A look at First World War and Second World War British issue leather jerkins. / riflemanmoore / riflemanmoore
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@Grahame595 жыл бұрын
A timeless garment and easy to see why they were favoured for wear post war by civilians (often but not necessarily ex-servicemen), in fact you could wear this today, especially in a rural area, and it wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. Many people seeing someone wearing one would not even be aware it was an ex-military jerkin.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, a very popular item and with good reason.
@derekcarroll7524 Жыл бұрын
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@Mat-kr1nf3 жыл бұрын
I used to have my grandfather’s from when he served in the Great War, in perfect condition, the leather was beautifully soft. I was absolutely gutted to learn my mother had got rid of it when I was living abroad. He served in Georgia, Greece and, I think, Albania.
@RiflemanMoore3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you lost it that way!
@tobiasbourne90733 жыл бұрын
My dad also has an original WW1 leather jerkin, they look brilliant. The reason some soldiers wore it underneath the SD tunic was because its original intention was that of to have it beneath the tunic, thus why it has no belt hooks nor epaulettes etc.
@oajh22525 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks for uploading! I remember my grandfather said had one in the 50s when he worked in the Clydebank shipyards!
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! It's very common to see them worn by all sorts of civilians working in heavy manual jobs post war, a favourite with bin men as hard wearing protective clothing.
@KTM-xz9qj3 жыл бұрын
My dad used one as a stone mason. In it's latter years it lost it's buttons and he held it shut with string. He swore blind it was warmer than a full coat when he was laying stone. When he passed away my brother inherited it. He's a bricklayer and it's still ticking in 2021.... Great vids and jogged some memories of my dad laying stone in the back garden wearing it.
@altaylor39884 жыл бұрын
1958/59 I wore one of these 'Ferkin' Jerkins when stationed at R.A.F. Debden, Essex. It was great for keeping the cutting Debden winds out so long as the wind front or back, BUT the if the wind was coming from the sides it would whistle through the large arm holes so we would block these arm holes by putting our hands in and interlinking fingers across our chest.
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the anecdote! Better than nothing but less than ideal then.
@altaylor39884 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore Hi Rifleman Moore, Most certainly 'far' better than nothing and there were many times later in Civvy St when I wished I had one particularly during the Winter of 1961/62.
@markbulmer4 жыл бұрын
Have a very clear photo in front of me right now of my grandfather wearing one during ww2. Thank you for this information. Much appreciated.
@deanstuart80125 жыл бұрын
We used the PVC version on in the Royal Observer Corps, although they were only issued to officially designated "Cold Weather Posts". During my time on such a post in the mid 80's we never used them, although they were issued. They seemed to be too stiff to be practical so we tended to use civilian coats while doing post set ups/close down on exercise and would sit in sleeping bags while underground. Well, any fool can be uncomfortable.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, interesting to know! It seems they were manufactured right into the 1970s, I have seen an example with the NSN included on the label and a '70s contract number.
@davidbrennan6604 жыл бұрын
I have the camouflage jerkin, the pattern was very subtle the leather very soft and smooth. I have an unlined Indian pattern one as well, it has very small buttons. The original WWI design was to be worn under the Service Dress as a body warmer I believe, hence the lack of pockets.... but as a practical garment it was worn as an outer garment commonly as pointed out.
@marcusmason34403 жыл бұрын
Been wearing one at work for years.........Its wearing better than I am........took this video for me to realize its army issue.
@zekehanscom58697 ай бұрын
Very nice video. Comprehensive.
@noelrigzvassonthomas Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed it. 👍🏻
@ogmoreboy4 жыл бұрын
I was issued one of these when in Germany (BAOR) late sixties, early seventies. They were a good piece of kit in those cold German winters where the winds used to blow from the Russian steppes! We also used to get our great coats cut down like the British warm (WW1) which was brilliant for drivers, always wondered if we would get in trouble for messing up our great coats!
@harryb89455 жыл бұрын
Once again a very informative video. I've got 50s leather one, with Swedish buttons I think. I've forgotten about it until seeing this.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
It might be Belgian, do the buttons bear a lion rampant? Glad you enjoyed the video!
@harryb89455 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore ah then in that case its Belgium. Although i think it has a crows foot.
@willwallacetree5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, enjoying all of your recent videos. Interesting to see that Wareings who made your Second War jerkin were based in Northampton, renowned as a centre of shoe manufacture, so there was likely to have been a lot of expertise in leatherwork locally.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
That would certainly make a lot of sense. Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@jameskellard50752 жыл бұрын
The recent green ones with mesh back were real leather not faux leather. They were intended for gunners, army air crew ground crew and loggies carrying awkward or heavy loads that were likely to damage the uniforms.
@heli-crewhgs52854 жыл бұрын
I bought a camouflage version. Now, I can't find it!
@dfostman60142 жыл бұрын
Thank you, well done vid. I've always thought the jerkin was a good garment and wondered about them. Appreciate the close up of the label and explanation about camo veersions.
@kraaidievoel15 күн бұрын
Great video Thank you
@TheGearhead2222 жыл бұрын
I bought a Walloon (Belgium) leather jerkin from the early 1950's and, aside from the wool lining ,is very comfortable and unique-John in Texas
@jjrider67583 жыл бұрын
Like yourself, I'm lucky enough to have both First and Second World War British Army leather jerkins in my collection, the Great War jerkin is pretty much identical to your example and the weave of the lining is exactly the same but the colour is a little darker. The only real difference is that the buttons are held on by way of a brown leather boot lace with a knot tied in it at the top which is then threaded down through the eyes of the buttons on the inside. This set up has clearly been undisturbed for a very long time and does have the look of the type of practical modification that would have been carried out by a soldier in the field. Depending on the pattern of split rings used it may have been done to stop them tangling with your tunic buttons beneath or snagging on the serge maybe ?.. Obviously the jerkin has had a very long (and possibly very eventful..) life and I can't be certain it was done during it's military service, all I can be sure of is that the modification certainly wasn't done yesterday.. or even the day before come to that ..
@residentoutdoors23034 жыл бұрын
Interesting video ..enjoyed watching.
@petermol60133 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I just bought one the other day that actually is in "next to new" condition. The label reads; W.M.Curwen &Co, January 1940. It has a lot of smaller leather pieces (8) at the lower part. The top button is red (!) but is the same shape and size as the other ones. Probably a replacement to make it more personal... How it has found it's way to Sweden I don't know but is has been taken very well care of.
@MichaelR585 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing !
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed.
@thehistoadian7 ай бұрын
At 2:15 you mention the Royal Corps of Sappers and Miners using similar Jerkins previous to the First World War, do you have any photos/illustrations of them? Extremely well done video!
@kevinjc702611 ай бұрын
Nice thanks
@AlexanderCooper13 жыл бұрын
I have sometimes worn in wintry conditions a Mascot shooting vest over my jacket (nylon quilted,polyester wadding, with suede leather patches). I wasn't aware of these issued jerkins but one can see how these items are related.
@jumbo12365 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed on the photo you are showing at 7:52 the two lads in the middle wearing the duck jerkin. With canvas instead of leather. At 7:59 the two lads at the back wearing one aswell i think.
@lib5565 жыл бұрын
Always wondered about the jerkins. How were they carried? Must be large bundle if rolled up and I don't believe I've ever seen them "stowed" on anyone's back.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware they weren't individual issue they were unit stores so when not wearing it you wouldn't be carrying it as an item of personal kit.
@BioSoulHumanoid2 жыл бұрын
hey, big thank you for all your useful informations in all your videos . i have a small question, i'm converting a 1950's belgian leather jerkin to use with my british ww2 reenacting gear but i dont know the sizes of the original british buttons in millimeters . i found a website selling very similar buttons to the original but i need to know the right size before ti can buy them. big thank you for your help :)
@laurentdevaux5617 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks a lot ! Just a few questions, hoping you'll have an answer : I had the chance to find a mint example of a camouflaged jerkin 20 years or so for a ridiculously cheap price, dated april 1942 (to be honest, there weren't so many French collectors of British militaria then). I've just checked it, and its label doesn't say it's a camouflaged one. It's a tan jerkin with olive green spots, but rather faint. So my question is : what was the reason the WD decided to make camouflaged jerkins ? And as they are far from having been generalized, was it a try or a normal type ? My other question is, was the jerkin part of the campaign uniform of each man, or was it only given to some units (we had something similar in the French army of the world wars, with sheepskin jerkins, and their distribution was rather complicated, though they were often given to what we called "corps francs", something like British commandos). And was it worn on order or at each man's will ?
@zaynevanbommel59834 жыл бұрын
dammit i have to subscribe to your channel its way too informative lol
@wisconsinkraut34456 ай бұрын
Honestly Ive been looking for one of these for camping use. Any recommendations for a reproductions that aren't to expensive and don't suck?
@jeremiahr7585 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know how far back in history this goes
@AirplaneDoctor_5 жыл бұрын
The modern zip up green ones are unlined,had a mesh back rather than solid, and are made of a thinner leather, not pvc.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I didn't realise they went back to real leather! As said they're beyong the scope of this video but might be something I'll cover in the future.
@long_chin_man3 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore i have both. one from my uncle alec. he treated the poor thing like rubbish. and the new green one. i have zero idea why the green one has a mesh back and theres zero information as to what its even for. i assume its for keeping your front torso waterproof in muddy wet conditions if you're lying down a lot. but thats it really
@dwj3883 жыл бұрын
@@long_chin_man issued to stop your combats getting ripped to buggery on barbed wire etc. Originally it was for CS95, which stood up to zero abuse.
@long_chin_man3 жыл бұрын
@@dwj388 so you wear it underneath your clothes? which layer would the jerkin be on?
@dwj3883 жыл бұрын
@@long_chin_man it was designed to go over your shirt (jacket lightweight). Very rare it was ever worn to be honest.
@user-mg6ir5jd7k2 жыл бұрын
What kind of material is the outer leather (horsehide?) and inner lining? Please let me know. Thank you.
@zaynevanbommel59834 жыл бұрын
Do you oil the Jerkin to keep the leather supple and not dried out ?
@ozdavemcgee20794 жыл бұрын
Great War example. Wear on lower left. I can make a dam good guess at hor that came about having had similar wear on jackets. My guess is post war use. I got similar wear from changing gears and pulling the handbrake on and off for hill starts in traffic, being heavy/overweight loads, in an old Bedford. Of course could well be war damage, a bloke carrying a toolbox, a gas mask worn there, a smoker reaching for a pip perhaps.
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
A good point, your explanation certainly fits!
@michaszymanski30662 жыл бұрын
Is there any supplier of quality replica leather jerkin that you could recommend?
@reneblacky2 жыл бұрын
There are camo ones just with only a black imprinted, I have one 41 made by Belmont. Not marked as camo in the tag
@GiorgiKhabeishvili5 жыл бұрын
Silvermans surplus sells a reproduction of WWII jerkin. have you seen it or know if its any good? thank you very much in advance!
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I have only seen it in photographs so I can't really attest to its quality.
@GiorgiKhabeishvili5 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore ok, thank you!
@jenniferwhite60895 жыл бұрын
awesome channel the first world jerkins has the buttons on the lift side than the second world war is on the right side
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! As you'll see in the video both jerkins button the same way.
@highdownmartin3 жыл бұрын
Still wear one.
@lukewebster19654 жыл бұрын
Where did you get you’re polo shirt from love the vids
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We had them made for the group I'm part of.
@mattmagee1805 жыл бұрын
I have a 1950's dated PVC jerkin in my collection
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Indeed they seem to come in around the mid 1950s.
@mattmagee1805 жыл бұрын
Ive worn it a couple of times on displays and it works reasonably well, unless a wind appears and it has a somewhat opposite effect.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Ah, are you using it for WW2 reenacting?
@jackofswords74 жыл бұрын
I was a Sapper and had a PVC jerkin which I wore into the 80s. But I can tell you now they were not nearly as good as the leather ones. In fact, they were pretty useless as they didn't achieve the suppleness of the older leather ones. They had long since stopped being issued when I swapped mine for a cut-down Karki greatcoat.
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear of you wearing a PVC jerkin into the 1980s. When were they last issued?
@wor53lg50 Жыл бұрын
Its a wonder you wasnt put on report if you was a sapper, and you didnt wear it, is a bloody good job you didnt set anything of with static, its why artilley men in ww1, bomb armourers and sappers had to wear them..thats untill less conductive fabric was used...
@jackofswords7 Жыл бұрын
@@wor53lg50 In a working Sapper unit you didn't get put on report for what you wore (within reason) when working but what you did or didn't do when you should or should not have. Work was not a parade.
@jackofswords7 Жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore In the 70's I think but don't quote me.
@colinfenmore92813 жыл бұрын
where do I purchase a WW2 jerkin reproduction?
@wor53lg50 Жыл бұрын
Jerkins had no reason to be on a infantry man in ww2 its was one of those fashion statements that was functional against cold aswell as looked cool, they are for artillery men in ww1, or for bomber armourers or sensitive radar installers in ww2, the reason is it lessons static, as with ww1 shells oftern would be wiped across the chest heaving them to the breach, wool creates static,static creates electric, electric creates spark and the rest is history...
@Emchisti5 жыл бұрын
Ever seen an original duck canvas one Simon?
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, I believe they were very much a Great War expedient, being declared obsolete in the 1920s. There are some excellent photos of an example on the Great War Forum.
@Emchisti5 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore I've got photos of a 1939 example and photos in use in the Phoney War. I'll fire them over to you.
@RiflemanMoore5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I might be thinking of a different garment, I was thinking of the Great War twill version.
@Zurgo-fl1kx4 жыл бұрын
Something interesting I heard was that they were used to help slide across the mud, fact or fake?
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard that one before.
@Zurgo-fl1kx4 жыл бұрын
@@RiflemanMoore I guess it knda makes sense because the smooth leather would be better than the wool for keeping dry while lying prone.
@garysimpson7776 Жыл бұрын
Any evidence of airborne troops wearing them?
@rogerborg3 жыл бұрын
Reading from a book written by a better man, has never known the touch of a woman.
@RiflemanMoore3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an unfortunate fellow.
@michaelpiggott71963 жыл бұрын
Why are they called Jerkings and why do they not have arms ,
@RiflemanMoore3 жыл бұрын
Jerkins, not jerkings. The lack of sleeves gves freedom of movement. I would recommend searching online for the etymology of the word.
@WarblesOnALot4 жыл бұрын
G'day, Ah, yuss..., thus be the Officially-issued Government Uniform Article of Apparel ; intended with which to dress, or clothe, a Jerk in... (hence the name - a "Jerk(er)" being synonymous with a"Wank(er)", a "Toss(er)", or a "Grind(er)". lol. Such is Life. Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao!
@RiflemanMoore4 жыл бұрын
Most illuminating!
@couchcamperTM4 жыл бұрын
they wore leather and fur but called the biggest civilisation "huns". pathetic.
@41923622 жыл бұрын
you do realise the germans had packs made of cow hide, leather boots and uniforms made of wool…..