You Lose 6 Games In A Row, Now What? | Broken by Concept Episode 173 | League of Legends Podcast

[@griffen1k]

One of my favorite quotes that sticks is my mind is from the WH 40k book "Saturnine" when one of the generals of the most important war in the history of the universe says: ‘He told me… and understand this, he was willing. He was glad to share a technique with me. He told me that data can blind. The weight of it. The burden of detail. Especially if one engages with it without a break or rest.’ Perturabo looked at the chart rolled out in front of him. ‘He told me he had learned to step away,’ he said. ‘Step away, even at the height of conflict, if you can believe that? To clear his mind and focus, to shed the extraneous and the superficial. To contemplate. To reduce the immeasurable complexity of the arithmetic down to simple principles. Thus renewed, he would return. Do you know what he would do then?’ ‘No, lord.’ ‘He would win, Abaddon. The bastard would win.’

[@lordswoledemort11549]

Based 40K enjoyer. I hope you are there to carry me in my next ranked game.

[@Stevenator546]

To answer to Audrey's mailbag question as someone who came FROM a 1v1 game to League of Legends, I think League provides you a far more accurate environment to the "real world". Being able to control every variable on your own, track your own improvement, and know why each mistake occurs makes the process MUCH easier and more applicable. But having to sort through the bullshit, the griefing teammates, the unclear losses, and everything else provided me with an ESSENTIAL lesson in my day to day life. It taught me how to drown out the noise and not get bogged down in everything outside of my control. Life is not a closed system, there's constantly inputs and outputs that you can't control, and adapting to those is an important skill, just like this episode talked about. Sure, fighting games and RTS games give you a more clear point A to point B, but thats not what improving in real life is like 99% of the time. Thats what makes League so beautiful while also being the reason that many people curse the game and swear they hate it. Life sucks sometimes, and so does League.

[@Amaling]

Hmm, that's a pretty interesting point. I'd say for me it's actually the opposite perspective lol I came to league from fighting games as well, basically my hand got injured and fighting game inputs were too much compared to how little your left hand has to do in a moba. It was the closest thing that scratched the itch for me my body would allow basically League being a more accurate environment of the real world could be perceived as positive, or a negative depending on perspective. From my perspective I already experience that type of environment yknow in the real world, and there are probably better ways to improve that skillset than league I'd wager My career is also pretty meritocratic and often isolated as far as careers go, so I end up getting a lot of value out of the type of improvement provided in 1v1 games It's really great how much variety the modern gaming ecosystem has huh? There's definitely problems, but once we can find ones which fit us as individuals there is so much fulfillment and reward from them

[@rubendeleeuw1556]

Well said. 👍

[@SlashSlashRobert]

Maaaaan, yet ANOTHER personal attack episode... Recently took a break for a week, came back 3(?) days ago, loss streaked, then demoted. I'm not gonna lie fellas, I definitely cried myself to sleep, wondering WHY I couldn't perform the same as I did before my break... The answer? Stop putting so much goddamn pressure on yourself to perform. Game is hard as shit, and even though I've been playing for more than a decade at this point, I still feel the difficulty at times. That is okay. Point is, forgive yourself if plays don't work out the way they did in your head. If you make a silly blunder that you've AVOIDED 10,000s of times before, laugh at it. After my nighttime league-fueled crying session (LMAO), I reflected on how I felt, and discovered that I was simply putting too much pressure on myself. So, I told myself, I'm not gonna try to learn new champs right now anymore if climbing is my goal. I told myself, I should only be playing the champions I know and love if I want to climb, learning is a separate goal entirely. Both can be achieved concurrently, but you will NOT have a fun time. One at a time grants maximum fun. Maximum fun grants maximum learning. The next day after my bedtime cry, I went on a 5 game winstreak with my main man Lucian with my newfound mental. The games were not stomps. They were not pretty. I did not get fed. My KDAs were horrendous and not appealing at all. But I did what I had to do to create the situation where we could, as a team, beat the ever living fuck out of the enemy base, towers, and eventually, their nexus. The difference? I stopped telling myself "I was going to shit on kids", because it would turn me into the kid getting shit on. I would just tell myself, "Man, I really wanna be good at Lucian again like how I was a few years ago....". I utilized the /notes feature that everyone has forgotten about since Season 2 (OG PLAYERS REPRESENT!!!) and jotted down really quickly after deaths WHY I died and how I would prevent it the next time. By the end of my blocked session, I was dying way less, and making better overall decisions. Change your mental for maximum, ultimate gains. Always review and think about what you can do different. Always..... (Haven't watched yet, just had to post this to let you guys know you've personally ATTACKED ME FOR ALMOST 2 MONTHS IN A ROW. Good on you. GG...)

[@kazeryuu3603]

25:42 Really good advice, this season I have seen Canyon going on a 13 losing streak, Faker 10, so everything is fine. Even pro players lose a lot we just need to keep improving, and learn from our mistakes and like Nathan said LP is just a number in the long run it doesn't matter that much

[@nunoamaro6518]

They lose cause the matchmaking is rigged

[@piroshiki-san]

@@nunoamaro6518 The matchmaking might be rigged, but they're losing in challenger elo and I assume you're not even close tldr: if you're better than your elo you'll climb

[@Jon14141]

That's insightful, thanks

[@echotheredeemer]

Hello, Coach Curtis and Nathan Mott. Under the episode 168, I've left a comment with the words of appreciation for igniting the spark within me to learn and improve. Today, after more than 56 blocks, I've managed to reach Diamond for the first time in my life. I'm a top laner, my champions are Ornn, Sion, and Malphite. I'm a full tank player because I genuinely enjoy being a massive rock and a living shield for my team. I had a narrative that it's impossible to climb by playing only tanks, but your podcast has motivated me a lot to push my own limits. Now then, I've managed to turn myself from playing really passive and being scared to walk up to perma baiting enemy jungler to waste his time on top side of the map while being undiveable by not letting enemy crash the wave, even if I have to lose my HP for that, so my team has a lot of time to do something on the other side. A frontline beast, a weakside king, all thanks to you and the guy Vayne OTP who's made the video from that episode.

[@Amaling]

That's awesome! If you've already reached this breakthrough you can go even higher (if that's what you want ofc), I believe in you!

[@echotheredeemer]

Thank you, friend! Reaching Diamond actually makes me even more motivated to push further. Like, I've proven to myself that if I'll put my mind and focus into something, I can reach it, so it's a matter of time. And, as a tank player, I'm omega chill and don't really get angry in the game, just sometimes but it's whatever, we're all human beings. Wish you the best, too!

[@rubendeleeuw1556]

I love you.

[@JordanWise00]

Just hit Emerald for the first time last night. (Gnar top one trick) Was silver when I first started listening to the pod couple of years ago. Love all the work you do boys 🙌🏻 *On my promotion game my Zac Jungle’s name was “Nathan’s Mail Bag” and knew it would be a banger. We both carried 😎

[@Jon14141]

Nice bro

[@flexrumblecrunch9140]

See you in Diamond brother

[@kenn-fucius]

Good shit man I’m a fellow yordle I just hit p3 and hopefully in 40ish days I can say the same. I’m a teemo one trick. Stopped playing for a few years Started the season in September in bronze.

[@JordanWise00]

@@kenn-fucius Let’s goooo Yordle ganggg! Teemo is a tough one so respect! Remember don’t get caught up in the days to a rank it’s just improvement. I am sure you know that but I have wasted 1000s of games with the wrong mindset about getting to a rank by X date. I believe 🙌🏻 glhf

[@garagavia]

Nathan's Mail Bag, what a legend

[@HanyuuHOLO]

The segment starting at 29:00 is so insanely valuable, probably my favorite segment ever, as someone who watched every single BBC episode. Thank you guys for the podcast.

[@JamesBaleLA]

57:00 I watch a good bit of broxah and it’s always funny how often he gets flamed. Even sometimes he’ll be smurfing and no one will know it’s him and they’re completely flaming him. He always makes it a point to say that it doesn’t matter what you achieve in the game there will always be people who will flame you.

[@glitch5174]

lol I watched a sinerias I think his name is.. high elo yi player.. do a guide and he took dragon, double killed bot after his got doubled, and crashed wave.. gold Ashe is gonna spam ping him and flame in chat.. brother this guy plays around 1200lp EUW just /deafen apply some Ashe slows and let him carry you💀

[@eryalmario5299]

what a chad

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

i had a live coaching session with nathan on stream, I got end of reviewed at 4 minutes but I learned a invade angle that If i wasn't told to do it live and it work, I would have maybe questioned it if told i could have done it afterwards. So i'd say there are less lessons in live, but i think its more memorable. Generally when you vod review it kind of feels like youre watchign someone else, not yourself, kind of like when you learn lessons from others mistakees instead of your own

[@LuckyGnom]

There is one thing that is good about live coaching for laners tho. It's when you hard force your student to do what you want to do. Basically, you say them "now we roam there" or "look there now" or "we don't join this fight we split push there" without any explanation. The idea is to show the player two things: 1) How different is your thinking to theirs. 2) To show them what is intensity really like, because most people don't even gather the information on the screen properly. I believe one off coaching session like this might be good for people that play for a long time and can't get better. Also, you can obviously review the game and explain your decisions afterwards.

[@ElReyDeNoche]

I have played League since season 3. I would never fully dedicate to grinding because I would hit silver 2/3 and be top 50% and be happy just knowing I wasn't bottom percentage. I took a break for many years and then came back and my wife started playing after our daughter was born. Even as a player that was usually hanging out in Silver teaching my wife how to play and all the nuances of the game made me realize how much stuff I know even without truly grinding to climbing. This year has probably been the most dedicated to skill improvement I have been and I am playing games where I can solo kill golds and plats and realizing I probably could have climbed the whole time and should have just been willing to grind. But there's a ton to learn in Leaugue and anyone who plays a lot even if they aren't diamond probably knows a lot more about the game than we can even properly asses because League is such a dense game. My wife has been playing 6 months and there's just a lot to learn for her and she gets hard on herself sometimes and I'm just telling her to take it one role and play style at a time and learn her champs and have fun. Some folks are just really good at the game naturally but many people just have to grind and learn and there's a lot to learn. And sometimes having hands hurts people's growth because they end up throwing games trying to hands diff a bunch and end up throwing leads all the time then blaming teams for not being carryable etc.

[@TrevorScott1989]

On the intrinsically motivated portion I heard Sam Sulik once say “a person who loves to walk is going to walk further than a person who loves a destination” and I think they mindset really applies here. 44:56

[@Typhoonflame]

Thanks Curtis and Nathan, literally just climbed to bronze 3, then went on a 4-game loss streak, needed this!

[@CoffeeGameMovie]

"4-game loss streak" - oh boy be ready for a 10-12 or even a 15 game loss streak, just dont lose mental :)

[@vanilluxe01]

@@CoffeeGameMovie i had a 16 loss streak from masters all the way to d4 and oh my god i got soooo humbled

[@joshuacox5817]

😂 oh no a few losses in a row! Try a losing streak where you lose an entire rank and 2 divisions in less than 3 days.

[@Typhoonflame]

@@CoffeeGameMovie I've gotten up to 12 dw xD I think that was my longest, at least.

[@Typhoonflame]

@@joshuacox5817 I've had 12-loss streaks,just wanted to thank the guys for the great timing as Curtis literally taught me to play mid in the MLS, idk why you wanted to be rude abt it?

[@eebbaa5560]

play league -> lose games -> don’t play for a month -> get inspired -> play league -> lose games

[@karenwang313]

The only solution is to run it down on your main account and get banned for good. I havent played nearly as much ever since.

[@joshuacox5817]

The feedback loop is loser's queue and rigged matchmaking. There's no decisions if queuing in equals a loss

[@eebbaa5560]

@@karenwang313 all it takes is one bad day…🃏

[@Itszenlal]

​@@joshuacox5817 I can tell your new here. Blaming your team doesn't help you win.

[@zeldafan9656]

a loss streak after a break should be expected. if you don’t loss streak after a break, consider yourself lucky. you can’t seriously expect to not play for a month and not have any of your skills deteriorate. the de-rusting phase is hard but continuing to play is the only way to break the loss streak, taking another break is never gonna solve that problem 🤷‍♂️

[@williamguedes1033]

Lmao, I just lost 6 games in a row and this video came up to me. I just love this youtube channel so much.

[@willgoodchild6242]

Loved the discussion at the end! So great to actually hear that you're humans with narratives and still works in progress!

[@Captain_newo]

This podcast is so fundamental that it’s principals apply to far more than just league. It’s The Compound Effect (Daren Hardy), it’s sooo many principals, simply applied to league. Big fan.

[@Amaling]

Eee I'm so glad you two thought the question was worthwhile! I guess it really is that simple, there are other mediums where this improvement process is more efficient but it's still the best method of improvement in League as well. And yall just love League more than the other games. I think that's a pretty powerful state to be with regarding relationship with the game. Ultimately fighting games are just the most fun for me as far as competitive sport goes, so I'll stick by them and I guess I would have even if they were not such an ideal medium for structured individual improvement Don't know what else there is to say past that... hope by the time Project L releases I'll be a good enough player and mentor to do something small but similar to what you two have with League!

[@Pyrrha_Nikos]

To the point Nathan makes at 1:30:30 about I feel like I'm beating 5 people with my 4 people, it made me click right now. I am someone that played Age of Mythology when I was in high school and got to be in the top 100 in the world (this was like 15 years ago though). A few years ago, I wasn't having fun with League and got back into Age of Empires 2 (I tried AoM, but the player base is so small it can take hours to find a match, and it broadens the search so much I have played vs people 100 elo above and below mine, or having 300 ping because I get matched against someone on the other side of the world), and it was a lot of fun, but only for a while. I played around 3/4 months, got to around 1600 elo in the 1v1 ladder (which was around top 5% of players), but it was always missing something. I love the game, I keep up with every pro tournament, I watch AOE2 streams all the time, but playing it doesn't feel as fun as League. And I just noticed, I was missing that "I have 4 humans on my team and have to beat 5 humans on the other team" aspect. 1v1s are fun, but it's not what kept me playing League for 8 years now. Yes, sometimes it seems like my 4 humans aren't really humans, but it's a part of the game I love so much, and I never enjoyed a game as much as I do League, even if I'm lower ranked than I got to in those other games Edit: got to the end of the video. My kriptonite is 100% Lux support (not when paired with Caitlyn). It's legit the most useless champ in the game in that role, because she needs very expensive items to be of any use, and support doesn't have that amount of income unless you take all the kills or steal cs, in which case why play support when you can play mid and do that without pissing everyone off? She also completely screws me over, because I love playing ap junglers and mid is usually ap too so we get a lot of ap on our team and the enemy team becomes unkillable

[@Amaling]

Respect

[@RocoPwnage]

I've often thought about this sort of thing. "Why am I wasting my time in League, losing games because of inting randoms, when I could just be playing a fighting game and be a beast in pure 1v1?" Then I go play a fighting game and get bored in 2 hours and don't want to play it anymore. There is nothing else like League on the planet. The chaos just makes it better.

[@xanderj4114]

Had to subscribe. Y’all touched on everything I needed to hear about the mental aspect of this game. I have been playing since s4. Highest I’ve hit is plat 1 and now emerald 4. My biggest problems would be going on a losing streak say 3-4 games and continuing the damage after my mindset is clearly not right to continue playing. I’ll sabotage my own lp by queuing up while tilted and playing abnormal. I’ve been reveling my games more lately at an objective outlook and man sometimes it’s hard. Like when you said you have to reflect the next day you can’t do it that same night. For me now after a couple hours I’ll calm down and be able to blame myself for obvious mistakes that caused us to lose instead of blaming teammates for what I thought they should be doing. I love these type of talks because I know for a fact a lot of people are in that same boat of going on a massive losing streak and instantly getting new account cuz “this account is cursed” lol. Sorry for long message but this really resonated with me and all the other talks as well. League really is a mental game and when you have a positive outlook you really do enjoy the game much better. Salute brothas.

[@PlanADidntWorkOut]

1:18:00 yo I'm a Lost Ark player who's a year sober from League yet I still keep up with this series. Lots of great pointers that can be applied beyond League of Legends

[@Captain_newo]

I’ve been listening and digesting this episode for a week or 2. Wonderful wonderful concepts that are useful for more than just league.

[@Parkwaydriver]

I had lost 4 games in a row and this video popped up on my homepage. I'm listening to it and now I'm on my 6th defeat in a row, let's go!!!

[@Kakarot9002]

I have my own hypothesis about why everyone thinks the best are still bad: I believe it’s because they dehumanize the top to be these perfect %100 no mistakes gods when in reality they are all still human and they confuse what makes them good to be “oh they do these huge outplays” when in real reality the most important thing to be the top is consistency, not the one huge flashy outplay every 50 games or so. But then they see consistency as boring so it is not associated as the largest variable of skill to these players

[@scottwallace5239]

​@@new_chapter-pt7fk hard to tell if you're being serious with this or not, I'd like to hope so

[@piroshiki-san]

41:11 This is actually the same struggle that gifted kids often go through. Since they never had to try at school and everything came naturally to them, when learning gets actually difficult they have no experience struggling with it, so they end up falling behind and their ego takes a massive hit from that, obviously Talent is definitely an advantage, but on top of that it's a different circumstance with it's own difficulties

[@kierant3879]

OK, I have a thought. If the mid live coaching is for the audience, could you lean into it by having the players point on stream but they can't hear you while you're talking to chat about what they're doing/should be doing? Then you bring them on for a quick debrief/review after the game? Or you just swap to something else when they end of review it?

[@kawgrath1876]

I was emerald 1 50 LP and then lost 11/13 games. Just won five in a row and I'm back in emerald 2. It's such a roller coaster, I've never been diamond and I really want it.

[@Charms256]

johnny antucornopolo with the banger quote. Congrats Curtis on the jaw dropping pronunciation

[@willgoodchild6242]

As someone who learned the game through mid and is now a jungle main I think the main differences between live-coaching mid and jungle is the general speed of decisions required. For Jungle you 'can' be anywhere on the map and might need to be to have real impact. This requires strategic decision making, planning, and constant assessment of new information, often without an interaction with an enemy player. This gives Nathan the time and space to direct/guide the jungler. For Mid, these concepts are still there, but there's a player in your face distracting you. As Coach lists, the fundamentals that relate to Mid tend to be snap decisions. It's impossible to direct a player to punish a mis-tether by their opponent, or sometimes there will be things that you'll need to do instantly that if you do 1 second later, won't have the same impact or effect to do with wave management or a roam etc. In my opinion, the micro required to win as a midlaner is substantially greater than the micro you need as a jungler, and vice versa for macro (obviously you need both to be excellent..)

[@fool9]

Bravo guys I love the mail bag comments. We just love League!

[@pyrosalsa]

In the poker analogy: jungle tracking is like counting cards, in that you’re using information in front of you to determine information you *can’t* see. You have to be willing and able to “play dirty”, because unlike counting cards, jungle tracking is ALLOWED

[@quasar4072]

1:00:00 I said something like that to my friend for him to not be nervous. when he was in the bronze lobby as an iron player i said "bronze players are NPC bro don't worry they are really bad" after hearing about that problem from you guys i just released that i failed to release that my friend has never played anything like league and me knowing things and being just used to things like when should i use my abilities and knowing my and enemy dmg or ranges it is something that i learned as well even tho i didn't try to learn them.

[@pereralonso]

just to add to Curtis piece about the nature of the game and adaptability: They ran studies to find what correlates with success in the game and the only thing with statistically relevant correlation was "cognitive flexibility", which is precisely your ability to change your mind when presented with new info.

[@paringlancei9133]

ngl in a very dark period in life right now , peaked dia for the first time in my life after never ever thinking I’d ever hit it , and it felt amazing and then went on to hitting d2 with ease , from there I was playing with master tier players and felt pretty good , proceeded to have a series of games where I was either grieved by teammates or I just didn’t play well enough demoted in and out of d4 and then I started rage queuing and demoted all the way to e4. I wasn’t too worried because I thought If I could hit it once I could do it again I was also told by master tier players and wings or death this is very common and happened to many people and this Elo range is very coin flip. I was then hard stuck from e3 and e4 for a few days and I snapped. I began playing roughly 23 games a day and not sleeping only breaking for food and restroom and then to sleep , staying up on g fuel and made it to e1 88 lp yesterday and demoted back to e2 0 lp. Yesterday I played 32 games. Im angry I’m frustrated and nothing else matters to me. I am just wanting because I’m very angry and I lowkey want to die. Some games people are smurfing from gm + and it’s just not fun and some games I can’t carry or I feed. I have tried everything from coaching to auto piloting to active thinking to a balance and I’m so so angry.

[@MickyAspire]

The way they both instantly reach for their phones the second the podcast ends 😂

[@Patientbull]

just me or they have a weird energy a little, like they don't fully enjoy each others company

[@emprahsfinest7092]

@@Patientbull Curtis rolls over Nathan when he tries to talk.

[@przan]

I dont agree, they are good friends and it shows

[@graham4385]

@@Patientbulldefinitely not, they’ve been friends for a very long time

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Patientbullbro doesn’t have friends

[@sebastiandorflinger3587]

Would you always recommand reviewing a vod? so that you also see where you clicked etc. or is the replay enough?

[@louisjedinight3363]

Every time we get to Curtis Clip Corner I feel like an 80's-90's sitcom with background laughing is about to start. I don't know why. (like the intro of that segment)

[@benhughes5308]

I actually quit the game because of what coach Curtis said in an episode a long time ago about not taking the game seriously. I realised I wasn't, quit the game and came back a year later when I wanted to treat it seriously and respect the game.

[@smappa849]

The jungle is also the goalkeeper in a sense that you often prevent enemy team from "scoring" ganks/making plays.

[@cameronroberts4296]

I like support more for goalkeeper but that’s just me. They prevent more deaths.

[@Katsuatis]

Thanks for answering my question and butchering my name, awesome job on both :D

[@EJuliusF]

Here is what you do: Have a mute button for the client so they can't hear you while you explain to the viewers.

[@Freakattaker]

You know it's serious when CC pulls out the PAPER DOCUMENTS from off screen

[@luukas2660]

Went on a 16 game losing streak in split 1 on my main, all the way from master 100 lp to diamond 3. Quit the game for months after that. Three block method would've certainly helped im sure.

[@sandy3938]

Nathan 'Bustin' My Ballz' Mott

[@amumoon1268]

Prepare for trouble! And make it double! 😎

[@jorgeolopezdiaz1648]

You aren’t a true fan unless you sing curtis clip corner, saying away we go and alllllllllrighty then.

[@ReticentRon]

@Nathan, Do you think it was complacency or over aggressiveness that lost you that last game? You said it yourself after the clip "I've lost so much LP that my season is over and I'll never get challenger now." It seem to me like you were in the mindset of this is it I'm really strong I need to close this game and you were trying to do too much regardless of that current situations win condition. I wonder if that is causing you not to see 0-6 rengar as a bait to your throw condition with your mental state in that moment. So desperate for that win you possibly cant see what you should do "let him die he is useless" when you NEED this win so bad right now. Also can help explain the overstay trying to finish the game earlier. Also, do you find Duo'n with Curtis that you find yourself playing around him too much and trying to force him to be your win condition? I've recently played a few duo games with a friend and noticed its more of a distraction than anything. I'm not playing the game, I'm playing his personal pocket ganker to the detriment of the game itself. Or maybe at a higher level you all can mold the game states more easily into position so you can pull it off.

[@Supertoddy96]

Funny that this is a loss streek title, i first placed plat 2 in the new split when emerald was added, idk what happened, but dropped to gold 3 or so, then i said screw it and started trying, back where i should be (relatively and i peaked plat 1 before the rank reset thing this year, i was aiming for diamond) but hopefully i might be able to get diamond this year, i just dont know where im lacking, some games are hard stomps, others are weird games im stuck in my own faults that i cant find out where im really failing, or if im not trying enough but i might have to review my own games really

[@kylelipka9133]

Been falling in love with one tricking vayne top and this past weekend i played on my alt account where i try new champions before taking it to my main (where i hit plat for the first time since starting end of season 3). I think in solo q i lost almost every game to one sided matchmaking as well as tilted and poor play on my end. This video is eerily timed with the weekend i just had.

[@pavellekar3703]

u know thats a virgin pick

[@zeldafan9656]

@@pavellekar3703shaming other people for their champ pick is the only virgin behavior here

[@kylelipka9133]

@@pavellekar3703 gets the job done and i play the game for my enjoyment... cant say the same for my enemies unfortunately. i'm a disgusting ranged top abuser

[@ziaherebarker1593]

wait we are suppose to only do 6 loses, im on a 12 game lose streak...

[@shanebitner8991]

I only played about 40-50 ranked games of mid before i discovered my cryptonite, which is autofilled junglers. Then I decided to play jungle and join saltu so it can never happen again, and jungle rules

[@BastlyLeague]

this video appeared to me after i've been playing from 5am-9am, lost everygame but 1, playing well, getting ace, everygame, playing to the best i can in the current situation, and still just unable to mind control the 10+ death adcs, or the masters last split players completley being useless and me being 1v9 everygame. i lost my cool, i honestly want to give up, i dont understand what im even doing wrong anymore. just losing the coinflip, these are d3-d2 players.. and they are always just never upto my standards of what i figured d2-d3 would be. i can beat 150lp masters in lane but yet struggle actually winning the game afterward, it feels so hopeless. im tempted to join mla, but honestly ive been told i dont need it and i want to hit diamond before i even consider it.

[@eebbaa5560]

me who can’t hit gold:

[@Typhoonflame]

Then work on winning the game post lane, you literally identified your flaw right there.

[@AtefHelmy23]

Ok so you gap masters laners but you can’t get into diamond?? I hate to be that guy but yeah right.

[@BastlyLeague]

@@AtefHelmy23 i am playing in d2-d1 mmr, against past season masters 100lp +. its not a matter of i cant get into diamond its a matter of when, i just simply have lost on my 80% wr acc too many times and had a little bit of a mental break. i was 5 wins off diamond from e2, gaining 40lp a game.

[@louisjedinight3363]

Ooooof, that part about ADC and support being an easier role to get carried on. I DO NOT agree hahaha, but you did mention you are biased so I accept it, but I think it was good not to go too far down that réflexion, could have led to sketchy thoughts on other roles.

[@xiariser-213]

Imagine shit talking Neace, and then a year later realizing what and how he does things, and the reasons behind his coaching.

[@madchal]

Not a jungler admitting jungle gap is real on tape. We'll never recover.

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

My favourite tilt typers in ranked are the good ol "pisslo gold players" , while being plat4 1LP

[@jkepic25]

hahaha @ spelling Antentokounmpo. ah, it is actually Antetokounmpo. :)

[@Itszenlal]

When i used to play CSGO high elo everyone there always said how terrible they were at the game including me. I do this with league too. I feel its because if you always are telling yourself that you are terrible at the game then you know its not your team mates fault you cant climb. Its always you not playing good enough.

[@echotheredeemer]

Former CSGO Faceit 3000 elo player here, can confirm it's true. I'd even say the situation with toxicity and ego is even worse in CSGO.

[@nemek2082]

My kryptonite is autofilled jg. I think it's too importantto have on role jg

[@SolaceV9]

What to do when you're on a 6 games loss streak? How is that even a question, you keep playing and try for world record obviously.

[@youNevada]

If you'd like you could review my 2 recent Kiana games to see what my gameplay is fairing, I think im less mechanically skilled and more of a strategist

[@praetorxak5361]

1 hour earlier in the states

[@Typhoonflame]

Earlier everywhere, time moved backwards

[@BobFudgee]

Live coaching is definitely for squashing bad habits or correcting mechanical errors, I don't believe their is much if any value on macro plays.

[@Brightside187]

I would hope that 300 dollars would get me an entire afternoon of coaching.

[@Brosak.]

now i feel bad cuz my main role is supp and 2nd adc :( i get what u mean but still

[@JavierPwns]

Neace made it look easy and you thought you could wing it lol

[@J.W.-is8oj]

what to do if you are hardstuck and it makes you depressed af that you can't improve and you will always be shit at the game

[@takumu781]

realize what you are doing wrong and dont do that again. that requires you to actively think about the game and not sit with everyone aram mid at 15min.

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

i personally like playing normals to improve, im gold 3 S13 s1( prob high plat realistically but dont play ranked much). I dissociate my learning from gaining or losing any LP that way and i can focus on learning objectives. I face the same ranks in normal or ranked, and I dont notice anything different in the games tbh, as im near average elo. I think this is the same thing as people playing ranked on a 2nd account

[@Aanenk]

people dont take normals nearly as seriously. Some do, but they're not playing ranked for a reason. Its too challenging. Almost no reason to play norms other than to maybe warmup a game. Half the achievement is just putting yourself out there.

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

90% of my normal games are just as tryhard as ranked games, i dont know what your vision of ranked players being some professionals but 30% of them are addicts with nothing better to do who will run it at the slightest trigger, I don tknow when the last time someone purposely ran it or was toxic in all chat in normals, its so much rarer. If you think gold, plat and emerald players play normals because its too challenging youre deluded lol, why do iron, bronze and silver hardstucks exist then? @@Aanenk

[@Freakattaker]

Don't let people hate on you for using norms to get better at the game. I played norms almost exclusively for years as an S1 player and didn't get into ranked grinds until like S6~S7 or something. That was around high Gold/low Plat, so it wouldn't be unlikely that you can still get plenty of value from norms up until around high Plat/low Emerald (probable modern equivalents).

[@Aanenk]

yes cause some random diamond Adc on the internet really cares to hate you for playing norms. Maybe just maybe it's advice to not waste time with something many of us already have. People don't take it seriously. It's not the same mindset, not the same stress.

[@vondoplays1630]

🐐🐐

[@DFavored1]

Dw Curtis I always knew you were human, I assumed you’d be like midbeast and everytime I open his stream in kr he’s like 0/6/6😂 always losing lane

[@eugenijuspuskovas7848]

who can tell curtis twitch name

[@SirAnCat]

Can you do a fair review on thebausffs? 😂

[@trickstabbed]

how tf u upload that just after i loose streak on two accs in a row close league and open youtube to chill

[@wochaoainigejiba1211]

cuz you are the protagonist

[@jacobcannon8876]

Easier to get carried on ADC???????

[@Aanenk]

its matchmaking guaranteed. maybe 6 is too many games but they def give you a few loses if you dont dodge those games. then you will get teammates where its more even ,and you have more influence, and obviously the free wins. Just gotta take those loses as nothing you coulda done but dodged for some reason.

[@crazysnill]

5cs/min average on Nathan's jg. Interesting to see, wonder how high it would be if Nathan had to climb from gold or something up.

[@wochaoainigejiba1211]

if you have 10/cs a min on reksai jg you are probably doing it wrong

[@TheJocker1230]

You're hard coping if you think he cant climb from gold just because of cs average in the jg lmao

[@crazysnill]

What? He is Chall, ofc he can. But does it have to be higher to carry worse mates?@@TheJocker1230

[@wochaoainigejiba1211]

@@new_chapter-pt7fk no wonder you'd be pisslow with a reading comprehension level this bad

[@mikyu4758]

ur on to something

[@EOMMunaware]

You guys measure a person worth by a league rank game. Which is why it’s hard to respect you guys.

[@gengariffith6852]

You butchered his name so bad, I think you're ready to be a substitute teacher in a public school

[@subasafreak]

not being able to live review only show the lake of proficency on the game, now u guys are just using buzzwords and the "multiverse" to justify your mistakes, just change the name to midtalk jungletak or something.

[@Thecrispy22]

Opgg?

[@anatoligavrilov5000]

u live an illusion. all climbers ake new acc. why? cuz theres solo q matchup stuff u can go past. period

[@whodis799]

"Knowr" "Heir" VOD review the accent, you can be so much better! (I'm a hater)

[@Alend222]

Thank you for the engagement for the algorithm! 😂