British Railways: Goodbye To Steam aka Railway Modernisation (1958) | British Pathé

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@robertneave2669
@robertneave2669 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for these British Pathe short films - a priceless window on the past aren't they? I have a few compilation DVDs of these - fantastic! Keep Smiling Everyone 😃
@keithlemon457
@keithlemon457 3 жыл бұрын
And 6 years later Beeching cut the heart out the entire railway system, the impact of which is still being felt today, nearly 60 years later.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Could be worse CIE was made to pay for being loss making note there is no money in public transport
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 2 жыл бұрын
beeching cut nothing, it was the labour party that closed the lines
@michaelhunt4445
@michaelhunt4445 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobtudbury8505 It was E. Marples (a road maker) who commissioned the Beeching report so although you may be technically right, it was the Tory party who started the ball rolling.
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhunt4445 zzzz yes we know .to create a report .BR could not even tell you how many staff it empolyed, something had to happen. (i'm glad the roads were built, the car gave me and my family total independant travel and freedom like you enjoy today. ) when the report was complete labour did not close all on beechings report but did close hundreds of miles not in there!!! ....after the culling ( the torys stopped it in 1970) labour then gave beeching an award....the whole thing was labour, no one else
@richardsawyer5428
@richardsawyer5428 2 жыл бұрын
From what I seen and heard I feel that Beeching was just a fig leaf to cover what was already decided. The manipulation of statistics and "research" to give those that commission his report what they wanted to hear. A "Beeching" in some guise has probably existed since ancient times.
@joshuaslocombe6087
@joshuaslocombe6087 9 жыл бұрын
1:53 THAT IS CLEARLY AN ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVE!
@kennztube
@kennztube 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Slocombe no it was duel powered loco, if you look closely the wasn’t a pantograph line.
@MajesticTrains
@MajesticTrains 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennztube its not, its an 1500v EM2 electric locomotive built for the woodhead route. Its fully electric. There has been some kind of mistake in the film there.
@RoadCone411
@RoadCone411 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Brickley Majestic is correct. I don’t believe they had dual mode electric-diesels back then but either way those are Woodhead electrics.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@MajesticTrains agreed! Pure DC power there....
@Andrea.583
@Andrea.583 4 жыл бұрын
@@MajesticTrains 27000 can still be seen at Butterley and one of her sisters is in occasional use in The Netherlands.
@robertpetts9482
@robertpetts9482 4 жыл бұрын
In 1958 I was working at English Electric and may well be in part of the film, where they were winding armatures.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, man.if you were there, you’d remember
@johnsplayworld2402
@johnsplayworld2402 4 жыл бұрын
You used to work in the railway about the starting of diesels in the age of 20?
@johnsplayworld2402
@johnsplayworld2402 4 жыл бұрын
1958?
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
If he did work at English electric it would be working in an engineering firm not the railway.
@richarddutchholland4780
@richarddutchholland4780 4 жыл бұрын
My dad left school as a 15 year old boy and he joined GWR as a fireman out of Cardiff.... It broke his heart when they phase out steam. He had the chance to go to South Africa with the driver, they were looking for drivers and firemen to emigrate, but he stayed home and left the rails for good
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
Wow so your dad is a fireman in a steam locomotives
@TankEngine75
@TankEngine75 3 жыл бұрын
Your dad could've just volunteered on a Heritage Railway
@richarddutchholland4780
@richarddutchholland4780 3 жыл бұрын
@@TankEngine75 I believe heritage railways came much later after the demise of steam. He went to work in Staffordshire with his dad (my grandfather)
@TankEngine75
@TankEngine75 3 жыл бұрын
@@richarddutchholland4780 Nice
@rmgilyard
@rmgilyard 2 жыл бұрын
Why does he not like diesels?
@CullenRick
@CullenRick 3 жыл бұрын
As others have said, I loved them talking about diesels while showing an electic!
@qmsarge
@qmsarge 9 жыл бұрын
At 2:10 a train is shown as to be leaving with "Diesel Locomotive". But it does seems to have pantographs and looks like an Electric locomotive.
@barrymorris7856
@barrymorris7856 9 жыл бұрын
+Sachin Perinthalakkat You`re correct . It`s a BR Class 77 ....
@Garbageguitarist
@Garbageguitarist 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a dual powered loco I think
@iainstenhouse8399
@iainstenhouse8399 4 жыл бұрын
@@Garbageguitarist No DC only
@MrJhonnyJackson
@MrJhonnyJackson 4 жыл бұрын
Try to listen to what he says before commenting. The diesel engines power a dynamo that creates electricity that runs the locomotive
@iainstenhouse8399
@iainstenhouse8399 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrJhonnyJackson we are referring to the engine shown at the specific timestamp, which is not a diesel-electric locomotive, rather a 1500v DC Electric locomotive (Class 77).
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын
"No smoke", he says at 4:26. Not if you were sitting in that buffet car with that table of vicars. And "no smoke" referring to DMUs must raise a wry smile.
@lawrencelewis8105
@lawrencelewis8105 3 жыл бұрын
I was at a patio at the end of the Gloucestershire and Warwickshire heritage railway a few years ago. There were "no smoking" signs on the patio. Less than ten feet away was the turntable where the steam locomotives were turned around.
@ncs8730
@ncs8730 6 ай бұрын
Relatively. Relatively, as everything is.
@superbracey
@superbracey 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't around for the steam age. But despite the romanticism for the era, I bet a lot of drivers were happy to give up standing on an open, draughty footplate, to instead sit in enclosed comfort, with relative quiet and heating controls at their fingertips.
@ncs8730
@ncs8730 6 ай бұрын
You are right, that's the difference between steam locos fans and drivers. Yet I love steam. (yeah I'm not a driver :)) )
@TheHatMusic
@TheHatMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the carriage at 5:32 is now preserved on the Severn Valley, and was intended to rival the airline industry for commuter travel between major cities. The seating was built to the same sort of style. Shame they didn't catch on really, they're pretty comfortable.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
They look interesting
@TheHatMusic
@TheHatMusic Жыл бұрын
@@hoolydooly5072 well, no. I did not. And I did not help preserve that carriage, I simply pointed out that is has been preserved. Those carriages could be hauled by diesel or electric locomotives, so they would simply be comfortable carriages. I don’t see why you have decided that I am somehow to blame for climate change given that I was born almost 30 years after this video. I’d quote some figures on how negligible the heritage rail sector is to climate change (and there is a lot of information on this), but I don’t expect you want to know. Yes, steam locomotives did cause pollution. As did the large amount of coal burned in industry. Yes, coal dust does get into everything. It’s filthy and sticks like nothing else. But, it did come to an end, and the railways are a lot cleaner now. But to decide I’m somehow to blame for them being preserved is absurd. You picked up a comment I wrote 3 years ago, and have chosen to have a go at me for it. There has to be a better use of your time, surely?
@binbagful
@binbagful 6 жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh. 1958 and the aim is to make British Railways the best in the world. What went wrong then?.
@nathanlucas6465
@nathanlucas6465 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what the guys working on the 'improvements' back then would think of where we've got to today
@zeeteavathepipe3184
@zeeteavathepipe3184 5 жыл бұрын
The Germans and the French and even the Italians managed to make better rail transport.
@stevenbanaan
@stevenbanaan 5 жыл бұрын
the fact that no one bothered to make high speed lines to and from economically vital cities. for example: in japan the shinkhansen high speed trains fixed the economy.
@MarioStahl1983
@MarioStahl1983 5 жыл бұрын
Very easy: Instead of electrification most lines were dieselized. A historic mistake AND THEY KNEW IT!! They simply didn't care.
@DisleyDavid
@DisleyDavid 4 жыл бұрын
binbagful Arguably British Rail was as good as the best in Europe when the Government sold off the system. If investment had continued rather than giving the money to foreign operators.
@anilchauisms
@anilchauisms 8 жыл бұрын
Steam - dirty and inefficient - but so romantic!
@JOYOUSONEX
@JOYOUSONEX 4 жыл бұрын
Agree totally. The steam blasting in your face, the smell of the coal generated smoke, the roar of that noisy engine are memories that I shall never forget.
@who9387
@who9387 4 жыл бұрын
@@JOYOUSONEX Grew up in the 50's - the glorious age of steam !! WTF ? Don't people realise that every time the train went uner a railway bridge all the "steam" aka dirty choking soot filled the carriage and I remember every time there was a tunnel someone would leap up and shut the windows. While I appreciate the nostalgia when seeing one in the distance now with the smoke billowing out, was a bleeding nightmare to travel in. You only had to take a short journey for your clothes to smell of the smoke.
@jonathanj.7344
@jonathanj.7344 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the "clickety-click, "clickety-click "clickety-click" and watching the looping telegraph wires out of the window. i wasn't very old at the time.
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 4 жыл бұрын
@ Who ? Exactly. Most large underground stations like Grand Central in NYC were electrified and used electric locomotives because venting all of that soot, smoke, and steam would be impractical. It’s Hollywood smoke machines that make it seem romantic.
@who9387
@who9387 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanj.7344 The clickety-click went out with continuous welded rails, was far too easy to nod off with that constant rhythm.
@steamfans
@steamfans 9 жыл бұрын
A problem with coal burning steam locomotives was the smoke they added to smog, a word coined by a London newspaper. Newcastle coal was very dirty (high sulfur content)
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 4 жыл бұрын
Mixed with an incoming thick fog. Hence “ Smog”
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
No they will emstead use charcoal or scrap wood or paper
@catthecommentbothunter6890
@catthecommentbothunter6890 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you hate steam drilling oil under the sea and damaging wild life so if i have a railway i will choice the steam that that stupid deisels
@herzikkimolog
@herzikkimolog 3 жыл бұрын
@@catthecommentbothunter6890 i wouldnt say that, while burning coal is highly pollutive for atmosphere. Diesel locos are preferred for being more powerful, efficient and time saving
@catthecommentbothunter6890
@catthecommentbothunter6890 3 жыл бұрын
@@herzikkimolog yeah yeah diesels can have smoke to and can have more carbon dioxide so shut up Diesel entusiats because diesel locomotive is dirty,oily and ineffcient
@waleedarif6740
@waleedarif6740 3 жыл бұрын
British Railways is much better now but it will never be as stylish, colourful, tasteful and popular as it once was.
@robharding4028
@robharding4028 3 жыл бұрын
The crime of the century, There was something magical about steam. We should have kept it, and got rid of beecham,
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives Жыл бұрын
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@ncs8730
@ncs8730 6 ай бұрын
"Dwight D. Eisenhower"! I tried to find it out but in vain. Thanks!
@brianhepke7182
@brianhepke7182 7 ай бұрын
What a great piece of history. A pity the railways didn't live up to the narrators vision of "best in the world" all these years later. It was pretty obvious that steam wouldn't have survived much longer after this was made. To maintain and run a steam locomotive is a labour of love. The drivers were passionate and proud of their positions on the footplate.... dedicated to their profession. Watching from the sidelines today it seems they have to be coerced into doing the job. No regard for passengers who support the railways, only their pay packets.
@MikeGMcDermott
@MikeGMcDermott 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the BR Southern Region's third rail lines in the South of England, the Manchester to Sheffield (via Woodhead) line was the first all-electric main line when it was electrified at 1,500v DC overhead wires in 1954. Sadly the Woodhead line was to be host to its last passenger train in 1970, with the line closing to coal and other freight trains in 1981. Technology had moved on, more so as from 1959 all UK lines to be electrified with overhead wiring were to be electrified with the 25kV AC system, something which BR insisted was impractical for the Woodhead line.
@herzglass
@herzglass 7 ай бұрын
Everybody talking about the Diesel-Electric mixup - I found 4:24 even more amusing. "No smoke, no dirt." while the whole compartment is smoking cigarettes.
@gerry343
@gerry343 5 жыл бұрын
4:25 'More tea, vicar?'
@landmarkrealtors3278
@landmarkrealtors3278 Жыл бұрын
Yet another nice video from British Pathe 👍
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 10 жыл бұрын
The "Diesel" at 1:58 is not a diesel at all but an ex LNER Sheffield - Woodhead - Manchester electrification project 1500DC Co'Co' electric loco of the E27000 Class later reclassed 77 by BR and the entire class later still sold to Netherlands Railways NS and reclassed 1500. The overhead equipment can clearly be seen in the shot of the train entering the tunnel (2:20). So this is wrong: CU New diesel engine. CU Sir Brian Robertson talking to train driver. CU People watching. CU Sir Brian Robertson blowing whistle. CU Int. diesel engine with driver operating controls. SV Diesel train moving out of station. CU Driver of diesel train. CU. Sir Brian Robertson sitting in carriage. LV Through window of diesel cab as train enters tunnel.
@noyoureafuckintube
@noyoureafuckintube 5 жыл бұрын
CU nts!
@likklej8
@likklej8 4 жыл бұрын
Marcomanseckisax reopen the Woodhead Tunnel says I
@shielahowcroft9852
@shielahowcroft9852 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a steam loco driver at Ninivah loco shed Holbeck leeds drove a steam loco from skipton to Carlisle with a delicious engine on the back to see if they could make it up the steep inclines.there was a French loco newspaper reporter on the foot plate
@medwaymodelrailway7129
@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 жыл бұрын
Great new video .Thanks very much.
@stotheh
@stotheh 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I hope those aerial phots are archived and accessible somewhere. What a trove!
@androo4519
@androo4519 8 ай бұрын
'The aim is to make British Railways the best in the world.' That went well then.
@Reddsoldier
@Reddsoldier 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that the locomotives that this programme created are still cutting about today in one form or another.
@rshvkkt91
@rshvkkt91 4 жыл бұрын
And then came the Beeching Axe.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын
York PSB was an amazing piece of late 1940s technology, but it's a bit rich to claim it at part of BR's modernization scheme since it was built by the LNER and commissioned about 1948, when BR had only just come into being,
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
3:37 First two mainline diesel locos and they eventually got scrapped themselves. They're also building a replica of 10000.
@Shark30006
@Shark30006 8 ай бұрын
It was anticipated that mainline steam would continue to see operations until as late as the 1990s and the very latest
@Masire0009
@Masire0009 4 жыл бұрын
Steam trains are by far the best but I will admit the early diesels are pretty cool..
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah like the British Rail 11001 diesel locomotive the wheels are like in the steam locomotives but power by Diesel
@bennickss
@bennickss 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephStalin-hv8en are you referring to 10100, the 4-8-4 diesel locomotive built in 1950?
@pizzaplanettruck9761
@pizzaplanettruck9761 Жыл бұрын
​@@bennickss You could say that about both really.
@lennoxschannel7484
@lennoxschannel7484 Жыл бұрын
Both of them are the best!!!!
@louisholmes6961
@louisholmes6961 Жыл бұрын
The steam engines of Sodor didn’t have to worry about being replaced, even when diesels joined their workforce. However they felt sorry for their mainland cousins, especially Gordon, who lost his brothers to scrap..except for one.
@itzmespencer
@itzmespencer Жыл бұрын
Lol Sodor is in another universe
@louisholmes6961
@louisholmes6961 Жыл бұрын
@@itzmespencer hey, don’t judge me just because I’m a fan of a famous franchise.
@chugwaterjack4458
@chugwaterjack4458 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps one of the challenges was the inability to distinguish between diesel and electric locos? See 2:00-2:15
@PhilPage227
@PhilPage227 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it.
@jasonl5967
@jasonl5967 9 жыл бұрын
and what happened to some of the BR network, routes were closed and tracks dug up.
@kennztube
@kennztube 4 жыл бұрын
jason long mr Beeching happened.
@MikeWillSee
@MikeWillSee 27 күн бұрын
3:40 "And eventually the mainlines will be electrified" Here we are in 2024 and somehow we still have several major intercity routes which are lacking electrification...
@dniwu3878
@dniwu3878 2 жыл бұрын
4:29 on on on!
@ALCO-C855-fan
@ALCO-C855-fan 11 ай бұрын
Aimed for the best but became the worst. A shame.😔 Well atleast we got the memories.😊
@Don_Camillo
@Don_Camillo 4 жыл бұрын
2:27 : The role model for the Hogwarts Express 😁
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me?
@Vinyl_guy
@Vinyl_guy 3 жыл бұрын
i believe they are referring to the fact that is it is a gwr hall class
@bennickss
@bennickss 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vinyl_guy it’s not, it’s a king class, you can tell by the four cylinders and enormous boiler
@amp9930
@amp9930 3 жыл бұрын
What locomotive is this being fuelled on the left? 5:57 All the louvres/vents in the middle are missing?
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the Southern diesels 10201/2/3.
@amp9930
@amp9930 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndreiTupolev- Thank you, I had a feeling it was one of those but from that angle and with the large holes I wasn't sure. That makes this quite the unique footage then as I can't remember seeing them on film before.
@stephenbennett3126
@stephenbennett3126 4 жыл бұрын
awesome film.
@VRDenshaOtaku
@VRDenshaOtaku 9 жыл бұрын
at 5:37 the VR did that with the B class in 1951
@EE12CSVT
@EE12CSVT Жыл бұрын
Well, the first 'diesel engine' they featured was electric, from the Woodhead line
@bigmanted9864
@bigmanted9864 Жыл бұрын
3:43 “eventually the mainlines will be electrified” Meanwhile the midland lads waiting for electrification in 2023:
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 4 жыл бұрын
The British made some of the most beautiful steam engines in the world. Than turn a 180° and make some of the ugliest diesels. I do think the Deltic is a very good looking locomotive
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite is the delightful Mallard series of steam locomotives
@bennickss
@bennickss 3 жыл бұрын
‘Ugliest’ *cries in 20, 35, 37, 40, 44/45/46
@rmgilyard
@rmgilyard 2 жыл бұрын
How are diesel Engines ugly?
@x-fun3149
@x-fun3149 2 жыл бұрын
@@rmgilyard they all look like knobs of butter
@lennoxschannel7484
@lennoxschannel7484 Жыл бұрын
@@x-fun3149 How?
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 9 жыл бұрын
Look at the former steam railwaymen running the diesel locomotives. Sad, isn't it?
@snesman3768
@snesman3768 5 жыл бұрын
Not really! 10000 was far better than any kettle in regards of efficiency and driver comfort, let alone paving the way for future british diesel and electric designs.
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
@@snesman3768 In the future Diesels will be cut for scrap with shears and torches and electric and hydrogen power will take over.
@snesman3768
@snesman3768 5 жыл бұрын
@@PreservationEnthusiast Ok, but what has that got to do with the LMS twins? I just stated that a diesel loco from the 1940's was superior in terms of efficiency & driver comfort to steam locos of the era. You seem a bit thick for a troll. I'm sure you've got better things to do than prowl around youtube comments trying to mildly irritate people.
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
@@snesman3768 I don't know why you keep bringing up the 10,000 class. It was a very early underpowered and polluting diesel. One was ripped apart with cutting torches at Cashmores in 1963, the other disposed of in 1966. All scrap was sent for melting down and recycling. They were chopped before even steam locos were finished with!
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
@@snesman3768 If you would like to see 10,001 being cut to pieces at Cox and Dank's yard: facebook.com/LMS10000/photos/pcb.2019581194804904/2007997156171561/?type=3&theater Great cutting action!
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын
That commentary is decidedly economical with the truth. "The big diesel engines are gradually replacing the steam loco." This was 1958, when the D200s were first being introduced. Nice clips of 10000/10001 though.
@JasonBlueberry129
@JasonBlueberry129 6 жыл бұрын
4:57 its emilys brother stirling number 1
@caledoniansignalman8153
@caledoniansignalman8153 5 жыл бұрын
“Brother” you mean sister because every locomotive and boat and car is considered a “she” for some reason
@RFFSA_SR7
@RFFSA_SR7 4 жыл бұрын
@@caledoniansignalman8153 *Actually no, you are tremendous wrong.*
@Charles-cl7qd
@Charles-cl7qd 4 жыл бұрын
his comment is fairly accurate I'm afraid
@thomaspanditfan2435
@thomaspanditfan2435 3 жыл бұрын
@@caledoniansignalman8153 I believe in the books this particular engine was a brother. So in that way he is refering to it as a brother.
@bennickss
@bennickss 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not, it’s her basis, I hate anyone who says ‘omg it’s (thomas character)/(thomas character’s sibling) while referring to their basis, I wish thomas stayed as books and nothing else
@charlesgault3777
@charlesgault3777 5 жыл бұрын
Nowadays they use drones in place of airplanes for surveying projects.
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
Drones were invented in 1935
@kenet71
@kenet71 4 жыл бұрын
Goodbye Thomas, goodbye Gordon, goodbye Henry, goodbye Edward, goodbye James. Goodbye Percy. WHAAA 😭
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 4 жыл бұрын
“No more steamies!”, oiled Diesel.
@catthecommentbothunter6890
@catthecommentbothunter6890 3 жыл бұрын
All the E2 tank engine where scrap no one is survive
@bennickss
@bennickss 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, not a single E2, k2, black 5, Gresley A3, L&YR class 28 or GWR saddle tank were shown in this video
@rmgilyard
@rmgilyard 2 жыл бұрын
Derek, Daisy, Salty, BoCo, Paxton, Mavis: Oh don’t cry, it’s not the Edna of steam.
@РиммаАвазова
@РиммаАвазова Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but it would have happened sooner or later. Someone will be sent for scrap, a landfill, another city, to a country, they will be sold to some railways, somewhere they will rot in forests, fields or reservoirs. Lucky for those who are restored and sent to museums. Perhaps some will be kept and they can work to this day, but it will not be what it used to be. Imagine modern Sodor like this, you will be sad and hurt, right?
@martm216
@martm216 4 жыл бұрын
They were going 'full steam ahead' with electrification'! Mind, I think that might have been a deliberate pun.
@asolurs
@asolurs 3 жыл бұрын
at 3:04 you can hear Thomas The Tank Engines whistle !
@catthecommentbothunter6890
@catthecommentbothunter6890 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes maybe Rev W awdry copy the wistle sound from the british pathe
@asolurs
@asolurs 3 жыл бұрын
@@catthecommentbothunter6890 most likely Christopher Awdry !
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 3 жыл бұрын
solurs It's high-pitched
@Isochest
@Isochest 5 жыл бұрын
Actually steam coped well and the present modes are not that much better final speed wise.
@allangreenley9901
@allangreenley9901 4 жыл бұрын
Less hard work shovelling coal and one driver cleaner .press a button and drive off no waiting for stem to build up or lightning fires
@allangreenley9901
@allangreenley9901 4 жыл бұрын
@Ward Studios well thought out .I just think too hard work for shovelling coal in this day and age.dirty sweaty work and little reward. Non stop in a express train
@arkadiuszgremza5963
@arkadiuszgremza5963 4 жыл бұрын
@Ward Studios Such a device (mechanical stoker) has actually existed for a long time and was used on biggest locomotives, mostly in US. There was still potential for improvement in steam locos at the time, but diesel/electric ones simply turned out much cheaper.
@mikemancini313
@mikemancini313 4 жыл бұрын
@Ward Studios Rip
@mikemancini313
@mikemancini313 4 жыл бұрын
@Ward Studios Not for the atmosphere.
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 3 жыл бұрын
And to think that the class 9f were destined to be in commission as recently as the late 1980s
@swiftymorgan5064
@swiftymorgan5064 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u Жыл бұрын
Title : Goodbye to steam jinty and pug : We ain't dead
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
They're fictional
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u Жыл бұрын
@@florjanbrudar692 what do you mean?
@Tachikawa_2006
@Tachikawa_2006 Жыл бұрын
​@@florjanbrudar692They are real, not fictional. Do your own research
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u Ай бұрын
Update : ok why was i so dumb ​@@Tachikawa_2006
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel just press in the button your ready to go Robber be like wow thats nice😂😂
@rmgilyard
@rmgilyard 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that supposed to mean?
@CyrusInIndia
@CyrusInIndia 6 жыл бұрын
But there are still so many steam locomotives operational in UK.
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
@Singapore Pearl Most of the steam locomotives were chopped to pieces with cutting torches and melted down and recycled. There are a handful left in museums and short lines which run occasional tourist services.
@lachlanstephens4168
@lachlanstephens4168 5 жыл бұрын
They have been restored or left to rust
@philipkay8116
@philipkay8116 8 ай бұрын
Keeps on about diesel locomotives whilst showing a new class 77 over the new Woodhead route.
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
If steam engines dirty and hard to operate because coal is expensive why just use dead wood
@Cromwelldunbar
@Cromwelldunbar Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, the dialogue spouts forth on the merits of « diésélisation » yet the supporting photo script is of an electric locomotive including the cab working! That said I still think more ought to be said about « The Big Four » as such and « what happened to them » what did they ie the Big Four think of nationalisation…and in detail!
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 8 ай бұрын
'Best in the World'? Not then or now. Probably not ever. (But top 10, perhaps.)
@MeisterKiel
@MeisterKiel 2 жыл бұрын
Ich mag diese alten Dokus
@muhammadmeharmangi4562
@muhammadmeharmangi4562 10 ай бұрын
It is still better then our railway today 2024,
@ncs8730
@ncs8730 6 ай бұрын
2:07 what A4 is it? Poor quality of the film doesn't let to see. Interesting how something, that was met proudly as the modern and the best in the past, becomes ordinary and dull decades after. Diesel locomotives will possibly be seen as an object of worship too, but they lack the charm steam locos have.
@Usa1293-s2k
@Usa1293-s2k 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@johnny5805
@johnny5805 5 ай бұрын
"To turn British Railways into the best in the world !". How'd that turn out then ?
@shielahowcroft9852
@shielahowcroft9852 3 жыл бұрын
Apologies it should read Deltic engine
@rossspenser8314
@rossspenser8314 4 ай бұрын
Well it's not the best now
@billsalvey
@billsalvey 9 жыл бұрын
it also means job cuts too.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 4 жыл бұрын
ALL TECH removes jobs. Especially. The Shitcunt Ones. Always something new to play with. And we won’t die of black lung.
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
Correct because those steam loco driver dont know how to drive diesel loco
@spongebobgrumpypants6862
@spongebobgrumpypants6862 10 ай бұрын
I'm extremely disappointed at the lack of diversity in these pictures. Shame on you British Pathe, and indeed British Rail...................
@davidmonro3270
@davidmonro3270 3 ай бұрын
Now it is hello to steam. From recent developments diesel is too dirty and the thinking is back to steam. A friend of mine Ted Pritchard, designed and built the lowest emission engine in the world over fifty years ago It was a steamer. Took it to America, demonstrated it successfully to Senators and the vehicle industry. They didn't want it. I could be excused for believing the govt. doesn't run the country over there and when it came back to Australia the reception was much the same. We are just as stupid. The steam locomotives he had in mind would come in around 6,000 H.P. where now loads of 35,000 tons are being moved. Diesels are dead.
@rossspenser8314
@rossspenser8314 4 ай бұрын
And still runs late
@theflyinghamster8442
@theflyinghamster8442 5 жыл бұрын
Bring back steam!!!!!!
@will_levitt926
@will_levitt926 4 жыл бұрын
Diesels should get scrapped
@conor-rants-about-stuff
@conor-rants-about-stuff 4 жыл бұрын
It's protest time
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
If coal was dirty use paper we have the biggest problem of paper waste so use it as a burning fuel for steam and diesel smokes make me sick
@JosephStalin-hv8en
@JosephStalin-hv8en 4 жыл бұрын
@@will_levitt926 scrap metal is cheap now a days they should be melted into large furnace and make steam locomotives
@whossean
@whossean 3 жыл бұрын
they're on the island of sodor, don't worry
@oldmate3152
@oldmate3152 Жыл бұрын
1:10 yeah he looks pretty bored 🤣
@kennztube
@kennztube 4 жыл бұрын
“Most men these days understand motor cars , ah really, and therefore understand what about diesel locos?”
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
how the internal combustion engine worked i assume? Cars were a much simpler beast in those days......
@trainknut
@trainknut 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between a GM car and an EMD 645 engine is pretty much just size... Which makes sense, because GM owns EMD.
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u
@Fnftctxtczyuw2u Ай бұрын
Now its just box machines with oils and keys.
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 Жыл бұрын
They were still building steam till 1961.
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
1961? BR Standard Class 9F 92220 Evening Star was the last steam locomotive built in March 1960
@rossspenser8314
@rossspenser8314 Жыл бұрын
We ended up the worst in the world even after private
@Markman4205
@Markman4205 5 ай бұрын
I really did not like the i dont really love the modernisation, it made the grand steam workhorses of the railway to oily boxy diesel locomotives, steam engines gave more of a fancier and cleaner look than the modern diesels
@williamcaldwell-smith3865
@williamcaldwell-smith3865 10 ай бұрын
The British government wanted to make British rail the best in the world now it's the worst in the world, well western world and the most expensive
@warwicktregurtha4198
@warwicktregurtha4198 Жыл бұрын
Bit ironic watching it in late May 2023.
@mattipolarbear6739
@mattipolarbear6739 2 жыл бұрын
RIP steam locomotives
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 жыл бұрын
"Goodbye to steam" Bruh wait till 1960
@joesprinter8202
@joesprinter8202 10 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that the bloke doing the talking hasn't done his homework. If this is what we're up against, god help us.
@jackwalker9100
@jackwalker9100 5 жыл бұрын
The bloke doing the commentary is typical of the public school educated tossers still running the country today. They might not speak with the same stupid accent, but they still don't have a bloody clue what they're talking about - as evidenced by his describing the advantages of diesel traction over steam... while a 1500 vdc electric is being shown.
@steveluckhurst2350
@steveluckhurst2350 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackwalker9100 Do you not think that he may be reading a script? I have a feeling it's Bob Danvers - Walker, who was bought up and educated in Australia. So that sort of ruins your theory doesn't it !
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
@@steveluckhurst2350 Yes it's Bob Danvers-Walker
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 3 жыл бұрын
'The best in the World'? Sorry old boy.
@mpedward2
@mpedward2 8 ай бұрын
Sad
@nickybritain4900
@nickybritain4900 3 жыл бұрын
Was this the beginning of increased unemployment? Less people needed to operate these trains, more people out of work, saves money for BR, but costs in other ways!
@mickclay-vx1sx
@mickclay-vx1sx Жыл бұрын
Best thing they ever did , cut them up for scrap
@MintuChamua
@MintuChamua 5 күн бұрын
❤uk
@superstepno835
@superstepno835 Жыл бұрын
Steam engines goes to the fat controller’s railway
@keithdeley7236
@keithdeley7236 Жыл бұрын
The best in the world what happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@trainrover
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
those couple of swivel seats look American
@thehumancanary131
@thehumancanary131 8 күн бұрын
So...China has built 40,000 kilometres of hi-speed rail.....Britain spat the dummy at 100 kilometres...😂😂😂
@garyt6747
@garyt6747 3 жыл бұрын
Fillum
@daviddalby9699
@daviddalby9699 3 жыл бұрын
All Mason's
@Hogger280
@Hogger280 Жыл бұрын
Great Propaganda Film!
@jamescollier847
@jamescollier847 3 жыл бұрын
Propaganda!
@someshwarroy52
@someshwarroy52 2 ай бұрын
All rubbish, they boast a lot, but the output is not that much
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