4 Way BATTERY Chainsaw Comparison ► Which Has The Better Cut And Torque?

[@bobbyamandaflores4470]

Who came for the Milwaukee review ✌️

[@Countryside660]

Already got one just wanted to see of I fucked up and shouldn't have

[@shanevonharten3100]

@@Countryside660. Had mine 18 months and love it.

[@horaciosalinas8145]

@@Countryside660 😆

[@scottcoleman7304]

@@Countryside660 the dewalt has more torque, more blade speed and lighter in weight. Shame that dewalt didnt add real metal teeth, and a sturdier mounting system.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@Countryside660 Watch AvE's teardown and Project Farm's comparison videos. The M18 chainsaw isn't horrible, but it's definitely not as good as those made by OPE companies (Echo, Ego, Greenworks, Husqvarna, Stihl, Mikita) and only really worth it if you use Milwaukee already. Definitely better than the Dewalt, just because of how chinzy the DeWalt's bar retention is. Higher chain speed doesn't mean much if your chain keeps fucking off on you after some light usage.

[@oliverm5sc]

Who ever sharpened the chain on the Echo and Dewalt did a shitty job, those chains were DULL or the rakers to high, next time you do a test like this use the same chain on all 4 saws

[@hphillips7425]

Oliverm5sc. I agree the echo sounded faster and stronger. You are correct about the chain being improperly sharpened

[@paulmyers9350]

Exactly what I was thinking. If you get the chain moving that fast and the cut is that slow, you just have to look to the chain.

[@jamesstevens2004]

oliverm5sc maybe new chains would be nice

[@4philipp]

Should have used out of the box identical chains. That’s why these comparisons can be very misleading

[@TreeNerdi]

True. The echo looked like the rakers were ignored.

[@geraldmoore6257]

I’m using the Makita XCU03 right now to cut firewood from a large pile of mixed hardwood logs left from clearing gas line right of way. Most of the wood is larger than 16” diameter and which requires working around from one side to another. Oak, hickory, black walnut, some poplar. I installed a 16” bar with full chisel chain and that improved the saw noticeably. I cut my wood in 9” lengths. Of course this requires twice as many cuts for the same amount of wood, but the shorter pieces are all I can lift into the trailer. I fill my small trailer 5’x4’x2’ above the side rails, which is near the maximum weight I want to pull with a small RZR side by side. This usually takes a set of 6 Ah and one set of 5 Ah batteries. Sometimes I need a little extra to finish so I use a set of my older lower capacity 3 and 4 Ah batteries to finish off. If I were cutting 18” long pieces I think this saw might easily work up an 8’ pickup load of wood with two sets of 6 Ah batteries. The 16 inch bar with full chisel chain seems to cut faster than the Makita 14 inch bar and chain that came on it. I bought both bar and chain for $30 on Ebay. Archer brand - made in Australia. I get to rest for 45 minutes or so after unloading while my batteries recharge (in more ways than one). I like that! I’m 70 years old and fairly sedentary. All of those saws seem like they are very well built and powerful battery chainsaws. The Milwaukee especially, they make good quality tools. It seems odd to me that they chose to make the saw run on 18 Volts. Because of that the physics forces them to use really large wires and heavy motor windings to handle the resulting high amperage. Makita combined their 18 volt batteries to produce 36 volts to drive the motor thus making it far lighter and smaller with the same total power output. Power is measured in watts, total power is watt hours. Watt hours = batteries x volts x amp hours. One Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watt hours Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(18) = 216 watt hours This decision makes Milwaukee among the heaviest chainsaws @ 14.0 lbs while Makita’s weigh the least @ 10.1 lbs including batteries with equal power. But the Milwaukee is one well build machine and you wouldn't go wrong with it. Here's some info I put together. In my opinion it's weight of the saw and total stored energy in the batteriest that matters most, i.e. volts x amps. Hope this helps someone. One Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watt-hours One Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watt-hours Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(18) = 216 watt-hours One Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watt-hours One Still with 36V (nom) 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watt-hours

[@josephhorvat1664]

Hi Gerald, nice overview, thank you. However, while you are correct the power is measured in Watts=Amperes * Volts, Watts*hours are the units for the Energy the battery holds (not total Power :) ). The total energy (i.e. Watt Hours) determines how long the battery will last (of course this depends on the power drained from the battery when in use, the Power being the energy used per second/or hour). The units in the last four lines should therefore be Watt hours, not Watts, representing the energy stored in each battery. You gave very useful information nevertheless, I just thought it would be best to correct for the units, so as not to confuse people.

[@geraldmoore6257]

Yes, of course, I intended that to be watt hours - total energy storage. I edit it for future readers. Regarding work output or horsepower or watts it is strange that battery powered tools don't list this parameter. I wish battery saws would spell out horsepower or watts output. It would be helpful to the consumer in order to decide what saw they need. You know, of course, that watt-hours isn’t horse-power or watts @ maximum output and you can’t even really translate corded brushed saw wattage directly to horsepower (because of efficiency losses). My Makita, for example, uses two 10 cell batteries or 20 18650 Lithium cells. Each cell can output up to 70 watts each continuous, therefore the Makita battery saw motor can output 70 x 20 or 1400 watts @ peak power, that’s 1.88 horsepower. This is the equivalent of a brushed corded saw running at 1750 watts due to the high efficiency of the brushless DC motor. It must be noted that we rarely ever run a saw continuously. At 1400 watts continuous peak my saw would only run for a little more than 9 minutes with 216 watt-hour battery. But that not how saws work, sometimes they don’t draw full power and sometimes they aren’t running at all. It takes me over an hour to get a load and consume 500 watt-hours. This is because I'm loading and moving wood or going from one spot to another, not not sawing full power in an uninterrupted manner. Some battery saws are more powerful, albeit much, much heavier. Most use the same 18650 batteries, but some use 20700's or 26650’s or a musher greater number of batteries and can therefore output more continuous power and drive an even longer bar. For example, a certain Echo battery has 28 18650 cells each capable of outputting about 70 watts each. That’s 70x28, or 1960 watts continuous power or 2.6HP - Wow. Amazingly however, the Makita 6Ah battery set contains approximately the same total energy as that battery, 218 versus 204 watt hours. Which means both saws should cut the same amount of wood on a battery set, albeit, the Makita SHOULD be a bit slower. For me, the important part is not speed, but weight (my back). The Makita does it with close to half the weight. Because, who wants to trim limbs with a 20 pound bowling ball? Thanks for your interest, I'll edit.

[@jimlegacy]

@@geraldmoore6257 truly amazing oh, I just wanted to say thank you for your review and a world of information. I am in the decision-making process of a rechargeable battery chainsaw at the moment! You like your Makita but you also had good words for the Milwaukee. I guess I'm old school I thought the More Voltage in the battery was a stronger chainsaw but from your review that is not the case. I have to make a decision soon, thank you again for the info.

[@geraldmoore6257]

Thanks for telling me that you benefited from my comment. Here's more crap to think about. Total energy stored in the batteries is not all you need to consider either. Some brands use more cells or bigger cells and can output more continuous power or watts or horse power. One Stihl battery contains 30 each 18650 cells whereas Makita uses only 20, 10 in each battery. I wish Makita made a 15 cell battery. Typically, 18650 high power cells can output about 70 watts each, so that saw can output 70x30 or 2100 watts of power during cutting versus only about 1400 watts for Makita. However the total power of the Stihl battery is listed as 227 watt-hours, about the same as two Makita 6Ah LXT batteries. They probably cut the same amount of wood, only the more powerful saw cuts it faster (theoretically). Most saws use the 18650’s, but some use 20700's or 26650’s (much bigger) and can therefore output more continuous power and thus use an even longer bar. For example, a certain Echo battery has 28 18650 cells each capable of outputting about 70 watts each. That’s 70x28, or 1960 watts continuous power or 2.6HP. I don’t think I need anymore power to cut firewood, I doubt it would save me much time. The downside to more power is more weight. Some saws weigh up to 20 pounds with battery. The heaviest bowling ball allowed is 18 pounds. You have to be young and strong to manhandle them. It's curious how tool companies try to leverage the general population's lack of scientific understanding. To the average person, more volts---->more power. The reality is that volts isn't power all. A stack of 10 lithium button batteries is 36V but you can't cut wood with button batteries. Most of the battery saws with 16" bars require upwards of 1200 watts output to cut reasonably fast. Corded saws run 20% higher amperage for the same work output because they typically use brushed motors and are less efficient. The tool companies even leverage the fact that lithium batteries read about 4 volts right off the charger. 20 cells x 4 volts = 80 volts. The reality is that lithium cells produce a flat voltage throughout use of 3.6 volts so a 60 volt saw is really 54V. They further market this as "max" for that reason. The consumer then reads something more into that maximum initial volts and believe it means even more power. A big disadvantage to high volts is difficulty balancing all those series batteries. Also, they are like old series Christmas lights, one goes out, they all go out. Whatever saw you chose, decide how many batteries you need. It takes about 500 to 700 watt hours of power to fill a pickup with 18" wood. Read the Wh rating on the batteries and buy accordingly. The whole reason I have Makita is because I already had LXT tool batteries and 6 chargers. It was the cheapest way to go for me rather than get onto another battery platform.

[@tysonholm6795]

I bought the echo 56v on clearance the other day at home depot for $80, was a no brainer. I've had my heated jacket for 3 yrs, love it

[@scrambled1213]

The type of chain and the way the chain is sharpen makes a huge difference. Even though the chains where just sharpen, they did not look overly sharp. There is a bit of an art to sharpening a chain saw well.

[@robertgutheridge9672]

Who ever sharpened the chains didn't know what they were doing. They should put a titanium modified chisel tooth on then they will know what a good chain will do

[@johnhibbs815]

Noticeable difference of chain sharpness but also big difference between cutting six feet of limb from the tree and cutting the stob from the same limb with no weight pulling it away from the tree along with diameter being slightly larger.

[@1bottlefed]

What I am noticing with this too (Echo) is I gotta put a lot of down pressure....Yeah a dull chain will tend to do that....the Echo was blowing mostly dust not chips.When you do a chainsaw comparison, You absolutely have to make sure all the chains are new to be fair.

[@gprae]

I have three Echo's and have been using them for three years now. The Echo chain was obviously not sharpened correctly. I can saw the same tree limb in half the time that Brian's did. They are absolutely reliable and bulletproof. That being said, my excavator will beat any chain saw when felling a tree, provided you also need the stump out!

[@NukesOfHazzard]

Completely agree. Ive got the same Echo and cut through limbs like that much faster and without much downward pressure at all. I could tell right away the chain was not sharp.

[@sc7383]

I also have the Echo and it cuts as good as Styhl, and not as expensive.

[@kentduggan8626]

That DeWalt wasn't sharp either

[@danielvandermerwe7921]

Yeah they are definitely being paid.. if you watch head to head videos the Echo always wins hands down

[@ryanb6658]

The echo smokes all other brands watch project farm KZbin channel to all those that don’t believe!

[@randystrand908]

536 LiXP purchased last summer as my new climbing saw. I didn't compare, just went with my fav brand Husqvarna. Love it. So nice not having to pull to start and so quiet hanging from my belt! I feel far less inner anxiety over accidentally cutting my flip line or climbing line... That extra sense of peace is worth it to me at 50' + Expensive package: Saw, battery & charger $750.

[@kennyscott1089]

Randy Stevens I have a 120i. That set me back 500$. Well worth it. I use it lots.

[@davesdailyYT]

I've tried Stihl saw before, couple times. Bought the DeWalt saw because I had batteries for it, was really liking it... Until brother-in-law got involved in a big tree job (been partners ever since) and had his Milwaukee fuel with him. I found myself cutting way bigger trees than it was intended for. I mean cutting one side then moving to the other to finish it. That little saw is a monster for 18v. I took my DeWalt back and bought Milwaukee since I already had a 9.0 & 12.0 and rapid charger. My truck was broken into and that's all I had left of Milwaukee. Just the batteries and charger that was in my garage. Awesome saw though. Yes I can tell y'all aren't tree guys, that's very apparent when you're using a chainsaw like you have a handsaw (or Sawzall blade, without the saw itself) and going back and forth like you're doing it by hand, but when you review something that's intended for 12, 14, 16 inches, don't cut 1 & 2 inch limbs with it. That's like taking Bigfoot monster truck, peeing in the dirt, park the truck on your little wet spot, "Let's see if it'll make it through or get stuck, folks!"

[@snorman1951]

I'm not sure battery saws are intended for cutting 12-16 inch logs, even though they will. As a homeowner, I cut 1 and 2 inch limbs with my chainsaw all the time because they're too big for my lopper. And I really have to question the Milwaukee 18 volt outcutting the DeWalt. Your critique of the test was spot on however. It was just lame.

[@kenreiner259]

I got tired of my gas Stihl not starting and letting me down so I purchased the Echo 58v. It feels like a real chainsaw and not a toy like some of the others I tried. It cuts great, came with the battery, has the 16" bar, and was less expensive than the others too. Mine cuts way better than what is depicted in the video. Its nice having both a gas and battery powered chainsaw for different applications. Highly recommend the Echo 58v chainsaw, it wont let you down...

[@kevantolman5182]

I am a tree guy and would like to lend a few pieces of advice: When chains are sharpened at a shop or a dealer, they typically use an electric sharpening device of some kind (grinding wheel, Dremel set up, etc.) which will usually get the chain sharpened relatively well, but they rarely check the height of the rakers. This is what sets the cutting depth of each tooth, therefore limiting the cutting speed of the chain. If you pay attention to the video, the Echo and the Dewalt had chains that had been sharpened quite a bit. If the rakers hadn't been adjusted based on the height of the tooth, it would not cut well at all. The real value in this video is what they could explain about the ergonomics of the different saws. Like the goofy secondary trigger on the echo. Things like that matter because if you want to switch to a battery powered saw, you don't want the user interface to be similar to the gas ones. This is what increases confidence and safety when switching different saws. Great job with the video.

[@sawagain1]

The "goofy secondary trigger" on the Echo is actually a very important safety feature, unlike a gas saw which obviously has to be started, a small child can walk up to a battery saw and pull the trigger and you have a potential horrible accident, fortunately the battery saws are not like the gas saws, they require a two step process to engage the chain

[@jimalmy5559]

@@sawagain1 It IS goofy. Just duct-tape it down, tho, and problem solved.

[@kenreiner259]

I think the trigger safety thumb switch isnt bad. You only use it to start the saw, once its going you dont need to keep your thumb on it. Its a great safety feature. This saw cuts like butter for me. It feels like a real chainsaw unlike some of the others I tried. I got tired of trying to get my gas powered Stihl started and letting me down. I can always rely on my 58v Echo.

[@jonahbrame7874]

The stink runs a Picco chain. It has a narrower cut because the width of the cut doesn’t help you cut faster. They make big wide chains to deal with the force loads of big gas saws. But with an electric battery unit, the narrow chain can handle the forces and will cut with less resistance. Still uses the same chain on their pole pruners to speed up the cut.

[@HollowThrone]

A 1/4" PICCO™ MINI chain specifically, using the narrower STIHL "ROLLOMATIC® E MINI" guide bar on all their battery powered saws as of 2018 the: MSA 120, 140, 160, and 200 models not to be confused for the 3/8" PICCO™ chain and standard "ROLLOMATIC® E" bar used on but not limited to the gas powered MS 170 thru MS 211 home saws.

[@nicke1903]

I have a 021 with a Oregon Narrow Kerf setup,it's a amazing brush saw

[@toknowlj]

@D7eadnaught Humanbeing ms 211 same narrow chain for limited power, but with mineral oil can be used for butchering :)

[@botabob]

I use the Greenworks 80V PRO chainsaw. I have had good results with it I cannot say it is the best. I have not tried any other electric chainsaw. I can get about 20 rounds from one charge on 16 inch hard woods. It takes 30 minutes to charge the battery. It’s not a gas powered saw, but it never fails to start. The pros for an electric are: no mix, quit, no fumes, light weight.

[@sawagain1]

The Echo clearly had a poor chain, when you have to "push down" to get it to cut you have a chain issue, the comparison probably should have included the Makita as that is arguably the best battery saw. Finally would have been nice to include the price at $299 for battery, charger, and saw the Echo is hard to beat vs Stihl @$600

[@simong6855]

" I like to stay as un biased as i can" Said while wearing a red milwaukee jacket. ;)

[@lucascuneo213]

Simon g that’s because it’s battery powered and it’s got heating

[@lllordllloyd]

Wears jacket, doesn't much endorse the product in the video. An interesting strategy to influence the viewer... or it could be these guys were really very fair and some folks misdirect their critical thinking.

[@srulison]

@@lllordllloyd There are some people out there that watch these videos just to be critical of the people who put the time and effort into making them. I didn't even notice that the one guy was wearing a Milwaukee jacket. I was more interested in watching and listening to their reviews. These how to and informational videos are the best thing about KZbin.

[@eduardodavidmartinez]

I've been doing landscaping since childhood and gas operated chainsaws have always been a problem to turn. Good thing these companies made battery powered chainsaws... Great review!

[@eduardodavidmartinez]

Turn on*

[@Nineinch51]

I’ll have to go with the Milwaukee....... it doesn’t have to go fast but it seems like the torque is what you’re looking for....Lots of power

[@enigmaticnomadics]

I've had two of the DeWalt chainsaws burn up on the first few days of use. I don't even want to return the second one I received under warranty. Maybe they need a breaker reset? Something inside both burned up under normal use. I now use a Stihl gas model and have no problems.

[@jasonekins8073]

I'm glad I just read this. Burned up my dewalt 60v under normal use. Full battery. Full bar oil. Now it's on to either Stihl or Makita. Looks like I'll go with my instinct and the manufacturer of the gas saws that never let me down...

[@dylanruff416]

I have the Milwaukee and it has been amazing for me. Cut lots of trees down in my yard with. Powerful and quiet. Hard to beat.

[@thoth304]

Does it work with the regular M18 battery from the drills?

[@Slitthroat1776]

@@thoth304 yes it does

[@cturnbull802]

I just purchased the Milwaukee with the free blower from HD after having 2 limbs medium/large limbs fall in the yard, and the gas saw I normally borrow was not running properly. I agree 100% with the review, these are great home owner saws, and if you already have one battery type it will be a handy addition to the fleet. the best part is if it sits on the shelf for 6 months or a year without being used it starts right up with a fresh battery.

[@matthewmilam286]

I have the DeWalt 40v I’ve had it for about a year I use it to Cut wood for heating my Workshop that I run a eBay parts business out of I have to say I have always used STIHL gas saws but The DeWalt Has been very convenient and the quiet operation is The main reason for purchasing it. So far it’s been reliable I have cut up oak trees with it on one charge It’s done far better than I ever expected

[@SKC640]

Matthew Milam the dewalt just has way to many design flaws for me. I used one for a week and the bar just moved around on its own and the racheting tensioner was a joke. But I am glad you have had good luck and I hope it continues to work well for you

[@natesfirewood2766]

Matthew Milam try a green works I have one and it works great

[@bradforddevries182]

I watched the video when considering a ECHO New Brushless 56 volt and was almost persuaded not to buy one. But while at Blains Farm and Fleet I decided to try it because they had a grand opening discount. Well the good news is I just tried it out and let me tell you this is impressive. I say it cuts as good or better than the Sthil..

[@vtdrive129]

Makita - same batteries as their primary tool system and very reliable.

[@westonslawncare766]

I would say that Dewalt and Milwaukee (makita) take the cake on this one. As a business owner you want your equipment as profitable as possible. Since most likely you already have the screw guns all you have to buy is the tool. With the Echo and Stihl you have to buy new batteries and new chargers. End of the day it’s all personal preference. Great video, keep them coming.

[@chuckk458]

I just bought the Milwaukee today. They had a deal at the local farm store where if you buy the kit, you get a free 12AH battery. Couldn’t pass that up, since I’ve got a bunch of Milwaukee stuff already.

[@christinaperez254]

Exactly what I did....can't say no to a second 12.0 Ah battery!!!

[@chuckk458]

Christina, yep! Now, if only it would fit in the pocket of my heated jacket.. 😂

[@igla2187]

@@chuckk458 portable sauna at that point

[@robd3061]

Great video, guys! Seemed like an honest opinion of each saw. Personally, I would go Milwaukee since I'm in the platform. Battery chainsaws are really coming along, now. As a non-pro, I would definitely go battery over gas.

[@michaelfenner1715]

Used the Milwaukee to cut down and cut into fire wood about 30 trees loved that saw was not mine but the barriers lasted about 45 min per charge cut up to 20 inch trees with it did a great job

[@donbush9091]

Milwaukee all day Chain saw Weed eater and all attachments Blower Hedge trimmer too No gas and a ton of power and i use two 5 hour batterys 8 hour battery 9 hour battery

[@SuperMeltube]

And same battery as all other Milwaukee tools

[@dphotos007]

Sthil makes the best outdoor tools. Had my gas string trimmer for 3-4 years now. Starts on the second pull each time and it fast to refill the string head. I used to have an Echo and the carburetor broke many times. Love my Honda gas mower too. The new battery technology is very cool and with all my new tools I will be going towards the battery tools. I use my tools as a homeowner not a professional. I liked the Sthil or the Milwaukee in this test best.

[@reptileguardian941]

Gotta love when a gas powered tool/machine starts with a few pulls. Just makes my morning.

[@wardor9214]

#4 Dewalt #3 Echo #2 Milwaukee #1 Stihl. All great chainsaws but the Stihl would be my first choice simply because of the power and torque that it has. I have never used any but i would buy and recommend the Stihl over the other's for first choice. Brian these comparison video's are great and very informative keep up the great videos.

[@loucifer4205]

Dewalt #1 Milwaukee is garbage

[@gregrowe1168]

How many volts is stihl battery? It sounded most powerful to me too. Probably also most expensive as well.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I’m not sure actually that was the only question no one answered for me

[@gregrowe1168]

Its actually only 36V, which seems low salemruralkinginc.stihldealer.net/products/batteries-and-accessories/batteries/ap300/

[@59stevew]

How did the bar lube do on the different saws?

[@conantdog]

Stihl chain is the highest quality production chain in the world . Cutting speed and sharpness is the winner . Stihl knows saws , Milwaukee knows saws alls 😁 Keep up the good work 👍

[@vincentstouter449]

Ever tried EGO? They have an 18”, PMG (brushless), tool-less saw with a fast RPM/chain speed. I own an older 14” EGO saw and have experienced excellent results. The advantages the EGO has is a vast array of tools and battery size. This allows selecting the battery size (ie weight) for the job. The biggest advantage to the electric I see besides engine issues and maintenance is when one is working above the ground....starting, stopping , and adjusting gas saws in the air is a pain. Battery swaps are quick and efficient compared to gas. 😎

[@javegis]

When you start pulling saw back and forward - you know sucker is dull. (10:54)

[@ProjectAnubisUSA]

5:45 “all freshly sharpened”... let’s face it Milwaukeee was the best purchase lol 😂 it is modular for batteries being used on all their products nothing proprietary especially if your in the bush and only have a few batteries you don’t have to remember to bring the “chainsaw battery” or need multiple. Best bang for the $$$.

[@deirdretrotman2104]

Feeling smug I have a Sthil and I absolutely love it! I’m a woman of 75 b t w and could no longer pull start.

[@harleyrider025]

Id have to say from what i see here is the one with the lowest voltage battery seems to cut the fastest...Milwaukee

[@dangrass]

sorry if I missed it, but which Still model did you test?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

MSA200

[@6bt_str86]

Yeah, but you can twist the whole tree down with Milwaukee's impact gun 🏌️

[@reddawgrup1779]

6BT_ Str86 LMAO!! good one 👍

[@BespokeCarpentry]

Hell yeah!

[@ifixeditmyself1926]

Love how you guys got right into it!

[@MrChevy9119]

I have the Milwaukee chainsaw and it it amazing. Very light weight and versatile.

[@Kntryhart]

I own a Greenworks 40 Volt chainsaw. It works well for limbing like you demonstrate here. The saw cuts very well and for the most-part I am satisfied. I can get several hours of non-constant use. I own also a Stihl Farmboss (18-inch bar) and a Poulan Pro (16-inch bar). The Greenworks has a couple things I don't care for: 1) The time it takes to ramp up to speed once the throttle is depressed (annoying); 2) When you finish a cut, the saw will power-off completely after one minute of non-use (incredibly annoying). If you make a cut, set the saw down to move a limb and come back to the saw to make another cut you need to power up the saw - every-time! Why Greenworks doesn't allow the user to select the auto shut-off time is disappointing (say 1 to 5 minutes). Other issues: The nut that secures the bar likes to loosen no matter how much I tighten it. The lanyard that keeps the bar oil reservoir tethered to the saw failed the first time I removed the cap. Anything over five-inches in diameter is asking too much of this saw; it will over-current and automatically shutdown. Finally, customer service is non-existent; my e-mail messages to them have never been answered.

[@jeffpescinski8374]

I have a greenworks and love it. I would guess all the battery saws power down after some time of no use. All chainsaws with 1 nut vibrates loose. I had a gas steel that did the same thing. If i use a wrench and tighten more than my hands can do it will stay tight. I have muscular dystrophy, so using electric is the only way I can cut firewood anymore. I have 4 batteries so I can cut a long time. If I had to compare my gas stihl to this electric. I would say they cut about the same. Just faster not having to fill gas and the vibration of gas saws were difficult for my muscles. I couldn't hold the saw after a few tanks if gas.

[@Dibelchii300]

Most likely the Echo, DeWalt and Milwaukee saws have standard 3/8" low profile pitch chains and the Stihl has the 1/4" Picco narrow kerf chain.

[@jrdini77]

can you change the dewalt chain out for the sthil

[@AATreeService]

Whoever sharpened that echo SUCKs at it. U guys need to bring that chain somewhere else. That is absolutely terrible

[@aegeusmax3646]

Yes most definitely

[@KM-os4be]

I can also see the Echo chain was sharpened by a hack.

[@richardbrechbuehl2651]

That chain was not sharp. And sawing back and forth will not make a full chain cut lol.

[@richardbrechbuehl2651]

DULL

[@markinwa5884]

DeWalt looked pretty dull as well.

[@peteduncan921]

The quality and sharpness of the chain is more important than any other differences between these saws. The fact that you can't fit the same chain to all four of these saws makes it difficult to do a fair head-to-head test. You noticed that the Milwaukee chain cut very well, even after pointing out the slower speed of that saw. The Echo and the Dewalt would probably have done much better if they had better (sharper?) chains installed. If you do have a sharp,aggressive chain installed, then the available torque is likely to be more significant that the top speed of any given saw. If the torque is not available, an aggressive chain design will sometimes get too much bite in the wood and bog down the motor. If the Milwaukee is geared down to provide more torque at slower speeds, that may be a smart compromise in the design.

[@mylesmastersen3520]

Drinking game, take a shot every time these guys say “ I’m not a tree guy”.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Everrybody!! Shots shots shots shots

[@irondoctor6504]

What a pair of morons!

[@mr.s8687]

Thank you for the demo and being fully transparent and not being biased and just being real. You two are great.

[@dimik3855]

When the video began and I noticed the dude wearing the Milwaukee jacket, I knew which of the chainsaws would win. Red electric rules and Stihl for gas. Datswateyemtalkinbout.

[@alcosteam]

Our local utility companies started using some stihl cordless saws, then the Milwaukee's come out. They have dumped the Stihl saws and all went Milwaukee. The Milwaukee is heavier than the Stihl saw but the performance over the Stihl in the real world relegates the Stihl into almost a toy category of saw. A big plus is many of the utility crews already had milwaukee impact guns and other tools so battery compatibility is a win win.

[@sunnydayssandytoes4337]

Thanks for the reviews. Looking at Greenworks PRO 18-Inch 80V Cordless Chainsaw with 2.0 AH Battery for a Christams present. We have a lot oaks that my husband needs to keep cleaned up around the house. What do you think Compared to the Stihl?

[@nzzenith]

SunnyDaysSandyToes I'd buy green if they sold it in my country

[@shinyokoyama8470]

I would not buy greenworks. They are not made well. Stihl and Echo makes really good chainsaws. Stihl $600 Echo $300. And with the Echo losing to the Stihl The Echo either had a dull chain or had the chain to tight. If your hubby has Makita tools as in 18v lithium Ion batts get the Makita 36 volt it uses the same battery playform as 18v Makita. Any saw they showed are much better choice then Greenworks.Greenworks are one of the brands made really lousy and try to compete with real stuff because they sell them way cheaper. Oh and I did not see the date on this vid so if you bought a Greenworks you probably know its junk by now if he uses it much.

[@alexfarley4904]

@@shinyokoyama8470 I have had a green works for about 4 years now. And it works great . I'd recommend them for sure as a homeowners saw. Chopped up multiple full ash trees with it. Doesn't compete with my gas Husqvarna by far but it's definitely held up and I work it hard in the bush some days. Nothing has broke or failed on me

[@mrgump89]

I run a DisasterRelief Org. And got two of the Milwaukee chainsaws and love them. They have the same power as 46cc gas.

[@raleighveal1359]

I have to laugh when I see people start sawing like they or using a hand saw when they or using a chainsaw.

[@ianwhitecross4196]

Thought the same, but in all honestly, I've caught myself doing the same. When I realize I'm doing it, I chuckle and shake my head at myself.

[@hadams16318]

I was thinking the same thing! A professional should know better. I catch my 20 year old son doing that because he doesn't have that much experience.

[@jonathan2012alvarado]

SPENCE bro gold 💎

[@mturner221]

You only do that when the chain isnt sharp. A good sharp chain will grab and pull into the wood in a way that wont cause you to push down or saw back and forth. The only sharp chain in this video was the stihl. The other 3 saws were shooting straight dust out not chips. Someone sharpened the teeth but left the rakers too high.

[@jamescutler8055]

I use the Milwaukee 12V and 18V lines now after dumping Dewalt and Bosch, the chainsaw is next on the list. After seeing for myself how their battery table-saw worked I am convinced that any tool they make will perform exactly how I need it to. I wish they would hurry up with a battery router.

[@martylucas8557]

James, if you were impressed by the Milwaukee Table Saw, then you’ve got to check out the M18 Fuel 7 1/4” Dual Bevel Miter Saw. It really kicks ass, e.g. powerful, light weight (28 lbs), beautiful fine cut and powerful for it’s size.

[@jamescutler8055]

@@martylucas8557 I already have it

[@martylucas8557]

James Cutler, are you impressed? I haven’t really used it yet. I plan on cutting crown moulding for our new kitchen cabinets I recently installed. Really looking forward to it.

[@jamescutler8055]

@@martylucas8557 Works great.

[@martylucas8557]

James Cutler, I can’t wait to start using. I ordered from CPO Milwaukee. I ordered refurbished, tool only for $299.00. I kept looking for deals, it they were hard to come by....it was either $399 for bare tool or $499 for the kit. It took about a week to receive. They shipped in an oversized white box. When I opened up the box the first thing I saw on top was a new 5A battery, Charger, fine cut Milwaukee blade, clamp and bag. All of the items were unused. Next the saw...they sent me an unused (might as well be brand new) Miter Saw, it still had the large zip tie and original packing foam. Not a scratch or piece of dust on the saw. I’m definitely going back to CPO!! What stand did you go with? I was looking at going with the WEN portable stand.

[@jessehagenbeck2624]

Honestly using the old 40 volt DeWalt is not really fair as they have a 60 volt out and that is the main line out now so why not use that when comparing to this newer stuff?

[@trevors8577]

The 40v is more of a commercial saw and better than the 60v according to many

[@johndarraugh3817]

Any opinions on the battery Husqvarna equipment.

[@dalerudd6330]

I used to be a logger when I was younger so I am familiar with chainsaws. Stihl makes there own chainsaw chain and it is far superior to most other chain and that may be one reason it cuts so well on the battery powered saw.

[@danheino7006]

@Omega Minus Chevy /Ford...Stihl /Husq...whatever they put the money out for is the best .

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

That Stihl looks like it has an electric braking system which is awesome for safety and for speed. You transition faster from one work area to another when you have the peace of mind of knowing your chain stops almost immediately when you stop the power to it. And at 45° if you would've said you were cold around my old man, he would've said, "Then shut up, stop letting all that hot air escape your body through your mouth and get to work." 😆 Great demonstration fellas. Thanks. 👍

[@Cyberslug1]

Electric works professionally, I have all electric equipment except 1- 32" mower and my Steiner sub-compact tractor. My running costs are 1/16 of gas equipment. You didn't have any of the best saw systems. You had the Stihl but you didn't have the Stihl AR 2000 backpack battery which allows 7-11 hours of continuous runtime and more power!! The Greenworks Professional products and backpack battery allows 6-9 hours of continuous runtime. The EGO electric system will run ALL equipment ALL day on 4 or 5- 7.5ah batteries And you didn't have the Redback 120 volt saw, It runs 2-4 hours on 1 medium sized battery and has tons of power!!! I rather carry around 4, 5 or even 8 batteries than 2-4 gas cans. Change gas filters once a year. Change engine oil and filters every 100 hours. Change air filters once a year and clean 3-4 times a year. Change hydro fluids and filters every year. Clean and gap spark plugs every 200 hours and/or change once a year. Clean, lap valve seat surfaces AND Checking and/or replacing belts every week. But great review, It gives people and idea of what the basic systems are capable of. The commercial systems provide more power and much much much longer runtimes.

[@jessel8833]

That's sweet man -- I have considered switching to battery powered for a few years now -- I'll have to check back in after reading all the info you posted. Lol, that's a ton of extra money to show us those more expensive options & additions to make battery powered tools the better choice -- BUT, still need to mentioned. I'll check that out

[@jamesavery6671]

You would rather wear a back pack with a cord hanging off ya than haul a gallon of gas to the job sight ?

[@Cyberslug1]

@@jamesavery6671 Yes, Of course!! Low noise, Your not breathing in toxins ( you may not care about toxins now but after 15 -20 years of breathing it you will !!). You can also use the smaller batteries, you just have to change batteries every 3-8 lawns (depending on battery size and job size). If you like paying 14X to 16X more in operating cost and poisoning yourself to do the same thing as an electric..... Well that's up to you.

[@Cyberslug1]

@@jessel8833 Yes up front costs are high VERY HIGH but you will make is back in after the first year or 2 depending how many customers you have and your profit margin. Remember you will no longer be paying for gas and most maintenance. You will love it and the neighbors will love you too!!

[@rottiejakeluke]

How’s the pricing of the saw, battery, charger...the total package of the Stihl compare to the Milwaukee? Thanks

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Overall 2 years later I still prefer the STIHL

[@leeellisfabs]

I bought the Oregon recently because of the self sharpening capability is has. It seems to have a very aggressive chain on it

[@trickmytruck32]

Would u recommend the dewalt for someone already on the 40v line

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Yeah. But if you want a serious saw go with the STIHL

[@jd6041]

I own an echo chainsaw and it cuts like a beast. It has a basically new chain and it keeps up with my brand new 16in stihl gas saw, and I’ve had the echo for about a year now so I totally disagree with their assessment of the echo.

[@johnathonrambo]

I believe they had the chain on backwards

[@bwbailey12]

That echo must not be as sharp as the stihl cause I just bought the echo today and it cuts thru way faster than the one you showed

[@ericmosher7857]

I can tell by watching each saw cut that the dewalt and echo chains weren't sharp so of corse they won't cut as fast and will require more pressure.

[@steveb.7120]

Yeah - obvious dull chain.

[@pandyslittlesenpai1777]

In addition listing to to sound I thought the chain might be too tight. It didn't sound nearly as smooth as the sthil.

[@christinerichardson9119]

Great video boys!

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Thank you

[@alexrandom656]

Only Stihl has a “Wet weather friendly “ Logo, rest of those battery operated saw not supposed to use in Rain. Husqvarna 536li XP much faster than Stihl msa 200. Husqvarna has 20 m/s chain speed , which is in pair with petrol chan saw speeds. Stihl don’t provide such important information ( for obvious reasons, it is noticeably slower than Husqvarna)

[@jessel8833]

Very important information -- None of us want to be doing this type of work in the rain/snow/elements, BUT inevitably we always end up in the weather & elements -- Therefore, machines that can withstand water & or take a beating are always more valuable. I have used most of these tools & have to say STIHL is by far one of the best brands. My guys beat the heck out of these tools. They get dropped, smashed, not cleaned often enough, ran until they're dry, so many "wrong ways to operate" (I yell at them all the time after running them through proper operating procedures several times a year). However, STIHL is only brand that trucks forward & starts every time, cuts every time. Final point -- This should be a given, but any chainsaw with a sharp chain will cut great -- BUT, as soon as you hit dirt, nick a hidden nail or piece of wire in trunk of a tree -- chainsaw is useless. ****Always have 1 or 2 spare chains for each machine you have with you, so you can switch out chain when the accidents happen & get right back to work. LOST TIME can cost so much more than paying $20-30 for an extra chain or 2.

[@dimik3855]

The higher voltage tools like DeWalt are not what you want to be using in the rain. 18 volt should be no probs.

[@alexrandom656]

Dimi K Voltage makes no difference whatsoever. 16v high discharge battery could supply supply as much current as 80v battery ( for shorter time , obviously)

[@pags5zonda623]

Bought my Milwaukee because they had it running in a tub of water at my cities big bolt store. Literally a tub of water with a Milwaukee stand and battery and everything submerged, running slow throttle but running.

[@jondoes8222]

How thick limbs can you cut? Will it cut big limbs say 8 inches or 10 with ease or will that take more energy from the battery?

[@vanman5593]

ALL YOUR CHAINS ARE BLUNT YOU NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO SHARPEN THEM PROFESSIONALLY

[@danfontaine6992]

Brian I have Ridgid batteries for hand tools drills saws stuff like that do they make anything for weed wackers or hedge trimmers let me know thanks

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I'm not sure Rigid offers any OPE yet sorry.

[@Badassbowtie75]

I want to see the Milwaukee and stihl vs the Husqvarna and Makita

[@ajayshakya3439]

Timothy Smith as देसी मशीन लकड़ी काटने वाली

[@densnet]

makita will be the winner.

[@reddawgrup1779]

rustytr gonna be needed alot more batteries then!!!

[@rbtree]

@rustytr Not even close. The new Husqvarna 540iXP would be the best..though it is designed for arborists

[@its_evers6445]

Man, I love your videos. Its always nice seeing Brandon too! You guys seem like really good guys. I also like how unbiased you guys are, it truly helps. Thanks for all that you do! Also, I went with the 91r (only one in stock cant complain haha) and an echo speed feed 450. Dont know how I weedeated before without the speed feed head haha

[@davidstewart2051]

Keep your hand on top of the handle so if the saw kicks back the chain brake stops the chain from cutting you open many people have died from having there hand on the side of the handle

[@davidmichael3853]

Yep. It's TRUE. With your hand on the side, giant trees fall directly on top on you

[@anthonysamuel143]

Anyone else notice the sparks coming from the chain on the Dewalt saw on one of the first cuts. I don't think they gave any of these chains any time to get oiled properly

[@mickhvac3908]

Red for the win

[@nick8649]

Been using a stihl battery saw with a 12 inch bar and that is now my constant carry on my four wheeler when checking the perimeter of my property. I have cleared downed 8-10 inch trees and when you let the chain do the work and not force it it you can get many cuts. I cut one face cord of 5 inch limbs with one battery.

[@mikeadams2339]

Nick i have done the same with my 120 stihl. At 60 years old i last alot longer cuting smaller stuff than if i use o38 or 461. Yes the little saw can cut big locust if it has to.batt won't last as long but the tree or branch will be out of the way. No ethanol or fumes to worry about.

[@TheMboe76]

LOL!! "Hey guys, I'm not trying to endorse any one brand..." --- Wearing a "Milwaukee" jacket. 🤣😂

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

They make a good heated jacket. What do you wear? Working mans Peacoat? 😆

[@jrsosa6943]

Great review using the chainsaws for actual work. Honest and fair review of the chainsaws.

[@TheCrittercam001]

6:05 Using a sawing motion while using any chainsaw whether battery powered or gas powered is NOT something a pro would do. Just sayin'. You guys did admit to not being tree guys so you get a pass on this one.

[@TheCrittercam001]

From one Bryan to another Brian thanks for not taking offense to my comment brother! Thumbs up AND a new sub!

[@Cake41579]

I noticed the same thing. It drives me nuts to see that. It’s a definite sign of a dull chain. Whoever sharpened that chain had no clue what they were doing. I could tell the rakers weren’t knocked down.

[@aaron_333]

Have you tested Makita's brushless chainsaw offering?

[@jackd1582]

Hey I measured the exposed (usable part) of the Stihl 14"bar vs the echo16" and the echos was shorter, plus the echo would run on for a bit after releasing throttle

[@jackd1582]

And the echo is way heavier

[@jackd1582]

And a noisy fecker

[@philipgonzales3]

Have you guys tried out the DeWalt 60V yet?

[@seanburke1853]

I have been running echo gas chainsaws for a lawn care company and to be honest might go to the Milwaukee M18. I do not use the gas saw enough and it can be a hassle to start it at time. These compact battery tools seem great to throw on a lawn care trailer. Thanks for the video I appreciate the information.

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

Got a worx, I’m really happy with it. Cut down. 15+ trees between 5 in across to 18 inch across. And cut them down to firewood.

[@chrisworthman3191]

"I don't know what I am talking about but here is my opinion."

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Lol 🤣

[@Packey85]

We use the milwaukees in a very harsh environment at the mine I work at and they are amazing. Highly recommend. However that Stihl looks pretty impressive.

[@hairstonpropertymanagement2937]

I used the Echo at GIE and I loved it.

[@o0Tafoya0o]

Sure, thats fair! Love the video !

[@samueltopps9015]

I would like to see the DeWalt flexvolt, Husqvarna and Makita

[@4philipp]

Samuel Topps all with brand new chains and proper logs

[@moushunter]

For an infrequent user an electric is excellent. Nothing is more frustrating than spending all day pulling the dang starter cord, filling the gas tank, forgetting to dump the gas after the day is done and running the carb out. Now that I had shoulder surgery I can't even pull a starter rope. It would have been nice to hear the price differences in the saws though. The milwaukee looked the best but probably the most expensive too.

[@checkyoursix]

Milwaukee heated jackets rock

[@TheWoodsman661]

Heated jackets? As in, electrically heated?

[@jimalmy5559]

These battery saws are great for limbing and pruning and taking down small trees. Add some bar oil, hit the button, and you're off! I have a 60cc Husky 555 for serious work with larger trees, but I use the Dewalt battery saw for 80% of my needs.

[@greent4260]

Jim Almy FYI that’s a 54cc saw they rated 1 less on that saw but if it is a 555 and a 559 is only 59 cc the last 2 digits are the cc size and the fist digit is the generation expect the 572xp which was made as a replacement when the 372 where still being made and made again in the 5 generation

[@chrisdyson1566]

Nothing irritates me more than seeing someone sawing backwards and forwards with a chainsaw. Grrrrr

[@generios3129]

Like Brandon's feedback on the equipment too. Most unbiased reviews. I believe gas all the way but the equipment doesn't seem too bad.

[@randychastain7098]

Need to do more reviews on Husqvarna I've used them for a long while for my lawn service, Chastains Mowing Landscaping and more. And ther awsome!

[@nduncad686]

One thing to note which is a major factor in performance the stihl has a smaller chain than the others I believe it is a 1/4 chain vs the standard 3/8 low profile use on the other 3

[@laarshegdish6016]

Not a tree guy myself, but some customers need low-hanging branches cut. Love the idea of a battery powered saw, as it's one less mouth to feed from my two-stroke mix can! I'm with you on the Stihl for speed.

[@greenstoogeslawncarellc7801]

Hi Brian, we use the Dewalt 40v , perfect for small jobs, battery power is quite, perfect for those 7:30 -8:00am trimming jobs! Love the videos , keep up the good work

[@TristenHernandez]

Echo makes great weedwhackers also. I’m a fan of Echos electric stuff. I’m slowly replacing my gas stuff with electric

[@EnigmaticPeanut]

i love echo gas powered tools, but i dont think their battery tools are the best on the market. I'm an EGO guy. Love it.

[@brucefrederick6841]

sorry to hear that:(

[@ryanb6658]

I use the Makita top handle for climbing and rear handle 16” for around the chipper and for bigger stuff, they work Great I love them, I already had a ton of batteries so that’s why I went with makita, great video thanks