message to Government is one thing, shooting yourself in the foot and opting out of one of the biggest trading markets in the world is another. I'd go back and ask the people of Sunderland what benefits they now have.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
No, opting out of the political EU project. Opting out of the Single Market comes with that because the EU makes it an all or nothing proposition. No one has opted out of trade. Trade continues - as it does with EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT ISN’T IN THE EU. I don’t think you quite understand what’s going on. The 1% IS the EU.
@becksy5393 жыл бұрын
They should ask these 'experts' about brain surgery as well, seen as how they all appear to be trading and economic experts
@miriamllamas2243 жыл бұрын
I had no rights to vote in the referendum. But I've realised ever since how little I knew about the single market, tariffs and so on. I don't need to know how my fridge or washing machine work; I just use them. And for sure, it they break down, the technician is not going to ask me how to fix it. The referendum was like asking the patient where to cut during surgery.
@MrLarryLicious2 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh :P
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@miriamllamas224 No, the referendum was based on a sound principle to which there is no right or wrong answer. Do you wish to be an independent country and trade around the world outside of EU restrictions - or inexorably become an integrated part of a United States of Europe with more and more power concentrated in Brussels? As the public were NOT given a choice on the Maastricht of Lisbon treaties this was a LONG overdue constitutional decision. If the vote has been to Remain this time I think that would have been it. Forever. The EU doesn’t do referenda. Look at the results of any referendum that hasn’t gone its way - they’re either ignored or re-run until they get the ‘right’ answer. This is the first and only time a referendum not in the EUs favour has been forced through (and it’s STILL hasn’t been fully implemented), the EU will do everything in its power to undo it and so will its stooges here in the UK. Like you.
@iedco45 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to me how badly the ordinary people understand the EU and the workings of Europe. The older people feel let down with the very small pensions and allowances after years of hard work. Irish Pensioners have the equivalent of £226 weekly plus Free Travel And allowances per pensioner. That is not the EU at fault, it’s the UK Government not respecting their elderly !
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
It’s clear you have no clue yourself about the EU or its aims.
@iedco4 Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz 17.4 million voters certainly did not know anything about the EU. How is Brexit going then ?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@iedco4 So you, arrogant person, think 17.4 million people were all too ignorant to know what they were voting for? But you think you are so enlightened you know what they all don’t? Wow. You’re a piece of work
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
One British pensioner told me his pension was about 20% of his former wages. In Belgium that would have been about 60 to 70%..
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@flitsertheo And? What’s that got to do with anything?
@Setinmywaysalways2 жыл бұрын
Oh to speak to them now?
@mariocroatia93218 жыл бұрын
the politicians have noone to blame but themselfs
@fuckfannyfiddlefart3 жыл бұрын
London doesn't understand us. So they leave the EU. You can't make this up!
@horsenuts18313 жыл бұрын
Let me see. The Tory government wasn't doing anything for the North East, so the solution was to vote for Brexit, and then vote in a Tory government. These people DESERVE the misery that Brexit will bring to them. Yes, people ARE calling them stupid.
@ciaranquigley7633 жыл бұрын
Agree 100 percent
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
Brexit was a good thing, name one thing the EU has done which is good
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
@@573lbt Im not british and my country has enough voter rights and we are not an EU member. I thank god everyday that we are not EU members
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
@@573lbt Nah, Norway is a joke. But jokes aside the EU only cares about big business. Not the working class
@mark014298 жыл бұрын
Well done channel 4 for delivering unbiased coverage , its a rare thing these days .
@mikanfarmer5 жыл бұрын
It's an even rarer thing THESE days, .......in fact it doesn't exist any more, .....sad.
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
mark c: Its certainly a Very Rare Thing Indeed on Channel 4. Their news is appallingly biased!
@metrokanto5 жыл бұрын
I understand what is being said about inequality, London etc ... but WTF has that to do with the EU .. the vast majority of the blame is UK Governments.
@mancunioner4 жыл бұрын
Because there's no party for the North or the working class anymore so this is a protest. Look at the grooming gangs all in labour areas. Labour are supposed to represent the working class. They despise them as much as the Torys do. Corbyn at Glasto sums it up. Working class who work in factories and in manual labour jobs in Sunderland, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle etc aren't going to places like Glasto so why the fucks he there. Labour now is just a virtue signal party for the middle class, the middle class will vote for them as they feel by doing so they're helping out the working class. Couldn't be further from the truth
@corydorastube3 жыл бұрын
@@mancunioner And Brexit will remedy this how?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster and London are the EUs UK office full of EU operatives - do you not understand that?
@Bertrum123 Жыл бұрын
Worked out well for them lol
@FLIPMODE6304 жыл бұрын
Didn't Sunderland get more investment from the e u than anywhere else in Europe ? Well let's see what happens
@FLIPMODE6304 жыл бұрын
frankie cullen yeah that' great advocate of the working classes
@stpd19572 жыл бұрын
How are the sunny uplands in Sunderland now then?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Nissan are continuing to invest
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
Nissan hasn't been producing "Sunny" models for ages.
@hughmckendrick30183 жыл бұрын
Angry with Westminster so they voted Leave the EU, enough said.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster IS the EU’s London office - do you not see that?
@erikzoe14 жыл бұрын
As with so many of the so-called reasons for brexit, these people are voicing very valid concerns but their problems have nothing to do with the EU and they will not be resolved, but rather made worse, by leaving the EU. They are problems caused by many years of bad politics within Britain.
@socillizt4life3 жыл бұрын
A year late but well said m8,your absolutely bang on!👏👏👏
@SRPC213 жыл бұрын
What you’ve said clearly isn’t true; In terms of fishing waters, EU red tape for small businesses and cheap labour, there were plenty of sensible reasons for the people’s of Sunderland to back Brexit. We only left the EU a month ago, give it an actual chance first (clearly you would rather it failed just so you can say you were right, rather than wanting what’s best for our country).
@Bustergonad96493 жыл бұрын
The only apparent red tape cutting in the two years since we have left the EU has been employees rights.
@esoekidjo2 жыл бұрын
@@SRPC21 so how is Brexit going one year later?
@Pierrick20092 жыл бұрын
@@SRPC21 cheap labour was a self-comforting myth to disguise the fact that EU workers are better skilled and more motivated. We’re now 2 years after Brexit and we have shortages of workers crippling the economy so clearly Leave voters aren’t that desperate to work !
@mlyyra Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to hear from these people who voted to destroy Britain by leaving the EU, because they had issues with their local governments! FFS
@rasputinswalloper4755 жыл бұрын
So nothing to do with the EU?
@alanherbert77254 жыл бұрын
Nothing in this report indicates disillusionment with Brussels or the EU. What is clear is that there is monumental disillusionment with British politicians and the political system here. The irony is that by voting against EU membership the electorate have enabled Johnson, Cummings et al, whose regard for the public at large is non-existent. Things in the UK will not improve as a result of Brexit - far from it. They will get considerably worse, and if anybody trusts BoJo and Cummings etc to help in any way at all they’re sadly mistaken. So much for a protest vote, eh?
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
The EU does not benefit ordinary people
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
@@sidwislff6184 😂
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
@@serinadelmar6012 what is funny
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
@@sidwislff6184 The irony.
@sidwislff61842 жыл бұрын
@@serinadelmar6012 Please do explain
@jasmineluxemburg62005 жыл бұрын
As I see it, The resentment is towards the political elite , the financial sector in London and the neglect of other parts of the country.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
And they are globalists, oligarchs and pro EU because the EU WORKS FOR THEM.
@cliffmatthews61065 жыл бұрын
Disgraceful may, betraying the British people !
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
Shut up Cliff!
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
You're out now. Are you happy?
@yousef14196 жыл бұрын
The guy that speaks first is spot on about the 1%. A lot of the 1% are the ones that have been punting Brexit. What does that tell you?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Wrong. The 1% and the top 10% are overwhelmingly in favour of Remain/Rejoin. The banks, big business, the politicians, the media, academia, and the middle class with Polish nannies and ambitions to have holiday homes in the South of France - all overwhelmingly Remainers. You are trying to make Jacob Rees-Mogg and Tim Martin representative of the 1% when in reality they are outnumbered by some distance. The EU is good for globalists and oligarchs - by supporting it you are supporting the establishment. The fact you can’t see that shows how thoroughly their propaganda has been executed. Brexit to you appears to be simultaneously the fault of thick racist working class plebs who didn’t know what they were voting for AND the cunning plan of the establishment - but not the choice of the superior, wise, educated metropolitan middle class left wing Remainers sandwiched in between who made the only rational choice to rescue the ungrateful plebs from themselves out of the kindness of their hearts and valiantly fought all the scheming 1% who secretly wanted Brexit and picked Boris and Mogg and Farage to be their mouthpieces - because the media love them so much 🙄 I bet you see Brexit as a Tory/right wing thing don’t you. Well it’s not. Traditionally it was LABOUR who have been the eurosceptics, including Tony Benn and one Jeremy Corbyn. The northern Red Wall voters voted to Leave. Blairites vote Remain and the Tories have always been pro EU. David Cameron campaigned to Remain - and who is more establishment, globalist 1% than him??? The public *explicitly rejected* what the establishment told them to do because the public understands that the establishment no longer works for them, it works for its globalist overlords. And you’re helping them.
@NedTesco7 жыл бұрын
Jesus when are we gonna dispel this absolute bollocks that everyone in London is well off and living the high life? Some of the most deprived areas of the country are in London for ffs
@MrOzzy2817 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are referring to the immigrant populated areas......
@desoliver97126 жыл бұрын
I think there are 2 false narratives running here. 1. People in London are rich, most aren't and the standard of living in London is really bad for most. 2. Brexit was a northern working-class vote-it wasn't. Hence why the home counties voted to leave..
@desoliver97126 жыл бұрын
+Atlas Shrugged I don't know what comment means, London is one of the most diverse places in the world, what "non-immigrant" place are you refering to?
@brianrodney7126 жыл бұрын
The media overlooks the fact that 1.5 million people in London voted ' leave'. and the whole of Kent overwhelmingly did the same.
@stupot4200320026 жыл бұрын
You have to get the context right to understand the argument, When leavers say those in London, We mean the politicians Not normal London Residents, Who i'm sure are struggling just as much as we are here in Yorkshire.
@mattsmith14408 жыл бұрын
"We hate London, whatever should we do?" I've got an idea, let's give them more power to decide the fate of the country and leave the EU, that'll show 'em!
@fornicateu25 жыл бұрын
Germany had power once upon a time, can you remember what happened on two occasions.
@donlogan6666 жыл бұрын
Vote out the EU becouse you’re unhappy with Westminster. Logic 😕
@stuartcrossland17465 жыл бұрын
Both controlled by the same zionist elite.
@fornicateu25 жыл бұрын
We've been unhappy with the EU since Maastricht too but never were given the referendums promised by Major or Brown, Camoron had to hold one on account of the Lisbon treaty removing the last vestiges of sovereignty from the people of this land and guess what happened. By the way its 'because', are you one of those highly educated remainiacs we keep hearing about, very thin on the ground aren't you all.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years
@cycledublin5 жыл бұрын
All complaints refer to London. Barely a mention of Brussels or the EU. Brexit is just people lashing out at any authority. No mention whatsoever of how Brexit might make things better. It's quite a sad situation.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
London IS the EU. Do you not get that yet?
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz London is no longer the EU but still no improvement. Quite the opposite I would say.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@flitsertheo London is full of EU citizens, immigrants and Remainers.
@andyb48642 жыл бұрын
How's brexit going Sunderland people. Did you get what you voted for?
@peterchessell282 жыл бұрын
Yes thanks
@mrbearbear832 жыл бұрын
@@peterchessell28 and what was that?
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
😂
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
@@peterchessell28 about as much as your collective IQ.
@InputArchive Жыл бұрын
You won't get a response, you never do
@tomlinid8 жыл бұрын
I can't see Westminster looking after these people the EU funding will go and jobs will go.
@p.g.u.d8 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as EU money. it's OUR money.
@tomlinid8 жыл бұрын
Robert Rodgers I think some of them voted to leave as a protest against the government. It didn't help the remain side when Obama went on tv and told everyone that if the UK left the UK would go to the back of the que for a trade deal. Many people don't respond well to threats.
@PC-lu3zf4 жыл бұрын
Yes Obama really made a error.
@Hatemoth3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the biggest lies people were told. The Uk paid more into the eu than it got out so anything funded in the Uk by the European Union could have easily been done by the British taxpayer. Rubbish argument.
@old_seadog3 жыл бұрын
@@Hatemoth Really? costofbrexit.netlify.app/ And when does the £350m pw to the NHS start?
@l33jcm5 жыл бұрын
The people's grievances are genuine, but blaming the EU is misguided. The North has been hard-done by successive UK governments (both Labour & Conservative), exacerbated by the financial crash and years of austerity. Brexit is only going to make things worse. Even official Government analysis projects the North East economy will be hardest hit, shrinking up to 13% in the 1st 10 years after Brexit. The signs are already evident in manufacturing (especially cars), agriculture and services. We need to stop this Brexit madness now by revoking Article 50.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster has been the London office of the EU for decades - do you not understand that?? And where do you think VAT comes from? It was a new tax imposed by the then EEC. The European model is all about tax and spend.
@TommyApplecore8 жыл бұрын
I live in Yorkshire now but I'm Hendon born and bred . and I could listen to these people all day! ... Well played Sund'l'nd!
@solar30078 жыл бұрын
FUCKING IDIOTS JUST LIKE YOU !! VOTED FOR MORE SUFFERING !!
@bigowl94088 жыл бұрын
Shame on you Sir for you remarks to some of the countries noble people! I am a Southerner being born and breed in rural Buckinghamshire. But I can still the true value of my fellow Northern Country men and women. If yo had any real sense you would clearly see that this country is run by a greedy self profligate political elite, firmly placed in the pockets of the gangster mentality of the banks and financial city. If you think Howard MARKS that those who run the country are there for you and I? Then you are more deluded than those idiots who claim that Islam is a religion of peace.
@glynnwright16998 жыл бұрын
There were numerous equality and work place directives placed on the statutes after WW II and before the UK joined the EEC.
@JJDoole7 жыл бұрын
Glynn Wright Yes there were. There was also a Labour government who gave a toss about people and instituted the NHS among other things. Not so today.
@sarahann5306 жыл бұрын
Tommy Applecore That's the problem , people like you listen to each other talking shite all day every day and get nothing done . Fucking wasters
@nigelbarrett40915 жыл бұрын
Do you think Aaron Banks or Farage will rescue Sunderland then you are in laurel and Hardy theme tune land ?
@People-Business-And-Ideas2 жыл бұрын
Would love to interview them today? Just to see if they're still so clueless..?
@mimymar22152 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are the same
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Your patronising attitude is shameful. I think the British public’s instincts are spot on and have been for centuries. London is the EUs UK office - do you not understand that??
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
Today they would claim Brexit as they voted for hadn't been delivered yet.
@tSp2893 жыл бұрын
So, angry with Westminster, so voted to give all the power to London, and cut off any EU money to depressed reasons like there.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years. Time to take it back and make OUR politicians accountable to US
@tSp289 Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz Yep, we’re certainly more accountable to the US now that we have to go begging for trade deals.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@tSp289 Us, the UK, not the USA. Are you educationally subnormal?
@tSp289 Жыл бұрын
@@mogznwaz Nope, you just made a Freudian typo that I chose to exploit. Quick question though. Do you really think our politicians are accountable to us? You really think Rishi Sunak's Tories are labouring ceaselessly to improve the lives of all British people?
@kevinbaird72773 жыл бұрын
The "Mackem's" are goosed, I lived and worked in this great city back in the 80's and 90's working out the many collieries, I could see that the city had real problems even then, add thirty years and Sunderland looks better but the same problems persist, the advent of Brexit and the wishes of the locals will never be satisfied with a BJ government, very disappointing.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Well being in the EU obviously didn’t help them either then…
@vanessanfowler Жыл бұрын
How do they feel now?
@andypandy99316 жыл бұрын
The first comment made me mad, the EU has no money, it is UK taxpayers money and they give us a little bit back.
@ftumschk5 жыл бұрын
Likewise, the UK Government has no money. It is UK taxpayers' money and they give us a little back - very little indeed, in some parts of the country.
@haleybrown28368 жыл бұрын
Wow, are we talking UK or US? One comment in particular resonated, They have no idea how the average person lives. Like I stated, these comments could have just as easily come from the US.
@Kerel948 жыл бұрын
It's always been a problem in every country after all. There have been centuries of squabbles between the working and ruling classes.
@glynnwright16998 жыл бұрын
It is 'globalisation'; Wall Street was tripping over itself in the rush to export US jobs to China back in the nineties, in order to make a quick buck. I was on fringe of it, the financiers have no loyalty to any nation, no morals, no sense of civic duty, no Christian grace or charity, just pure greed. It is just the same in the City of London. The final straw for me was when I heard a middle aged (British) women financier, on the City metro, start laughing when her Dutch colleague said that he had just visited the North of England. When she stopped laughing, she said "Oh, poor you." That event secured my exit vote.
@stuartcrossland17465 жыл бұрын
@@Kerel94 , who are the ruling class?
@touchedbynature54455 жыл бұрын
How right was the gentleman who said May will be a turncoat, well that goes for many MPs, Overriding the people's vote, to stop Brexit, whatever the cost even if it distroy democracy. We must not forget how much power the people have when thay come together, as a collective force, the referendum we had either to stay or leave the EU proved that. It is clearly evident that the Conservatives or the labour party will never honour the people's vote, it is time for a new political system that can respect the people of the UK knowing there place, serving the people of the UK not themselves. Come on Nigel Farage.
@teandsyrup._.68525 жыл бұрын
Paul Malachowski Look up "The reeds at Runnymede " by Kipling. Relevant right now.
@touchedbynature54455 жыл бұрын
@@teandsyrup._.6852 We shell not be bownd
@stephenbermingham65545 жыл бұрын
Read the good Friday agreement and inform yourself on the outcome of brexit. BREXIT will be in name only.
@stephenbermingham65545 жыл бұрын
@M A you know!
@stephenbermingham65545 жыл бұрын
@Vanessa Oliver Brian Elliot is correct. I voted out and want a no deal. I am an extreme voter because I'm an Irish nationalist. I voted for a united Ireland. BREXIT is the opposite if the good Friday agreement and destroys that treaty. That treaty is also democracy and the no deal version destroys that democracy and thus undemocratic. BREXIT is about deep economic reform as in the eighties with Thatcher. The rich brexiteers want to deregulate the economy so business can flourish. But to pay for it will be private health insurance that replaces the nhs. No welfare state for the poor or elderly and disabled. (92% of the welfare state bill is soaked up in oap benifits) Small nation state and very little if at all workers rights. That's what a no deal BREXIT brings. And with the peaceful democratic pathway to a United Ireland gone because of so called democracy (don't make me laugh) the paramilitaries will go into freak mode and its you and I and the like gets blown up not farage and Boris. So yes Brian Elliot is correct in everything he says. I digress.... E.u. commission has 33,000 civil servants (oops that unelected bureaucrats ) doing 43% of member States government departmental work looking after 585 million people. The UK central government only has 405,000 civil servants (oops I meant to say unelected bureaucrats ) doing 57% of government departmental work looking 65 million people. Which one is value for money? National parliaments all have lobbying companies whom work for globalist elite and rich individuals and the national politicians vote in favour of laws and regulation in the interest of the rich individuals and globalist elite not the working man and woman of the nation's. The e.u. commission cannot be lobbied and puts laws in place that say non, nien, halt to the laws that harm the people's of Europe. The same rich companies who lobby national politicians own the media which tell us the e.u. is bad for us . Read the good Friday agreement its a good place to start as to why brexit is in name only if at all.
@robertwright89475 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of the disaffection against the UK Government, who have caused suffering and even deaths of the people of the UK. What ever we think of the EU, they have not.
@LabRat66193 жыл бұрын
Turkeys voting for Christmas lol 😂
@RobertHearn-hu2br5 жыл бұрын
Great to see some truthful reporting unlike those BBC bastards supporting the crooks in No. 10
@triciacol3 жыл бұрын
Depressed Pound? I now live in Vietnam I left the UK when I knew Cameron was going to win, I simply could not face him and Osborne. Here in Vietnam my Brexit Pound has shot UP in value!
@tSp2893 жыл бұрын
Might be somewhat artificial. The pound dropped for a long time because of the uncertainty. Once plans were made it recovered, simply because it had a direction and was more predictable. Also good vaccine rollout has helped.
@Osquar Жыл бұрын
Me gonna cook me some sovereignty for me and the kids tonite.
@patricklucey88505 жыл бұрын
My goodness, with Brexit we have been shown how miserable it is to live in Britain.
@Tridhos6 жыл бұрын
I was trying to glean from that what it had to do with the EU referendum. So Sunderland like many parts of the UK is getting a bad deal from the London government and has been like many other parts of the UK suffering under the governments austerity measures. Thankfully money is going to the regions via the EU, of course its British money but if left in the hands of the UK government then the regions would see even less. So the solution is vote against the EU, well we will see in the next couple of years how that is going to work out, good luck Sunderland.
@spaliverpool715 жыл бұрын
All capitals in the World get a much better deal than individual provincial towns Ha Ha
@rareads5 жыл бұрын
Hello? If the EU give the NE no money now then after brexit they will still have no money then, what do they loose? Nothing. You don't know the governments spending plan after brexit you cannot say what the NE will get
@spaliverpool715 жыл бұрын
So uneducated and giving us lessons. Don't know the difference between *lose* and *loose*. Obviously you get less money as no multinational can't stand Bullshit Brexshit [having to pay tariffs] and end up relocating in the EU. See what happened in Sunderland? The NE = a fecking British dump, sorry, I meant SHITHOLE
@mrbearbear832 жыл бұрын
@@573lbt the news outlets need to go back to Sunderland, Boston, Wales, big leave voting areas and feel the pulse again
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@573lbt 50 years in the EU didn’t help you and Westminster has shown time and again it’s no more than the EUs London office. Oh and Nissan didn’t leave.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp7 ай бұрын
That lady hit the nail on the head about unemployment "they keep saying they isn't, but they is"
@gordonbradley32413 жыл бұрын
That's what they call an " information poor environment " !
@roddyframe123456 Жыл бұрын
We call them thick mackems ...up the mags!!
@noobmaister3 жыл бұрын
Wait they voted to leave cuz top 1% got richer, do they really not understand that primarily force for Brexit was banking industry and the regulation that EU wanted to impose?
@PartVIII8 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait, there was actually a movement to switch from metric units to imperial units? the metric martyrs? now that's truly ludicrous.
@fornicateu25 жыл бұрын
What happened was council jobsworths plagued the life of a market trader in Sunderland because he measured in pounds an ounces, this was a response to those.
@markmooch2 жыл бұрын
There was already imperial units and the EU wanted to change the UK to metric units but the punters understood Imperial units better
@rockerjim8045 Жыл бұрын
The media dubbed it “Metric”. “Imperial” didn’t have that ring to it.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Wrong. It is to allow a choice. A lot of people still think in pounds and ounces, feet and inches, like local market traders. The EU prohibited saying ‘a pound of apples’ rather than a kilo, now that restriction has been removed and people can use what they want depending on their specific history or local culture. No big deal to me - I switch between feet and inches and metres and cms all the time. I know what I weigh in stones not in kilos. People still use pounds and ounces about a baby’s weight. WE’RE NOT EUROPE.. We have our own culture not a homogenous mush.
@bartekw69703 жыл бұрын
I like coming back to these Brexit videos nowadays...so, has it all worked out for you?
@tSp2893 жыл бұрын
No. It hasn't catasrophically crashed yet though. That's more than I was expecting.
@TheAlexagius3 жыл бұрын
Given that our vaccine role out is miles ahead of the EU I'd say at least on that front its worked.
@tSp2893 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlexagius True. I don't think we'd have been able to get away with it to the same extent if we were still in. I still think the EU represents a much more mature, grown-up , less warlike, corrupt and greedy political body than the UK government, and that it was very much in our economic interests to stay in, but in this case the greed has worked in our favour. I'm also a pragmatist. Now that we've shat the bed with Europe, I really do want us to do well, and prove me and all the other remoaners wrong. I don't have a lot of faith, but I do want it to happen.
@Mattsta20103 жыл бұрын
Give it another 5 years, when they can't blame covid and we'll see how the pips squeak then. After the industry in Swindon is gone, the fishing fleets are completely rotted away and Nissan is packing up. Well done...but they know what they voted for dint they? Brexit is and was the wrong answer to the right question.
@mrbearbear832 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlexagius however the vaccine was secured while still in the EU medicines agency. It's a red heating
@dominicfastbender40298 жыл бұрын
Did no one tell them UK growth (one of the only EU members with any growth) increased by a third this quarter? The people versus the power is absolutely correct. The one thing that came out of the referendum is how biased UK media actually is. It was incredibly disappointing. I now firmly believe the BBC should be deconstructed after a life time of being supportive. They are far from their neutrality charter.
@dominicfastbender40298 жыл бұрын
Oh and today the lead economist at Deutche Bank warned the Eu they Eurozone is close to collapse. He confirmed the Eurozone banking system need a 150Bn Euro Bailout... Again. He also said that the Eurzone is sick and needs to be addressed warning of an accident ahead if it isnt.
@bmg_darby7 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact that our quarterly growth before the referendum was 0.6% and this quarter starting in July was a mere 0.1%. Of course, nothing to do with Brexit.
@dominicfastbender40297 жыл бұрын
The IMF just upgraded the UK growth forecast for this year to the highest in Europe. That has everything to do with Brexit. Speaking for one of the companies I know intimately, the UK was absolutely off our investment radar as we moved facilities out of the EU in order to compete at an advantage with EU based competition. Post Brexit we are in discussion with various agencies in the UK about a new facility there once certain details are confirmed. I have many clients of my private practice doing the same thing. Some of them are among the largest corporations in the world. The circle of investors I know well, predominantly US, Canada and Middle East based are extremely supportive of the choice Britain has made and I know of no one without a political agenda that believes this to be a bad thing in the medium and long term. So far, the short term has been better than expected.
@lonewanderer66587 жыл бұрын
Growth that benefits few corporations is no growth at all you neoliberal psychopath
@Inspector-Chisholm6 жыл бұрын
Where does growth in the UK come from? Mass immigration and soaring house prices. Not industrial growth.
@mikehutchison48922 жыл бұрын
This video stands tribute to what a lack of education does to you ! I trust they are enjoying all the tax increases…….which they voted for. One doubts that any one of them could do the simplest of additions when 16 ounces = 1 pound, 14 pounds = 1 stone.
@richardnoon55567 ай бұрын
None of the “reasons” these people give has anything whatsoever to do with the EU.
@carlosmartinezvera3953 жыл бұрын
Oh how well I remember last 4 years of Brexit supporting jeering "We won, get over it" towards those who voiced warning. Well ... arent you glad now you "won"? So get over it!
@petercolledge22362 жыл бұрын
Well done Channel 4 for interviewing all these lovely people from Sunderland. The main topic was alienation from London and all it stands for, but I'm not sure any of the people understood that the EU was on their side in much of the debate. This is a failure of the Remain side.
@serinadelmar60122 жыл бұрын
that and a failure of basic comprehension in Sunderland.
@roddyframe123456 Жыл бұрын
@@serinadelmar6012 😃👍
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
The EU is not on their side at all. What planet are you on? Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years. London is a Remainer hotbed - why is that do you think? Because it cares about Sunderland? STFU.
@geoffevans24895 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that it didnt go as plan and we have had to fight the same old battles against the establishment Brexit Party will make it all happen
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
Geoff Evans: Go back to sleep Geoff!
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
Geoff? Can we have your views now?
@eliakimjosephsophia45428 жыл бұрын
We were all so happy when we saw the Sunderland vote
@CellGames20065 жыл бұрын
I remember that night.. had a jog in the evening, thinking "oh well, it's one of those times when the EU's did scaremongering and gets to flip the vote to their favor again..." It was predicted to get close but about 52-48% Remain. Then midnight came and Remain was leading... politicians here in Finland went to bed thinking everything was gonna be all right. Nigel Farage even came out and gave his concession speech. Then Sunderland votes came in and tied the result... I had been playing a browser game and watching World cup football all day, I think Iceland played one of their better games, so I just thought of seeing the end result, but I had to stay watching. Then another batch of votes came in and turned it Leave 52-48... I saw Nigel come out again and give his "independence day" speech. I watched all the way to morning, and seeing our politician's reactions was priceless. They felt like they'd woken up to a nightmare... J.K. Rowling wishing she could use Harry Potter's wand to go back in time, lol... And then it gave a boost to Donald Trump's election campaign and we know how that went...
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
Have I got news for you. Nissan have just said that if any tariffs are added to their vehicles they will pull out of the UK. That's 7000 jobs gone in Sunderland! How is that good? These people are doomed by their own bigotries! When they are all unemployed the first thing they'll do is look for someone to blame because It Wasn't Their Fault' was it! As far as I'm concerned people get what they deserve!
@The_Orgazoid Жыл бұрын
just curious… are you still happy that the UK has left the EU?
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@andythomas706 Nissan are still here…. Oh and btw if you go back you will see that they said the same thing about the UK not joining the Euro…..
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
@@The_Orgazoid I voted Remain, somewhat reluctantly, and I now fully support Brexit - thanks to the Machiavellian machinations of our Remainer establishment after the vote and the complete contempt shown towards democracy and the voting public. Shame on you for supporting them.
@leobarberies40322 жыл бұрын
Britain will regret brexit
@howiemartinez8 жыл бұрын
Emotion 1 - Logic 0 = we all lose. What a shitshow :(
@MrOzzy2817 жыл бұрын
It is logical, they want jobs and change.
@TBFSJjunior6 жыл бұрын
Atlas Shrugged It is, but is it logically to complain about London and politicians in Westminster and then vote to give more power to those politicians? The Tory's are already talking about cutting worker protection (some guaranteed by the EU up to now) and lowering cooperate tax rates, while cutting worker benefits and raising taxes on the poor to "combat" the effects of the Brexit and be more compatible on the world market.
@smilingvulture8 жыл бұрын
I voted remain,but Sunderland are great people
@peterkirk1235 жыл бұрын
There are only two well known people who came from Sunderland . Adam Johnson and Wearside Jack ( the Ripper Hoaxer )
@tomstev27454 жыл бұрын
peter kelly and Jordan Henderson and Nigel Clough
@thephilosopherofculture45593 жыл бұрын
Today is October 1, 2020. Their Brexit vote brought them nothing but worsening conditions. They did not vote against the EU, they voted against Westminster and are going to be paying a hefty price for that error, starting January 2021.
@moc73233 жыл бұрын
They thought things couldn’t get worse .. there in for a big fucking surprise
@TerryTerryTerry5 жыл бұрын
That man was right - Theresa stick in EU
@flitsertheo Жыл бұрын
Therese is the past. You've had worse crooks as PM since.
@andrewrobinson2565 Жыл бұрын
A hilarious blast (of stupid) from the past. 🤣🤣🤣
@amot5880 Жыл бұрын
Anyone regretting voting for Brexit?
@mjp88455 жыл бұрын
If the Tory party was a strong caring for the people party , would the Brexit vote have been different ? Seems to me the vote is a clear vote against our government which does not care across the board . It is also not true that everybody in London is well off . There are just as many poverty stricken areas as in the rest of the country .
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Westminster is the London office of the EU - do you not see that?
@Delmothop5 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for these guys. Voting for Brexit to register their frustration with neoliberal economics, only to soon find that they're about to be on the receiving end of the most extreme forms of neoliberal economics imaginable, having seemingly given their blessing for it.
@andrewmaccallum23672 жыл бұрын
2 simple rules for life ; No.1 - Never trust a tory No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
@petewalsh22864 жыл бұрын
Chris Marshall, come on then, how is Brexit going to make the working man's life better?
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
It isn't Pete. They are about to find that out. Soon they'll be looking for someone to blame!
@petewalsh22864 жыл бұрын
@@andythomas706Thomas yep. Sunderland is happy to back people like this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19300051
@destinylivingston27148 жыл бұрын
I can't blame them...I'll blame the bureaucratic EU instead
@arthurlewis91936 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the man who invented the satnav. We now see the media travelling outside the M25 every time a vote doesn't go their way.
@tennysonfordblackbird20875 жыл бұрын
Great comments one thing in London hasn't got is sea fishing😅
@jjg196315 жыл бұрын
They should do neither, they shoud interview the whole country. Like a referendum 😊. But this time based on facts not fiction, although I’m afraid, like in every country, the masses don’t inform themselves and vote from their underbelly.
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
The public’s instincts are good. They instinctively understand what the EU is and its direction of travel. They chose to reject it, as is their right. The EU only offers an all or nothing proposition. In that situation the average Brit will instinctively say ‘up yours I will choose my own destiny thanks’. You can like supranational bureaucracy and continental concentrations of power if you like but you have no right to make a judgement on those who do NOT choose that.
@davidmichaels89343 жыл бұрын
Let them suffer, like everyone else, they voted for it, now let them own it!
@davidmichaels89342 жыл бұрын
@BlenheimBomber you voted for it, now enjoy it pal! Welcome to the Brexit sir! 😥
@davidmichaels89342 жыл бұрын
@BlenheimBomber thanks for the, for what it's worth, will you give one example of 'reaping the rewards' if you would be so kind. Thank you.
@Bullfrog3776 жыл бұрын
Free Movement from countries whose average wage is 1/4 of what it is in the UK is a flawed concept. What has happened as a result of it, and as a result of introducing the Euro, was utterly predictable before either were actually tried. Clearly that are far too many people in Brussels who do not understand the very basics of economics.
@Vesnicie6 жыл бұрын
Bullfrog377 oh they understand all right, they just don't give a damn about the little guy.
@Anna-zm6dp5 жыл бұрын
I'm so so sorry for you. As if you did not get any advantages from leaving toilet cleaning and bartending up to poorly waged Eastern Europeans... Get rid of these people, that's my advice, and take the toilet brush in your hands!
@48sydney5 жыл бұрын
At 1:40......this man is a prophet.
@Pkia-tm7gw5 жыл бұрын
Everybody blames someone else!
@paulbroderick84385 жыл бұрын
Looks like the words of Albert Finney in Network have come home to roost - "I've had as much as I can stand and I'm not going to take it any more'!!
@Amirali-bp1hn8 жыл бұрын
Bravely revolting against the evil, oppressive, ermm... metric system?
@Bulletguy073 жыл бұрын
My sympathies go to Sunderlands Nissan employees that voted Remain who now find their jobs under threat if Nissan decides to go which it may well do. I shudder to think of families that work there or people with mortgages.
@jopmars81682 жыл бұрын
Would serve them right, you reap what you sow, welcome to the Brexit sir.🐷🤡
@mogznwaz Жыл бұрын
Nissan haven’t gone anywhere. Well done Brussels stooge for swallowing their propaganda whole
@pix0467 жыл бұрын
These fishermen are talking sense.
@kanedNunable3 жыл бұрын
this has aged well
@supereliptic3 жыл бұрын
@@kanedNunable indeed. Like fine milk.
@Mattsta20103 жыл бұрын
Heard them thesedays?....oh, hahaha! - You reap what you sow. You gullible people
@nigelbarrett40915 жыл бұрын
The good people of Sunderland must keep faith with their natural party,Labour and reject right wing parties than will not care for your well being.
@andythomas7064 жыл бұрын
Back in your box Nigel! Thanks.
@simonbamford84416 жыл бұрын
A number of Brexiteers individuals with their hedge funds will make a shed load of money next year. How stupid Sunderland voted Brexit.
@wildgoose59645 жыл бұрын
When we take back control can you honestly see any of "our money" trickling any further north than Watford? You know how it works 70% London, 10% Scotland, 5% Wales, 5% Northern Ireland and lastly 10% the English regions...
@nicholaswoolfenden52545 жыл бұрын
Britain "wins". What has it won?
@GunterDierickx5 жыл бұрын
Does Brexit also means kicking al Premier League clubs out of European Champions League?
@peterkirk1235 жыл бұрын
@@GunterDierickx No Turkey are not in the EU but still play Champions League ( if there clubs qualify ) . But i think the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea will struggle if we leave with No Deal . They rarely play English players in there first team , No Deal will change there recruitment policy.
@johngreen61913 ай бұрын
7 years to mull over their situation up there. Cheers for that. I now have to eat tasteless tomatoes from Morocco and spring onions with no flavour from Egypt.
@simonclarke73093 жыл бұрын
How's fishing doing
@jsilkcut7 жыл бұрын
Sad to see so many derogatory remarks about the people of this proud Northern city.... most people in London would struggle to point it out on a map, or understand what a powerhouse of the Industrial revolution it once was... (do we teach English history in our schools anymore?) Those naive pompous voices below who see nothing wrong with selling our soul and heritage to the likes of Germany and France whilst willfully turning our back on our own people should hang their heads in shame.Most of this immigration seems to end up in our poorest areas where they are 'out of sight' and slowly the cancer spreads unseen my most until it brings you to your knees, and the realization dawns that this 'green and pleasant land' is no more. Anyway I suppose what will be will be...... we we seem to have lost our way some time ago, and the only map left is in fucking Arabic.
@Vesnicie6 жыл бұрын
jsilkcut the green and pleasant land is getting drawn and quartered every day and turned into shitty cheap housing complexes.
@jorgevieira44895 жыл бұрын
how ignorant and racist you are sir
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
How are you feeling now?
@lapland1235 жыл бұрын
Asking Scotland to stay, and then vote leave. Not so nice.
@spaliverpool715 жыл бұрын
I know. A trap.
@rareads5 жыл бұрын
Don't be so stupid. Scotland trying to be its own country would have far less power and say over its own future under the EU. Scotland wanting independence but joining the EU so it can't even make its own laws and be dictated to by Brussels! yeah of course they stayed in the UK which will be stronger once we leave the EU
@TheSm1thers5 жыл бұрын
@@rareads Scotland could make its own laws if it were part of the EU. Why not?
@louis-philippearnhem6959 Жыл бұрын
3:56 It surely made a difference. But not the one that was hoped for.
@kayem38245 жыл бұрын
Its all London's fault now, right. The day before, it was all EU's fault. It must be the damp.
@stephenarcher89296 жыл бұрын
"The only thing I'm bothered about is the euro for me holidays"....ok that's understandable madam. No concerns for the future of your children then. Not bothered about Nissan reducing investment and eventually moving on. Not at all perturbed by a predicted 16 % (!) decline in NE GDP c.f. remaining in EU (the worst regional performance in the UK) if we were to crash out with do deal!! Na holidays is all that matters. Well I've got news for you lady. Decent people are going to save you from your own folly. Join the march for a People's Vote on the final brexit deal 23/06/18.
@realdeal75305 жыл бұрын
Bykermann ... She's another simpleton.
@schinaro8 жыл бұрын
biased reporting - 'as they smoke and have a cup of coffee' people in london smoke to but you won't hear that
@biorobl5 жыл бұрын
People saying Nissan will leave Sunderland? If German car makers start selling much less cars in the uk then the Japanese car makers will take more share of the market in the UK which might mean more Japanese car factories in the uk. I live in Oxford and BMW will stay here because UK market is huge to them and they have invested massively in the Oxford Cowley car factory. Trade is trade at the end of that will drive a final deal.
@abeYAHU5 жыл бұрын
You might want to delete that rubbish 😂
@rareads5 жыл бұрын
Brexit is positive for the UK but the remainers are out to suppress and lie instead
@flitsertheo3 жыл бұрын
@@rareads No doubt you can give us a list of tangible Brexit benefits.