ok, non destructive editing is something that's been missing from gimp for years now, it's good to finally have it
@breadmoth64434 сағат бұрын
and in 20 years, there will be GIMP 4 on GTK4 and GTK will be on version 9 or something.
@quaesitrix8813 сағат бұрын
🤣
@sleepib2 сағат бұрын
FreeCAD is in a similar position right now. Just hit RC4, and the last 1.0 milestone issue was closed yesterday.
@MisakaMikotoDesu4 сағат бұрын
I've been using it for the last year or so. It's been great. Much better than the old GIMP. Still not photoshop, but at least it's a bit nicer to use than it was before.
@derzimtraucher97483 сағат бұрын
As long as GIMP is not getting a major UI rework, it is going to stay in it's niche. It's kinda in the same situation as Blender was prior to 2.8. The UI is terribly unintuitive and cluttered and the GTK3 rewrite has not changed anything about that.
@SimisearOfficial3 сағат бұрын
Agreed, if GIMP’s UI is overhauled and even if its just a direct clone of early Photoshop I’d say it’s a massive improvement
@nobodyimportant78042 сағат бұрын
It is always going to be niche because it isn't even the best free image program on the other platforms.
@enemixius2 сағат бұрын
I'm not really sure about that. The way GTK-based UI design has been going, it would probably end up being a horrible mess.
@autumn_leaves10112 сағат бұрын
they said theyre planning to build a team of designers to improve the UI of gimp after 3.0 releases so at the very least they finally aknowledged the problems with the UI design of this thing
@BrodieRobertson2 сағат бұрын
IMO the GIMP UI is such a low priority compared to the feature set that editors like Photoshop offer nowadays, I'd much rather see effort focused on improving functionality first
@darukutsu4 сағат бұрын
so this is why gta6 was delayed
@TheKodeToad4 сағат бұрын
GTK 4 in GIMP 4?
@softwarelivre23894 сағат бұрын
2035 maybe
@gideonsteward933 сағат бұрын
@@softwarelivre2389 right
@enemixius2 сағат бұрын
Hopefully never.
@Silikone2 сағат бұрын
@@enemixius Why? GTK4 has inbuilt color management, which is something that is generally crucial for an image editor.
@BrodieRobertson2 сағат бұрын
I'd be curious to see what happens there or if it continues down an offshoot of GTK 3
@luizansounds4 сағат бұрын
Im genuinely amazed rc1 actually happened this year
@formbi2 сағат бұрын
13:43 you scared me, I thought they were gonna remove the pepper
@josephdegarmo4 сағат бұрын
Which will release first, GIMP 3 or Half-Life 3?
@PixPMusic3 сағат бұрын
To merge an FX to a group, you’d have to flatten the group By keeping it non destructive, the group can be manipulated, then the FX applies and recalculates. Flattening the FX would flatten the layers
@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb2 сағат бұрын
Down with modern clean design! Bring back janky late 90s/early 2000s design!
@Ghis1964s4 сағат бұрын
I guess they had to keep up with VLC 3.... lol
@VallThyo4 сағат бұрын
While I will only jump to GIMP when they add Non-Destructive Editing(which from what the devs said, it's not coming with 3.0 - but at a later update), this video gave me hope that things are still going to the right direction. And the fact that PhotoGIMP still work making the UI useable is also great news.
@tschorsch3 сағат бұрын
NDE was merged into G3 earlier this year. It is part of RC1.
@quaesitrix8813 сағат бұрын
🥳🥳🥳 I am cautiously hopeful that it won't be 10 years until all the non-destructive editing is implemented
@TheDoubleBee4 сағат бұрын
It's done when it's ready - there's a lot hanging on this release, so it better be as flawless as possible. I am excited, nonetheless.
@nobodyimportant78044 сағат бұрын
Honestly, unless it can be somewhat competitive with overpriced crap like Photoshop, it won't matter. Gimp remains a nothing-burger. I am not in the graphics field at any level, but if I had insane amounts of money, I would fund an OSS project to go after Photoshop and the rest of Adobe's stuff. No, it would not build off Gimp, Inkscape or any other trash.
@jenbanim3 сағат бұрын
@@nobodyimportant7804for people that use GIMP like me and Brodie these new features are big improvements. Obviously it would be great to have a FOSS replacement for Photoshop, but it makes no sense to act like improvements don't matter unless they reach that threshold. Change happens on the margin, so every small step means that GIMP becomes a viable alternative for more people. Maybe you use Photoshop professionally and that's not you, but the majority of people are not professionals and just need somewhere between basic and intermediate editing functionality
@nobodyimportant78042 сағат бұрын
@@jenbanim Maybe Gimp(3.1?) in 2070 can be on par with Photoshop from 2010. If you want a project to be relevant, it has to be able to compete. Not just for Linux adoption, but for Gimp adoption across all platforms. Gimp is a non-starter in that sense. Honestly, I just run a Windows 10 VM and use paintDOTnet for the few times I need to do things with images. It is so much better than Gimp. It is not OSS, but it is free, has lots of features, and gets improved often. If the devs ported it to Linux, it would end Gimp and that would be for the best.
@IsmailofeRegime2 сағат бұрын
@@nobodyimportant7804 Is Inkscape trash? I've only ever heard good things about it.
@RadikAlice3 сағат бұрын
Lot of things here that make me go "God bless" but what I love most is their commitment to not breaking the XCF format, beyond commendable
@pawstr4 сағат бұрын
The JWST of the FOSS world
@hugoedelarosa3 сағат бұрын
I will attempt to install 3.0 RC1 on my workstation in a couple of days.
@Beryesa.3 сағат бұрын
Almost done™ Let's hope it can reinforce some interest outside the -gnu cult- _(cough)_ core userbase and attract more code contributions 🖌️
@Linuxdirk4 сағат бұрын
So we’ll see Gimp 3 in early Q2/2025?
@MrAlanCristhian4 сағат бұрын
I hope 3.0.0 comes out before Debian 13 package freeze.
@user-tm3fz7qx3s4 сағат бұрын
I'd recommend the Flatpak anyway.
@RandomGeometryDashStuff3 сағат бұрын
@@user-tm3fz7qx3sflatpak gimp unstable is bad because gtk 3 uses xdg desktop portal instead of internal gtk 3 print dialog and xdg desktop portal doesn't have gimp-specific "Image Settings" (where you set image position and size on paper)
@Sezamn3 сағат бұрын
don't use debian and you won't have that problem lol
@Lambda_Ovine3 сағат бұрын
@@Sezamn of you can use flatpak
@nezu_cc2 сағат бұрын
@@Sezamn or just use sid
@ai-spacedestructorСағат бұрын
I dont care much about the new vs old icon but i wonder how the new looks more modern. The old Icon is 3D where as the new one looks flat, like someone used a bunch of tools to create shapes and then filled colors. To me thats a step back in quality in terms of Icons, at least personally i would consider a 3D icon to be more modern then something like that design.
@BarraIhsanСағат бұрын
whoa this is huge
@hjf30222 сағат бұрын
This is one of the projects that would not have benefitted from help from Valve.
@AnAnonymousAuditorСағат бұрын
this is it luigi
@lightechoes4 сағат бұрын
Woo!
@Kiki79250CoC2 сағат бұрын
GIMP 3 logo is okay, even if I despise flat design. I wouldn't refuse a pinch of gradient to make it "current" with Fluent Design/macOS icon standards.
@manicmarauder3 сағат бұрын
I dunno, it's like you said this is an RC not the full release. They've probably got at least another year or two left in it for RCs before the real release. Maybe another full half decade if we're unlucky ;)
@HJM9x19 минут бұрын
A rc should be result in a release after at most 6 months
@galnart52464 сағат бұрын
About time you released the video, seemed like every other video had priority :D
@geraldh.80473 сағат бұрын
So wait. This is still GTK3 isn’t it? So despite GTK4 being out for FOUR years they have now migrated to gtk3?
@FlanPoirot3 сағат бұрын
yep. funny thing is GTK used to stand for "GIMP Toolkit". I don't understand how they fumbled so hard like this
@BrodieRobertsonСағат бұрын
@FlanPoirot it used to but now it's more like the GNOME toolkit. I'm curious to see what the future plans for GIMP are. If they continue down a GTK offshoot or move to a newer version
@dasgettopikachu78783 сағат бұрын
I did not know the the GIMP mascot was Wilber
@DryPaperHammerBro3 сағат бұрын
Wilber's great in 3.0!
@Theraot4 сағат бұрын
I'll wait for Resynthesizer to update
@fishsayhelo98724 сағат бұрын
cool 👍
@adonnenСағат бұрын
Where can the GNOME-style Wilber be found?
@AlexandruVoda3 сағат бұрын
Does it force CSD or does it play nicely with other DEs?
@rangelovd2 сағат бұрын
GIMP 3.0.0 will use SSD by default with an option to enable CSD. This is done by default because there are some X11 window managers that draw decoration even if CSD is enabled.
@BrodieRobertsonСағат бұрын
There is a toggle in the settings to use what you prefer
@BannedEvECharacter11 минут бұрын
jesus, these 15 min+ videos are getting hard to watch, no chapters does not help. But i'll watch them, if my legs have to go numb, i'll do it for the Brode!
@fredjansen26592 сағат бұрын
good thing its not from microcrap, they call bugs features..
@whtiequillBjСағат бұрын
How does Gimp 3 compare to Krita 5?
@realname5630Сағат бұрын
I can't find it on the snap store
@michadybczak48624 сағат бұрын
Nah, I still don't believe it. It's early April Fools ;).
@TeaMaster4204 сағат бұрын
Early to the party!
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials3 сағат бұрын
Is GIMP still an official GNOME project?
@owlmostdead94923 сағат бұрын
Gimp 3.0 tech debt 10.0
@niamhrzСағат бұрын
GIMP finally competing with photoshop...
@primefactors8884 сағат бұрын
what is GIMP again?
@moussaadem79334 сағат бұрын
Gnu's Image Manipulation Program :P
@mewhenthemewhenstheme4 сағат бұрын
Green Is My Pepper
@darukutsu4 сағат бұрын
i prefer to call it LIGMA:Libre Image and Graphics Manipulation Application
@donaldbaird78494 сағат бұрын
Something that porn bots seem to love
@quaesitrix8813 сағат бұрын
GNU Image Manipulation Puzzle
@VolkerHett2 сағат бұрын
Duke Nukem Forever might come out for christmas now! Just which christmas is still an open question 😄
@unitrader4032 сағат бұрын
i think you have missed something....
@VolkerHett2 сағат бұрын
@@unitrader403 wait, it's not 2010 any more? 😇
@unitrader403Сағат бұрын
@@VolkerHett nope, but you havent missed much..
@hugoedelarosa3 сағат бұрын
don't give me hope 😢
@Jaymal1034 минут бұрын
Now that this is done. The biggest meme will be system trays in gnome. As there’s nothing to defend them. And before the fans come, I don’t care as long as you guys keep getting bug reports it’s a feature. 😂
@JoshuaT9022 сағат бұрын
there's still krita - better development then gimp in terms of features
@nezu_cc2 сағат бұрын
Another high-quality icon bites the dust and is replaced with an oversimplified one. Why, just why.
@Saturate08062 сағат бұрын
can python2 finally die?
@BrodieRobertsonСағат бұрын
Yep
@phantomwise672 сағат бұрын
Why are your comments full of French bots ? Did you badmouth cheese or something ?
@CRYPTiCEXiLEСағат бұрын
a little late in the game lol i knew gimp was updated a week ago lol
@Aleksandra00563 сағат бұрын
GIMP 3 is constantly postponed similarly to Windows Vista and VLC 4.
@0onix120Сағат бұрын
That icon is so ugly
@m1091Riaia4 сағат бұрын
Cette vidéo a amélioré ma journée. Je sais maintenant comment me remonter le moral à tout moment🧡
@TeaMaster4204 сағат бұрын
Why the fuck is this the only comment I see lmao
@Pandacier4 сағат бұрын
@@TeaMaster420 bots are fast. Really fast
@OraOraOra4 сағат бұрын
Mooom??? Don't embarrass me in front of my friends
@X11R11Сағат бұрын
This video ruined my life
@nobodyimportant78044 сағат бұрын
Gimp is so under-featured and has such a terrible UI that you would think it was a Gnome project. It is insane how many man-hours have been sunk into this nearly useless toy. This is why I don't allow GTK libs on my systems. "And then is heard no more. It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing." - Shakespeare, describing the Gimp project. This quote is great, it can also be used for Gnome, PopOS, Cosmic, all sorts of things. I am not in the graphics field at any level, but if I had insane amounts of money, I would fund an OSS project to go after Photoshop and the rest of Adobe's stuff. Anything less is pointless. No, it would not build off Gimp, Inkscape or any other similar trash. I am not sure what the big deal is if they stay in RC for a long time. Technically, every release is an RC, and it is a meaningless designation anyway.
@RandomGeometryDashStuff3 сағат бұрын
> This is why I don't allow GTK libs on my systems. which web browser are you using (both chromium and firefox use gtk 3)?
@penguin86bitals2 сағат бұрын
@@RandomGeometryDashStuff the only thing dude is using is acid, don't bother.
@hjf30222 сағат бұрын
Staying in RC means most users will still be using 2.10.
@nobodyimportant7804Сағат бұрын
@@hjf3022 There is literally no reason to because RC is pretty meaningless. Once, or if, they drop that, there are still going to be bugs and instability here and there.
@hjf3022Сағат бұрын
@@nobodyimportant7804 How many distros are going to be shipping release candidates in their package managers?
@m1091Thinin-d4h4 сағат бұрын
I never realized laughter could be so contagious. Thank you for this video💖
@fishsayhelo98724 сағат бұрын
silence thotbot
@m1091Toioi-n4x4 сағат бұрын
This video is the best way to forget all your problems and just laugh. I recommend it to everyone💞