British High School Explained!

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[@trippyerinsd]

Ohhhh, so that’s why Harry Potter got his letter to Hogwart’s at age 11. He was ready for big school. Never knew the association. 👍

[@prepperpatty199]

What are a levels and o levels?

[@QUARTERMASTEREMI6]

@@prepperpatty199 The best way to explain it is like P-SATs, SATs, ACTs, to get into college or university (though P-SATs are for those going into high school and if you want to attend a private school). In layman's terms, it's an entrance exam.

[@onlyme1028]

@@prepperpatty199 Ordinary levels are the equivalent to modern day GCSEs (introduced in 1986). Taken when you finish secondary school. Advanced levels are when you finish college (two years further study after secondary school).

[@gracieliz95]

@@onlyme1028 So O levels are your OWLs and A levels are your NEWTs?

[@onlyme1028]

@@gracieliz95 Yes, only nowadays it's GCSE's and A Levels. However, J.K Rowling, being the age she is, took O levels.

[@abuckley4311]

I am a high school teacher in the US and I have just finished my 44th year teaching! This video is EXCELLENT! A Star!! Well done!

[@gentlespiritjw4904]

Thank you so much for so many years of dedication! You are appreciated. 👍

[@tytaylor1461]

Congrats, and for all the students far and wide I say this in unison for all of use, sorry being little bad asses

[@johnsymons76]

You have my utmost respect. I was spoiled as I taught in a military academy, a military graduate school and a private university so I never had to deal with discipline. I honestly would be petrified of teaching in an American high school! 😱 🤣. P.S. Hi Jean! Have a great weekend! ♥️🤗💐🌷🌼

[@dwhetsel695]

Well done! I am beginning my 29th year of teaching KG-2nd Special Education. I still love teaching! Paperwork and the testing mentality, not so much

[@gentlespiritjw4904]

@@johnsymons76 Hi to you too! It's my turn to say I have the utmost respect for what YOU did! 👍 I hope you have a great weekend too, dear friend. ❤🙏🌻😇

[@adriandarkbloom1182]

I would like to say that our British show "The Inbetweeners" portray British secondary schools and life as a teenager most accurately.

[@TangentOmega]

In the U.S. they separate middle school with the idea being that the prepubescent kids are separated from the post-pubescent.

[@shadowkissed2370]

Not every city separates middle school from high school. The city I live in is building a new combined school for middle and high school.

[@Imme_begin]

Shadow Kissed I think that’s rare. I’ve never heard of it until now.

[@shadowkissed2370]

@@Imme_begin not as rare as you think. I guess it just depends on the state and school district.

[@tiffanymeckley8739]

@@shadowkissed2370 yep for my high school years, a new school was built called a Secondary School and it was 7th-12th horrible.

[@CrisCudi98]

That’s how it was for me too, elementary school K-6 Middle school 7-8 High school 9-12

[@criskity]

In the US, if you say "leave school", people will interpret that as "dropping out" of school. That is, quitting school before completing all the classes required for graduation.

[@NickLea]

That's interesting - as a Brit nobody in the UK talks about graduating except from university. Someone who has "graduated" from high school in the UK is simply called a "school leaver". Perhaps part of the reason for this is that, historically, there have always been two different points at which students can leave or graduate from school so it would perhaps seem odd to have two different "graduations" from the same school. The age for leaving compulsory education in the UK has gone from 15 in 1947 to 16 in 1972 to 18 in 2015. So most people left at that age (when I was at school about 85% of people left at age 16). Those that stayed on did higher level courses (similar to AP courses in US high schools) up until the age of 18 to prepare for university.

[@godsbabeborn-again5945]

Same in South Africa.

[@TheDoctorsDancer]

@@NickLea lol. We use "graduate" way too much in the US! in some places you even graduate from Kindergarten! Lol. Where I am from in Ohio, "graduation" usually indicates you are finished with all the grades at one school and going to another. So I had 8th grade graduation, and high school graduation because I went to a K-8 school.

[@TheItalianDramaKing]

Here in Florida: Preschool - 4-5 years old Elementary School: Kindergarten & 1st-5th Grade (Ages 5-10) Junior High "Middle School": 6th-8th Grade (Ages 11-13) High School: 9th-12th Grade (Ages 14-18) Anything after that is optional which is College/University for us.

[@tiffanymeckley8739]

Some Americans dont know this Junior High is 7-9 and Middle school can be 6-8 or just 7-8 depending on the area.

[@gilbertv1433]

In AZ, (at least in my school district) elementary school is just k-8th grade

[@agme8045]

In my country is basically the same, but junior high is just part of our elementary school (though we call them, kindergarten, primary school and secondary school, not in english lol but thats the literal translation)

[@RosheenQuynh]

In my school (or maybe state, idk), 15 year olds were usually sophomores but because I started kindergarten late, I was 16 as a freshman. Even though I never learned how to drive, I used to joke that I could technically learn how to drive before the rest of my classmates lol

[@LTBudd]

@@RosheenQuynh We had a couple kids that were held back two years in my year. They got to learn how to drive in 8th grade. You had to be 15 by a certain time of the year in order to learn how to drive. Now they get to learn when they're 14.

[@HollyLetson]

I remember thinking "Well, nobody uses that type of math in real life." in HS. Then, our Geometry teacher made us do a report and oral presentation (with visual aids) on "How Geometry is used in 'insert job here'.". I couldn't think of a job that requires it, but my father was all like, "You should call your uncle. He's a mechanist. He uses Geometry in his job all the time.". I called him, and sure enough, he actually does. I remember doing pretty well on that project. It just goes to show that those maths do come in handy for some people, even after HS.

[@MsTrain69]

We wrapped our books in paper grocery bags. 📚 Anyone else remember Trapper Keepers? I used to love those! They kept me organized which I loved ♥️

[@lauriekingsbury4683]

MsTrain69 I was so proud of my Lisa Frank trapper keeper!

[@princesslisamarie7860]

Laurie Kingsbury good ole Lisa Frank!!

[@timriehl1500]

As a former teacher, I can say you are "forced" to take academics because you are so young, you don't really know what you are capable of and we want to expose you to as much as the world has to offer. But you are right, Social Studies could include lessons on politics and math could include how to manage your finances, etc. It would be fairly easy to include real world applications to most subjects. A good teacher would.

[@JEdwardBanasikJr]

I wish some teacher would have explained to me when I was around 8 or 9 why we are learning all this beyond "it's required". Had someone said the purpose was to expose you to stuff and see what you like/dislike, it would have changed my whole outlook on school. However, I'm a child of the mid-70s to mid-80s American (Texas) Public School System.

[@laurendefrank7380]

I teach 6-8th grade math and I teach a ton about finances. It is not in the standards but I feel like it is extremely important. A good teacher is true and sadly there are a lot of terrible teachers (I had some).

[@devonlass1967]

I'd like to add that just because now you don't use pythagoras theoram (having bad spelling day today) or whatever in your job it doesn't mean someone else isn't using it in theirs and if they hadn't learned it at school they probably couldn't do that job now. I totally agree though some of the stuff seemed pointless at the time and more useful stuff like basic finances would have helped a lot and I also wish they were included as they are useful for everyone.

[@jwb52z9]

As you know, assuming you are an American former teacher, you're not given enough time to do much of anything that's not strictly mandated and then there's always the "teaching to the test" problem, which is a joke. I have been out of High School nearly 23 yeas now and with all of that combined with a rural poor district, I didn't learn much of anything that would do me any good because I'm not an academic person, really. I was stuck in a situation where everything, and I mean that literally, was taught by rote memorization. I still can't purposely memorize to save my life. School was not fun for me, to say the least.

[@jwb52z9]

@J Edward Banasik Jr. I can relate. I started school in the early to mid 80s. It was horrible because that was the era when schools were starting to experiment with teaching methods, but none of them stuck because teachers didn't like them and parents complained when the kid had to do something that disrupted home life.

[@janeathome6643]

So your “tutor time” sounds like our “homeroom”; announcements, distributions, etc., lasting 10-15 minutes, either first thing or in between periods 1&2.

[@lelem1052]

Yeah that's pretty much it. We get notices and we get registered but it's also part of our house system because the people in my form were also the people in my house in that year. It's different at sixth form but that's how it was year 7-11.

[@lelem1052]

But that's not the same for everyone. I know some people had forms that had people from every year in them.

[@anrach579]

This was what I was going to say. Their "tutor time" = our "homeroom." And you would just say, "I'm in Mr./Ms. So-and-so's homeroom." And: elementary school (Kindergarten & 1st - 5th grades) is about ages 5-10. Middle school (6-8) = 11-13 High School (9-12) = 14-17/18 And my high school started at like 7:15 and ended at 2:45. I HATED getting up so early.

[@lelem1052]

@@anrach579 we have names because they're our houses. So because I'm in Austen I was in 7A 8A 9A 10A 11A and so on...

[@HeyItzMol]

@@anrach579 In Britain we have nursery which is the equivalent to your kindergarten. This was for children from the ages of about 2-4. Then you start primary school at the age of 4 or 5, and you leave primary school at 11 or 12 (starting and finishing ages obviously depends on when your birthday falls). Primary school is from what we call reception, which is the first grade as you would call it in America, and it goes up to year 6 which you would call 5th grade (I think). When you're 11/12, you start secondary/high school. Some people in Britain (like me) do call it high school, though it's more common to call it secondary school. This goes from year 7- year 11 (11/12 - 15/16). In high school we had a morning form time and an afternoon form time (one before 1st period and the second one would be after lunch; before 4th period).

[@wrighto_0358]

Just in case anyone was interested, I finished year 11 this year, and the way they grade students now is on a 9 (highest) to 1 (lowest) basis. Technically, the only fail is a U (ungraded), but if you get a 3 or below in Maths or English Language you have to resit the exam, so anything below a 4 is a fail. They changed it to 9 to 1 as they wanted a grade higher than A*, so a 9 is somewhat like an A** , 4s and 5s are Cs, a 6 is a B, a 7 is an A and an 8 is an A*

[@neesie7597]

This is similar to what ours is. Except represented dif. Really all your grades add up to 100% & if you get 70% thats a C if its 80% B 90% and up an A....anything below 70 is not passing some courses depending on what it will credit a D but partially.

[@agme8045]

wrighto_03 such a mess lol why they don’t do like the rest of the world and use grades from 1 to 10 (usually when your younger from 1 to 100) its just easier lol depending on the place commonly you either pass with a 6 or 7, though i think 6 its the most common. But in college for example you can pass a test with 4 but then you will have to take a final exam at the end of the year with all of the subject contents, otherwise you need to pass with an 8 to not do any other tests.

[@LTBudd]

While some schools in the US have expanded their grading systems with a 5 (0-5), in most respects here, an A = 4, a B=3, C=2, and a D=1. An F is a 0. An E is an incomplete/ungraded. Anything less than a 3.0 and you're not going to most Universities, even then a 3.0 likely won't get you into a top-ranked school. For most classes, anything less than a 2 is consider an unsuccessful completion of the coursework. You won't graduate high school.

[@thebeest007]

Wow in France we’re soo much simple, grades go from 0 to 20/20 lol

[@agme8045]

thebeest007 I’m pretty sure 1 to 10 is even easier.

[@Hellstormraider]

My high school has over 3,000 and is one of the small schools in my district of southern California

[@rogersmith1408]

My graduating class was 2k people

[@fernandodelgado969]

This will date me. When I went to school it was, Elementary grades K-6, Junior High 7-9 and High school 10-12

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Same here!

[@Sonnie0325]

My class was the 1st 9th grade class at my high school. Our Jr. high had become a middle school.

[@rebeccacorbin1590]

Close. Jr high was 7 and 8. HS was 9 - 12

[@BrokebackBob]

Same here!

[@MrGlenspace]

Fernando Delgado me too. Junior high started at 9:30 x 4:00, high school was 8:00 or 8:30 - 2:30. We had 8 periods. Lunch, PE, science, language, social studies, math, shop or home ec. And English.

[@theanderblast]

I'm imagining a young Lia putting on the Sorting Hat and it whispering "Webster"....

[@liahatz]

LOL!

[@Wellch]

theanderblast Lia is a Ravenclaw, I think.

[@jessicabass5003]

My mind is blown that school in Britain is the exact same as Harry Potter 😂 I honestly thought that was just a Hogwarts thing

[@jamesl6639]

School seemed an eternity, when I was going. Now on my 50th anniversary, it seems just like yesterday. Time marches on!

[@heddystgeorge3756]

39 years for me

[@Wellch]

James Liddle Time Flies.

[@jamesl6639]

@@Wellch It certainly does!

[@LeoTheShortGuy]

Joel and Lia forever and ever. Joel and Lia forever and ever. Joel and Lia forever and ever.

[@johnbowers6258]

forever and ever, amen.

[@Angie_King_Bens_Grandma]

It's nice to see them together again, in person, isn't it?! 😍😍

[@Blondy321]

I like this channel and Those Two Brits so much more than their personal channels.

[@iwnunn7999]

Joel : "my parents picked me up." Lia: "that's nice." eyeballs rolling back in her head. Lol!!

[@criskity]

@A G When I was in school, it was considered embarrassing to have your parents pick you up or drop you off, as it was a sign of not being independent and grown up.

[@webwarren]

@@criskity depending on the school district and the year, the distance one had to live from the school to get a bus could be quite far. In Junior High, the distance was far enough that the parents got together to get a municipal bus to run a limited route to get us to and from school...

[@dodiecanova854]

I knocked my PE requirements out over a summer as an elective. I didn’t want to sweat and shower during my regular school day. We have Freshman (9th), Sophomore (10th), Junior (11th) and Seniors (12). The classes/grades would compete against each other during Pep Rallies (football season) & against each other for a whole week during homecoming. We had 7 periods a day with a different subject for each. I stayed with music and art as my electives.

[@Shay2theT]

That's cool you were able to do PE during the summers. Genius!

[@lsmith9249]

Dodie Canova we competed against each other too, but our year was divided into 4 houses and they were given names and colours

[@deekrebs592]

I blew out my knee in 6th grade and was excused from PE for the rest of my school years. In place of PE, I volunteered in an English as a Second Language class all 4 years. 😁

[@jwb52z9]

Back when I went to school in the 80s up to the late 90s, in a rural area of Texas, summer school was a punishment for failing students and it only happened when a parent could/was willing to pay the teacher of whatever subject it was, out of their own pocket to take time out of their Summer to teach the kid more.

[@webwarren]

We also did seven periods. Usually English, social studies, math, science, foreign language, gym (2-3 times a week), and an elective (usual choices art, industrial art/shop, music (theory, vocal, instrumental, or music History)...

[@michaelmullard4292]

So fun!! Thanks for the education, haha! I remember when I was in second grade and how intimidated I was when a 7th grader came into my room! Now I look at a 7th grader as being a bratty kid!

[@shangri-laj9578]

I'm American and when I went to school there was elementary (K-6grade), junior high (7-8th grade), high school(10-12th grade).

[@agoogleuser4443]

Did you skip 9th grade, lol?🤣

[@funnt9055]

Also middle school?

[@judahfletcher691]

If u got five 1’s and two 2’s you really would have failed your GCSE’s 😂😂😂 the best grade is 9

[@tiffanyandrade7128]

you guys are my favorite duo!!! u guys are so positive and laugh about everything I love it :)

[@BrokebackBob]

Whenever I see you two post a new video, I feel good and after I watch it, I feel great. God bless you two. The bird walking across the grass like a boss left to right behind you was hysterical.

[@teknekon]

Well done mates! So cheered to see your team vids! Lovely! It's really enjoyable and relaxing. You're both marvelous! Glad to be back catching your thoughts and enlightenment. More please! Thanks! L&C 👍♥️😘🇬🇧

[@rebella8898]

At my school, we called “tutor groups” “home room”. But in high school, we didn’t have home room. But I graduated in 2006 and it could be different now

[@melissah521]

We don't have homeroom anymore we just start classes when school starts

[@rebella8898]

Hello Everybody we only had home room until 9th grade because at my school, the actual high school only had grades 10-12. But 9th was still technically high school. And in high school we only had an assigned teacher we would go to when we had the standardized tests and such.

[@alyssagilliland3691]

I graduated in 2017 and we still had homeroom! It was only like 10-15 minutes and it’s when we had announcements and they handed out papers and stuff like prom flyers or something like that🤷🏼‍♀️. Most days there wasn’t anything handed out or done, and a couple of times senior year my teacher didn’t even show up😂

[@VRDennis]

I graduated 1997 we had homeroom

[@TheDoctorsDancer]

I think it depends on where you are. Every school district is different.

[@rockeyrocket1224]

Why do I get the impression that as soon as Joel and Lia turn the camera off they say rude things to one another before walking away in opposite directions, and then just before the camera is turned on they both take a deep breath and a gigantic smile appears as they continue the facade of being great friends for the audience.

[@Angie_King_Bens_Grandma]

So great seeing you guys together! Your happiness is obvious and it radiates out to all of us!🌞 Thank You!! 💌💌

[@gwillis01]

Some U S high schools have what are called hall monitors who are supposed to discourage loitering or lingering in the halls.

[@youtubeaccount3384]

2002 High School Graduate. I remember in my last year I had Calculus at 7am. I was one of the over achievers so I was in a lot of leadership roles which meant early morning meetings at 6am. I filled my schedule with as much as I could so I did not have a lunch break. Off school by 3:30pm, work @ 4pm. Off work @ 10-10:30pm, home by 11pm, homework til 1-2am...repeat.

[@GandalfTheGay98]

What a waste of life

[@freetobemeasmr5480]

THIS is why I started watching you guys a couple years ago! The other content is good but I’m infatuated with British culture and you two have me hooked for life! I’ve been to London once on a group tour and can’t wait to get back there someday!❤️

[@Moonbeams_SweetDreams]

In USA (Ohio 1999-2003) I went to Miamisburg High School (MHS), which was the name of the town I lived. It was grades 9-12 which would be about 14 year old to 18 year olds. 9th grade (Freshman), 10th (Sophmore), 11th (Junior), 12th (Senior). 6th 7th and 8th graders went to "Junior High" or some called in Middle School, and kindergarten through 5th grade went to "elementary" school. The form or tutor you speak of we called "Home Room" of about 25 students and at my school you were assigned a home room freshman year and kept it all throughout highschool. We only went to home room at the start of each quarter or semester. English, Math, Science, typing, Art, PE, History, Government were all requirements. Foreign Language was optional but if you planned to go to college you needed 2 years of foreign language. My HS had around 1,600 students. We started at 7:30am and finished at 2:15pm

[@Moonbeams_SweetDreams]

We had to take our required courses but any students who were thinking of going to college would focus all their elective course towards their future career choice. I took business, marketing, communications, etc because I wanted to get a business degree in college.

[@meligarrett9197]

There were 10 in my high school graduating class. 😂 Rural school.

[@rutheirhart4190]

Wow. 25 in mine. I thought we were small.

[@caseyflorida]

Very different from mine. There were 380 in my graduating class.

[@drach2249]

Omgosh that is super small school!

[@mplwy]

There was about 90 in mine. About 400 kids in the whole school.

[@hayleysteffen9432]

there’s about 900 - 1000 every graduating class in my school

[@charlestonnana4170]

I love watching you two you always make my day. I can be so depressed and your video comes on and changes my attitude instantly. Thank you for being so upbeat all the time. I wish you both the best the world has to offer. My name is DawnEllen

[@ThoseTwoBrits1]

❤️❤️❤️

[@leslijenkins3661]

Well when I went to school, mind you that was almost 30 years ago, our classes were 45 minutes long. I was required to take 4 years of English and 4 years of History (Social Sciences, American History, World History, American Government) 3 math credits and 2 science credits. Over the course of 4 years you were also expected to take 2 fine arts credits (this included languages) and 2 PE classes that were half credits. But you had to have 23 credits overall to be considered for graduation. Some of our electives were half credits (because they were only a half year) and some were a full credit. We had everything from Sewing to Drafting to Accounting and even specialized gym classes. We started at like 7:45 in the morning and went to about 2:30. We had homeroom in the morning for about 20 minutes to take attendance and announcements. They were alphabetical. So say all seniors with the last initial of A and part of B would be assigned to room 301 or something. But there were dozens of home rooms. My graduating class was 212, but there were a few that didn't get to graduate so it was probably closer to 230. And with four grades, 9,10,11,12) we probably had close to 1000 students total. Grading systems across the US vary and even by district.

[@Angie_King_Bens_Grandma]

Pretty much the same as my school. Class of '86 (wow, that was a long time ago!) We didn't have homeroom. They took attendance in every class but the main one was 1st period. We had 2 years of language and 3 years of science. I got most of my required credits done by Junior year so my senior year was Phyics, Trigonometry, History, English, then lunch, then photography and then I had Work Study for 6th period because I had a job. That met once a month for paperwork. 5 classes Senior year. Fun times.

[@Shay2theT]

I graduated in 2000. It was much the same for our school as well.

[@lawrencelewis5800]

Yep same thing Class of 79

[@donny1960]

I went to a Catholic High School (Providence) and we had to do the complete 4 years also. 4 years of Math, Science, English and Religion. 2 years of PE. 2 years of another language. 2 years of History. And a couple of electives here and there. (Typing, Music, Marketing, Ect). It was College Prep all the way. They let me skip Study Halls, and I was born with a defect in my heels that prevented me from doing PE. So I was basically in classes a year ahead of my grade. I was taking double Math and Science courses and AP courses my last two years. I went to Loyola University in Chicago, double majoring in Math and Computer Science and Theology (I was studying to be a Priest). Because my birthday was very late in the year, I basically entered year 2 of College right before my 18th birthday. It was kind of scary but fun. I always thought of school as a "job" so I didn't feel too out of place being younger than my classmates.

[@tfive24]

Class of '99 in Atl, I was last class in Ga who the option to have half days. In my senior year of high school, most of my classes were optional, my English class and personal fitness were my only required classes to graduate.

[@rich3371]

When I was in high school it was a giant three story building & had about 3000 students but you have to remember that the US has over 300 million people

[@PoachedDiegs]

Don’t know much about high school. I was put into homeschool after 7th grade, but I was top of my class so there’s that.

[@lsmith9249]

Calling it BIG SCHOOL is something we said to YOUNG CHILDREN, when l was at school, it was secondary school or you went to the Comp or Grammer

[@Aboz]

I grew up in a rural area in North Dakota. When I graduated (1970) there were 70 students in the entire school from kindergarten through grade 12

[@kirstyphilp664]

This video took me back to secondary school! Loved it. Our form groups were letters but it stood for the teachers name for example 7JDE = John Doe as the teachers name, I’m so glad you were able to meet and do some videos while in lockdown keep safe 🥰

[@RickNoppenberger]

15:19 is my favorite part of the video..... seagull!

[@chriswillgoose5970]

Wow if you feel old for leaving in 08, makes me feel ancient.

[@RJ-mw2gw]

Great video! You had such a natural conversation about your school experience, and I really enjoyed it!

[@elizabethrehmer5516]

I loved this format!! So much more natural and relaxed!

[@RetiredRosie]

"Back in the Day" in the 50's and 60's, we covered our books in brown paper grocery bags. Very boring.

[@princesslisamarie7860]

Rosanne Runfola Went to school in the 80s and 90s and we did the same. It wasn’t boring it was cost-effective and we got to decorate it anyway we wanted!

[@Gr8man4sex]

Excellent video Legends. When I was in "High School" many years ago our day was broken done into 7 or 8 periods. We were required to have English, Math, Science, and Social Studies. Everything else was an elective. Electives included things like chorus, shop, and things like that. We were required to have some form of P.E in our freshman and sophomore years but not required in junior and senior years. We also had at least one period during the day for what was called study hall. Our first period of the day was called Home Room and was usually about 20 minutes in order to take attendance. Junior and Senior years we were also allowed to take Drivers Ed. We didn't even know what a computer was back then. That really is about all I can recall and I am not really sure how accurate I am because I went to High School back in the 60's and 70's. Thank you for the great video and I am so glad you are both doing so well. Stay safe and stay Legends.

[@MaryMary-pr4iu]

Class if '80... the year of the ash. Thanks to Mt. St. Helens, I graduated (long story)

[@MaryMary-pr4iu]

Judy Reyes oh, yes it is... too long to type out 🤗😂

[@rutheirhart4190]

Class of 77. Watch the movie “Dazed and Confused”. That was my life at the end of my junior year.

[@Angie_King_Bens_Grandma]

Class of '86... Fast Times At Ridgemont High. Totally my school!😂

[@leaflover9625]

Ruth Eirhart Me too. Class of 77. Totally Dazed and Confused!

[@Quarton]

My daughter graduated from her small town high school here in Illinois - there were 9 graduates. Today, in 2020: "Ohio Community High School is a public school located in Ohio, IL. It has 35 students in grades 9-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 5 to 1." Her brother attended another public High School, and he graduated in a class of 602, from Edwardsville, Illinois. Thanks for telling us about the high schools/secondary schools in the U.K.

[@jenniferciliberto3078]

Thanks for doing this! I have wondered about the schools for a while and you guys did great answering questions!

[@cathyknapp8439]

2010 my daughter graduated high school with just over 500 in the graduating class

[@edwardmiessner6502]

But puberty comes early for some. I remember one of my female classmates in fifth grade was developed!

[@melissah521]

@@edwardmiessner6502 what does that have to do with the original comment lol

[@cathyknapp8439]

Steph Welch Life yes she did. Cap and gown and all the students walked and had their name read 😊

[@LeoS.B.Rosevillte]

My high school in the US still has the ABC grading system and my Hugh school starts at 7:20 AM XD

[@dumb747ness]

7:20?!?!? I'd rather die than have to get up that early!

[@lorensop1540]

Lucky, my class starts at 7:00 am. Those extra 20 minutes would be so nice

[@melissah521]

Gotta love hugh school

[@m3lgar582]

When I used to go to High School, it started at 8:00 AM

[@ivetterodriguez1994]

@@dumb747ness That's not when you'd get up, that's when you'd be in class.

[@denystull355]

When I went to school way back in the 60's at my high school in the US we were allowed to take electives (as they were called) in whatever we wanted, I took band (music) and debate. I had friends who took, vocal (singing), band, and drama. Really by the time you got to your senior (last) year your requirements for math and English were finished as we only had 3 years, though there 4th year electives for them. If you didn't want to take math your third year you could take accounting/finance in its place. We had typing, not IT back then. And we only had 10 minutes between classes. Foreign language not a requirement at all, though it was offered as an elective from your freshman year onward. We also had vocational skills (woodworking, masonry, automotive repair, etc) offered for those who didn't want to go onto college after graduation.

[@seandesmond5560]

Loving the park chat videos Joel and Lia!!! 👍 I'm Australian and went school in the state of NSW and high was Year 7-12 from ages 12-18 The school year is from February to December with four terms of ten weeks and two weeks holiday between terms. In Years 7 & 8 you do all the subjects on offer English, Maths, Science, Geography, History, PE, Music, Art, Texiles, Food tech, Woodwork and a Language. In Years 9 & 10 You do the compulsory subjects of English, Maths and Science plus 3 electives. In years 11 & 12 You do 11 or 12 units of study and each subject was generally 2 units some had a 3rd unit option. English and Maths were compulsory plus 3 or 4 electives. The HSC is a set of exams you take to determine your mark in getting into university.

[@t00l0fsatan]

American secondary schools dont really teach life skills either.

[@michaelkline6374]

Great subject and the fresh natural energy is over the top! Thanks 😊

[@emilysundquist270]

In the US, we have elementary school (grades: kindergarten- 5th), Middle school/junior high (grades: 6th- 8th), and high school (grades: 9th- 12th). You start kindergarten at either age 5 or 6 and graduate high school at either age 17 or 18. For high school, every school is different when it comes to the length of the school day, but at my school, it started at 7:35am and ended at 2:30pm. Unless you were in marching band (marching band is before actual school time and starts at 6:40am at a block called "zero hour"). We had 5 blocks per day, and had different classes every other day. All blocks were 90mins long, except 3rd block, which was called "Academy" and was 30mins long. Academy is not really a class, it's a time to finish up homework or just rest a little. And 4th block was 2 hours long (which seems like a pretty long time, but it goes by faster than you'd think because lunch time is in the middle of 4th block). Basically, the requirements of high school were that you finish the amount of credits required to graduate, which is nice because if you are an advanced kid, you can graduate early if you'd like and move onto college a year before everyone else, but even if you do finish the required credits/classes early, you don't have to graduate early if you don't want to and you may take what's called "duel credits" which are college courses; So you can even get some college courses out of the way while in high school if you want.

[@kristanicole1995]

Loved the park scenery! Should do that more often. Love you guys❤

[@amberlouise86]

We had four groups per year called 'forms' our day was: 'tutorial' in the morning, then lessons were period 1,2, *break* then period 3, then *dinner hour* then period 4 & 5. Our groups were called Whittington (blue), Grey (yellow), Lee (green) and Summery (red).

[@mmcss640]

In my high school in Southern California, many moons ago, 1st Period started at 8 am and lasted for 50 minutes. "A" Period was available for a limited number of classes and "A" Period started at 7 am. After 2nd Period, which ended at 10 am, we had a 20-minute intermission for refreshments, called Nutrition. 4th Period ended at 11:40, which is when lunch period began. After lunch, we 5th and 6th Period classes. Typical course offerings included the usual English, History, Mathematics, Science, and P.E. Elective courses included band (Marching Band, Jazz Band, Concert Band), Glee Club / Choir, Home Economics, agriculture, horticulture, automotive repair, a variety of civic clubs, and so forth. Generally speaking, high school in the States is comprised of Grades 9-12, although some high schools are 10-12. Junior High Schools, or Middle Schools, were usually Grades 7-8, while others were 7-9. Elementary School was K-6. High school graduates are typically 17-18 years of age.

[@georgiawardle618]

Our school had 4 houses named after types of trees, and about 15-20 forms per house. Our forms were "vertical tutor groups" so we had about 5 people from each year group 7-11, and the older kids mentored the new year 7s. Our forms were labelled the first letter of the house names then the two initials of the tutor. We also had our 'main class' in year 7&8 that were named 7c/8c, 7r/8r etc... that you had all your core, non-setted lessons with

[@traceymorgan-willcox2914]

Loved this when you both started reminiscing, had a few laughs with you

[@wrosapfs]

My high school had 8,000 students and my graduating class 2,000. In Brooklyn, NY!! Really enjoying watching you guys 💕

[@Bettybbash]

I love both of you! You are fun to watch and also both very knowledgeable! We can learn so much from you guys! Thank you 🙏

[@mattslupek7988]

In America, we do pre-school when we're 3-4, kindergarten when we're 5 (the first year of elementary school, or as you say, primary school), followed by first grade through fifth grade. After elementary school, we went to junior high school (which they now call middle school from 6thto 8th grade (ages 11-13). High school was 9th through 12th (ages 14-17). Elementary school was just learning the basics (reading, writing, math science, social studies, language arts). Middle school and high school is when we started doing SPECIFIC classes, like algebra instead of just math, earth-space science instead of just science, et cetera. This is also when we started with languages. We graduated high school when we were 17 or 18, depending on when your birthday was. After that we went to college, which was usually 4 years. We used the A-B-C-D-E scale as well. After elementary school, the grading scale went like this: A = 95-100 B = 88-94 C = 81-87 D = 75-80 E = 74 and below When I went to college, the grading scale was a lot more relaxed. A = 90-100 B = 80-89 C =70-79 D = 60-69 F= 59 and below

[@kimberlyk2295]

It was fun trying to think of those forgotten details from my school years, after watching your video. Thanks Joel & Lia, love you both!❤️🌷

[@kimberlyk2295]

@@Judy_R yep, some good, some bad, but all of it makes up the various parts/facets of who we are...just wouldn't EVER want to go back & do it all again! 😏

[@kimberlyk2295]

@@Judy_R 😁

[@stephaniel3032]

Love you guys. This was a great video!

[@johnsymons76]

Totally fascinating information about British high schools. I would like you to do a vlog about the social interactions of your high school students. Specifically cliques, bullies, snobs, geeks, athletes, artistic types, shy students, popular students, etc. Hope you will consider doing this sometime in the future. Wishing both of you a wonderful weekend. ♥️🙏🏽🌎

[@maryalice417]

Joel's school experience sounds exactly like my secondary school. My forms were letters, I finished at 2.50, started at 8.30, had 2000 pupils, form time was the same, Wednesday had longer tutor time...😂😂

[@TaylorMMontgomery]

Ohhh, the audio is so good jesus thank you, finally y'all got some lavs

[@quantquill]

Hearing you guys say, "When we were in school we didn't even have flat screens..." Oh, man. When I was in high school, I took a keyboarding class that used typewriters. My computer class was on how to program in Basic. COBOL was a really newfangled language our computer teacher hadn't learned yet. Our computers didn't yet have hard drives. We inserted a DOS floppy disk to boot up the computer. When we wrote code, we saved it on a floppy disk. We had enormous monitors with tiny screens and blinky green cursors and we wrote programs to do things like add two numbers. We wrote out our programs by hand, then typed it in, compiled the code and ran it, and inevitably had a bug. Then we'd print the code out on 11 x 17 paper on a printer that had wheels on each end fo the roller and little holes along the perforated edges of the paper caught on the wheels to push paper out. Then we'd debug the code and try to fix it, rinse and repeat. No one I knew used a computer. I had zero concept of how anyone could ever use them in their everyday life. When I went to college, I used a computer to write my papers. It didn't have its own hard drive, it had two 3.5 inch disk drives, one to boot up the computer, the other to run an app like Wordperfect, then after it was booted I'd take out the DOS disk and put in a blank disk to save my work. By the time I left college, a lot of companies were using computers for word processing (with WordPerfect) and bookkeeping (with Lotus Notes, what we used before Excel). The internet started before I went to grad school, and you could count the number of websites. Everything was dial up. Now we have 3D everything and virtual worlds. It's absolutely freaking amazing how far online tech has evolved.

[@funnt9055]

Wow

[@biancamachado4183]

Great video. I'm always fascinated by how different the school systems are around the world. And also, being from Brazil, I find it curious that everyone else in the world gets to choose a couple of electives and eliminate some. Everyone does all the subjects here. Also, we don't change classrooms, it's the same group of students for the whole day, every day.

[@CraftyBones]

I went to high school 9th-12th and we started at 7:30 and were out at 3:05 with 7, 55 minute periods and a 30 minute lunch

[@peggyford3801]

I just skated by. Lowest possible grades. That is a big regret of mine. I ran home from school to watch television. I wasn’t in a happy household. My parents were not supportive. They were too busy, working to pay the bills. One of those bills, that they really couldn’t afford, was braces on my teeth. I really needed them. I am so grateful that they sacrificed so much to pay for it.

[@davehensel2247]

Love you both. Thank you for the content.

[@nicki1273]

In my school (UK) we have something called PSE which is Personal Social Education where we learn about life and money etc. but we only have it once a week

[@colonyofrats4193]

Yes that's in most uk schools

[@MarkoSpin]

In Slovenia, we have highschool from 15-19, either vocational highschool (technical, business, etc.) or gymnasium (university preparatory). At the end of Year 4, you take the Matura Exam in 5 subjects - three obligatory (Slovene, Maths, English) and 2 elective (for example, Geography and German, etc., or the technical subjects if you were in a vocational school). You have to take both written and oral exams for each of these. School was from 7 am to 1 pm or 1:45 pm, depended on the day. A lesson was 45 min, with 5 min breaks between lessons and one 25 min break at 9:35. Kids were divided in groups of 25-30 and were given a letter: e.g. I was F. So 1F, 2F, 3F, and last year was 4F. You take all of your classes for all 4 years with the same group of 25-30 kids. In my case, we even stayed in the same classroom, and only left the classroom for PE or when we had lab. Grades were 1-5, with 5 being the best. There was no division according to advanced or less advanced, everyone had to take the same tests. The year was divided into trimesters (sept-dec, jan-march, april-june, summer holidays from June 25 to Aug 31; now, it's semesters not trimesters, they changed it). We had a week off last week of october, last week of december, last week of february and last week of april). Also, PE, music, and art were not graded, but just given a "less successful", "successful" or "very successful" description and did not affect your final grade average at the end of the year

[@familybills2908]

Our high school - grades 9 - 12 (ages 14 - 18 roughly) starts at 7:10 am, and dismissal is at 2:25 pm. You first go to Home Room for attendence, then on to run through your schedule. Each student has 7 courses each year, with Even/Odd days - they alternate the 7 courses.Then there is after school tutoring, and after school events like band, football, spanish club, etc until 4:30 pm. We also have Saturday school which occurs a handful of times during the year and is not madatory, but it’s very helpful to get one on one help, extra credit, etc. Each student must take core classes: math, english, science, social studies, PE/health. Then they fill in the rest of their schedule with elective courses like IT, music/arts of some sort, auto tech, household management, ect. Preschool - ages 3 &4. Elementary school - Kindergarten (age 5) - 5th grade (age 10). Middle School - 6th grade - 8 th grade ( age 11 - 13).

[@Nzralw]

You both are gorgeous and your content is always entertaining (especially when you eat or being sarcastic), I'm a new fan!

[@oliviavizza8731]

Where I’m from in the US, we had elementary/primary school which was kindergarten-5th grade (11/12), Middle School/Junior High which was 6th-8th grade (13/14). High School was grades 9-12, graduating at age 17/18. My state also had standardized tests at the end of every school year (June) called Regents Exams, which acted as our final exams for the course and dictated how good we were. You had to pass a certain amount in order to graduate, and you didn’t take a Regents in every subject every year. Most years you took a Regents in whatever math and science you were taking from 8th-10th grade, History Regents 9th-11th grade, and an english regents 11th grade. In my High School we had AP subjects, and newly introduced IB program which I know is in Britain as well. APs and IBs are upper level courses you can take and then take a long exam in May to possibly get college credit. I took both AP and IB courses, AP courses were one year long, and IB courses were mostly 2 years long except a few. we had to take a language from 6th grade to at least 10th grade (choose from French, Italian, Spanish, Latin, and now Mandarin), but most students keep a language through graduation. We have electives you can choose from. I always had my elective be some art class, I took advancing levels of Photography all throughout high school, and also took Psychology in grade 12th.

[@sergeylamygo5157]

You're incredibly entertaining, guys!!!! Wish all people were like you 😃

[@friscomorsegmail]

I remember it being mandatory (Miami-Dade County Public Schools) for us to cover our textbooks in a wrap. We were so poor that we used old grocery paper bags for covering. I remember thinking that only “rich kids” were able to buy the fancy book wraps from the school directly. 🤣😂

[@jicalzad]

We wrapped our books similarly in paper grocery bags, but only because we were not allowed to write on our books, so it was basically our way of personalizing our books on the outside, i guess. We didn't have to wrap our books, but most students did.

[@Joncotter324]

Education/High School curriculums are state run in the US. In Michigan, we’re required 3yrs of Sciences, Math, English, and social studies (history, govt, etc), in addition to a semester of Health and consumer economics and computer science, also a year of PE. Plenty of electives (creatives) too. You’re also required a year of either foreign language or band or choir.

[@helenweight3783]

In the north of England its generally High school. My cousins in the sound never called it high school. Love your videos, keep up the good work xxx

[@annabogart6689]

America has Junior high, which is 7th and 8th grades. some cities may include 6th grade in there. jr. high could also be called middle school. high school was grades 9th to 12th. there were 94 graduates in my graduating class, small town, in 1975

[@aliehanaseem5540]

I love your videeeooos. Hope ur doing well during this quarantine

[@LadyRebeccaFashions]

That was so interesting! It's way different in the US, and you're allowed to do a basically all creative schedule once you've done your requirements. My senior year schedule was I think literally AP (advanced placement) English, AP Government, Wind Ensemble (which was the advanced band), Madrigals (the advanced choir), Concert Choir, serving as an aide in Symphonic Band, Marching Band, and a free period. I had worked hard my other three years, and finished all my other requirements by the end of my junior year, so I didn't have to take any more language classes, I opted not to take the most math class, and I dropped out of the most advanced science class halfway through the year.

[@j.reesebradley4771]

Thank you so much for these videos! I wrote a book for middle grade readers set in England and you guys were my research! So thank you so much. It’s on submission to publishers now! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Be on the lookout for Brumbletide and the Daughter of Eve. 😃

[@user-kw5ze5ky5q]

The USA high school, or at least in Lansing, MI(lower peninsula, middle of the mitten) ended at weird times too. It was a while ago in 06 when I graduated, Im 32 but I think the bell rang at 2:55. It happened in middle school too, I never found out why. Middle school was 6th-8th, HS was 9-12. My middle and high schools have since been replaced😕. Many people hated on our school, I loved it. It was built in 1928 and had ruts in the stairs from 70 years of foot traffic. It was very diverse, had kids from all walks of life and countries. Not like the suburbs where theres 1 black guy and their school was built in 2004. Love you guys! Im always in a better mood after watching you. Much love from a troll in the lower peninsula of Michigan 🤪

[@kennethdaniels4205]

hey...you two are awesome,so honest and explanitary….such a fresh change......love you both (am English.....UK)

[@jcsmom71]

After summer my son will be a senior (his final year, 12th grade). His school has around 2000 people and consists of 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th grades. He goes to school from 8:20-3:30 and he has 4 classes a day that last for 90 minutes each. After the 1st semester he will be finished with one set of classes and will have 4 different classes for the 2nd semester for a total of 8 classes for the school year. I like this system because it reduces the homework on any given day. His main classes- English, Social Studies, Math and Science are divided between the semesters so he doesn’t have the burden of all of them at once. Which is good because he is an athlete that has preseason practices toward the end of first semester and his lacrosse season is during second semester. Those days are long for him. The other two classes per semester are exploratory classes. For those he has taken things like guitar, mechanical design, intro to engineering, etc. The state has required credits you have to have to graduate. Some of those are credits in the arts (guitar), foreign language, etc. He’s in the home stretch and will then go off to college. He’s the baby, so we will then be empty nesters.

[@nicholasness4225]

I'm so jealous of the start times! Middle school started at 8:20am and ended at 3pm, and high school started at 7:20am and ended at 2pm for me. And if you were in a zero period class (extra curricular like jazz band for me, or sometimes a language or other activity class) it began an hour earlier than the start time for everyone else. So most days of high school I was at school by 6:10am to be ready! American schools are similar though, in that we also don't learn finance or taxes, or useful life skills! Glad we aren't the only ones!! One cool thing with American high school is towards your senior year, you could have up to three or four elective classes (like band, drama, art, etc) and could have half a day of fun stuff if you had enough credits marked off! My high school required two years of foreign language. I took Japanese, but they offered Spanish, German, French, and Russian while I was there and before my first year, they had American Sign Language but the teacher retired and nobody was able to replace them. High school was an interesting time!

[@christineallocca7307]

I went to 12 years of Catholic school. Primary school was called elementary school and was grades 1 through 8 where you graduated at 13 or 14 years of age. I had 50 kids in my class with three classes per grade. Next I attended high school which was grades 9 through 12 and you graduated at 17 or 18 years of age. The first class was called Homeroom where they took attendance, said prayers and you listened to the day's announcements. My high school originally only taught commercial classes for girls going into business, but did add more academic classes for girls going onto college. I took a combination of academic and commercial classes. Took public transportation to high school but walked across the street to elementary.

[@MrGraeme]

Little bit different in Scotland; - Primary would go from ages 5 to 12 ( Primary 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 Abbreviated to P1, P2, etc) - High School/Secondary from 12/13 - 18 (Secondary 1,2,3,4,5,6 Abbreviated to S1, S2 etc - Typically this would be called a year so first year, second year etc) Optional to leave at 16 years old (End of S4) you can go out to work or further education - College or Uni Which are always different buildings/establishments in Scotland. - High School started with a 10 minute registration class then 2 periods each 50 minutes then a 10 minute break then another 2 periods each 50 minutes with a 50 minute lunch then another 2 periods of 50 minutes. My High School Actually had High School in the name although it was referred to as "**** High" and still is to this day even though its moved into a specially built community campus. Similar classes were required although for the first 2 years you do a little bit of Everything on the 3rd year you got to choose a few specifics Science, History, geography, Art, music etc. This was done for 2 years then you got to choose more classes and stay in school or to leave. Our School "teams" wear names after ship yards in our town and your Registration/Canteen/toilet & social areas we had two and it was Red and Blue. There wasn't really any rivalry between each house it was more of a sorting and organisational thing that no one really took that seriously. I've been out of School for a similar time as yourselves and they have changed things where some days they finish early and other days they have 7 periods and finish later. Kids these days.

[@pghrpg4065]

In my urban high school my graduating class had 172 people. Most of the suburban districts were larger. The hours were 7:35-2:10 (changed to 2:20 my senior year). 6 of the 7 periods were 44 minutes (until the schedule change in my senior year) with 5 minutes in between to change classes. This was in the early 1990s.

[@mermaid1717]

Class of 2000 here!! My American high school went in at 8:25am & we got out at 2:47pm.... yes 47. With class change the day added up to that minute. Now all the high school are 8:20am-3:34pm.. again yes.. 34.

[@ladyjennyanytime5195]

When i first started Secondary school we started at 9am and finished at 3.50pm. Then when i got to 3rd year/year 9 our school opted out of the local authority and became one of the first Grant maintained,self governed schools in the UK. So our start time changed from 9am to 8.30am and we finished at 2.35pm! Our lunch break was split between the school into 2 half hr sessions and we no longer had an afternoon break. Also we had morning registration at 8.30, then a religious assembly and if we didn't have an assembly we had to say prayers in our classroom with our form teacher. We then would have to come back to our form room after our final lesson at 2.30pm to have afternoon registration so people couldn't bunk off lessons and disappear after lunch or you wouldn't be registered and would get into trouble. We weren't a church school though we did have a school Vicar who also doubled up as games/R.E teacher(he was fab , he swore like a trouper and also staged all of our school musicals and concerts, very funny man!) Because our school was a former Grammar school we had a lot of old school traditions like school houses and merit points and merit deductions a bit like Hogwarts. We also had to stand if ever a teacher came into the classroom and other weird things like that. We weren't supposed to have corporal punishment, it was illegal by that point, some teacher would give you a clip round the ear or would throw a board duster or books at you!! Totally illegal, but then if we'd've complained our parents would just have said , "you must have deserved it!" and given us another one!! I think talking to other middle aged folk this was fairly common practise still in the late 80s early 90s. Loved this video , hope you do some more schooldays ones. :-)

[@emilyjupp8297]

Hi just thought I’d explain the British grading system 9 - high A*/A** 8 - A* 7 - A 6 - B 5 - high C 4 - low C 3 - D/E 2 - E/F 1 - F/G U - U However if you do a higher tier exam anything below a 4 (C) is automatically a U For A Level exams (post 16) it’s still A* - U grades

[@Alan_Mac]

This is the grading system in England and Wales but not in Scotland.

[@emilyjupp8297]

Yea I know but in Scotland the whole school system is different

[@Hannah.smith253]

Therefore not the “British” grading system

[@RobertHeslop]

As a student in the UK: Started at 8:15 with registration, 5 classes per day, finished 3:20, but on a Wednesday every 2 weeks we finished at 2:20, oh and COVID didn't exist. Now as a teacher in Thailand: I get up at 6:00, start at 7:30, lunch times are different times per different grades, and the end of the day is 3:45 or 4:30 two times a week when we do after-school. Temperature checked, have to wear a mask outside class, a protective shield in class, sanitise hands endlessly. The school itself is huge and we have 3 departments which are kindergarten, where I work, then primary and high school (anuban, prathomska and mathayom) which we call K1 > K3, P1 > P6 and M1 to M3. K is how we refer to classes in English, but Thai teachers call them อนุบาล 1, อนุบาล 2, อนุบาล 3 (anuban) Thai schools have a lot of students, last year I covered a class for P1/10 meaning 10 separate classes of circa 30 students in Primary 1, so 300 students in just that one year group. Students start K1 at around 3 in Thailand, which is basically nursery, they study 3 years up to K3, then move to P1 and up to P6, then my school has M1 to M3 in the same school which is 3 years of high school but the numbers are small as most students go to a school of the full high school years as after M3 at my school students need to transfer to another school to finish M4 to M6.

[@debbivaughn1313]

Love these chats!💕

[@JEdwardBanasikJr]

I grew up in Sugar Land, Texas which is a suburb city of Houston. We had 3 High Schools of 2000 students each in our school district when I graduated in 1985. Now there are 12 High Schools of 2000 students each in the same area. Used to be nothing but farm land. Just amazing how many people now live in the same area.

[@sofiJa1363]

Here in Bosnia& Herzegovina we have - primary school : 9 years (compulsory) ( 6-15 YO) - high school : 3/4 years (15-19 yo) - faculty - 3+2 or 4 years or 6 (for medical sciences) Grades in school 1-5 (5 being the best) Grades on faculty 6-10 (10 being the best) I enjoyed your videoooo 😊 We used green blackboard, and white chalk 😂😂😂