Brit Reacts to Findians | FINNISH AMERICAN INDIANS

[@leopartanen8752]

The first Finnish immigrants in America moved to the region of present-day Delaware in the 17th century. The local Indians started calling them "sweat lodge people" or "white-men-who-are-the-same-as-us" because the Finns went to the sauna. Because of this, the Finns got along well with the Indians, and during the first American Indian Wars, the Finns' homes were not destroyed.

[@tonikaihola5408]

Haha that’s amazing. Sauna FTW 😅

[@santtumoilanen3065]

i remeber seeing news article from early 1900's when lots of finnish immirants went to US they called em like orcs or something...

[@kaljaukko5439]

Getting aware of a Dellaware!!

[@MindTrippin-SinceBirth]

I am Swedish and when i grew up i hated the finns, it was automatic but when i grew up and met them, probaböy the peopel i repesct the most, ive been lucky to travel alot 46 countries o far

[@tonikaihola5408]

@@MindTrippin-SinceBirth Finnjävlar am I right? 😅🤟

[@janus1958]

My grandparents all immigrated( separately) from Finland from 1883-1906, and ended up in Northern Minnesota( though my paternal grandparents initially settled in North Dakota, and my maternal Grandmother spent her first couple of years in Boston). I was born in the Mesabi Range, and lived there until the age of 11. It does not really surprise me that Finns and Native Americans gravitated towards each other, as they had so much in common.

[@alha7040]

and their relationship was good also because both respected and took turns teaching the other. The native population of America taught a better hunting style and other things, and the Finns taught how to build houses and other things. in it, both shared their own knowledge with the other and were respected on both sides. there are also a few times when the native American population attacked the Europeans by setting houses on fire, but they knew where the Finns lived and they left their houses alone. History is so interesting!

[@Ryuuoo_]

There was once place called 'Finntown' in Brooklyn, NYC, at its height it was home to some 20,000 Finns.

[@ThatFindianCouple.]

We are a native-Finnish couple. If anyone is interested, we have a brand new channel as well and can for sure answer some of your questions too.

[@OlaviTuikka3247]

My second great grandmother often traveled to the United States to meet with Native American Indians. She learned a lot of medical knowledge from them. Later, she worked as a public healer in Finland.

[@eastfinn]

Indians and Finnish sami people have same kind of houses, the Indians have "tiipii" and the sami people have "Lapin kota". The vocals and music also sound the same

[@mikakyllonen4872]

Nice to know. First Swedes and Finns traveled to America on a sailing ship in 1638 or 1640 and one of the so called founding fathers was Finnish descent John Morton whos great-grandfather Martti Marttinen was a Finn with roots in Rautalampi, Finland. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morton_(American_politician)

[@pewcaro3237]

Actually some celebrities have finnish heritage, such as Abraham Lincoln, Clint Eastwood, Pamela Anderson, Matt Damon. And some more notorious people like Aileen Wuornos.

[@ArchieArpeggio]

Dave Mustaines mother were originaly from Finland. Emily Mustaine changed her name as she were young. Her real name were Emilia Mustonen. No wonder Dave is one of the Gods of metal music 😁.

[@ExecutiveSonda]

Don't forget that one of the founding fathers, John Morton, has Finnish roots.

[@sjc9121]

The Finnish author, Katja Kettu, has written the book "Fintiaanien mailla" (~ On Findian's lands) on this subject. I have that book on my shelf. Finns' and Indians' perception of nature is very similar. We have a lot more in common in our way of thinking, social relations and other things - like sauna. Naturally.

[@leopartanen8752]

"The prominent role of Finnish immigrants in the 1907 and 1916 Mesabi Range strikes in Minnesota led to blacklisting of Finns. It was a time of anti-Finnish sentiment in the area, and one could see signs "No Indians or Finns allowed."" "The term jackpine savage was used in northern Minnesota during the early 1900s, referring to the term Indian savage used for Native Americans. Finnish businesses were also harassed with the pretext that they were illegally dealing liquor to Native Americans."

[@TPacoustic]

There were so many finns moving to America back in the day, that even Titanic had her restaurant menus in finnish. Something like 80 finns drowned there.

[@ThatFindianCouple.]

This is false.

[@jonttujtel]

43 finns drowned and there is no proof that it had menus in finnish

[@SK-nw4ig]

As a finn i knew this, my kids are actually related to Lyz. Lyz has visited Finland and found her finnish family too :)

[@kilipaki87oritahiti]

Proto Finns migrated from Siberia Asia to Finland Scandinavia during the Last Ice Age, they brought pale skin and blonde hair, as the highest concetration of blondes in Europe today is found in Finland. The 1st Europeans who had migrated from the Middle East was dark with blue eyes, as the general European today are dark, and the Middle East is the craddle of all white people, and the 1st civilizations. Proto Finns was distant related to all 1st nation/indiegnous people of America. But they later intermixeed with the Yamnaya, Anatolian farmers from Turkey, and lastly the Germanic farmers aka Vikings, and turned into what the modern Finns as well as Estonians are today. Their cousins the indigenous Sami has retained their ancient culture, and to some extension the lifestyle.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

Again, the Finns do us Nordics proud. Peace and love Hygge and sisu to y'all

[@Logoht]

Never knew we had Findians, however I don't find it a surprise, between the respect for nature, similar culture in general and respect for both people and nature in general it's not a surprise at all.

[@sampohonkala4195]

Roughly 150 000 Finns immigrated to the USA in the late 1800's and early 1900's. This is a lot - the population of Finland was 3 million, so this is 5% of the entire population; even over 10% in some municipalities. There is one slight mistake in the video - no part of Finland was ceded to Russia after 1809, when Finland became an autonomous grand duchy. Quite the contrary, in 1812 part of what had been Finland earlier and lost in previous wars was returned to the grand duchy of Finland. Finns only lost their homes when land was ceded to the USSR after the Winter war of 1939-40. At that time the immigration to the US was more or less over as Finland was independent and the living conditions were improving fast. To confuse this a bit more, the majority of the Finnish immigrants were Swedish speakers from the Swedish speaking areas along the Finnish coast.

[@henkkahenrik4183]

Also during the late 1800s/early 1900s U.S, Finns were denied American citizenships and not given certain jobs under the Asian exclusion act, because they were too "Mongolian", despite us being some of the whitest motherfuckers on this planet. They used our different language and culture and some of our facial features to classify us as asian. Many Finns actually pretended to be swedish to avoid discrimination. That's why Finns were often called "China swedes" and why there are still some jokes and stereotypes about Finns being "mongols" in the U.S.

[@jvalfin3359]

My father actually has 1% Native American ancestry, which would mean I have it too. I have no clue how that's possible, but that's what the ancestry scientists say about our lineage. Weird. We live in Finland, so that raises some interesting questions.

[@turpasauna]

Love and gratitude to the noble Natives for protecting my ancestors. ❤ I thank you.

[@statostheman]

My late auntie, told an folklore from Karelia Isthmus. I can be wrong, but there was a lot so called shamans and fortune tellers came from. Do not get upset what I'm telling about this story, because this is how it was told back then: During the Ice age, there was two tribes. One had a darker skin, the other had a lighter skin. Both tribes lived in peace. Due of the shortages of food, both tribes decided to travel up north. For better hunting grounds. Then one day, both tribes started arguing with each other. The tribe with a darker skin left and decided to travel over the sea and landed the shores which became north of America. They became the Native Americans. The lighter skin stayed put and they became the Sami people. There is an documentary here in YT, called as "The Waterfowl People". I can a lot of smilares between Native American people and the Finno-uric people. Also, look up here in YT: "Origin of the Finns, Hungarians and other Uralians".

[@sinklair]

Minnesota? More like Finnesota!

[@Vloekki]

I have many distant cousins ​​who are Findians. ❤😊

[@mikkohapponen5728]

Seen few documentaries from tv. After first it came clear to my head, ofcourse they get along. Like very distant relatives with same mentality

[@annukkakiviranta4356]

Love from Finland❤

[@dr.donroccolahti7312]

I grew up in this area discussed in a small town called Cloquet, Minnesota and yes, my family were referred to as "Finndians." Since my Finnish roots were from northern Finland, we have more Asian blood and many of our people resemble native Americans to the point that they were indestinguishable from the Indigenous Native people. I have not heard the term "Finndian" in a very long while since I have resided in Asia for several decades now. Cheers

[@henkkahenrik4183]

Honestly considering Finns as in any way asian is such a weirdly American thing. I think it mostly started from the discrimination Finns faced during the Asian exclusion act, when certain "scientists" branded Finns as asian because of our language, culture, and certain facial features such as smaller eyes and higher cheekbones, and Finns were denied jobs and citizenships because of it. In actuality, Finns or Finnish people are a Baltic Finnic ethnic group native to Finland. So basically we're a group of our own.

[@rainersalejarvi5762]

@@henkkahenrik4183 ”Honestly considering Finns as in any way asian is such a weirdly American thing” ????? In general, modern Europeans derive their ancestry from three populations: Paleolithic European hunter-gatherers, early Neolithic farmers, and steppe-origin groups who arrived in Europe during the end of the Neolithic and start of the Bronze Age. However, researchers from the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History and the University of Helsinki noted that this model does not fit well for northeastern European populations, including Finns and Saami. These populations, they wrote, share more alleles with modern East Asian populations than with other European groups. "Our results show that there was a strong genetic connection between ancient Finnish and ancient Siberian populations, suggesting that ancient populations from Siberia may have also shared a subsistence strategy, languages, and/or cultural behaviors with Bronze Age and Iron Age Finns, despite the large geographical distance," co-first author Thiseas Lamnidis from Max Planck said in a statement. Siberia is in Asia, isn’t it ?

[@Kahdeksanpenninen123]

​@@rainersalejarvi5762 There is like 1 % similar DNA with an Siberian person: it is really wierd to claim Finns are Asian. I know Swedes tried to prove that as well in the beginging of 1900.

[@rainersalejarvi5762]

@@Kahdeksanpenninen123 With regard to the Y-chromosome, the most common haplogroups of the Finns are N1c (58-60.4%), I1a (26.2-28%), R1a (5-6%), and R1b (3.5-4.9%).N1c, which is found mainly in a few countries in Europe (Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, and Russia), is a subgroup of the haplogroup N distributed across northern Eurasia and suggested to have entered Europe from Siberia. While their genome is still mostly European, they also have some additional East Eurasian ancestry (varies from 5 up to 13 % in Finns). This component is most likely Siberian-related, best represented by the north Siberian Nganasans. The specific Siberian-like ancestry is suggested to have arrived in Northern Europe during the early Iron Age, linked to the arrival of Uralic languages.

[@Kahdeksanpenninen123]

@@rainersalejarvi5762 Sorry, I forgot that men are. Women's dna came through Sweden fron Middle- Europe.

[@hannuvoimanen4191]

Sinun kannattaa tutustua suomalaiseen rock yhtyeeseen Finnish symphonic metal band, Nightwish Laulajaan Tarja Turunen. Niillä oli 2000 luvun alussa iso tapahtuma missä oli myös intiaani musiikkia yhdistettynä.

[@oh2mp]

I have seen that video years ago and I found it very interesting along some other documents I've seen about Findians. I'm very interested in history, genealogy etc. so I would love to meet those people some day. I would have a lot of questions.

[@BaloneySandwichWithKetchup]

Many of those "Swedish people" who first immigrated to the USA were actually of Finnish heritage (Finland was a part of Sweden for a long time), the Swedish first sent ethnic Finns to migrate to what would later become New Sweden as sort of a expeditionary group to see if settlement was possible. We got along famously with the local indigenous people. We first settled along the north shore of the Delaware river. One of the founding fathers of America was a Finnish man named John Morton.

[@haikeaintiaani9183]

Still finnish but my granpha was origanal laplander and i got those indian eskimo style eyes they and indians definetly got something similiar

[@PaJR]

There are approximately 600,000 descendants of Finns in the USA and 130,000 in Canada. It is not surprising if some of them have also married American Indians.

[@gfhsxdf5769]

It ”began” way before than 1800’s. When New Sweden was found most of the settlers were Finns because crown forced them to leave sweden, mostly forset finns in todays swedens area and some peasants from todays mainland Finland. Yet they forced the Finns, something like 5th class citicens to settle in the forests in their log cabins. So the ”indians” befriended Finns and even had a word for them something like ”whites that are like us” and didnt raid Finnish settlements during their attacks on new sweden

[@DR_REDACTED]

This is complete news to me (a finn)

[@ShortRound27]

There are stories about other immigrant groups saying that the Finns were weird because they seemed to "vanish into the forest like indians".

[@ArchieArpeggio]

I found out of this thing propably about last winter and i am native finnish living in Finland. I am not religious but kind of spiritual indeed. So i´ve been saying for a long time that i don´t feel religius at any way. I feel more like "American indians" as the spirits and the way i respect the nature. When i saw this video i were like "Wow! I can see myself in there!". I´ve seen some longer document as well and there were some native tribes (i don´t remember the tribes) but they were talking finnish imigrants as a white people that are like us.

[@Kahdeksanpenninen123]

Yes, I knew (know). Swedish were trying to prove Finns are mongolian, not a European race. There is a court case in the USA where the case were if Finns are a white race or not ( = are they given an American citicenship which was granted only to whites).

[@Pataassa]

As a finn, I know that many of my relatives has left in usa about the end of 1800 but i know nothing more of them. I know only those who stayed here in Finland. But I can see in myheritage that I still have relatives in usa. A lot. So maybe they are findians. 😅 I can't really blame those ones who left. They were looking for better life at the time, when finland were under the russian rule. Peoples who lived then, had already a really big traumas for everythink that finnis people had been through. React for "the greath wrath" subject if you want to understand our history better.

[@mhh7544]

13 th senator who wrote the declaration of independance of US , was a Finn .

[@jonathanschadenfreude9603]

How many times does ignorance look at someone and think they understand that persons lineage? Not only finns....lithuanians and baltic state people found these environments quite appealing!

[@penaarja]

This was New to me, even Finnish. How did You get hooked To nordic countries?

[@stiglarsson8405]

Yea the more you learn the more one know how little one realy know! Its like in US in old days, to become a citicen one have to be "White", "Afro-american" or "Native american"! Soo as US now and then is all about race, for good and bad reasons.. in the begining mostly for bad reasons, today to a big extent to kinda compensate for old prejudicate??? In anyway, one did "scientific studies?" and did find that Finns was not only asians, but altso more prone to unionanise and be comunists! IE they wasnt granted the same rights and become "China-Swedes", probably becuse many of them come frome Sweden! And then to sweden, finland was part of sweden frome late viking age to 1809, when Russia took Finland as a bouty! It was still this that a big chunk of northen sweden was a finn and sami territory.. easy to fix, swedenize that territory, force everyone to swedish schools and swedish church! And force them to speak Swedish, and pledge allegiance to the swedish flag!

[@j3mixa]

That race thing sounds so ridiculous to me because their defenition of race was more political than biological. They just decided that Finns were not white because our language wasn't Latin or Greek based like most other Europian languages. What amuses me the most is that they totally ignored that in fact Finns were "whiter" than anyone else. Even today there are more blond, blue eyed people among ethnic Finns than in any other group of people in the whole world 😄.

[@nappendal77]

Much the same as nature and respect for animals and not so easily approached it takes a long time to say i love you, it`s an American saying that is used every day without meaning UGH.

[@MindTrippin-SinceBirth]

Its called Sami, dude, pls some homework

[@ristovirtanen6396]

As Finland was part of Sweden until 1809 Finns were assumed to be Swedes in early American immigrant history. Also then they were known to treat native Americans as equals and not savages like the conquistadors did. 🤔👌

[@kontsikka]

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