Brood War Mass Recall: Protoss Campaign - Part 1

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[@ghost_curse]

I think the biggest thing against the playable executor in this campaign being Selendis is that at the end of the Safe Haven mission in WoL she says "you are as brave and cunning as *the stories* say." It sounds like she's only heard about him through the other Protoss

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

It not like you see him a bunch in the BW Protoss campaign though. You could make the argument she only really did here about him from others.

[@JayborinoPlays]

Green eyed Zeratul been real nervous since OG orange eyed Zeratul dropped

[@brimbrim5389]

chad hybrid dominator dominator vs senile old dt

[@willbrolley262]

I love Selendis, so anything that can be reasonably explained as having 100% more of her is a plus in my book.

[@tedculbertson6320]

Unfortunately, I don't think it's Selendis. For one thing, that would mean that she and Jim had met before Wings of Liberty.

[@alexashton6501]

@@tedculbertson6320 That could be explained by the requirement to introduce her to the player/audience more than to Raynor

[@ezcyberpup]

@@tedculbertson6320 it could also be that enough time had passed that raynor didnt remember her

[@The_Aleph_Null]

weird character to love but aight. im happy loving the overmind, aldaris, bitch broodwar kerrigan, and at most from sc2 the autistic zerg dude that makes upgrades

[@Etropalker]

Zeratul doing his best to pretend he is sad the conclave died is just amazing.

[@WrathOfMega]

I love how even in the very first intro to brood war you can tell that Aldaris has eaten so much humble pie that he's having trouble sitting up in his chair.

[@mercerholt8299]

Well given how wrong he was last time I'd hope he'd have eaten at least a little serving. Just goes to show he wasn't evil just stubborn.

[@Bliss467]

Honestly I don't know if he was ever remotely evil, just proud and law-abiding. He had a character arc where he realized the law is flawed. Now that the law is gone, he's figuring out what to dedicate himself to in its place.

[@mercerholt8299]

@@Bliss467 Its not that the the law is gone per say its just been proven to be flawed which in some ways is even worse especially given the context of this system last possibly millions of years.

[@vumasster]

I always thought Aldaris looked like a wrist watch

[@Buffalen]

@@archsteel7 I’d blame the other Protoss/Kerrigan for that one tbh, he was spot on about not trusting Kerrigan and nobody cared

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

I also really liked this mission growing up, I still think it's one of my favorite no-build missions. There's nothing really special about it, you can't really lose unless you're an idiot, but I think the theming is on point. Rather than just "another Terran installation", you're walking through the fields of Auir, which makes it feel way more organic and less claustrophobic. I like that you keep running into rescuable Protoss who are in mid-combat with the Zerg throughout the mission, it really feels like you are still IN THE MIDDLE of a war zone. I feel like you can really intuitively feel the objective by playing the mission; there are Zerg everywhere, you are cutting your way through them, and you are trying to escape before they overwhelm you. It's simple, but very effective.

[@contagiouspenguin9849]

jimmy raynor is like the younger brother you let use an unplugged remote to keep them happy while you play

[@Zoabdy]

"Hey guys, I'm here on my tricked out vulture bike to help you fight the unending waves of malice and death!"

[@FireallyXTheories]

Selendis in StarCraft 2 says she's heard of Raynor and couldn't wait to see him in combat, which leads to believe that she's not the executor in this mission, since she'd have first-hand experience with Raynor prior to SC2.

[@mikhalin977]

The part with the zealot army is actually not that hard to pass with no deaths. All you have to do is select all the fighting zealots and retreat as fast as possible, then use Zeratul to slowly clean it all up, occasionally running from overlords. I think it took me like... 10 reloads? Something like that, the rest of the mission is relatively easy, good luck if you ever decide to do it

[@Razr750]

Selendis being the Executor of BW was, obviously, never officially confirmed. However, she was promoted to Executor and served under Artanis after the Great War. It's my personal headcanon, but you can realistically go either way.

[@brandonoflight8274]

Muta/scourge was so good they had to make an entire expansion pack to counter it

[@TheFreakEscape]

There is also the "extra hero appearances" which gives you Raszagal at...x8 I believe, and Dugalle in one of the Terran campaigns. It also added Fenix on the final Protoss mission of episode III I believe

[@juicy9897]

I hope Duran has some fun abilities because he's in 2 campaigns and if he sucks you just have to babysit him.

[@blakabaka8184]

The most memorable moment from this mission is pair of scourge in 4:12

[@nerdsfailme4166]

Don't worry about this being a short episode - you're using the time for other work. Take these when you can get them :)

[@fare-5174]

They did a great job by giving Zeratul blink in MR, but the same thing with it bypassing triggers happened to me and please for the love of god make the trigger lines bigger on maps with Zeratul.

[@InturnetHaetMachine]

Along this I'm watching your BW co-op with 7thAce and loving it.

[@Vicioussama]

I did SC1 deathless in BW unintentionally, thuogh that part? yea, I reset it a LOT (It was unintentional up to that part then went "screw it!" ) and ya... holy shit.

[@weltsiebenhundert]

Overload can detect Cloaked Zeratul ....

[@TsarDragon]

Selendis? We play as a guuurrl in Starcraft. Dansgame

[@Wraithfighter]

I think Jim’s presence in the Protoss mission showed something that Starcraft 2 really could’ve used more of: Outsiders among the main heroes. Someone whose viewpoint is so notably different from the main cast that they help shed a light on things. It just made things seem more universal and real, rather than every faction feeling so heavily segmented...

[@lucifersatan8240]

Well No protoss would have followed raynor's raiders and No terran or protoss would join the swarm, so only terran joining protoss is possible and they already Did that.

[@lucifersatan8240]

@@aaronscott7467 You are telling me some random zergling would not have riped him apart before Kerrigan could stop it as soon as he got on to the Leviathan? I ment not only would No terran or protoss want to, but if they tried the zerg would kill them.

[@Wraithfighter]

@@lucifersatan8240 I can see one unusual Protoss deciding to help Raynor out, feeling that the Terran was worthy of that kind of respect. I mean, he helped destroy the Overmind, Protoss trip over themselves to give him props whenever he interacts with them, it wouldn’t be too hard. For HOTS? No, no Protoss or Terran would’ve joined the swarm, but been a captive, like that Protoss for a couple missions on the frost world? Or maybe just have Stukov show up much earlier in the campaign and help out. That campaign desperately needed a different perspective from the Zerg-dominated one, just to make things a bit less one-note.

[@joshuakim5240]

Honestly, Nyod and the Tal'Darim during WoL should have been a temporary allied faction who turn on Raynor later. Have some dialogue about the Protoss and Tal'Darim ways of life and perspective, a lot of it against Terran concepts, making it understandable why he'd be fought later. Stukov also should have showed up in HoTS way earlier for his UED culture clashing with the Zerg and Korprulu Terran values. LoTV...actually did a fairly good job with this with all of the Protoss faction leaders' different cultures and goals clashing at times. Loved Rohana's disgust with orifices as a glimpse into what physical traits the Protoss find weird compared to our standards, completely alien and petty yet from their logic and culture makes perfect sense,

[@Aliencommander1245]

@@lucifersatan8240 You have a little of stukov fulfilling a similar role in the last little bit of hots, and origionally the protoss woman you put a parasite in was intended to stick around after the Kaldir missions and act in this role, slowly coming to realize kerrigan wasn't the same as the Queen of blades over the course of the campaign

[@Necrohellion]

Grant dodging the trigger location with Zeratul blink at 9:19 and needing to wander around is a great way to end the mission :)

[@tacticaldroidtx22]

8:58 You know... There is an option in the Mass Recall menu to enable extra hero appearences. If you would have enabled it, you would have gotten Fenix on Eye of the Storm for example. And, not only does it add already existing heroes in missions where they make sense, but it adds completely new heroes! Suffice to say, there are some very nice surprises on the last protoss mission and the last U.E.D. mission if you were to enable that option...

[@hallymiao2825]

@@Blazieth like that almost instant death boss fight in "Into the Darkness"? Oh cool.. a new boss fight.. oh shit getting stormed, and reynor is already about to die.. better run and throw grenades oh grenade hotkey doesn't work because of mass recall hotkey issues... rip reynor and now to restart the entire thing because reynor died in 2 seconds into a surprise fight.

[@silverhand9965]

@@hallymiao2825 Yeah but at the same time you have tassadar with feedback in that mission. Enough to almost oneshot Kerrigan and completely prevent her from casting spells

[@luxuponlux5033]

Excuse me, the Protoss home-world is Ayou're, not Ayour, and either way, this is a formal setting, so you should be using Ayou Are.

[@poilboiler]

It's impossible for hybrids to be there.

[@chrayez]

@@poilboiler contractions on AYouAre? Impossible!

[@HellecticMojo]

@@chrayez will you be silent?! *rubs solarite*

[@tezereth]

*ayou’re

[@TheHalogen131]

I think Brood War is the high point of Blizzard world building and writing. It's not terribly complicated, but the story is SO engaging. The UED absolutely deserves to be a fan favourite and all the other stuff is also great. I hope you won't skip the UED intro and share your thoughts on it with us, Grant!

[@ldn_rumrunner]

I don't know if an oppressive fascist world government that seeks to control an entire alien race to use as a weapon "deserves to be a fan favourite" but I like SC2's story so what do I know

[@TheHalogen131]

@@ldn_rumrunner Yes. They absolutely do deserve it. If only because of how dangerous they are and how close did they come to absolutely fucking up the whole Koprulu. And that was merely an expedition fleet, not an invading force.

[@MagicMan3K]

I absolutely love the UED and if anything a DLC story could have been made for SCII much like Nova. You're telling me Earth sent that big ass fleet and when it didn't return, they didn't send a recon unit or transmission (yes they're tons of lightyears away but still)? Nah, the UED with all it's might invading the Koprulu sector would spill disaster for all, even for a demi god Kerrigan.

[@Protolisk]

I do love how "out of the frying pan, into the fire" the first few missions of BW feel. Like, even the epilogue at the end of the last missions mentions the rampant zerg on Aiur as a footnote, so this takes place directly after makes it feel like such a scramble to escape.

[@elonstruths1475]

It's possible Aldaris himself is more reasonable than the rest of the Conclave. So he's still prejudiced against Dark Templar, but leaving Aiur to find and execute Tassadar while claiming the zerg are not a problem (which is really the only absolutely insane thing he did) was not his idea.

[@Arthutstut641]

I love how Jim is just happy to be there throughout the protoss campaigns.

[@mr.lithifcation7815]

Artanis looks like my sleep paralysis demon

[@yonokhanman654]

He looked like this in the original Brood War. He even had piercings in his "shoulders". It's just that his old look mended perfectly with the old graphics, while not fitting in with SC2 graphics.

[@mr.lithifcation7815]

@@yonokhanman654 my point still stands. I was kind of afraid of Artanis when I was younger

[@pantuternik]

On lower graphics settings, Artanis looks even worse... If you don't like it there is an option in the Mass Recall launcher to switch his portrait to SC2 If you'd prefer to keep it, then i guess that upping the graphics settings might help, but I don't know if your PC would like that.

[@poilboiler]

He is absolutely hideous!

[@TheHalogen131]

@@poilboiler True. But his voice is the best in all of StarCraft. I remember flying with him during that no-build platform mission and just listening to him saying "Indeed"

[@kingoli9565]

He looks like a mutated cola and lemonade gummy bear.

[@kirlandiya]

Don't think this episode really holds up to the previous ones. It starts out real fun, but not worth watching after 10:43 minute mark or so.

[@mariuszmykowiecki3232]

I can confirm saving all zealots in 5:35 is possible, i did it once in a past.

[@col.popcorn3446]

So there's no confirmation that this executor is Selendis, but its better than the alternative that they were just retconed out of existence

[@MrZestubo]

Re: player as Selendis- it seems unlikely, since she seems to only know Jim by reputation in WoL campaign, but idk. It'd be neat.

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

If we follow the logic of this being her first shot in command, then its not really a stretch to say she actually hasn't really gotten to know him. He only appears here and in mission 2 for her.

[@MagicMan3K]

@@aaronscott7467 but given that the Protoss are a honor based fighting race, even a "tiny bit" of viewing would be enough for her to recall his actions in person instead of reputation. And since only 30% of Aiur escaped, everyone basically knows Jim first hand. Not to mention, he's really the "only" Terran there, so missing him in action is pretty difficult. She must have been on the other side of Aiur tbh to have only heard about Jim.

[@incubus828]

I started playing this game when I was 5 or 6, so I totally understand the sentiment of loving the no-build segments. I remember watching my dad play this game and just falling in love with the universe. Almost 20 years later, even though Blizzard has made some questionable decisions, I still love the universe.

[@sgt.hirntot8580]

I love that me (2002) had the same starcraft1 experience when I was 10 cause my father takes his education duty very seriously xD We played 1v1 and when i was (unable to figure out how to beat a single lurker) was loosing we switched laptops so i got his maxed out cattle bruiser army. XD. Hey everyone was a kid once

[@s-man5647]

I'm excited to hear Grant's thoughts on the valkyrie and the devourer. Those are the only two units, I think, that didn't get featured in official StarCraft 2 content. Really wonder how their gameplay mechanics would match up.

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

If I remember right, I think the Valkyrie had a cameo in Heart of the swarm during that one mission you controlled the Hyperion as one of the mini fighters that spawned. Though that is a very small footnote in the legacy of SC2.

[@thomasfleming8131]

While they aren't part of any campaigns, Devourers do show up as part of Abathur's roster for Co-op at least

[@goldengolem4670]

At this point Zeratul is acting like Aldaris' adoptive parent after the conclave "abandoned" him.

[@jemmerl]

Zeratul sounds like he's smiling inside while acknowledging Jim. Almost like a parent to a child just happy to be involved.

[@xetanth87]

Blizzard says that the ep 3 executor is Artanis but IMO it makes no sense. The executor in ep 3 talks a lot with Tassadar and in BW Artanis says he isn't worthy to even speak his name. How does that even work? It would make a lot more sense if the ep 3 and 4 executor was the same person and was Selendis or someone else.

[@rosethorn7255]

You can use Remastered portraits, if i recall (pun not intended) in options. Not sure if you can zero in on who, but normally they do do that.

[@thefirelordfire9673]

At a guess Aldaruis is suffering from shock it would explain his sudden change in personality and sudden compliance with everything

[@CC-tl3zs]

Did anyone find that infographic Grant talked about at the end of the briefing?

[@ianwhelan-miller90]

Boy Potato Artanis sure is happy to be here.

[@realLagMaster]

Graaant! Hello, thank you for the content! This is what I believe as well, Selendis is the PC in Brood war protos

[@ChristopherCubbage]

4:15 Oh hey btw grant, those aren't sc2 nydus, but sc1 nydus canals, so they look different to confer that, they are just openeds from one place to another, inside of one opening and many peaceable nydus "heads", which I know you know that but still

[@stupidgoop]

Artanis is actually a sneak preview of the groups next project: Lego Starcraft. (In all seriousness thats just how Artanis is, Ive got the latest update and hes still weirdly... smooth.)

[@QuestionableObject]

Artanis be like "PUT ME BACK IN I'M NOT DONE" god that is some raw chicken looking skin he's got

[@SeriousApache]

Selendis is executor in this campaign, and she in direct command over Artanis. But somehow at the Starcraft 2 point Artanis get promoted to Protoss president. Male characters get promotion faster then female. Blizzard is well known for being sexist.

[@saisundernarous9137]

The executor for Broodwar Protoss, is the same as normal Starcraft Protoss, it’s Artanis How do I know this? The wiki and retcon But Starcraft 1 is why Artanis leads the Protoss in two. I don’t know why there’s all this confusion and idea it’s Selendis, previous Protoss campaign someone covered that lord wise. The executor of SC1 was Artanis, and since they follow each other, logic says it’s still artanis. Now, how Artanis is the executor when he was just promoted after tassadar dies? Go fight blizzard I’m not in charge of the continuity But keep in mind Raynor would’ve been the PC in Rebel yell (Terran campaign 1) if they could’ve fit it into the lore.

[@RanVor]

Wha-? What unholy abomination is this? ...Oh, nevermind, it's just Artanis.

[@LegendaryLycanthrope]

You know, that briefing always confused me...what the fuck actually happened to the Conclave? The beginning of the final mission in the base game implied they were still around, now suddenly they're gone? Did they somehow get wiped out in the interim between the beginning of the assault on the Overmind and its death, or was that some massive retcon?

[@lucifersatan8240]

Wait you where 7 when SC came out? I was 7 when I started playing it. Conicidence? I think not. (I'm Grant now.)

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

Ah, Yes. The Dark Templar. Those fanatical hippy psychics who committed the blasphemous act of _cutting their damn hair!_

[@PegbordFegs]

Tassadar could've been reborn as a Dragoon, but he didn't know how to drive a stick shift.

[@insignificantgnat9334]

So was it really necessary to evacuate Auir? Fenix and Raynor spent half the game camped out by the warp gate and seemed like they had no problems until Duran and the UED showed up and kicked the hornet's nest.

[@JudgeAnnibal]

What's the correct Plural for Nydus? Nyduses or Nydusi? Or Nydi? just like with Colossus->Colossi or Nexus->Nexi

[@poilboiler]

Depends on if it's origin is greek or latin, or anything else. Of course it might just have completely arbitrary grammar because english is weird like that. :p

[@orangesouls7112]

The plural is worms. Earth worms aren't "earths", silk worms aren't "silks", so the pattern dictates your answer.

[@QuestionableObject]

I think what happened with Aldaris is that after the end of the previous campaign chapter he's gone and eaten every slice of humble pie there is to be had. Unfortunately his not-mouth is so full of humble pie he can't manage to explain important details clearly.

[@Sorenzo]

When he says it's good to see more brethren on the battlefield, I think he means that he's used to fighting alone or in small squads as a Dark Templar, and that he's glad to be part of a united front.

[@ChristopherCubbage]

2:55 Enter in, "Edgtanis"(Artanis64), like he looks hella messed up 😂😂😂

[@poiuyt975]

Wasn't Artanis supposed to be the player's charcater in Brood War? Or was that in the base Starcraft? As for Aldaris, I think he has a really good and underappreciated character arc in the two campaigns.

[@theduke3778]

I've heard "I know of a place where we can find solace" soooo many times from playing Keystone. It's weird hearing the original audio

[@Evan-mt7bc]

SC1 Artanis Jump scare. Also it's debatable that the Executor in episode 4 is Selendis. The only thing supporting her is that she is an Executor in SC2 and knows firsthand of Raynor's deeds on Aiur being the only SC2 Executor to mention Raynor while everyone else sans Artanis and Zeratul are pretty bung headed about Raynor but again iirc there's virtually no evidence that hard denies that she ISN'T the episode 4 executor. It's one of those lore tidbits that if it were confirmed it wouldn't change anything but it also isn't confirmed.

[@Aliencommander1245]

There's more evidence than that, Selendis' first appearance in the lore is during the DT saga trilogy of books, during which she expresses knowledge and first hand experience about the Enslavers campaigns (two lots of narrative light extra missions for SC1 and Brood war, that got expanded out to become the core of that trilogy of books) which involved missions back to aiur that were kept secret from the rest of the daelaam (because there was evidence uncovered there were still surviving protoss on aiur, and the daelaam had no resources to go and stage a large scale rescue mission). Given those missions were carried out by the BW executor, Selendis' position of priveldged knowledge about them and being there imply she was the one in command, though it doesn't confirm it.

[@MichelCarajo]

Mandatory comment saying I love this playthrough and thank you so much for all the content you provide.

[@ChristopherCubbage]

Also please if you already love a challenge, which I know you do 😉, and have extra hero abilities on, you might as well do the new start of broodwar with the extra heros for the lore and extra enemy ones!!! 😈😊

[@JoebiniRoblete]

Because you blinked Zeratul past the gate the trigger didn't work.

[@sergiua5511]

I laughed like 5 minutes when i saw the scuffed artanis portrait XD

[@Kazaki000]

2:59 I just died when Ali-express Artanis joins the conversation xD

[@sindrisuncatcher653]

Artanis just looks like that at this point in the timeline. It's the protoss equivalent of acne.

[@sober667]

Starcraft 1 deathless sounds horrible but diable i guess like they say where is the willl there is a way

[@Epzilon12]

Artanis looked like he was wearing a white ninja mask to me at first and it was hilarious

[@Achillez098]

By Adun, what is wrong with Artanis' face??!!

[@besNait]

Maybe he had a fight with an ultralisk before the call.

[@dotgone]

Terrazine, not even once.

[@SquaredSmith]

Ok now the final has aired I shall watch them all at once

[@The_DGO]

9:19 you blinked over the trigger for loading the final trigger

[@fulguratingbean9489]

So, I'm not going to argue over whether Artanis looked better in Sc1 or SC2 because that's a matter of taste. What I don't get is why they changed his appearance so fundamentally between games. Also, I imagine I got lucky, but I once completed this mission without taking any HP damage, so yeah, deathless is definitely possible.

[@LegendaryLycanthrope]

What actually changed between the two games besides the color of his eyes and his donning of garb appropriate to his station as Hierarch? His overall appearance doesn't seem to have changed overly much between the two games, other than being given far higher detail in SC2.

[@JessWLStuart]

I've always wondered - what to Protoss eat?

[@kamikazegargoyle]

Jim doesn't know Selendis in WoL so I don't buy that headcanon BTW that Zealot event is the only bit that Oblivion couldn't do deathless on SC1

[@Miko101]

I'd buy it considering Jim and Fenix get separated from the rest of the stand so it's not like he got time to know Selendis at this point. He and Fenix roaved around alone then with Kerrigan until she backstabbed them. Jim never meets up with Artanis and the others until after the queen of blades

[@L3FT2BURN]

Artanis, my boy, what have they done to you?

[@ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet]

Who is that Artanis doppelganger?

[@joaovitorreisdasilva9573]

Artanis looks like somekind of caveprotoss D:

[@Talon771]

Random comment for channel interaction.

[@cEighteen]

i lost it when artanis appeared

[@MasterShanicus]

Artanis is stuck in 64 graphics because he hasn't yet proven himself as Leader of the Protoss. He's gotta earn those graphics, just like how he's gotta earn some clothing. ...which is actually weird, now that I think about it. He's the *leader* of the Protoss yet he's wearing like, a bandolier and a loincloth. It's wild. Maybe he couldn't get dressed during the invasion and was just stuck running around in his undies until they could get established on Sha'kurr.

[@LegendaryLycanthrope]

He wasn't made Hierarch until after the Brood War was over, so he can be forgiven for not wearing something more befitting that station.

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

heck by this point he hasn't even gotten his armor yet. If I recall right in this chapters final cinematic he just has a loin cloth and a shoulder pad on lol.

[@Caldaris]

Think Artanis is having a bad face day... Yay glitches!

[@RBEO22]

SC1 ultras look better

[@weltsiebenhundert]

9:00 This ULTRA is so small

[@davidburnett5049]

Talking about Aiur, it makes me think little we see of protoss civilians if there are any. There are no kids or anything. Probably prevents the setting from being revolting.. Because with protoss kids they'd probably have been killed by the Zerg.. Anyway just rambling.

[@pietrolecchi3624]

It cannot be Selendis, because when she meets Raynor in starcraft 2 she says that the stories about him are true, impling that she never met him in person. (feel free to prove me wrong)

[@HellecticMojo]

tbf, Raynor only appears for this mission and next for a brief moment. Next time we see Raynor, he's with Felix's command.

[@pietrolecchi3624]

Ok you're right

[@davidkang5626]

What I would like for a SC2 playthrough would be to play with a balanced/somewhat-lore-friendly unit composition. I think that would be interesting instead of spamming just one unit. Maybe give that a try. :)

[@AJMSecond]

ok, sure, this executor being selendis sounds reasonable, but how could chadtanis be the executor in the last one? Even if he got replaced by selendis for betraying the conclave, why would he need to introduce himself in this mission? it just seems like lazy retconing years after broodwar

[@Kazaki000]

10:20 actually, you can, if you take Reynor and Fenix before they finish their dialogue to the beacon, they are teleported :P

[@arrcaptain6672]

Nice

[@Centurian128]

I am 100% cool with this Executor being Selendis

[@bigguy7439]

Is there any way you could do a guide on how to install and get mass recall to work? I would love to play these myself

[@Mistersheeaun]

I finally caught up!! I love this series!

[@tacticaldroidtx22]

It is pretty much settled that you play as Artanis in "The Fall". I am not as certain about you playing as Selendis in "The Stand" though but, it is widely accepted among the fandom. There's an interesting theory I've heard that Selendis was actually the executor who was commanding the Conclave's forces you fight in "The Fall" which I though was cool but, there is no evidence for it either.

[@Aliencommander1245]

If selendis was the executor in Brood War then she was probably given the position during sc1, after Artanis was stripped of it. It's the kind of thing that's only evidence is a string of implications, but it's interesting

[@rwarrawr]

tbh I feel like the whole "you are Artanis, then you are Selendis" thing is just a retcon, no matter what Blizz says

[@AmryL]

That's because it is. But how canon the canon is very important, especially since Bliz-Hactivision is so very careful to uphold it's core lore. /s

[@Resistant396]

5:45 Now that you mention it, I must have spent hours trying to save those suicidal zealots when I first played this campaign. Truly miserable.

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

Its funny for me as a kid I always completely ignored them and just ran by the battle with my guys as they all fought and died lol.

[@lordsusano7667]

How can Artanis be the executor from the first campaign, if he is just now only a praetor. This just shows how blizzard is out of touch with their own product.

[@agentnorth2758]

Praetor was (at the time) the highest rank within the Protoss Templar caste. Executor was the Supreme Commander of the Protoss Expeditionary Force. It's likely Artanis's exploits as Executor are what got his appointment/promotion to Praetor

[@LeDominantDeSC2]

it's less being out of touch and more the fact that you are meant to be included as an unnamed character in the game. It was a pretty common theme back then with C&C for example. It's just that SC2 wasn't planned when SC was written, or if it was they didn't plan SC2's storytelling and as such can only make bad retcons because people cannot accept that the player character was *just* a generic officier

[@agentnorth2758]

@@LeDominantDeSC2 from a realistic RL perspective this is pretty much it yes. It was the way back then games were written for YOU the player to he the character so you would put yourself into the role.

[@lordsusano7667]

I bet the new writers haven't even played the original campaigns.

[@cjayhay]

I'm pretty sure it *has* been officially confirmed that this Executor is Selendis... but on the other hand, when Selendis appears in Wings of Liberty, she talks as though she knows who Jim is but has never actually met him ("your bravery and service to Aiur are known to us," not "good to see you again, buddy!"). Make of that what you will?

[@cjayhay]

(The Starcraft fan wiki page on Selendis says that she "was promoted to executor, acting as Artanis' assistant and commanding the combined military forces of the protoss" during the Brood War, and cites an interview with Chris Metzen, but unfortunately the link to the interview no longer works)

[@alexstewart9592]

@@cjayhay Well, the new Executor in the BW campaign was not present for the slaying of the Overmind, and in this mission they aren't where Jim is until the very end, which means that they only actually SAW Jim on Aiur for under a minute, with most of his remaining forces having already warped out and with Fenix and a bunch of Protoss with him - they didn't really see him IN ACTION. In fact, this would explain why Selendis can recognise him on sight but only really knows him by reputation - she briefly saw him during the evacuation of Aiur but never saw him actually fighting, and she would remember what he looks like because a human on that planet is unusual.