Bride Wants A BLACK Wedding Dress! | Say Yes to The Dress

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The bride wants nothing to do with a traditional white wedding dress for her New York masquerade wedding. Her dream dress is black, but can she be persuaded into another color?
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From Season 8 Episode 15
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[@lovedaybebe5881]

Never understood why the bride wouldn’t just look at black ball gowns ! 5 grand could get you a beautiful ball gown !

[@krusticle-1]

I was coming to say the same thing! Just buy a black evening dress! It will be less expensive without the "bridal" label.

[@lovedaybebe5881]

@@krusticle-1 absolutely , I’m in the Uk but have worked in retail and at times , high end . That would be more than enough for a truly gorgeous gown 👌

[@sky-uq2gb]

Yes true

[@blueice011]

My thoughts exactly. The world is full of endless black party gown options in different price ranges, from basic and affordable, elaborate and couture to thrift store incredible vintage finds. Why would anyone look for a black gown in bridal saloon is beyond me. The same goes for any dress that is not in typical bridal color. With that budget, she could have so much more options. Nothing wrong with this dress, for sure, Pnina knows how to construct the dress to fit the body well, but it's way too simple for that price tag.

[@lovedaybebe5881]

@@blueice011 couldn’t agree more , especially with regards to vintage. I bought a fantastic 1950s ball gown , beautifully boned and so elegant for a ball , it was 50 pounds ( I’m from 🇬🇧) to have the same dress made today would cost thousands ! Wish say yes to the dress would do more pre loved dresses to suit the financial climate !

[@crestachristensen6215]

She should have had everyone wear black and white and she wear that red dress! Then she would have definitely stood out and it would have been so enchantingly beautiful!

[@melodylaila]

I had everyone wear white 🤍 to my white wedding. My hub & I wore blue 💙

[@RevLeigh55]

There are much better places to look for a black evening gown than in a bridal salon.

[@macy6012]

This! When women want to get married in colored dresses, they should visit salons that make evening gowns

[@magnoliaflowers4861]

But then she wouldn't have been on t.v.

[@juanita_rocksteady2761]

​@@magnoliaflowers4861Exactly!😂

[@xxxx-qo9dh]

Yeah, well she wanted a wedding gown, not a ball gown

[@ellievergo6354]

The show had plenty black dresses out of her price range

[@GpD79]

For someone who wanted to think "out of the box" and get a black dress, why the heck did she put herself in the epitome of bridal salons that is flush with _white_ dresses? Talk about putting yourself smack dab in the middle of the box! She should've gone to someplace other than a bridal salon. I'm glad she found something she liked though!

[@Guineapigsreadingbooks]

I completely agree with that sentiment. It probably is all about this idea of the experience, which is very heightened in Kleinfeld since it is expected for such a pricey wedding boutique.

[@lisamelroy2855]

I'm glad she gave the red gown a second chance, because I thought it looked fabulous on her and went with the mask and theme beautifully!

[@JiannaSandoval]

You can have a simple dress but accessorizing can really make you look "unique" like you want

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

True to some extent just like what we see on the episodes with Lori. Let’s jack her up and voila.

[@mcrchickenluvr]

Yeah but the accessories can destroy a budget.

[@purplemosquito86]

⁠@@mcrchickenluvrWell, accessories are more likely to be worn multiple times throughout the rest of their lives, especially for things like earrings or necklaces that will always fit regardless of weight gain or weight loss. Not everyone can still fit in their wedding dresses as they get older or go thru other body changes. While some brides do rewear or repurpose their wedding dresses, there are others who just wear it once & keep it in the closet. Spending more on accessories rather than the dress may be a better long term investment. Also, one can find good accessories that are inexpensive & don’t destroy the budget. Some may want to pay more for precious gems or real gold. Others may prefer imitation gems or imitation gold.

[@JiannaSandoval]

Agreed. As someone who grew up poor, and is broke, yet had a wedding, (and is goth) you can find creative ways to have budget-friendly accessories. You don't have to spend $$$$ on accessories.@@purplemosquito86

[@xeecstasy3183]

I don’t understand why you said it like that? Some people just have preferences

[@nancymckinley3068]

I like the red dress but when they added the black tulle she looked like she might work in a saloon in the Old West.

[@mariesmith1616]

Exactly. It changed completely the elegant Venetian look to Old West theme.

[@annebodee]

Yeah, it was pretty on its own.

[@hollylovesr]

Reminds me of Halloween

[@vickicrisler5294]

I agree with all the other responses! A saloon dress came immediately to mind. They took a beautiful red dress, that needed no tweeking, and made it look cheap, at least to me. However, she was happy with it, and that's the only thing that counts.

[@spacey_gracie]

Like a Can Can girl..

[@TlarythPhalyn]

This makes me so glad that bridal salons have improved since this was recorded (probably 2010/11). There's nothing wrong with color and the whole white thing really just began with Victoria. Let brides justbe happy, especially with the money Kleinfelds asks.

[@blueice011]

It's not about color. Any color. it's looking for the dress that is not stereotypical bridal wear in an overpriced bridal salon. Why on Earth would anyone do that when every semi-decent store carries black cocktail dresses in all colors imaginable and especially black? She could find spectacular black dress in specialized thrift stores in NY or LA, designer vintage couture unique piece with that budget. Just don't get the logic in looking for a black dress at Kleinfeld's. They are overpriced to begin with being part of bridal wear and being bespoke color wise. With so many options elsewhere, it's simply odd. They can't offer her more than few options and she opted for one of them - with everything that's out there...? I don't get it.

[@rhondaflesher8313]

My mom got married back in the 50's and wore a light blue lace cocktail dress. My parents joked that people assumed that she was expecting was the reason she didn't wear white. I didn't show up until over a year later. She just wanted to be practical and wore a dress that she could use later on.

[@OnLifeandLove]

They mostly stock based on demand, not tradition. The majority of dresses are white because that's what most of the brides go for. Now that more colored dress requests are on the rise they adjust accordingly.

[@elmienboyes7432]

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[@cynthiastyner163]

I got married in a black dress and it was gorgeous

[@villanessa]

She was ahead of her time..now there are a ton of black bridal dress options. I do love it with the black tulle underneath.

[@aileenmccarthy8660]

Awwwww I teared up when she explained about her house and how he proposed to her at her very lowest/worst.

[@rachelgroth7108]

Same. What a beautiful moment. People really are more important than anything else at the end of the day.

[@Nero_Jero]

I think the red looks way better with the mask than a black dress would.

[@user-ng2jd8rp7p]

I think the same)

[@yannabeaudet7957]

They should have showed her champagne rose gold beaded detailing fitted dressed, I feel like it would have gone well with the masquerade theme. Could have maybe changed her mind about the black

[@JJ-ei3jh]

I was thinking the same.

[@CeltycSparrow]

I DO respect Randy and Camille for being honest with the bride about the limited options they have for black gowns, and tried to make the one dress that WAS in her budget work for her, rather than try to sell her a black gown that was way out of her budget. And the bride looked stunning in what they came up with.

[@angiebirdwell7069]

I preferred the dress before the tulle was added at the bottom. But it fit her beautifully and made her happy. Cheers!

[@kristic4472]

Why don't they just go down to the bridesmaid floor/section, and dress it up with accessories.

[@yolandabyers-goodwin2349]

I think if she had gone to David's Bridal, she would have found a black bridal gown, they have tons of them for under $1500, very elegant. I will never understand why Pnina Tornai gowns are so expensive.

[@CleoS-vx5pd]

Pnina clearly has dealings with Kleinfeld so they really give her dresses the hard sell. Which is a shame as so many other, better designers don’t get as much promotion.

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

Part of what you pay for when you're buying a designer wedding dress is the privilege of having the designer's name on your dress.

[@missharry5727]

Loved the red dress with the carnival mask. Perfect for both her and her theme.

[@MsWarriordiva]

Maybe they should carry a few more in different colors. More brides are looking for black. Aren't a lot of Asian weddings in red?!

[@jackieelizabeth8614]

This was over 10 years ago..they definitely have more colour now

[@janatan9429]

A red dress is often worn at the reception. If there's a church ceremony, that's where a bride will wear white.

[@catboxcleaner3532]

I would embrace that red dress glamour _in_ _an_ _instant!_ My question is: why are the black ball gowns more expensive than bridal gowns?

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

I'm going to guess that the black dresses are more expensive based on the designer and the embellishments

[@courtneycherry5582]

Price for dying it, plus custom what ever additional (jewels, lace, tulle, anything else you would add to the dress would also have to be dyed specifically or made special to match up with the dress. Then (this is just assuming) but once everything is made then it has to be sewed together. Then shipped to the store from anywhere in the world because it's a luxury store.

[@williamdrake9864]

She was so fashion forward and way ahead of her time. Now a days all bets are off with color. Go her!

[@mgichndz]

I’m glad she found what she loved! That’s what it’s all about 😊

[@cinderellabranch6382]

The red was perfect. She stood out more. Black would have been pretty. But not like wow!!

[@cookiekiller8563]

I just realized that you could technically just get a white wedding dress and dye it black or whatever color you want. maybe ask for a extra piece of fabric to test the dye first

[@similovelife]

Wearing color is common for asians/indians. Wish they had better options in color

[@margaretmathis4775]

The red dress is gorgeous❣️

[@mezzogal]

That was a Pnina Tornai? I'm surprised. It wasn't her usual see-through negligee gown. Quite nice. Though, I think a bit of black lace embellishment that matches the masquerade mask might have elevated it more. It looked a bit boring in the end clip at the location.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

That was what I thought too. Pnina’s dresses are usually very ugly but that one was decent.

[@CleoS-vx5pd]

That’s because this is an old clip from 2010. Her style has gone from classic stylings to streetwalker glam in the last 5 years. 😂

[@leahpope8672]

I am so sick of the naked dresses.

[@anna1417]

"I don't want to be traditional, I want to be original, I want to be myself" How many brides have said the same? Well, here's an idea: go to a tailor and design your own dress in lime green with orange polka dots. 😉

[@miamiranti9885]

I've been watching these episodes, and wondering why not go have custom dress made. Or is it in the US custom made dress even more expensive, even when it's not made by a designer? In my country, brides, mother of the brides & bridesmaid, usually have custom made dress. Most people go to a seamstress to have their custom dresses made. Price wise, dresses by seamstress usually less expensive than dresses by designer. But, the dress would be exactly to our liking & budget. In my country, those that go to designers usually have a higher budget.

[@mezzogal]

@@miamiranti9885 I think it's risky to custom make a dress because many brides don't know what exactly they want or what really suits them. There's the possibility that they design something and like it on paper but not like it when they're actually wearing it - happens to me a lot when I buy clothes online without trying them first.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Maybe they are lazy and too ideal to the point that they don’t know exactly what they want? My former friend had her Vietnamese bridal gown custom made for only $500. She said the designer just asked her questions and designed one from scratch just for her and she liked it.

[@CarlottaSklodowska]

Depend on a Vietnamese woman to know exactly how to make ANY woman look BEAUTIFUL!

[@miamiranti9885]

@@mezzogal Never thought of this point of view, make sense though. I've had some custom made dresses as part of the bride / groom family, because in my country it is customary for the bride / groom immediate family (or sometimes aunts / uncles / cousins) to wear matching / colour coordinated outfits. When we go to the seamstress there will be several fittings (in my experience 3-4 times). When we come for a fitting, that is when we can ask the seamstress for changes if required. So usually, the dress will come out exactly to our liking.

[@jeswainston]

Unfortunately, what she wants is a custom dress for off the rack prices and frankly I don’t think that can happen.

[@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061]

For her time period, it wouldn't have been that difficult to get a custom dress for that price point. But me, I make my own clothes, so it confounds me when people spent thousands on brand name dresses when I see a dress and can deconstruct it easily.

[@Judyogoya49]

After seeing the set up n the guests black would hv made more sense Randy should hv tried harder to get her one. Red looked nyc but someone could hv easily thought she was one of the guests.

[@jenn0802ifer]

That red dress on her was gorgeous!!!

[@PanwarintChaisuwan]

Totally agree 💯💯💯

[@Lizziebeth700]

I don't know what year this was filmed but today I see more black wedding dresses and they're stunning

[@theeclecticanimist4415]

*that*... makes an unbelievable statement!! brilliant red, peeks of black... and.. if everyone else at this amazing party, is in black/understated colors... she would absolutely be the centerpiece star!! amazing choice!! (my dress was red, btw hehe)

[@serahloeffelroberts9901]

I wore a beautiful black dress with colored embroidery for my wedding and was very happy with my choice.

[@BVBGirl-3313]

My wedding dress was red and i had black shoes with black and red jewlery, my husbands vest was red and black...obviously our wedding colors were red and black 😂🖤❤️

[@woodonthefire]

My guy wore pumas with the kilt?!

[@catwhiskers1919]

Beautiful dress!

[@TheSkandranon]

I love that the groom was wearing a kilt

[@lindamusser7370]

Fun wedding! Love the kilt!

[@melindarozas1334]

Love the red one with the black; it was beautiful on her.

[@catherinetiernan5888]

Wouldnt you think a place like this with prior knowledge would have gotten more black dresses in.

[@beverlydavidson6749]

I guess I just like the “old white dress”.

[@artcrylics]

"I want to be unique," but there was another red gown a guest was wearing. 😂

[@shannonhart4803]

There are plenty of fabulous black ball gowns out there for $5k or less.

[@julieplester1624]

Love the idea

[@ingridmcdonald7644]

Most people would not be able to please a person who uses the words "I expect..." People have ideas of what they want but to be inflexible generally leaves a person without what they are seeking

[@zabindhanji]

The bride looks stunning in the red dress, with black trim and mask.

[@rositadenhartog9270]

In shops with gotic clothes you can find beautifull dramatic black wedding dresses for less money.

[@naturalPaths]

It’s not just exactly what I thought I’d be wearing - It’s just not exactly who I thought I’d be marrying.

[@lethellsing]

When you’re going on a tv show it isn’t about finding a wedding dress 😆

[@molliemae5555]

The red looks really good on her.

[@LAofLA]

She looked 🔥🔥🔥 in the red

[@maddart4445]

It’s gorgeous

[@nancysmith4529]

I’m having a hard time thinking black wedding gown. Maybe add black accessories. I guess I’m more traditional thinking!

[@katiecarpenter6814]

This dress is amazing on her....but it needs a jeweled belt 😍

[@Smallsappypony]

I love this !

[@patriciarosemastromonico3870]

😂I would love a black dress if I got married again!! I wore the white gown before!! Or a blood red gown!!😂😂

[@cathybaldry7822]

I love love love the red dress

[@Kara-kx1lb]

Well maybe she needs to rethink, what color she wants.

[@zeebee8932]

Turn on CC.

[@PigmyPipistrelle13]

You're going to the wrong place for a black wedding dress. You need to look at gothic shops for black dresses or look at ball gowns. I have a huge black dress (by Sinister) for my wedding. It only cost £300. I went to a gothic shop for it.

[@zenabraithwaite1934]

Its a beautiful dress

[@L.Spencer]

Cracks me up how people think they're so different. They're not, especially the more different they think they are. Anyway, this is in 2013, was featured in a blog and an article, saying basically what we saw here. She's a showroom textile designer.

[@leahpope8672]

I agree. People who are actually different don't have to try to be different. They just are. Actually, there are a ton of unusual dresses out there, so brides really don't have to try so hard!

[@debbluitt]

I like the wedding ceremonial

[@Mary-momof8]

Add a black jeweled sash, accessories.

[@hennykatz-moryoussef1716]

Why coming to Kleinfeld when looking for a ball gown??

[@aishaupmanyu9677]

That black at the bottom made it stunning

[@kateg3815]

I love how scandalized they seem that someone would want a dress that isn't white. White wasn't even "traditional" in western culture until Queen Victoria wore a white dress and many cultures around the world prefer a dress with color. I know this was filmed years ago so taste and fashions have changed a lot.

[@thehungrygoldfish]

To be fair, this is an older episode. There wasn’t much of a selection back then for non-traditional dresses.

[@lorissasouders3578]

I just learned that fact a few months ago. I was watching wedding dresses throughout history documentary. It was very informative. Especially in 60s when the hem line got shorter lol

[@soxpeewee]

She looks great in ted

[@TengenHasAFavoriteWife]

I love non traditional colors other than plain white!!!!! The red and black is so loubitan❤❤

[@nicolaablett7790]

CAMILLE love your necklace

[@cw-s3582]

Red gorgeous..looks like Mardi grass with mask.

[@lisaperea5151]

She looks pretty.

[@lizhepper2379]

The red was a bad choice for her skin tone. Also, she clashed with her groom’s kilt. The mask with an understated colored dress with black and gold beading would have been spectacular.

[@user-yo5ui5lw7p]

Black changes the whole feel from a wedding to a funeral.😳

[@cyxap2024]

Fabric dye is always an option

[@leahpope8672]

You can be unusual and unique without wearing black! 😂

[@gyvyyii]

So?

[@themoonflowerfaerie]

There are tons of gowns in the shop that could have been made in black. I don't understand why they didn't show her more. And why not go to a shop that specializes in alternative gowns?

[@thehungrygoldfish]

Says who? The designer of the dresses or you? lol

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

But, dahling, a shop that specializes in alternative dresses ISN'T Kleinfeld's! This chick wants a unique black dress, AND the bragging rights of having found it at Kleinfeld's.

[@islandmama]

The red dress in black would look amazing

[@janiali636]

Seriously......no one is a (wow)🥴🥴🥴...I think pure black dress is looks amazing on her..

[@jennydrumm7223]

"transpire" into a wedding dress? What? Not the word she needed there. (I know, I know... I'm being nitpicky, but it just jumped out at me. 😋)

[@thehungrygoldfish]

“I would like to see it in black.” Yes, we all would, hon but they don’t have a sample dress in black and they can’t make from scratch in ten minutes for her to try on lol

[@marystacey4796]

The assistant's makeup is killing me.

[@xxxx-qo9dh]

Love that red dress, she looks a m a z i n g!

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[@lorissasouders3578]

They should have said "we have black dresses, but they are out of your price range you stated. Would you like to up your price point and try one on, or another venue. I feel like they forced her into that style of dress. That's sad because if I ever...my dress WILL BE BLACK!!! 💯 AND MY CONSULTANT BETTER NOT BRING ME ANY DRESS IN ANY COLOR BUT BLACK.

[@kaileyenns]

Lol out of the box? Every one does the fairy enchanted forest

[@rivertam7827]

For $5k she could have done so much better in a non bridal store, especially back when this was filmed. She looked lovely, but they kind of strong armed her into this dress.

[@lifesjourney65]

Not sure if I was looking for a black gown that Kleinfeld's would be my No 1 store pick.........

[@MG-hs1yb]

Ahw she was so nice n easygoing despite them ripping her off badly n not even giving her what she wanted. She def caved in due to pressure. This specific red tone clashes with her skintone a lot. All the dresses they showed her were extremely basic designs, no unique details at all. Not sure how they could straight up low to all of us n describe those dresses as “different”…

[@suemankins1692]

You should just show her what you have in black so she can see what y’all have in black so that if she sees the cost she may very well pick one of the more expensive options!!!

[@MrsMollieDollie]

I plan on wearing a black dress and let me tell you.....sometimes prom dresses are actually really nice.

[@llchapman1234]

Why do brides who don't want a "traditional" wedding gown even bother going to a bridal shop?

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

I think they want to be able to brag that they found a dress at a big name bridal boutique.

[@googleuser8338]

she didn’t go to the right store she should’ve gone to a prom dress store and try on black ones

[@elizabethjanetugby4695]

The venue was very Labyrinth crystal ball room.

[@Bekka_boo13]

I think all the dresses are boring, my wedding is in a few weeks and my dress isn’t from a store like this 🖤

[@gabygaby5701]

The dress exist but you can’t afford it!

[@karenmccabe2371]

❤❤❤

[@teachersilviamontufo]

There is another lady wearing red at the reception

[@christinebrument6851]

Bit of s shock to see the wedding venue thought it was enchanted forest look and the guests didn't seem to go with the masked ball theme. Bit confusing

[@dorisschneider-coutandin9965]

Christ, do you mean to tell me that the evening gown section there has not one black dress under 5,000 Dollar??? That' insane.