Did Cersei kill Melara Hetherspoon?

Did Cersei kill Melara Hetherspoon by pushing her into a well after Maggy the Frog told them their futures?
#asoiaf #gameofthrones #twow

[@bridge4]

Tomorrow: The Wheel of Time Teaser drops!!! ahhhhhhh!!!! Trust me. This show is going to be sooooooo sick Hey everybody - This one is just a tangent while I was rereading chapters for the next ASOIAF video. Also, sorry for being MIA in the last few ASOIAF video comment sections. There are 4 more ASOIAF videos after this one that are indirectly or directly related to Maegor, and I want to get out the main Maegor Hypothesis that started this rabbit hole before reviewing all your comments. Otherwise, I may end up falling down other rabbit holes and forget to finish off my main Maegor video. But please keep commenting because I have all the videos still open in separate windows and plan on reading every comment in all these ASOIAF videos once I finish the 4th ASOIAF video from now. Until then, keep smiling =))

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

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[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

What ever your best process works for you, works for me. I can wait.

[@kellyjohnson768]

Bridge, what far out theories do you have for Wheel of Time?

[@taotaostrong]

I love your work and whatever process works for your art. Do you Boo. ♥️😉

[@jollyfighter7319]

„Two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead“

[@feliscorax]

Ooh… The Pierces. Nice.

[@Lizzie-ve7kt]

The funny thing to me is that Cersei could’ve beaten the prophecies just by not killing Melara that night. I think it’s an interesting look into her character that she’s so narcissistic that she can’t even think of how someone else’s prophecy could affect her own and by being so selfish she ended up condemning herself to the prophecies coming true by sealing Melara’s fate.

[@yoishikakatshihe6402]

how not killing Melera would have save her for the prophecy ? ( serious question )

[@chrisrubin6445]

@@yoishikakatshihe6402 Maggy prophesied that Melara would die that day, then Cersei killed Melara later that day. If Melara did not die that day (Cersei not killing her), that would be proof to Cersei that Maggys' prophesies were lies, therefore saving Cersei from the prophesy. The only reason ANY of the predictions come true, is because Cersei MAKES them come true by believing they are real and trying to avoid them. Classic greek tragedy formulae.

[@nikitabreslin4568]

Also, she specifically remembers her screams and accusing eyes. The day would have been a lot less memorable without murder

[@evripidisalexiou6060]

Classic self-fulfilling prophecy Though to be fair I don't see how the past about marrying the king (Robert) could have been avoided

[@amywinehouse1732]

@@yoishikakatshihe6402Imo 🤔 It would’ve been avoided because it would rewrite history. Her friend liked Jamie. What if she lived and Jaime getting with her stopped them (Cersei) from having those 3 children? That’s how I see it anyway. But this is a real witch, not play play Miss Cleo type witch. Her predictions are frightfully accurate because she’s using blood magic. She even warned her first to leave. That’s the most accurate read you could give someone.

[@assumptionisthemotherofall2402]

The real question is who didn’t Cersi kill… that list is smaller

[@liliangel3551]

😂😂😂

[@shahani6037]

😂❤

[@ihmpall]

Davos seaworth

[@ihmpall]

Old Nan

[@ihmpall]

Victarion Greyjoy

[@apanapandottir205]

Cersei, Queen of sealing her own fate and digging her own grave.

[@dystopianalphaomega609]

Another indication is that Cersei remembers hearing her in the well. Had Cersei not been complicit, she could have gone and run for help and some of her father’s guardsmen could probably have rescued Melara. I suppose alternatively, the fall could have been an accident, but Cersei just decided to leave her to die to conceal the prophecy and keep Melara away from Jaime though.

[@NitpickingNerd]

she was so evil i really expected her to be defeated and killed in a humiliating way that she deserved

[@coldhands2802]

She will. She has to. The real Valonqar will not be a rock.

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

As Kingslanding burns, she jumps from the tower, like Tommen. Jaime swings out to save her, checking of swashbuckling hero trope from the lists of tropes. Cercei is falling to fast though and catching her by the neck, ooooops. Shoutout Gwen Stacy!

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

I was Team Faith until Margaery

[@keysersoze146]

One thing that's certain is that GRRM believes in self fulfilling prophecies. Cersei causes all the events Maggy predicts. Cersei killed Melara. Cersei chooses not to stop at 2 or go for 4 children. She chooses to have 3. Cersei talks Jaime into the kingsguard, leaving Aerys without Tywin to prevent or deal with the rebellion that made Robert the king she'd marry. Dany is the queen who will kill Cersei, but Dany would've died in Qarth if Cersei hadn't fired Ser Barristan. Jaime is the valonquar. Cersei driving Jaime to kill her is basically their entire arc.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

so true

[@Brandonhayhew]

Whats lady stoneheart role to meet jaime?

[@amylocke6877]

I like this n mostly agree, but not sure on her choosing to go for three children only, in the books then maybe, going by the show probably not. Also did they have contraception? Coz if not, which I doubt, u can't really choose how many u get.

[@keysersoze146]

Women in Westeros drink moon tea if they don't want to get pregnant. Plus, in the books, Cersei mentions that she had an abortion when Robert got her pregnant.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@amylocke6877 There are other ways of contraception than chemical, they use the pull out method when she's banging it on with poor Lancel, that one is effective 80%. And the way she's living after Joffrey dies, I wouldn't be surprised if she messed up her hormones so much she's not even ovulating any more. But any way, they also know that there are regularities in "moonblood", there is evidence of that in Dany's last chapter in DwD, which means they can also use the counting method. Bottom line, there are different types of birth control than moon tea.

[@jimmyjames24]

Whoa, that fits so perfectly to Cersei. I've never heard that take before, Kev. George is a master, whether his intentions are "intentional", or not. Im amazed how he absorbes each characters mentality, in order to write each chapter. I understand why it has taken him so long to finish. Your ending gave me chills.

[@DontrplytoMycomments]

Big facts and he even replies to comments. Lots of channels love to recomend we comment but never seem to reply themselves. Big thumbs up for channels that do respond. Great video bud.

[@ocsjc13]

Haha he never responded to u guys ur that much of a loser 🤣

[@DontrplytoMycomments]

Haha maybe but at least im not just stirring the pot bc I'm bored lol

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmm5866]

reading comments takes time but most youtubers do it but responding to comments TAKES A LOT OF TIME so they don't do it

[@Divine_Chareka]

Cersei was messed up since childhood 😂

[@Brandonhayhew]

So was Viserys and Dany

[@cleocatra9324]

Dont inbreed and dont spoil your kids

[@dfunkt2291]

Dude. Yeah she totally killed her. Wow was this vid well done... I mean, they really all are, but this one - the content and timing are legit perfect. Kudos.

[@dfunkt2291]

and killed her 'dead dead' at that...

[@danielwilliamson6180]

I believe it's possible Cersei may had murdered Melara to stop her from marrying Jaime and also to silence her about Maggy the Frog's prediction.

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

Jamie was going to be married to Lysa Tully cats sister

[@TheTam0613]

I've always been convinced that Cersei killed Melara. I don't even realize if Cersei ever felt badly about it? Poor sweet Melara. Although they tell all kids to avoid witches in every culture. Obviously no one taught the Lannister family about Salem! JK. Thank you so much, Kevin!!

[@Munchaussen]

For how she thinks of Melara or her end I am comfortable saying she did not care at all.

[@shortbuspimp]

One of my favorite ASOIAF channels

[@ruvend2581]

Who are the other ones? Id be happy to find some new good asoiaf channels haha

[@stephengiannini9667]

@@ruvend2581 Alt shift x is great theres also preston jacobs and lucifer means lightbringer but they are longer videos if ur into that

[@ruvend2581]

@@stephengiannini9667 alt shift x is great and i remember him mentioning preston jacobs in one of the iceberg livestrems on alt schwift x, i have to watch some of his and lucifers videos, thanks

[@ljb8157]

Me too.. he's so in depth and thoughtful .... but it's his voice too. It's perfect for this type of thing

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

I all ways took it as Cercei got Tywin to kill Melara rather than did the deed herself or Tywin killed her because she said stuff about Cercei. "Well " line is compelling, but I always thought it was because Cercei was a witness. Any of the ways I suppose, Cercei killed her.

[@distantraveller9876]

Why would Tywin have Melara killed for no reason?

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

@@distantraveller9876 because he had a reason… One: for taking Cercei to Maggi and probably not snitching. Two: because Tywin, himself, has secret interactions with Maggi that he doesn’t want Cercei and Jaime to know about : like how they are Aerys’ kids, Tyrion isn’t Joanna’s kid, Maggi’s descendant’s spicer girl is Tyrion’s actual mother, Tywin maybe murdered Joanna or exiled her (Green Grace or Brienne’s mother? Maybe), and Maggi knows Tywin’s plot to birth a Lannister king of Westeros and/or return Westerlands as a separate Kingdom . All of that is why there is an Woods Witch in Noble-child’s-slip-away-from-handlers-distance away from Casterly Rock, the keeping up with appearances Andal Seven Worshippers (which Tywin should have “removed” from anywhere near there as common practice since they aren’t accepting of the old Gods).

[@Nefarious_Bread]

Oh course Cersei had Melara killed. She wanted to kill the only witness. I thought this was a well-known fact at this point.

[@AlaskaBeary413]

Yes, yes she did. She pushed her ass in a well and didn’t tell anyone. Sociopath from the jump!! Now I watch the video…☺️

[@Blaklyon0]

Cersei was doing dirt even, when she was a kid....

[@itzelgc4637]

Thank you!! Glad you are back. It made my day a little happier.

[@sheilahilton356]

Great one Kev. Keep them coming. I do believe that Cersei killed her best friend. Do you have any theory how Tommen and Myrcella are going to kick the bucket. There are so many theories about who the Valanquor is but nothing about what’s going to happen to the kids.

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

His former theory was tommen jumping like show, not sure if that has changed.

[@laurelsilberman5705]

Accusing eyes is fairly definitive

[@AJDavis-ti2ee]

Yo bridge. Big fan. Keep it up👍

[@Ezojazol]

She did.

[@shahani6037]

Cersei is a psychopath like Joffrey. Like mother like son

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

Cersei did that shit!!!

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

Huh, I missed read this the first time around and thought Maggy went down the well, which now I realize I don't know what happen to Maggy. I always assumed Tywin killed her mirroring Randell killing the warlocks, both thought the magic was a lie: Tyrion not a king as predicted/Sam not a great warrior as promised both of course did/will come to pass. Anybody have clue of Maggy's fate, other than Kevan's assumption?

[@distantraveller9876]

You don't need to see the future to know that Tyrion was never going to be king and Sam was never going to a great warrior lol

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

@@distantraveller9876 after Cercei/Daenerys goes down and Aegon(Jon) and Drogon jet, Bran will be king. Bran won’t marry or have kids and it was the dragons the seven kingdoms knelt to anyway, so Westeros will become seven kingdoms; thereby Tyrion will become king of the Westerlands, in the future. As for Sam, he is already a great warrior since he defeated a White Walker in single combat, right? Sam the Slayer… is how the books will record him… since he will be writing those books.

[@S1L3NTG4M3R]

If I was a betting man... I would bet YEP... she's swims with the fishes... - LOL

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

YES SHE DID SHE PUSHED HER DOWN 👇👇👇 A WELL

[@vociferateforme]

I have this weird mandela effect memory that has told me that she slit the witches throat after that?? I used to watch these a drinking parties so, it might have juat been the booze and human memory.

[@MたいしS]

I wonder if Cersei married Rhaegar, would the war have been avoided.

[@jollyfighter7319]

I am convinced she killed Harlan Grandison as well

[@CottonCandySharks]

Yeah we all know Cersei

[@joshmo141x]

This video could’ve been a meme 😂 yes, she totally did

[@lucindamckinney7895]

I think she did, because Jamie was hers. No one elses.

[@joshuamoyer8342]

TLDR yes, totally

[@LisaMariavanHarmelen]

I’m almost sure she did it!

[@SadeMetsavirta]

Great grandmother...? But she looks max 40

[@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682]

I still think Maggy killed Melara.

[@cherylbaxter8986]

Cersie is a psychopath

[@Kalleesto]

yes

[@SHARKVADERS]

B...

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

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[@leiaorgana436]

I’m sorry, but why are you framing this as a theory or just a possibility? The text is as explicit as it gets. Being coy about it only contributes to shoddy media literacy.

[@0ceanque3n]

oh. my God, i have chills from the way you read the line at the end, that shit is true, as a matter of fact im going to play it again.

[@kellyjohnson768]

I don't even think this is a theory. Maggy said the person who would kill her was standing right near her. And why is he using the face of Robb's wife from the show...she's someone they made up, not Jeyne Westerling

[@tonysled6796]

What Melara said might have been true but I wonder if she told the Weirdwood network what happened by the simple fact of dying and having her soul absorbed....seems like once you die all your secrets and truths become privy to the soil.....and the Old Gods Cersei wanted to kill Maggy but instead killed her friend...or maybe Maggy did...

[@rpproductions6241]

I always get excited for your videos! Even if it covers topics I’ve heavily considered myself. I’m sure you have covered it somehow already, but if you ever take a deeper look into the Dorne pact and Dany’s weir memories about Bravos, there was something I traced a while back. The pact was signed by the Sealord of Bravos. Traced the wiki on history of Sealords to find out who it was. Something VERY strange about his name, when you scramble the letters…there’s a few extra in there but haven’t found a reverse Valyrian translator yet to see if they mean anything. But it’s Martin. Don’t think it’s a coincidence.

[@melissablackwood]

Hot Pie: I can't believe someone would do that. Arya: Cersei would do that.

[@theknightwhosmokedthelaugh7156]

Please somone explain how maggy the frog is Jane westerlings mother? I feel like that needs a video on its own

[@paolarosichetti899]

Truly? Oh God

[@inthelandofmorethansmall7582]

Great Grandmother. Not mother. But yeah somehow she was accused of doing magic and was forced to escape to the woods to avoid the pitchforks and townsfolk. She had to leave her kids behind. One of those kids was Jeynes Grandmother. Maggie, the Magei used her magic to prol9ng her youth and her life. But the TV series showed her to be younger than the books said she appeared.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Good video🎥 👍🔥🔥🔥🐲

[@uneatabletaco1358]

Haha wow! how did I miss that in the books! Great video

[@nikkiward1715]

I think it was Cersei for sure! She has always been a mean person

[@ACinemafanatic]

She’s always been a vindictive vile woman yet there’s so many layers to her

[@analauramorelrocha2383]

Jeyne Westerling is Maggy's greatgrandaughter in the books.

[@fantasyfan8015]

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[@jessib8201]

Prime video? I'll have to check it out.

[@distantraveller9876]

Much like the Wheel of Time this comment has aged like milk

[@tanyachristensen5330]

I believe Cersei did kill her

[@oscarlpf1]

This proves that Cersei has been mean and evil since she was a child, maybe due to losing her mother when Tyrion was born. Robert’s rejection and her desire to rule maybe only made her more evil and cruel

[@dayschange2]

It amuses me that while giving Hetherspoon this terrifying glimpse into her tragic, not-tto-distant future, Maggy also worked in a dig about about how Cersei's breath stinks so bad you can smell her coming.

[@a.k.7341]

Melara had the better future than Cersei. Infinitely better. When it saves you from horrific suffering, it's a very good thing

[@Munchaussen]

Yeah, she did!

[@6677en]

I think melara fell accidentally, but Cersei didn't seek for help because they weren't supposed to be there that night.

[@bengale9977]

I always thought that story was a little unnecessary. I'm like, yeah she's evil and obsessed with the prophecy. We don't need her killing her childhood friends to understand that.

[@susieq9628]

When she said you don’t need to fear my father, that smirk meant “you don’t need to fear my father, however you should fear me.”

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

The witch wasn't related to Talisa in the show. She is only related to Robb Stark's wife (Jeyne, I believe) in the book. Jayne and Talisa are two different characters. In the show he deeply loved Talisa and she was a good woman, in the books Jeyne was a Tywin spy and Robb married her because he slept with her and his honour compelled him to propose. Or maybe because she used a love potion on him, since witchcraft runs in her family.

[@TemariNaraannaschatz]

Jeyne wasn't a Tywin spy at all, her mother was. She hates her mother for it and for the fac that her mother gave her moon tea to prevent any pregnancies from Robb.