Its funny you still get some geezers who swear 58 pat was better but I think there is a lot of rose tinted glasses going on and no substance. All the British squaddies Ive heard from thought the improvement was night and day!
@stealth75455 ай бұрын
great kit considering most modern kit options are not split rigs, and the ones that are want you to sell a kidney to buy one without the pouches to fill it out lol, some tips, i use tie straps on the pull tabs for the pouches about 1/2in up from the triangle pieces to keep the tabs from sticking out, i use the external pouch tiedown points for stuff like my mosquito net carry sack and my multitool, i run the GP pouch on my right front instead of the 2nd mag pouch, and i dont have a 5th back pouch
@armyand_Outdoors5 ай бұрын
something I do with my own kit as well, remove excess strapping by taping up. For load all depends on what your using it for and what with - wearing standalone, with a flak vest or under a plate carrier or even how skinny (or not) you are!
@SimonRiley18 ай бұрын
Nice vid, the British came out with all good gear that is still usable to this day. Also, did you know if i could use the plce side pouches from the bergen onto the plce webbing, and my side pouches didn't come with stitched on buckles to clip on...?
@armyand_Outdoors8 ай бұрын
Cheers mate! Not really - at least not plug and play style. You can jimmy up tying the straps through the webbing loops up at the top and tying to the belt at the bottom, or otherwise modifying them. But to be honest, its probably a better option to wear the side pouch yoke over the top of your webbing so you can remove and access at any moment. Most guys opt to use the patrol pack over these traditionally I believe.
@milestrueman43528 ай бұрын
@@armyand_Outdoors in the official plce instructions there are official steps for attaching the side pouches to the main yoke, it’s available if you Google it 👍
@jorgebuzzi940Ай бұрын
In the 70's the British also tried to introduce nylon in their webbing (as the North Americans did with ALICE), it was pattern 72, which did not work and they continued with the canvas of pattern 58.
@WisSota_Boy7 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are reading a Wikipedia script! 😆 as an American I do like the PLCE style belt kit in combination with a chest rig.
@armyand_Outdoors7 ай бұрын
just bumbling my words on camera hahaha. Ill get there eventually in time I hope 😅🤣 definitely, much better than a Y harness. Seals off mags nicely from debris which a lot of 'high speed' pouches don't do these days. Can have a chestrig to maintain those if one wanted to in combination.
@WeaponizedAutismiii21 күн бұрын
Because I'm an odd ball with my gear I combined lbv88 and used the Alice loops on a PLCE belt and I'm just loving all the capacity I've got to go full retard with potential equipment load.
@flatmoon63597 ай бұрын
Particularly liked !!??,hated by everyone. One size fitted no-one, soaked water up like a sponge and weighed half as much again when wet. Large pack was just a shapeless sack that clipped on . If you wanted to take pack off the whole thing had to come off. Just a mess.
@armyand_Outdoors7 ай бұрын
Talking about those who transitioned from 58 patt to PLCE. World of difference but if you came in after and thats all you had experience with first, no doubt a lot less fond in the suck im sure
@cxsey85873 ай бұрын
Can you attach Molle pouches to it?
@armyand_Outdoors3 ай бұрын
not properly, no. The MTP version that replaced it basically just changed to MOLLE attachment for the most part.
@cxsey85873 ай бұрын
@@armyand_Outdoors ahh gotcha, thanks for clearing that up !
@BosvarkDelra8 ай бұрын
Lol Our 82 battle jacket chest rig etc issued to us in the SADF all those years ago is still better In fact the SBS and SAS use the battle jacket