Using Micro USB must be an obvious insult from a UK company towards one (of the wisest) EU decisions ever. BROMPTOOOOON come on!!!!
@ChriFux10 ай бұрын
the lights just came out and are already obsolete - noice
@black.raven.adventures10 ай бұрын
@@ChriFux Thats right. A good example how product management wants to play in a niche and ruled themselves out of the market. Not sure how large the available market segment finally will be within the Brompton crowd. Front light is only compatible on the original break levers, tail light only on original latest saddle version. And the lamps are only available as a pair, so if some customer potenially likes one of the both lamps but made changes to their bikes, needs to purchase both and let the other half laying around, what a waste. I feel that wasn't the wisest move spending R&D money and resources. Brompton should install a group of Beta testers before they launch product.
@user-ec7dc7hh9o10 ай бұрын
Once they hear I won’t be buying a USB charging light which is not USB C, they will obviously bring out a new model. 😅 (Don’t tell them that both my helmet light and my current seat post light and both USB mini charging!🤫)
@emerald399 ай бұрын
The usb C model will be out in 18 months so you buy more lights
@Pesmog10 ай бұрын
While positioning the rear light under the saddle looks a good idea, I have lost count of the number of times in the winter I see it being obstructed by the tails of a riders rain coat. I always position the rear lamp slightly lower on all of my bikes because of this.
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the great (very true) insight
@ianzthingz110 ай бұрын
One wonders as a new product they aren't using USB-C for the charging connection, impossible to get that one wrong, nice set of lights, tho I run a 1600 lumen on the front of mine 😂🤣😂
@grahammcdonald10 ай бұрын
Agreed, micro usb is delicate.
@ianzthingz110 ай бұрын
@@jon_underscore I ride a full size hybrid, not got a Brompton yet! I ride a lot of dark trails and I also find it encourages oncoming drivers to dip their headlights. 😀😀😀
@napilopez10 ай бұрын
Agreed. It should be a crime to sell anything with Micro USB in 2023. It also comes off as cheap with a premium company.
@gracesiu987210 ай бұрын
in France, we also have the bell on the right-hand side, as default settings 😊 a big thumb up for the video ! thanks 👍🏼
@alanbannster36175 ай бұрын
Just brought these lights and fitted onto my new 2024 C line electric. Lights are great, bright and so easy to fit. One small point - my bell is right handed only. Only have the two (2) screw holes not the four (4) on the bell bracket so unable to rotate upside down.
@brilliantbikes5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes it’s funny the original instructions were actually wrong! Sorry!
@TR4zest10 ай бұрын
My brakes don't have two holes, but I watched anyway :)
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Many thanks for watching!
@devjon12310 ай бұрын
Me too!
@willpotere66659 ай бұрын
Just bought this set, thank you for the instructions! FYI, the bell is located on the same side as yours here in Europe, so no need to swap the bell.
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Thank you! And thank you for watching!
@Kamavagadoo8 ай бұрын
I got these for Christmas today. Just fitted them (I wanted to fit them earlier but that seemed antisocial). They are great and brighter than I expected. Thanks for the installation video - saved me having to bodge it! Happy Christmas!
@brilliantbikes7 ай бұрын
Happy Christmas! Thanks for watching and so glad it helped!
@alexhobson51828 ай бұрын
These look good. I'm using some Cat Eye lights at the moment, they are a bit messy. These look like they are very neat, i'm sold!
@brilliantbikes8 ай бұрын
That’s what we thought, nice and simple. Thanks for watching!
@runeyt9 ай бұрын
Great video. Really tempted by these. Discovered your channel after getting my Brompton, and then discovered you're not far from me so will definitely pay a visit to the treasure trove that is Brilliant Bikes soon.
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching - and the kind commend We have a set on our demo P line - so you can seem them in real life if you come down and see us :-)
@soldierloz6 ай бұрын
An aftermarket mounting bracket for most saddle rails would sell big time. Surely that is a must!
@brilliantbikes6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment There is actually a great mounting bracket for saddle rails (which at least fits the Brooks saddles) to allow mounting of CatEye rear lights brilliantbikes.co.uk/light-spares/4458-cateye-rm-1-rear-saddle-rail-mount-bracket.html We think it's unlikely that one will be made for the Brompton Be Seen rear light!
@AiraBai10 ай бұрын
German here: Bell is on the right hand. With the flashing I don't think they got the required certifications to be allowed on german roads. So with the requirements on the parts of the bike, micro-usb now when everything goes over to usb-c, giving it an outdated first impression on a brand new product, not eligible for the required light setup on the road, better alternatives, I would suggest to only stock the bare minimum.
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your comment! I think Brompton tried to address the local regulations by adding a warning for the user to check it can be used in your territory!
@HolgerNestmann10 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikes germany is fun. You can put a blinking light on your backpack or helmet, but not on the bike.
@rolandomichel207010 ай бұрын
Oh Hanna, always tempting us with your New & Shiny bits, when will it end?! Hopefully not anytime soon!
@hhoebeke110 ай бұрын
Love your videos! And what a nice design! And yes it is weird that the bicycle industry seems to stick with the terrible micro-usb, just like the TV industry seems to stick with old school usb…
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making our day! Many maybeMaybe maybe one day we will have USB-C…….
@phungmoe230210 ай бұрын
U guys r so funny.... always make my day!
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making us smile! And for watching!
@jonathanleach39143 ай бұрын
thanks for this. I have just bought a new P line 12 speed and interestingly the "backing plate" on the bell only has one set of holes, so can't be transferred onto the left from the right. It's not a problem for me as I normally use other bells such as Crane or Spurcycle but it might affect others. Thanks as always..
@brilliantbikes2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Funny we made the video just after they were released when it was recommended they were fitted on that side, then Brompton realised and updated the instructions! 😫
@brightlightdun10 ай бұрын
Good catch, otherwise we will never see the washers again.
@stevetaylor869810 ай бұрын
Hint. Don't do things while on grass, particularly long grass. If you drop a fastener or other small component you will be very lucky to see it again.
@edwardshirley931410 ай бұрын
Likewise at the top of a fire-escape ladder. You drop something then just listen to it clang clang clnging its way down then hitting the floor. Good bye.
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
lol! We wanted a nice back ground! Thanks for watching!
@deepindercheema49175 ай бұрын
I bought a set of Be Seen. The leaflet does not suggest the front light be mounted furthest away from pavement but I can see the logic of the position. The rear light will become obscured if your untucked shirt tail or sagging rucksack droop down. Its a shame as i like the idea of the dedicated mounting hole for bracket underneath saddle. Opportunity for a Brompton hack.
@KarlOnSea10 ай бұрын
Brilliantly practical video!
@KarlOnSea10 ай бұрын
Ha! And I've just got to the out-takes section. Even more brilliant!!
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching all the way to the end! We really appreciate it!
@platypushatstand9 ай бұрын
02:02 I’m on Brompton’s mailing list, their video link shows the front light attached to the left brake lever and the bell on the right brake lever, yet the riders appear to be in the UK, yet the lights are set up in the EU way. From what I can tell the front light isn’t pointing straight and level, it’s pointing upwards (like when poorly adjusted car headlights, when one is level and the other is pointing upwards and blinding oncoming traffic) because the brake lever is angled upwards, so it appears there is no micro adjustment, nice one Brompton (sarcasm). I wouldn’t want to angle my brake levers so far forward just to fit that light as I would need to overreach to cover the brake when necessary, let alone pull them, (even accounting for lever adjustment travel). So still Exposure Trace & TraceR for the win, unless it’s unlit roads and the Trace is substituted for the Strada 800 with remote switch 😊
@finncarlbomholtsrensen11885 ай бұрын
As a Dane I can't remember on which side my bell is, but I have told my dear wife, that the damned contraption is built for riding in the left side! I originally bought the bike to be able to take it to Malta during our many vacations in our Danish Designed, built and owned village in Mellieha! But as now both 76 she won't allow me to take it down, as they haven't found out to change direction, as all other Continental members of the EU! Finn. Denmark
@j.m.314310 ай бұрын
I'm happy that my h6rd and my m6ld have light from generator hubs here in Germany
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment We also like the dynamo lights we have on our main Bromptons - these do make good "additional" lights - though not really a main light
@stephenwest6732 ай бұрын
Hannah ❤
@brilliantbikes2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@martinneumann778310 ай бұрын
Hello! On my Brompton M6R from the bell is mounted on the left side. The front brakes are also on the left side. When I went to the shop to pick it up in 2016 the brake layout wasn't in the european layout. They changed it quickly to the layout I'm familiar with. Even if the Be Seen Light Set won't fit to my «old» Brompton, I watched the video anyway... See you - Martin
@gblan2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure someone will devise 3D printed adaptors that will allow these to be mounted in various places.
@brilliantbikes2 ай бұрын
I think that’s a fab idea! Thanks for watching!
@seductive_Octopus10 ай бұрын
Ergon Saddle got an mounting point for screws on the back, you should be able to mount it there too but it need a bit of reworking to work properly.
@michaellewandowski861410 ай бұрын
To answer your question: The bell is placed on the right side on Bromptons, which are sold in Germany.
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and answering our question - now we know So only people in UK / Australia / NZ / India (the old empire ;-) ) need to move the bell
@judebrown410310 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikesbut didn't you move the bell from the right? Another question: I'm old but when I passed my Cycling Proficiency Test back in the sixties I'm sure flashing front and rear lights were not allowed on any vehicle. Is this no longer the case or do we disregard it now for safety reasons, does anyone know? Given that TV programmes have to warn people about flashing lights I am surprised if they are allowed...just curious, not critical.👍
@horsenuts183110 ай бұрын
@@judebrown4103 If you read the Highway Code, you can read all about the legality of flashing lights on bicycles. You HAVE read it since you passed your driving test, haven't you?
@devjon12310 ай бұрын
@@judebrown4103 As I understand it flashing lights are allowed but they should be in addition to a " normal " light.
@sergioeures7 ай бұрын
Selling them separately was too convenient, I at least hope that the light is brighter than the 25 Euro Chinese rear ones, which are already quite bright, if you choose well ❤
@brilliantbikes7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@adrianconstantini608125 күн бұрын
Wonderful clip! Question: Do the be seen lights' work for the t-line as well?
@brilliantbikes25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment, for watching and for the question Yes - the T Line uses the "standard integrated" brake levers to which the front light attaches and the carbon superlight saddle with the mounting point for the rear light
@larshelmin10 ай бұрын
My Brompton doesn't fill the criteria but I watched it to the end anyway. I use the same principle with extra lights higher up since I think it is better to send out photons than reflect someone elses 😀
@themoodyteam10 ай бұрын
‘They’re easy to install …’ 🙄 Nice lights, but what a faff! 2mm hex for bell 2.5mm hex for front light 3mm hex for rear light
@ianzthingz110 ай бұрын
Yeah, you'd think they'd pick a single size, would save money!
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Funny we said the same when we were checking what tools we needed. Thanks for watching!
@ihateunicorns86710 ай бұрын
Have you changed your camera? The quality is really nice. Looks kind of filmic.
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
Many thanks! Strange it’s the same camera, but we were in the Alps so wonder if the better air quality and bright light made it better….?
@tim201510 ай бұрын
Clearer air and wonderful quality of light are special to the Alps... I am reminded of wonderful holidays in the Austrian Tyrol.
@curiouspenguin688710 ай бұрын
Half the time we can't get useful Brompton releases like this in the US. 😢
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
So sorry! Hopefully Brompton will get them to you soon! Thanks for watching!
@MrP1L0T10 ай бұрын
I have a European Brompton and the bell is on the right
@kavanobrien654710 ай бұрын
Make sure it’s the right way round before putting it in hard , so many one liners in my head but being a gentleman obviously pressed the stop button. Song for the video = A Hard Day’s Night = The Beatles .
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
lol! No really I did laugh out loud! Thanks for making me laugh and for watching!
@kavanobrien654710 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikes Always a pleasure, never a chore.
@pistacho.cerrao10 ай бұрын
My brompton, bought in Spain, has the bell mounted on the right.
@LouisBeaudoin10 ай бұрын
The new Brompton Integrated Bell only installs on the right hand lever, despite specifications saying it can install on the left. (There’s only one pair of mounting holes, not two like the older bell shown in this video). So in the UK, if I got this light set I couldn’t mount it on the proper side. I like the new bell, it’s loud enough to get people’s attention unlike the old bell.
@mynameisntbobbybob9 ай бұрын
You're right, I posted on Reddit as couldn't figure what I was doing wrong and emailed brilliant bikes to let them know. I've still installed my light that side can use bell just a bit awkward.
@LouisBeaudoin9 ай бұрын
@@mynameisntbobbybob haha, that was me replying to you on reddit
@chrispig774810 ай бұрын
Thanks for always including the mistakes, gives me a laugh
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
lol! Thanks for watching until the end! 😀
@jcblum15079 ай бұрын
nice
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Thank so much for watching!
@darklord52953 ай бұрын
What I find sad about choosing this light system is that I cannot use my favourite Brooks saddle. :/
@brilliantbikes3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Let’s hope we find a mount for them!
@seluwka302 ай бұрын
bit of a pickle.... my bell mounting bracket only have 2 holes, yours have 4 so no way i can mount it on the left hand side. so the light will be on the left side heh
@brilliantbikes2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Brompton realised this after we made this video and now recommend it is mounted on the left
@effyleven9 ай бұрын
I do not need "be seen" lights, my current Cateye set-up being more than adequate... .. but I am interested in moving my bell (2019) from right side to left side, and installing the new two screw hole (2023) bell on the right. Yes, I want a two bell setup! I believe this is possible. Am I right? TIA.
@AndresGarcia-hu8ij10 ай бұрын
The bell is also on the right side on my Brompton bought in Germany
@j.m.314310 ай бұрын
Klingel kann auch links montiert werden.
@ultragorepictures3 ай бұрын
should be upgraded to USB-C charging connector, Micro USB is not of this time anymore...even apple phones have USB-C now.... (and still the Brompton Dutch and German Official websites don't have Metric specification dimensions.... )
@brilliantbikes3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I know I hate the micro USB cables!
@deepindercheema49175 ай бұрын
I have seen a few tut tut tutting about the USB way of charging. What is the better way which manufacturers should be adoptng as I am still 'old school' charging from laptop, the train etc etc.
@brilliantbikes5 ай бұрын
Many thanks for watching! We prefer USB C
@deepindercheema49175 ай бұрын
Cheers. I am going to discover this new C method right now @@brilliantbikes
@deepindercheema49175 ай бұрын
Just been looking at the C. It reminds me of failsafe connectors in medical equipment. Time for Brompton to get on the new USB C bus at top speed. @@brilliantbikes
@Louisren51210 ай бұрын
No USBC, No Go🥲
@leeellis338210 ай бұрын
Any new on the rear Busch and muller usb light that I’ve paid for on back order
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
I am so sorry for the delay! I was told they should be with us last week, just been onto our supplier and they will be with us this week.
@the987abc9 ай бұрын
Hello, I know this isn’t covered by the video but was wondering if you’ve combined the Brompton quadlock and the metro pouch on the handle bar?!? or you cannot use bpth on the handle bar at the same time? Cause I do not seem to make it work but maybe you guys have. Thank you.
@kanikasingh8899 ай бұрын
Please suggest between the grey borough bag large and the new reflective variation ? Is there any difference between the 2 .
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
We use both! The reflective one will probably be used more now as ‘it’s reflective!’ So good for this time of year It’s also more water resistant - also good for this time of year It partially depends upon your liking of the colours The capacity / features etc are the same
@kanikasingh8899 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikes thanks I guess for a 10€difference it's a good buy, I have a cloud blue it would be more appt.
@MsLori629 ай бұрын
When will these be available in the US?
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
So sorry we just don’t have a timeline for when Brompton will make them available in the US. Thank you for watching!
@marccarter135010 ай бұрын
I stopped watching. I don't even have a Bromton :-)
@ediwowcubao12729 ай бұрын
but why p line flame laquer is not available in online? thanks 😢
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
It should be with us soon! Thanks for watching!
@ediwowcubao12729 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikesyou know the exact date release the p line flame laquer? thanks to answer me
@Stormi199110 ай бұрын
Will the rear light fit on my original T-Line saddle?
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
We think so, but please check the back to see it has the mounting point. Thanks for watching!
@raffylleno71709 ай бұрын
do you have links where to buy?😊
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Sure no problem, thanks for watching! brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-battery-lights/6019-brompton-be-seen-light-set.html
@chafamex2210 ай бұрын
I wanted to get this but I have a Brooks saddle. What kind of grips are those?
@richardbeirne82710 ай бұрын
I assume the answer is "No" or it would have got a mention, but does the rear light have an accelerometer in it to detect braking?
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching - and the great question Your assumption is correct - there is no brake / accelerometer function in the light (unfortunately)
@echostarxАй бұрын
How much do they weight, thanks!
@mynameisntbobbybob10 ай бұрын
How long did the lights last in the end?
@brilliantbikes10 ай бұрын
We are going to do a proper test of them, as we had not even charged them before we ran them flat! We just wanted to show the red light! We will do a short on it.
@mynameisntbobbybob10 ай бұрын
@@brilliantbikes I have them I just haven't fitted yet. Might try and make a 3d printed bracket so can fit on a brooks
@hotrodtiki2009 ай бұрын
I didn’t stop watching. I play by my own rules so get a different rule book.
@brilliantbikes9 ай бұрын
lol! Thank you for watching!
@sfin01as10 ай бұрын
😂 ...if you are in Europe... 😂
@mikstratok9 ай бұрын
micro usb is an insult in 2023
@deepindercheema49175 ай бұрын
I did not know this was a old fashioned - what is the better way?
@mikstratok5 ай бұрын
@@deepindercheema4917 the USB c connector is better