🥉 Bronze To Mythic: Episode 1 - Starting Rank: Bronze 4 - (MTG Arena: Karlov Manor Draft) MKM

[@rascality9714]

Me: "Is Friday! Where is my new episode of BTM!?" Jim 10 minutes later :"Here ya go!"

[@tomsmith4698]

I like seeing Jim draft the new sets because I really get a different perspective and re-evaluate everything because he's just so darn good at limited

[@crushedscouter9522]

petition for south parks "i've got a raging clue" to be added to the soundboard

[@fraginatrix]

I love how the lightning helix emote is getting a whole new lease on life this set lol

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

jim u summed it up perfectly as an old magic player, we used to have great answers and control was a real thing, but the modern trend in magic now is to make the threats better than the removal, and i think that is actually the way you make the game more fun because it rewards players for being proactive which lead to more interesting games than "opp does nothing for 12 turns except kill all my stuff then they kill me wtih 1/1 tokens" or whatever

[@James-ov8pg]

As someone who started around Shadows of Innistrad and is a huge fan of control, I see what you're saying. However, control when I started playing is afaik, very engaging and different from old school, "draw, go" style control. I actually lost interest in Magic for a while because it was all about casting the biggest bomb or most broken card and not so much of the mental game that I love about playing control (and poker). Trying to figure out what your op is doing (or trying to hide what you're doing) without it just being in your face, smacking you down with ETBs and haste is a beautiful and necessary aspect of magic imo. Different play styles and radically different deck building should be encouraged and supported.

[@SimplySimonLP]

hell yeah let's go I think it's worth paying attention to how many Detectives you incidentally pick up. Thinking Cap is extremely good if you have a 1 mana equip target, and there's a LOT of dudes that happen to be detectives. Jim completely ignored like three of them in the draft and I think one was absolutely playable here.

[@FlourescentPotato]

Right, felt like Jim was railroading / dismissing a lot of this draft out of hand with some quick decisions.

[@DrCat-vq6yo]

The reason I wanted him to pick up one or two of the Thinking Caps he kept passing without discussion is that he picked up an Agency Outfitter which he immediately put in the sideboard - and then passed EVERY Magnifying Glass and eveny Thinking Cap without any consideration at all. He easily could have had the set of three, which seems like it could quite easily make Agency Outfitter a solid playable. And he could have used VERY late picks and not given up much of anything to get them.

[@MarvelOfRain]

@@DrCat-vq6yo I think the Outfitter wasn't what the deck needed given the curve, power level and number of detectives. But I agree he should have taken at least one Glass to have the option. They were free picks. In the end the Outfiter probably still is too slow for this. He fits better as a top end of an aggressive deck IMO.

[@MarvelOfRain]

21:00 - note that this is only partially correct. The rule only makes it so you cannot beat a 2/2 before 5 mana, but there are several x/2 cards that can trade with a 3/3 in combat. There is also a chance their card will get them some extra value on top of the trade. Notable examples are: Dog Walker, Gadget Technician, Museum Nightwatch and Shady Informant. All of these can kill a 3/3 and trading your morph for them can be a blowout. I would say unless your creature is awful (for example a disguise creature you can't flip for several turns) it is still not worth blocking their disguise creature if they swing into you.

[@raduprofeanu6891]

Bronze to Mythic up finally i can learn the format… good luck Jim.

[@Journeyman2585]

I really like the idea of the over/under line being more malleable. Very dope.

[@Luke_Himself]

Watching this series always saves me at least a dozen drafts of muddling through and learning on my own...thanks for saving me money Jim❤️

[@Arcadio_Castellanoz]

THE AMONG US GRAPHIC IM DEAD 🤣🤣 well done Jim and/or any Piledrivers who may have come up with the idea

[@TheCapnReynolds]

I have to say that the locked hothouse has been absurd every time I've encountered it, I don't think I've ever won a game after my opponent solved it

[@phil817]

You know this theme song really does slap.

[@Legsman258]

i also pulled vein ripper for my first draft! i got 7 wins so i’m gonna go ahead and believe!!

[@raneemfathy2581]

So so excited for BtM

[@mikemcintosh9933]

Always follow this series with interest. GLHF. Hard to calculate the O/U. The skill testing mechanics make the set in your favor, but the power creep will artificially increase the performance of newer players. At the end of the day let's assume skill beats luck. Under.

[@jakewaller7760]

Never seen Jim draft such a high curve, excited to see how he deals with that

[@mattfenner7824]

Not the Among Us cut in XD The production value keeps going up, you love to see it!

[@ed_ky1153]

RAHHHHHH I'VE BEEN WAITING, I'M SO EXCITED 😤😤 😤 BELIEVERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

[@FringedRecord]

I like the change for the line. Makes a lot of sense and I already have had a couple fun drafts this set. Excited to watch this run

[@1997Awesomedude]

I got a kick out of Jim not saying "Murders" at the start but then drafting the card murder and saying the name an almost comical amount of times

[@snackplaylove]

The start of the video is more sensitive. Still expecting “Murder the cracker” *demonetised*

[@zekelockman1477]

IT'S HERE WHEN WE NEEDED IT MOST!!

[@gandahl3830]

Started watching these last set and been loving it! good luck :D

[@DiscardatRandom]

I was very skeptical about this set at first but drafting is fun

[@maxmcmaster]

so, i guess im optimistic today. im gonna BELIEVER on this one and also go with the UNDER in total! looks like a complex set, which favors Jim a lot more than others.

[@Randomguynumber3]

excited for a new season, good luck on getting the under

[@tomdem2]

Thanks Jim, only youtuber I regularly watch

[@GP-sz8mj]

Let’s go, it’s back, Interesting set for draft and 10/10 for soundboard this round 🎉

[@enricomassignani]

My first impression is that Blue is gonna be the best color because A) card draw is good and B) the fliers and tappy stuff at common (Granite Witness and Out Cold) let you turn the corner quite fast. Opinions?

[@Arcadio_Castellanoz]

First draft of the new set, you bet I’m going BELIEVER! I will also take the under on this set, I think Jim eats with all these complex play decisions in this format.

[@illbeback111]

Looking forward to the season. Believer for this one in bronce this might just do the trick.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

cool to see a blue -black deck do well

[@davidbain7629]

Out cold is one of my favorite in this set

[@mathijs1987j]

1:36:00 you could disguise and then flip Granite Witness, untapping the Hedge Whisperer, thereby unmaking the 5/5. Keep the removal spell for something better.

[@sometimesisetfires]

Love the content!! Happy to support ❤. Any tips on hitting mythic on constructed? I'm playing standard using the domain deck. Can't seem to get past Diamond tier 2.

[@kennylawler4456]

Petitioning for Pirates of the Caribbean "I said no lies!" quip to be added to the soundboard for "No More Lies." Mostly for explorer.

[@peggle09]

I had about 10 morphs in my pre release even, was fun to play them and the ward is very nice. I also had double vein ripper and massacre girl. So fun.

[@robertmorris4163]

Very informative

[@Solsiva]

I bet on under and believer for this draft. Looks like a fun set!

[@winstongarvey1225]

Wow that last opponent was reeeaaally trying to throw that game. They had lethal like 4 turns in a row

[@bkseventy]

love the content, thanks!

[@phillipsullivan9614]

Just won my LGS set release party sealed event thanks to B2M!!! Love limited play and JD

[@jordanmesibov6012]

BRONZE TO MYTHIC IS BACK BABYYYY

[@danielwamser6054]

33:05 you are right they might have something. but not applying the max pressure might also help a color srewed opponent to catch up. I'm never sure what to do in spots like that.

[@jakewaller7760]

Like the new way you're handling the line. Think you'll make the under (but for more content, I'd rather you were over)

[@iamthefinal5934]

My last Karlov draft i drafter 2 Anzrag (Mole God), I never drew either of them. This man gets Vein Ripper every game though? Magic man... Magic XD

[@tasteoftacos]

Im gonna go with over 22.5. This set seems pretty confusing for me compared to some previous years. Plus the potential spikeness of the new play boosters are also kind of make me think some games may be tougher. Hope you prove me wrong

[@jean-paulpitman2172]

Awesome deck, love the splash.

[@randomness5435]

huge BELIEVER on this one

[@suqdic]

And so it begins.

[@jorzolek01]

It seemed like UW was extremely open. Hope the games go well!

[@andrewp6738]

Going over based on the recent few drafts but the set looks fun regardless

[@richardberger2835]

I'm a believer!

[@jamespearsoniii914]

Writing this start of game 1: calling over 22.5, with the format feeling rather bomb-y.

[@enricomassignani]

You said at the beginning play boosters have more cards, but isn't there 1 less card actually? (13 non-bbasic-land instead of 14)

[@andreluis6761]

Yeah! New season!

[@MartinR31416]

Loved the emergency meeting xD

[@ututat7326]

Workin' on it!

[@SnoopyKun]

It's lightning helix omg!

[@Guevon_Pajaro]

Over under I got you under, believer! It's unfortunately probably gonna be a simple aggro format. (in retrospect a week late, I know) I had hope with the morphs and really like UB, but yeah. I think you can solve the format simple enough. Edit: cool deck, but slow, but I enjoy this dimir deck. The brutal way it ended was too bad

[@warrenjoyer9422]

Branch of Vitu-Ghazi, if it's face down as a 2/2, in combat (let's say it blocks), before damage is dealt you flip it over and it becomes a land. That must take it out of combat right? It would not suffer the damage from the attacking creature it blocked as a land right?

[@SimplySimonLP]

Even if it receieved the damage, it's now a land - nothing would happen to it, it can't get dealt more damage than its toughness because it doesn't have a toughness anymore

[@Drk-qd9qc]

Everyone compares cases to sagas, but aren't they really closer to classes from AFR/CLB?

[@DaxRaider]

one correction you say the play boosters have "more cards" in tehm but they have less 13 instead of 15. expect if you mean more in that there are also "other" cards in

[@nickdemunguia1107]

Your dopplegang would’ve been capped at x = 2, it doesn’t say up to x target creatures, and you can’t target the same creature more than once.

[@nickdemunguia1107]

Correction: didn’t see it said permanents. But yeah, 3 5/5 s would’ve been max, along with 3 other creatures and 3 lands. lol

[@JoseHerrera-hv1ql]

Finally It arrives!

[@JFlynn1207]

OMG the evidence sound byte is from Jesus christ superstar? Love it

[@JoeyTrotz]

What time does Jim typically stream b2m on Twitch?

[@BronzeToMythic]

usually during the week, I post the schedule each week on my Twitter - twitter.com/JimDavisMTG/status/1754583522872873265 It's also just on the twitch schedule as well!

[@desmondnathanson4389]

Believer AND under!

[@GuitarHeroKing55]

i’ve had fun playing jetsam on people because they are usually better drafters than me so i almost always get a good card

[@vaclavnovak1693]

what does he use for the card rating to show up?

[@ascap21]

Is that LA Noire on the soundboard?

[@beanbean_5233]

Lmao I love the among us effects please continue to use them ❤

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

22:39 It did not click wih me until this second that the 2 or less stuff in this set synergizes with the morphs. Vein Ripper's worst case being a 2-for-1 that also drains for 4 is pret-ty stupid in limited.

[@nerfinatorrr9981]

"Got some giraffes to do" jim say whaaa?

[@FrankDTank16]

ez believe, that mythic seems busted

[@Drakksy]

LETS GOOOOO IM SO EXCITED

[@garyg.1979]

Out Cold is pretty darn good.

[@DiscardatRandom]

Its this set’s cut in

[@davestier6247]

If you cast doppelgang for 8 or more it should just say "you win the game"

[@mattconw]

I think you'll go under with 22.5 in a morph set it's so much about playing smart and not just drafting good cards

[@seanyboymccabe]

My accusation is Jim in the stream with the under.

[@robertmorris4163]

Believer

[@Frysinger18]

You put more swamps in the deck but I feel like you drew more islands every game.

[@JimDavisMTG]

every time!

[@sinjinvancleef2708]

BELIEVER

[@peterochacewich6388]

Let's go!

[@Cachai_]

11!

[@SimplySimonLP]

Having watched the episode now, I think Jim is a bit stuck on always getting the absolute maximum value out of cards, especially Steamcore Scholar. He almost didn't take it despite it being a ridiculous bomb because "oh what if I don't want to discard two cards". Like, think about it this way: if you really have absolutely nothing in your hand you want to discard AND draw two insane spells, then it's basically like a 3 mana 2/2 vigilance mill two and you just happened to mill two great cards. Bad luck but it happens, and this is in a format where you don't mind having high-cost spells in your GY, so it might even be beneficial down the line. However, that's not what it says, it says, absolute baseline, etb LOOT two (not mill). You cannot tell me that ever time you cast it, you have two completely unbelievably insane spells in your hand that you NEVER want to lose and you'll ALWAYS draw two cards that you ALSO want to cast. In fact, there's good evidence against that: in pretty much every game except the super long last one, Jim ended the game with a bunch of spells in hand. You literally cannot cast every spell in modern Limited if you deck works well because you just win or lose before that happens. Especially in a format where you might just end up pumping 8 mana into a morph + flip and not, in fact, cast two spells instead of the flip. So once again, just discard the stuff you don't need right now. It's fine. And finally, it doesn't say loot two, it says draw two and discard a spell or flier. Jim has done it twice already, discarded a whatever combat trick that didn't help him. His opp showed him that it was better for them to discard the 3/3 flier and keep two other spells. Jim said "oh they discarded that, their hand must be insane" like yeah, they just drew two cards that, together, were more valuable than said flier. Of course the hand is insane, the Scholar made it that way. Basically what I'm saying is, in that one game where Jim couldn't cast the Vein Ripper but had a Scholar in hand, and also the 2/1 artifact creature, just slam the Scholar, draw towards the Swamp you need, and discard WHATEVER else you draw (hell, it might be an Island!) and that useless 2/1. Jim was so afraid of having to discard spells that he didn't want to add an amazing creature to the board + set up his instantly game winning bomb.

[@hannesneven3644]

This is going to be a under set I can feel it , But I also don’t want it to be because then we see more drafts 🎉

[@qasimabdul-baki6919]

I think I missed this set after buying D2R

[@themadtenor]

Dimir believer bby

[@toddschulman7941]

I think over but I feel if you always chose the best card and not always playing the rare you would be under more often.

[@BronzeToMythic]

#1 goal is to learn, explore the format, and entertain, not make mythic as fast as humanly possible

[@davidbain7629]

Under! I'm a jim believer

[@benwilliams5786]

UNDER. With 22.5, you have that extra wiggle-room for bad drafts, and the format favors those with more knowledge thanks to disguise cards being everywhere.

[@Yuginerfer371]

Slam the under

[@michaelthompson6849]

Dua Leecha

[@EltWilder]

Oooof.

[@rukuswrath8172]

UNDER!!!

[@adamgreen6051]

!

[@snackplaylove]

UNDER please :)

[@socraticsimpleton]

believer

[@miguelmartinvivar6489]

So many missplays on the games, could have been much cleaner just reading cards and bot using the tap spell so early and on his turn that many times