Patch notes, Pop-offs, and PS5's | Trash Talk - Extra Trashy

[@embrstar1749]

wow we really did get trash talk 2

[@ratratratratratratrat777]

Trash Talk 2-ah

[@hidoryy]

@@ratratratratratratrat777 cinema

[@WandaSykesOfficial]

I hope they drop sex 2

[@Aggrofool]

The Retrashening

[@deadfr0g]

Recycling Talk 😀

[@Krasgov]

ggs i was the tekken music in the background on a Street Fighter podcast.

[@deadfr0g]

This is cultural appropriation 💀

[@Quince477]

Lol

[@xRhychux]

Thank you for your service

[@StepbackXYC]

Thank you for explaining how the SF6 experience can be affected by other things besides just the PS5 itself. Even with PC, tournaments need to standardize on settings to have a consistent good experience for players.

[@aledantih6524]

The difference between PC and PS5 is very little because its more easy to design it to be for fighting games and most of the pros these days are more than used to the feeling of the game being played on PS5 even if it does take a little adjustment. I'm also glad they actually acknowledge the truth of the set up problems instead of just riding a console hate train.

[@realest_JoJo]

@@aledantih6524there is no world where console is the optimal standardized version of a setup for this game. It might have to be that way for money reasons but it’s definitely never the optimal choice. When shit starts melting you gotta make a change 😂

[@aledantih6524]

@@realest_JoJo I never heard of the melting shit happening again after that one tournament, seemed like a one off because of the way the heat was distributed. Consoles might not be the most optimal it can get but they're definitely optimal enough for competitive play and until these venues are getting League or Overwatch money, they're the most optimal on the TOs side too

[@blue_go]

Great discussion, I know this takes a lot of commitment from you both since you're both busy, so I'd just like to throw my comment into the pile and encourage you to make more deep dive FGC videos like this 😄

[@ticoliro-j7l]

- Be nice to each other. The wholesome IDom for xmas that we need but don't deserve. Hopefully one day we will get there.

[@Quince477]

I am wholesome, but this game sucks - Something Idom would say

[@ticoliro-j7l]

@@Quince477 FACTS XD

[@WarlockLov3]

would loooove to see an episode with lordknight or jmcrofts. much love big man.

[@duckygoose6749]

Yesss jmcrofts would be goated

[@themuffindragon]

This is the kind of content I was hoping Trash Talk would be initially. I don't mind the interviews but I really enjoy this casual chat about FGC current events

[@dissipatedyouth890]

Keep doing these style of podcast PLEASE. Straight BANGERS. Bringing top players to come and talk about current FGCs events/talking points is GENIUS.

[@jinbelost]

"Trash Talk- Behind the Dumpster" yay, nay? 💀

[@electronnick8358]

NO

[@smor.synchros]

Trash

[@jinbelost]

@@smor.synchros be better 💀

[@GenderNeutch]

Dumpster diving? (as in deep-diving specific topics)

[@jinbelost]

@GenderNeutch seeee, you get it

[@EditorSebas]

Brian you gotta remember that there's people who bought all 4 ninja turtle costumes, that's $60! They literally paid the base game's price for 4 skins for your lobby avatar!

[@Achallon]

🤢

[@Optii87]

Appreciate Brian actually calling out constant complaining about PS5 with actual arguments. 99% of the times it's the screen and the settings. I play mainly on (high end) PC but I have the game on PS5 as well and there is no difference if the Vsync is turned off (aka improved responsiveness or whatever it's called is turned on) and the TV is in game mode (obviously ideally it's played on a proper monitor).

[@Brian_F]

There is still a difference between fully optimized pc and fully optimized ps5 setup. It's just the dramatic difference occur when other bottlenecks come into play. Pc with high refresh rate monitor >>>>

[@christiancardona4369]

I was literally looking for something to listen to, perfect timing😮‍💨

[@MrBranh0913]

Correction regarding HDMI. You can get VRR with HDMI 2.0. I know. I have HDMI 2.0 and I’m able to get 120 hz on SF6 HDMi 2.1 is required for 4k at 120 hz.

[@Amaling]

All the working adult stuff Brian brings up are so relatable it’s great. Dodging MOBAs and balatro to prioritize work life (but mostly work) balance, talking about general responsible human stuff to all the giga-pro full-time gamer guests etc

[@Raxyz_0]

I'm with iDom, I think an extra control scheme like "Classic+" or "Classic Hardcore" would be hype. I doubt many players would use it, and I sure as hell wouldn't feel pressured to use it if my combo consistency plummets to hell, but it gives the execution Gods something to work with. It's yet another avenue to get a leg up and express yourself through different options. I think it'd be nice.

[@CocoMura]

rockband shirt goes hard

[@ngjeremy8062]

If you rmb the daigo comeback moment that he tech problem x throw towards the end, that's what a good tech, that no more exist in sf6

[@eckehareckbert2731]

💯Those were the days.

[@JunDLTA]

honestly if you wanted to cover a specific topic, you could call it a "dumpster dive"? idk lol

[@markmessi9020]

Naw Brine knows what he's doing. I'm going to watch Trash Taste now. I mean extra trashy. I mean, which one did I watch again? I'll just watch both 😂

[@commdaofighting]

I think we need a different naming convention. At first I thought this was a reupload or a collection of hits from all episodes so far. Happy to keep having more interviews though 🙏

[@Nooobility]

The shirt throwing at players thing is definitely disrespectful and crossing the line. The people are saying about being soft and the shirt isnt going to hurt just havent used their brains. Take this other example then, spitting is just saliva right? no one is going to get hurt from a little saliva right? Lets see every Top 8 at offline majors players spitting at each other from now on. Lets throw used tissues at each other, what else doesnt hurt? lets see, they can also use blow horns on each other, throw confetti at their opponents. Use some brains people.

[@Platanov]

I actually love Brian's idea about a little extra damage from perfect timing on combos. A lot of good game design is giving players enough rope to hang themselves. Do you risk dropping the combo for a little extra damage? The important thing is that your opponent would get some kind of feedback when you do the swag version (different fx or a little flash or whatever) so they know you're styling on them.

[@manuelsputnik]

They should just steal the blue sparks just frames in Tekken 8 would be hype

[@El-Burrito]

Would love to hear Brian's thoughts on golden hits in Punch Planet. You get an extra frame of hit advantage of you perfectly 1f time your links, which opens up new combo routes and even infinites if you go for them

[@fogfish303]

hey just to clear things up we do NOT throw shit at ppl in the smash community 😭😭😭 that dude who threw the crab got permabanned like asap LOLLL mang0 isn’t out here throwing chicken legs at zain 😭😭

[@kanonmizar3186]

Mr Brian F can you do a proper set up for the PS5? and i am wodering if the PS5 Pro would make a batter outcome?

[@numa2k147]

NBA Twitter is miserable, you only see the top of the iceberg which seems hilarious, but it's actually miserable and scrubby.

[@masteroak7474]

That idea for a 1-frame link scaling reward was very interesting.

[@blink_mamba9595]

If someone throws a sweaty or stinky jersey at me, everything is fair game physically.

[@nabillun]

Yeah i was fine with it till that part😂throw it on the floor

[@danielstaub1577]

Bro you should absolutely make a vid exploring a gold standard of a low lag fighting game setup. I thought fighting online if I was wired I was good. It wasn’t until some of those sajam slam vids that I realized other factors cause input delay.

[@dgundz]

a new ep let's go thanks for keeping up the good work

[@taranjotwani]

Idom back on the podcast. Hell Yeah!

[@junema9924]

this conversation in setup drama about in-person tournaments being worse for consistent latency performance is blowing my mind a bit given that it should be by far the least latency of any setup, since all the pieces are physically in the same place. It's strange how the bottleneck has inverted, where before bad netcode and high variance in network latency meant online was just not a serious place to play fighting games (at least in the US), and now the proliferation of device-side settings, optimizations, video standards, etc. means you expect things to be inconsistent in person in ways that just won't happen online. Was this a problem when tournaments were just run at local arcade machines? One thing about the arcade cabinet is that I would expect the hardware to be much more consistent from machine to machine, and the inputs from the players would maybe go through fewer layers of software such that an input from the player gets to the display faster. With modern efficiencies in component miniaturization, I just kinda wonder if there's a world out there that we'll never see where Capcom makes a bunch of little packaged set-ups at least for their biggest tournaments that are consistent.

[@3R9Sasuke]

I remember hearing Valle and other oldheads say they played arcade tournaments with wonky sticks or bad buttons, so it feels like there's always been some kind of problem with tournament setups.

[@Xernamos]

holy freaking rizzparty never in my life would i have expected to hear my name in a brian f video bro what the actual sigma

[@shadowonefoxx]

Capcom's apparent refusal to create skins and sell them to the playerbase will never not be wild to me. Make reasonably priced costumes and people will buy them 🤷🏾‍♂

[@lizardman301]

36:42 I'm glad the C3 setups were great but the funny thing is those systems are rented from Gaming generation and are the exact same ones used at Evo and ect this year. Maybe we just had cleaner power at the venue but in theory it should've been the same experience at all 3

[@lizardman301]

That and we made sure all the system settings and game settings were the same across each system.

[@Darth_Misa]

My boy iDom back so soon, love to see it

[@gntyh]

damn idom done upgraded his cam and mic

[@BIGACORN]

HAH! That Idom comment about buy the Marvel Rivals skin was the joke punchline for that Mighty Keef skit recently. Pure gold here.

[@Uglyweezer]

Capcom definitely needs to figure out their sf6 outfit situation. So much money is being left on the table

[@rudyramirez125]

Make these the after hours unfiltered discussions with your guests, Brian! Also, is that a 20 year old rock band instrument shirt from launch lol?

[@francischang]

For input latency, you should look into what they do in VR, latency is a massively important. They call it motion-to-photon delay, and there are very good tools to quantify that metric.

[@markmelancon2914]

iDom with the girl math to justify the skin purchase. Love it.

[@dectilon]

The only thing I know about competitive Fortnite was that some guy won a big event, and his victory speech was just "this game sucks".

[@fenekin04040]

love this series dude

[@TheGooGaming]

1:11:30 That's the case with basically any sponsorship, its about the advertising also, not the prizes.

[@beroberoberoberobero852]

Idom again, nice! Hope you find a way to organize yourselves and voice your concerns as players, i remember quite a few weird tournament drops you mentioned, it's very bad to see... sours the vibes as an expectator, kinda makes you care a bit less for the tournament each time

[@Tassadar4Ever]

Hit the nail on the head with this one. Extra trashy

[@Zaoshinki]

Cold winds hit you like a brick hitting you ( Upon leaving your warm apartment ).. Its Brick outside

[@icky2049]

Not a fan of the 2 minute intro because it was 30 seconds of "spoilors" and then it was the intro. I get why it was added. Please fix the timestamps for the future episodes. Big fan of this type of podcast.

[@Brian_F]

I'm not gonna lie i have no idea what you're saying, can you clarify.

[@Bardockjohnny]

@@Brian_F Hello friend, I'm from Brazil Could you make a video configuring ps5 and monitor for best performance??

[@ChefBojangles]

⁠@@Brian_Fhe’s saying he doesn’t like the preview clips you cut in before what he considers the “actual” intro of you launching the conversation with Idom. He basically wants the “intro” stamp to start after the previews.

[@icky2049]

@@Brian_F . Sorry for the lack of calarification but @ChefBojangles summarized it well. The forshadowing timestamp is great! I'll personally just skip that portian of the podcast. Thank you for listening!

[@BrainGeniusEditor]

@@icky2049 Honestly a reasonable ask, I can add one extra timestamp.

[@xboxpenguin8705]

1:03:35 Idom is SPITTING

[@SherwinZaldivar-c1g]

this is Patreon content Brian. Get your bag

[@sheikhster8768]

$700 ??😂 That "What" from Brian was bery appropriate 😂

[@someaccount5200]

There was no way anyone would call the most recent patch a "minor" patch cause it changed a lot

[@BigMujK]

I enjoy player beefs, the Punk, Xiahoa back and forth was entertaining. But I like when it’s players close in level, otherwise seems like someone is punching down.

[@brewslidepark]

Listening to this while playing balatro lol

[@MiloticMaster]

Let me brainstorm some name ideas! Garbage Patch Trash Day / Rubbish Collection Dumpster Dive Leftovers (like food i guess) Recyclable Content Ok that's all I got

[@fredjpg]

i think the shirt throw was over the line but the part that stuck out to me was that mena screamed "go home du" when he threw it, which just feels like such a malicious statement to make to someone who depends on this for their livelihood. like i dont think that you should celebrate sending someone home and taking money out of their pocket, you should celebrate overcoming a matchup that you struggled with earlier in the week, or that you get to move on to the finals.

[@Oldo]

It sucks there is no on ramp to fighting game terminology because I'm sure it's holding back the viewer community a lot. I've been playing since the cabinets arrived till today and I still don't know half the stuff you guys are talking about. Imagine if it was totally impossible to follow a baseball or basketball or football game without knowing obscure dialogue. Wish we had lingo tutorials inside the games themselves I know I can't be the only one scratching my head needing to hit up a wiki to follow along.

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

"suddenly street fighter 5 online was pretty good" that's bullshit right there. Even on PC with fiber internet it was the worst online experience of it's generation.

[@BrainGeniusEditor]

Samsho? Granblue? UNIst? DBFZ??????

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

@BrainGeniusEditor at least samsho and dbfz worked way better than sf5, I literally dropped sf5 because of its net code for those 2. I didn't play the other 2

[@JohnDoe42069]

The manon goat 💯

[@azizkash286]

Costume 4 aint ever happening huh

[@mynameisfury7320]

36:42 LFG CREAM CITY BAYBEEEEEEEEE

[@xCantalupox]

great podcast!

[@davide4607]

Put the guests's name in the title

[@suprchocolatez1177]

Brian ps5 comes with a hdmi 2.1 standard with every console

[@Bizzymark]

I'm bricked

[@sheikhster8768]

With the new lower priced intel GPUs, PC becomes a cheaper option than it was done before

[@VA_Kushiel_AV]

51:51 Ok I hate Menard but in this situation they're basically on tv performing and the players the jersey was thrown at should of played kayfabe and fought over the jersey/held it up like "AAAA I GOT HIS JERSEY" as if he's a football or basketball star.

[@jackal00700]

I need more.

[@abap-gaming]

Thank you for bringing up the set up and settings on PS5. The game runs at locked 60 with 120 output when IDR turned on. You need a HDMI 2.1 cable. But one issue is that V-sync turns off when when IDR is on. So if you don't have the right capture device, you will get screen tearing on a stream setup.

[@GDPanda69]

ANGRY COMMENT ABOUT SOL

[@BrainGeniusEditor]

I hope u specifically have a happy holidays

[@GDPanda69]

U2, brother!

[@pebriancharliady]

10:41 CAPCOM please hear them out

[@Scarcrw1]

1:46 never say that again please and thank you (lmaoo)

[@FilledSora]

Maybe "The Dumpster" is a better title.

[@Dude902]

Idom's closing message about goes a long way, I am a fan for that alone.

[@ltjones6360]

why comment when the creators dont pay attention anyway? 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@usaruanime138]

Idom is cool 😎

[@BritzBlitz]

balatro

[@nathanfoster6103]

What a surprise

[@TheNosferatuChannel]

bro, even the avatar cosmetics have dried up. most of the stuff they release is recolors of existing stuff. I want to spend money on this game, but I can't.

[@jessieansell6168]

@53:00 I find both Caba and Mena hella disrespectful

[@chainsofolympusx363]

Hoh really, but you dont find punk disrespecfull?

[@brightboxawesome2702]

shit talk and pop offs outside the game is good for entertainment. Entertainment brings views. Views bring sponsors. There's a way to do it. Jake paul does it over and over again

[@solitudegaming]

Brian if you are surprised at someone spending 20 bucks for a skin, don't interview a league or dota player.

[@Spyro54LK]

January the end of brainrot talk 😢

[@aspekt7631]

Lol, you guys really dodged a bullet if you haven't played Dead Cells

[@alfredososa3059]

Still dont get why Ed's cr.lk is such a "problem". Other characters can link lights into mediums on counter hit but ed doing light into light was a problem? Ridiculous

[@charlieharrington9555]

It was because of the combination of combo utility as well as its extremely far range for a fast light. If you don’t see how that was nerf-worthy, I don’t know what to tell you

[@alfredososa3059]

@charlieharrington9555 lights already have heavier scaling, and as Brian mentioned, if players spamming OD Blitz after cr.lk was the issue then that was addressed by making it unsafe. Nerfing cr.lk was completely unnecessary

[@beam5655]

1:27:20 NBA twitter got no chill, one bad game and a player's washed 😂

[@VaniG91]

Capcom needs to add Avatar ranked so that people buy the battlepasses in NA

[@Call555JackChop]

I’m just here to dunk on the PS5

[@CCCompiler]

Brian_I

[@Whodis283]

trash tuah

[@heretickishyt]

Buff akuma

[@MrRyuken555]

Why, Shuto, Punk and others seem to be doing fine with akoooomer.

[@heretickishyt]

@MrRyuken555 punk mains akuma? U watching fantasy fighter 6 online?

[@beam5655]

F*ck no

[@Marked__One]

Watching completely out of shape guys act like they won an actual UFC title when they beat someone at street fighter is next level cringe. Just the way i feel. Its not real lads. Enjoy your win, you earned it. But sit the fuck down, this aint real life 😂😂😂

[@intogrey2038]

This feels random what happened that made you say this lol

[@beam5655]

Its still a conpetative game. Just cause they aren't getting CTE doesn't mean they can't pop off

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

About the Mena Tshirt topic.....1 is not physical let that out of the way if you thing he step out of line is one thing but tossing a TSHIRT been consider physical....let's see so when a Multi millionaire wrestler, rocks star, Rap star toss a short of any article to the crowd......is that PHYSICAL? can I go to a lawyer and say.....Axl Rose toss a tshirt to my face and hurt me so I will sue him....................no......so no this is not count as physical, is stupid even Du made a drama out of something they resolve MONTHS AGO, so pretty dumb of his part, specially as Mena apologize there off camera and they I assume squash that, seems like no as he still have a VIDEO READY to respond, yes he took it down as he should but that is just unnecessary, now on talk trash or pop off keep it in game.....how is that? I mean if someone pop off and say YOU ARE TRASH.....did he mean you in game or you as a person?.....clearly he is refereeing to in game but....did he/her? specially if there is animosity, of 2 people who just not like each other how you take that as just in the GAME?, this is why that phrase never make sense to me, even if is in the game, yeah you beat that person, but did that make that person trash in the game like....if I beat Daigo (dreaming much but) and pop of saying that Daigo is trash.....is not that a personal insult that disrespect the legacy and career or someone like Daigo....just think that for a second and I can see someone really taking that to heart beyond in game......I personally like more the POP OFFs than people who got verbally saying trash to your face as in my opinion is 100% unnecessary and uncalled, not harm or anything but can make people add salt and anger that eventually could boil up and explode in a way that is actually not healthy, specially if there is real beef between the people involve, so that one is a little more potentially dangerous, Du says that Mena yell to him GO HOME DU, you see that there is a bit more crossing the line specially if you know these 2 where friends and the story of them, is a little more harm than the actual Tshirt tossed, as as Du say, Mena even stayed on his house, back when he couldn't effort pay hotels, in the early days of SFV, so that sting a lot more and I hope is not Mena getting the fame to his head, also Mena have say he got bully by the community, maybe he felt that when Rebellion and pretty much everyone in that room was rooting for Bandits to get eliminated and in the same way Du felt offended by Mena.....Mena maybe have felt the same, here is my friend want me to go home with nothing when we are the champs and he pretty much give USA his first world tittle in the SFL, so...yeah I would be a bit angry. Anyway that's my view on this whole thing, hope is resolve already, just like I disliked the Punk and Xiaohai unnecessary beef, I really don't like the Mena / caba / Du drama.