🇬🇧BRIT Reacts To COP RUNS TOWARDS GUN FIRE AND SMOKES MASS SHOOTER!

[@kevin982]

Imagine how hard it would be to run a thousand feet and still take down a target who is 100 feet away. That takes balls.

[@murieljames4022]

And skill!

[@LibbyAnn]

Thank God we still have heroes who run towards trouble!❤️🇺🇸❤️

[@amputeeright]

My brother, nephew, and all three of my sons are state troopers. The younger ones have never been in a situation like this, but my brother was. He was the one that ended the shooter's life, and it still haunts him.

[@keegansmetanko3755]

mall security in America has the authority of a toaster and are about as dangerous, they are mostly for show because all they can do is ask you to leave and call the police when you don't. Also I would definitely recommend more videos from donut, they are often covering tragedies but they also break the barrier between police and citizens and some are actually quite funny.

[@douglascampbell9809]

The only time this changes is when the mall hires off duty police who want to earn extra money. Though this doesn't happen all that often.

[@Peg__]

​@@douglascampbell9809 Ya, Mall of America has the Bloomington PD. They have their own little precinct within the mall. Sadly, having a PD in house, doesn't stop the deadly occourances. Many MN locals won't go to the MoA unless they have to; avoid the risk.

[@shawnanderson6313]

Never had any issues visiting MOA. Feel very safe. @@Peg__

[@Stepperg1]

That cop could not be stopped! Fearless! (Donut is my favorite ex-cop!)

[@juliayoung537]

My late husband was a firefighter and paramedic, I have respect for all police and other first responders who keep us safe 🫡❤

[@dawnprice6914]

My son is a Sheriff's Deputy and it scares me every time he leaves for work. I've learned that you have to pray that all the training they go through will help them through whatever situation they come across.

[@dianecomly6132]

Yes! God Bless the officers who lay it on the line. More please! Love your channel!!

[@booklover_gnosis]

Hats off to this man, a true officer. This is extremely difficult, In the army they train us to run with M16s and gear, in boots, weather doesn't matter but still that situation cannot touch a live scenario and he went in hard. I hope he is alright mentally. This also increases my disgust with those bad ones who ruin what "in blue" used to mean and still does for some.

[@gwenna1161]

he was a hero... and he ran for quite a ways to get there

[@kimberlycorliss9616]

Wow, that officer is awesome! Right from talking to the family at the beginning, recognizing shots fired, sprinting while telling people to get down and get out of there, and the very end. He probably saved a lot of people.

[@Seraphim4190]

I've seen this three times and still cry. Every time you hear a shot a person could be losing their life. I can only imagine what the officer was thinking about hearing it in person. He is a very brave man and I hope he is doing well.

[@dillodefense]

Body armor only protects so much. These events are not very common. The media makes it sound like we have far more. Mall security is rarely armed.

[@randalmayeux8880]

Hi Kabir! I remember this from about 3 months ago. Allen is a suburb of Dallas, it's a relatively affluent area. I've done custom furniture other woodwork there. Shootings and killings are quite common in Fort Worth, where I live. Usually, it's related to drug deals, gang wars, and domestic conflicts, though there are still plenty related to armed robbery. Most mall security is unarmed though they carry pepper spray. If something serious comes up they call the cops.

[@kimson305]

Shootings are common in America have you not been seeing the headlines? It's definitely not just Texas

[@murieljames4022]

@@kimson305He said quite common, quite means = often, frequently, a lot!

[@LA_HA]

​@@kimson305And the type of shootings there are that don't get the fancy tv coverage, but have been happening for a much longer time. Read his post again and guess what those shootings are

[@kennethmeeker6369]

You are your own first responder and cops have no obligation to protect and serve the public unless your arrested, uvalde Texas proved that but there’s enough case law and qualified immunity to protect the cop if he decides to not protect you.

[@lindamiller2432]

God bless our Law Enforcement! I've never seen this ' involved' video of that day. God bless the victims families and friends as well Linda NC

[@callsigndisciple626]

I love watching the Donut Operator reactions.

[@Whoozerdaddy]

Kabir, while it's true that American cops do have some level of protection from their vests, LEOs are killed all the time in the line of duty, from shots that fatally wound non-protected areas, as well as bullets that penetrate in an unprotected area and travel to a protected area, through the body.

[@gotham61]

Less than 25% of on duty police officer deaths in 2022 were from shootings.

[@mellycook]

Let’s not forget there are bullets that can go thru a vest. I’ve never understood why those where ever made.

[@DJWeapon8]

​@@mellycookthe same reason the spear was invented tens of thousands of years ago.

[@Whoozerdaddy]

@@mellycook It's not like they were made for the purposes of penetrating a vest. Lots of bullets can penetrate a vest. Depends on the threat level of the vest and the speed and caliber of the bullet. A bullet doesn't even have to penetrate a vest to be lethal, either.

[@VerchielxKanda]

Thank you for watching Donut Operator!! Hope you watch more of his videos. He does great breakdowns and calls the police out when they mess up. He was an officer himself, so he knows how things are supposed to go.

[@KWmsChildOfGod]

What a warrior! Oh I’m so thankful for him. God bless him!!!

[@coyotelong4349]

These bodycam videos of cops responding to mass shootings are the kind of thing everyone in America should see, and really let the terror sink in This shouldn’t be a normal thing

[@VadulTharys]

Yet no one will support funding mental health care facilities and no one will talk about the issues causing the mass shootings. All everyone wants to talk about is guns, the tool not the cause.

[@pattaccone]

Props to this officer !

[@xxdeviousv2]

I hope he's okay. That has to be one of the most difficult things to process.

[@michelleanderson8370]

I live in Canada and have never had an active shooter in my city thank God. Horrific that someone could be so messed up as to just open fire on crowds of people and shoot whole families including their children... It's just unfathomable to me. We have issues with immigrant drug gangs that shoot each other that is escalating to alarming numbers. VERY brave officer to run all that way knowing you could be shot any second

[@coyotelong4349]

It can happen in any country, but it happens WAY less in Canada than in the US. And that’s a great thing.

[@wonderweasle2212]

But you had people killed though

[@TKDragon75]

@@coyotelong4349 To be fair Canada DOES have WAY less people than the US.

[@murieljames4022]

@michelleanderson8370* Unfortunately that’s how it starts first, the gangs and then it spreads onto “other”.🇺🇸

[@TakersSoulGirl22]

It can happen anywhere. It just happens more in the US. I live in Canada and the last one we had was in small town Nova Scotia in 2020. 22 people died

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

Excellent verbalization of what you were witnessing. Well, done. God Bless.

[@Storyideas81]

I live Oklahoma which is directly north of Texas. Security guards have to go through extra training in order to carry a gun while on duty.

[@cliometrician]

On the day in question, my son-in-law was driving my grandson to work and as they drove by the Allen, TX mall they saw people running, cop cars racing in, and an armored car pulling in as well. They were safe, but scared to death. My grandson, who lives only one mile from that mall is in high school nearby. They used to hold tornado drills, but now they hold active shooter drills, just like many high schools in Texas. We are the only nation on earth with gun violence like this. And we do nothing about it except send our thoughts and prayers. And that's all we do.

[@MZ-bl6wg]

I have 2 siblings that are cops , one is a sharp shooter (sniper) for a SWAT team and as liberal American cities and states are trying to take rifles away from police officers , in these scenarios you WANT our officers armed!!!! Look at this absolute legend! A lot of our officers are military combat veterans as well so who better to be able to handle these scenario’s!! God bless these heroes!!!!

[@Weggorino]

8:18 only some malls have actual armed security at them. The only one I've ever seen was the Mall of America. Most have rent-a-cops who don't have any authority beyond telling people to leave. They don't carry weapons.

[@xxdeviousv2]

Two kids that lived in my old neighborhood were killed in this shooting. I didn't know them but it's sickening. What's more messed up is that it wasn't even surreal texting (not calling because you dont want phones ringing if people are hiding) family and friends to check on them that day because it was somewhat expected to happen sooner or later.

[@kevin982]

They happen weekly dude. There has been as many shooting as there have been days.

[@Peg__]

At the current rate, 2-3 mass shootings a day.

[@tahoe_1353]

This is why I carry my firearm everywhere, every day. Springfield XD40 Sub Compact. Not that it would do much against a rifle, but it's better than nothing.

[@elliotthunter4061]

Kabir, a lot of outlet malls don't have security, as instead of being multiple stores inside one large building, they are considered individual stores that are street facing. Also, security in malls almost never have firearms. In fact, most malls are soft targets, where customers are not allowed to carry their firearms on mall property, even in states that have constitutional carry. This is because the property owner usually has a policy against it. The most I have seen mall security have is a taser or pepper spray, but the security company does not want the potential liability of any of their officers carrying weapons, as they could get sued for wrongful death for their officer shooting someone.

[@jaycooper2812]

Not all shopping centers in America have armed security. The level security is determined by what the mall's insurance company will allow. In a lot of cases having the security guard armed only results in the guard being the one shot first and usually from behind.

[@b2chex]

Donut does great breakdowns. That officer is amazing.

[@RandyStoker1964]

IMO mass shootings in the United States started becoming very well known with the postal shootings, and began to rise more rapidly after the Columbine high school shooting. I know the amount of mass shootings in the United States seems high in comparison to other countries, but we also have to remember the United States is a humongous country. You could fit multiple other countries into the U.S.. It is incredibly sad that we have to talk about this at all because it shouldn’t happen in any country on Earth. 🌎🌏 Unfortunately, there are bad people everywhere! It’s heartbreaking!! 💔❤️‍🩹

[@lindasmith1370]

I live in Allen Texas a few miles from the shooting. The officer wasn’t dressed for battle. In fact, he was talking to some young people when he heard the shots.

[@kimson305]

This is too common here in the States. We can't even keep up with the mass shootings anymore. Everytime a mass shooting is brought up people say "which one".

[@SynarG]

I believe it's justice for what you Americas did to my brothers and sisters in Afghanistan

[@MisterRaro]

​@@SynarGIt's okay. You only believe that because you're stupid. 😊

[@xviper2k]

@@SynarG Your "brothers and sisters" (terrorists by any chance?) should've handed over Osama when given the chance. Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes.

[@dwh58]

450 mass shootings in the USA this year and it`s not over, Kabir.

[@dwh58]

update: 470 mass shootings, must have been going on week old stats, sorry.

[@pdog547]

This officer is one kick ass problem solver. Donut Operator rocks!

[@kellyoehlschlager6985]

Unfortunately, no longer a rare occurrence. We have had about 470 mass shootings in 2023 alone.

[@Boodieman72]

When you are firing a gun it's incredibly loud even with hearing protection it must be deafening without it.

[@kerrimcclain3648]

Allen, TX has an outdoor outlet mall that usually just has patrolling security.

[@dakin7612]

BTW, cops don't wear bulletproof vests most of the time, only if they know they are likely to be under fire.

[@kellyoehlschlager6985]

In the DC area they do. I even see them wearing them when they are just sitting in Starbucks enjoying lunch.

[@debsnyder8437]

There has been more than 470 mass shootings in the U.S. this year according to the Gun Violence Archive. A mass shooting is defined as 4 or more people injured or killed. Most of our public schools here have regular “active shooter” drills. They are pretty traumatizing for little kids. It’s all very sad.

[@hanng1242]

What counts as a mass shooting depends on how one does the calculation. The Gun Violence Archive includes *any* incident where there are four or more people *injured or killed* by GSW, not including the shooter. According to the Gun Violence Archive, there were 419 mass shootings in 2019. However, according to Mother Jones, there were 10 that year. This is because Mother Jones only included incidents in a *public* setting where three or more people were *killed* (not including the shooter) *and* the shooter's motivation was "indiscriminate," that is, not related to robbery, gang violence or domestic violence. Using the a similar criteria criteria (the difference is 4 deaths rather than 3 were required for inclusion), the Mass Shooter Database found 6 mass shootings that year. Stanford University used to have its own database, and according to them, in the last year in which they were around (2015), there were 62 mass shootings, defined as 3 or more people killed or wounded, in any setting, not related to gangs, drugs or organized crime. Thus, the numbers can be very different depending on what one is looking for. It seems to me that when people talk about "mass shootings," they mean the sort of stuff like that seen in the video here - indiscriminate shooting of people in a situation where people are just going about their day. However, if one has an anti-gun agenda, they use numbers generated by criteria such as that used by the Gun Violence Archive to make it seem like there is "an epidemic" of random gun violence. These numbers get trotted out after something like what happened recently in Nashville, thus implying that there are over 400 Nashville-type shootings each year - a lie by omission. If we take away the crime-related shootings we have only 1/7th as many as insinuated. Note also that "Nashville-type" shootings calls to mind school shootings which makes the number smaller still. At the same time, calling something a "school shooting" also requires clarification. Do we mean any shooting that happens at the school? Do we mean only mass shootings at a school? Does it include a shooting of and by gang members who all go to that school? Does it include shootings that occur on school property but have nothing to do with the students or faculty there? Do we include universities in the category of school? I get the impression that when people talk about "school shootings" they mean stuff like what happened at Columbine, or Sandy Hook, or Nashville (and not something like Virginia Tech) - someone goes to a K-12 school and indiscriminately starts shooting students, teachers and anyone else that have the misfortune of bring there. That doesn't mean that there is no problem or that killings that are unlike what happened in this video are unimportant, but rather that there are several *different* problems that do not have the same solution, unless the goal is not to reduce or stop shootings as such, but rather to eliminate private gun ownership. As for traumatizing children, is it possible that it is the active shooter drills themselves that is causing the trauma? While it is always good to be prepared, the real likelihood of a school shooting is rather low - at least in the suburbs or small cities. Indeed, it is the incongruity and rarity of a shooting happening in a safe area that makes it news; a "drug deal gone wrong" (as though something has not already gone wrong if a drug deal is occurring in the first place) mass shooting in inner city Baltimore doesn't make national news because, well, that is just the sort of thing we expect would happen there. Depending on what "regular" (in regular active shooter drills) means, perhaps it is the schools themselves which are traumatizing their students by giving them the impression that they are significantly more likely to be put in an active shooter situation than is supported by actual data. It seems to me to be similar to how a generation of Americans were terrified of nuclear war during the Cold War whereas in reality, except for the one time we got to DEFCON2 (Cuban Missile Crisis), there was actually very little risk of it occurring. Why? I submit that it was due to all of the duck-and-cover drills these kids had to do that made them think, incorrectly, that nuclear annihilation was imminent.

[@debsnyder8437]

@@hanng1242 The U.S. has more guns than people. Last time I checked there were more than 18 million A.R. 15’s out in the general public. That doesn’t bother you but it bothers me. I do worry for all my grandchildren. I come from a hunting family so I grew up around guns, but our gun culture has morphed into insanity. We’ve had mass shootings in malls, movie theaters, schools, colleges, grocery stores, office buildings, post offices, concerts, and many other work places. By the way I think your 1/7 number is still outrageous. You can spin it all you want but I’ll listen to the parents of Sandy Hook who are trying to get common sense gun laws passed any day over your opinion of the statistics and what is an acceptable amount of children violently blown away in our schools. I hate ALL the gun violence and yes it makes me sad for my young grandchildren.

[@xxdeviousv2]

A man running from police got inside my daughter's high school even though they had warning. Drills are awful for the kids and actual incidents traumatize the entire family. Getting a text "Mom, Idk what's going on and I'm scared" was horrifying.

[@ViolentKisses87]

Pretty sure the US defines mass shooting as 3 or more people injured

[@ViolentKisses87]

470 sounds massive, and it is however it can be misleading because the vast majority are "gang on gang" violence, and the general public is somewhat shielded from it.

[@DanielDeLeon69]

Dang I Saw It Live & I was Shocked!!!

[@cliometrician]

That mall was not one that you walk through. It consists of just scores of stores side by side, with no way to access an adjacent store until you leave you exit the store, walk a short distance down the sidewalk, then enter another store. My wife and I have shopped there many times.

[@lonnyscott6231]

There's a case where a couple of people in Southland, Texas. Where a man opened fired in a church.

[@reneerollins4433]

I love donut operator! Glad you found him!

[@BillieBrown-f2p]

To date, there have been more than 470 mass shootings this year. Gun control is a controversial hot topic for politicians.

[@robertbrunner4379]

Only issue is laws only affect those who follow them and the definition of a criminal is someone who's breaking those laws

[@johnwray393]

Most being gang related and not random shooting like this. That doesn't make things any better but I think it's a important distinction for people to understand. Either way, even one of these types of shooting should be considered unacceptable.

[@xviper2k]

@@robertbrunner4379 It's much easier to become a criminal when a country's laws legally (and easily) provide one with the means to commit heinous crimes.

[@ninabooker2904]

Donut Operator is an awesome channel. Thanks for sharing, Kabir. 😊

[@timhuffmaster3588]

Mind you, this is as of 1 August 2023. As of Aug. 1, at least 25,198 people have died from gun violence in the U.S. this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive - which is an average of roughly 118 deaths each day.

[@infin8ee]

Yay, donut operator is a great channel for police content. Sad that there's always content for him to report on. This officer is fabulous to be speaking to small children one minute to running towards gunshots the next . So much respect for anyone who dedicated their careers to helping their community ,first responders nurses, military etc.

[@tomfox9083]

More of these please ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@johnkacin1500]

To answer your question. Most stores have loss prevention officers and a very few have armed security. The few that do have them ,they are there as a visual deterrent and due to liability issues are not allowed to use their weapons. I remember when armed security guards at banks used to be a thing.. and i used to be a little freaked out.. My dad told me one time that their not allowed to do anything. So armed security is a thing but it comes with a lot of caveats and stipulations.

[@bethking7348]

Wow!! Bravo! ❤❤❤

[@kdcbattlecreek]

The officer will relive that his whole life.

[@poptya]

8:15 Generally no, most security are unarmed

[@staceybert1975]

They happen more than you think here in America. Sad but true.

[@jessicazanoli4187]

Yupp sadly it feels like a daily occurrence anymore. Its heart breaking.

[@jonathananderson6057]

Actually true mass shootings are rare most of the "mass shootings" are random gang drive byes or gang on gang shootings

[@jessicazanoli4187]

@@jonathananderson6057do you know how many mass shootings have happened just this year? 470 as of 5 days ago. And that's just mass shootings that's not even all of the individual shootings that happen on pretty much a daily basis which usually involve 1-3 victims which is why they aren't considered mass shootings.

[@jonathananderson6057]

@jessicazanoli4187 sorry but that 470 is a false flag number they include gang wars and other gang related shootings that in my opinion they shouldn't

[@gotham61]

@@jonathananderson6057 Not true. Most are domestic violence.

[@leeneufeld4140]

There have been 479 mass shootings in the United States so far in 2023. It should be noted that many did not result in deaths. Still a horrendous number.

[@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd]

in US a mass shooting is defined as four or more people getting shot this now happens at least once a week⚛

[@pwizandtheween3652]

Where was this guy at Uvalde?

[@WhodatLucy]

No most mall security are not armed but some stores hire separate armed police off duty like jewelry stores..

[@lnytita6763]

Aloha!! Yeah... you're watching Donut Operator! 🤙🤙 Gotta watch some "nom nom bork bork" 🐕😃

[@alisummers7984]

Kabir, sadly this happens enough to the point that I lose track of them all.. This video had my heart pumping.. am I the only one who feels like it took forever for backup to arrive?? Maybe it just felt that way .. prayers for all the victims and that heroic officer.. horrible scene for anyone to live thru.

[@Kenyon712]

Literally saw most of the victims get shot on a video online. He jumped out of his car and started shooting. The unfortunate people walking past at the time were most of the victims.

[@renaetieman6581]

WOOT! React to more Donut Operator! Love to see your takes on his videos.

[@nwj03a]

Guns are an enormous problem in the USA, one which many are unwilling to address honestly. Only first world country that has this problem, but we pretend it has nothing to do with guns (some of us). Man did an excellent job, unfortunately… that’s not supposed to be normal for cops. That should be a one in a billion situation.

[@CassieMichael]

This is like something out of a movie. The cop starts out talking to some kids about basic safety stuff and then outta nowhere, gunshots. The kids are ushered away and he goes into action. P.S. Also, in terms of mall security, they deal with stuff like rowdy teenagers, shoplifters, or even brawls, not mass shooters going mad. They aren't equipped or trained for that sort of thing. They only have a can of pepper spray, and a handgun. That's not enough to take that kind of villain down.

[@user-ii3vn8tn3q]

Adrenaline. That has to be really intense to come down from for that officer. Omg.

[@virginiarobbins7539]

Knife goes thru vest as does hollow point ammo.. sides under arms if your shot it will kill you. They definitely aren't a full on safty shield

[@NurseEmilie]

I just watched your video of Lawrence speaking of what phrases originated from the UK and the US. I wantaed to add something. The phrase 'okie dokie' comes from early 19th-century intellectual and literary societies in the American Northeast. They intentionally misspelled 'all correct' as 'Oll Korrect. ' The phrase then came 'OK,' and finally, 'Okie Dokie. I never hear anyone in North Carolina say "Okie Dokie" but I heard that sometimes as a child.

[@rawgaentertainment]

It happens everyday. All of them just aren't covered on the news

[@davew8694]

Donut operator is the man!

[@poptya]

Hell ya! Donut!

[@piercesamwcula]

Sadly most security in malls or stores in general are not armed. They serve more as a liability policy for the owners

[@virginiarobbins7539]

This is a shopping plaza so they don't have any armed security.. maybe a jewelry store located in one of the shops, the owner may carry

[@3amdion860]

Hey Kabir thanks for the Police Reactions I seen in the live earlier you might not be getting monetization from these vids. So pls if you don't wanna post them it's ok my g aslong as your happy with what you post ❤

[@ninabooker2904]

The PTSD must be so enormous for the cops, seeing innocent civilians gunned down and having to kill a shooter. This is war shit, not civilian life, should NOT happen. God bless all the brave cops, praying for everyone shot and their families.

[@dakin7612]

Unfortunately these happen all too often. Most aren't even covered by national news anymore because there are so many.

[@austinverlinden2236]

Most security dont carry firearms. At most cuffs and maybe pepper spray. Generally, Security can do so much before they need police to take over.

[@ashleighparish2233]

I'm a police dispatcher for a school district in Texas. When Uvalde happened, I can't tell you how many of us, officers very included, in the department were sickened. Our Chief sent out an email to everyone, reminding the department that we took a vow to serve and protect. But above all that, we vowed for our children. He also stated, if there was a situation like Uvalde, and all the exits are locked. Screw our vehicles, slam through the doors and get those kids out, and eliminate the threat. The number one thing that majorly put a rotten taste in my mouth were the officers unwillingness to go in. And their Chief stating, and I quote. "I was not aware I was the commanding officer at the time." YOU are the commanding officer over the Sergeants, Lieutenants, and your Captains! You are absolutely disgusting for having innocent people, especially children, get killed for something you vowed to do! Those parents and Bystanders showed their humanity 1000x more that day than your men and women who are 'highly' trained!

[@Flooding474]

These outdoor malls do typically have security but these guys often times don't even have guns. If they do have guns it's usually a small handgun.

[@BY-lp9tj]

He said "we measure in football fields"... ha! I'm not as American as I think I guess.

[@DTG_LOCKETT]

Ain't even watch the video but off the title. HOO-RAH!!!

[@nathankalkbrenner8039]

Did you see how long it took the cop who was ALREADY THERE to get to the sh00ter? That's why millions of Americans, myself included, carry guns.

[@gabrielcrim8598]

We need to get you a range day bro, can we get Kabir to Texas??

[@amarijohnson]

Some mall security are armed and some aren’t well at least where I live.

[@MarcoGarcia-bj2kt]

The average armed security pay is $16hr, with a pistol vs rifle, the pistol ment to be a detergent. Not worth the pay, and most places dont have armed security regarding malls

[@RowdyRuth]

I heard screaming for help around the corner from my house so I started running towards it. My neighbors were astounded that I ran towards it,. A middle-age woman was beating her elderly father. I don’t know how people don’t help maybe because I was trained in the military?

[@ThinBlueLine_8948]

Reacting to a donut operator video is wild

[@MegaRxgirl]

Unfortunately these shooting’s happen daily

[@shadow1674]

I was a security officer at a mall no we do not have firearms we are unarmed guards

[@virginiarobbins7539]

Something ppl don't understand is that if there were any carry concealed ppl they most likely would have taken him out quickly to protect others. So this is the other side of the coin.. you'll never get rid of weapons here so the good citizens also need them cause you never know when or where you can become a bystander .

[@Tbone1492]

These happen every day in the inner city's. It just doesn't make the headlines if it's not in the right neighborhood!

[@coolbreeze4066]

Welcome to Texas

[@Rogue_Centurion]

We do measure everything in football fields

[@bonniemcconnell6500]

Where the hell is his backup??. In NYC, we would have had backup within 2 minutes.

[@JonHubbard-lo4oz]

Sadly this is why I carry because you never know when someone is going to flip out.

[@MannyBrum]

We have between a half dozen and a dozen mass shootings a year based on the current FBI definition of mass shooting which is a single attack with a firearm in a public place with three or more fatalities. In 2020 there were only 2 because of the quarantine. There were 12 last year, and this year there have been 8 so far, so we average about one a month. You'll see some sources say there are hundreds of mass shootings a year in the US but they're going by a different definition (usually from local PD) that includes multiple people getting shot anywhere not necessarily in a public place, and it counts non-fatal shootings. It's hard to compare with other countries because every country has a different definition of a mass shooting. Also mall security doesn't carry firearms (they're not supposed to, though some of them are people who no PD would hire and they pretend to be cops so they do) but they're mostly making low wages and are only supposed to call the police not actively stop a shooter. There are a few malls that have cops on duty in them, particularly big ones.

[@xviper2k]

Pretty easy to compare mass shooting to other countries when theirs are usually in the single digits and ours in the triples. Also, it doesn't matter if people died or where they were shot, a shooting is a shooting is a shooting.

[@VelkanAngels]

Mall/store security in some countries are much more like school hall monitors than police officers :l