BROOKS GHOST 16: time to give up the ghost?

[@rachael7653]

I love my Brooks Ghost 14. I wear them pretty much every day to work since I like to take a lunch walk. They are comfortable and esthetically pleasing. Mine are black with some little white/grayish overlays

[@its_Matt_B_]

This is the perfect scenario for the Ghost! They’re comfortable enough for all day wear and to be used for exercise!

[@Boababa-fn3mr]

The 14s are brilliant. I hope the 16s are just as good.

[@jonathanbelone5656]

I lov my pair of shoes... got them last week. Feels good, Awesome when I do my running 🏃... lov ❤ my Brooks

[@its_Matt_B_]

Good to hear it! The Ghost is the most popular for a reason!! 👊🏽

[@dawnmcwilliams7239]

Love saucony speed series!

[@its_Matt_B_]

The Speed are definitely top-notch shoes! I can see why you like them.

[@dawnmcwilliams7239]

Like the 8 mm drop because of my knees. Love your videos!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Dawn! ☺️ Have you tried different drops? Higher, perhaps?

[@dawnmcwilliams7239]

@@its_Matt_B_ Yes I have. I used to run in Asics Nimbus when they had a 13 mm drop and inevitably during a run my knees would have problems. I used to run in the Ghost shoes but I sort of stumbled on to the Saucony Endorphin Speeds and haven’t looked back. They are such fun to run in! 😀

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@dawnmcwilliams7239 Ok, good! I'm glad you've found what you like after a bit of trial and error!

[@hridaimanav3620]

I had Achilles Tendonitis Surgery in 2017..I did tried multiple shoes from different brands, but liked Ghost 14. Didn’t like 15 and hence switched to Glycerin 20&21, which are quite good .. What do you suggest me to do? Which are your best recommendations for me ?

[@its_Matt_B_]

I think you will like the Ghost 16 because they changed the midsole. It feels more like the Glycerin now, without paying Glycerin prices. I’ve also been enjoying the Mizuno Wave Rider 28. They added a softer foam to the heel which makes it a much better ride than before.

[@Aron-t6m]

Thanks for review... How is the feel of the midsole ? Firm or bit of the chushy side ? 12mm drop is bit too much for me ... Thanks

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yeah, 12mm is definitely the top end of drops, although it's ideal for a lot of people! Brooks has done well with the midsole feeling. It's right in the middle of firm and squishy, which seems to be the sweet spot. It's soft enough where you could be comfortable spending all day in the shoe but not a level of softness that feels like it's sucking your energy!

[@Aron-t6m]

@@its_Matt_B_ Sounds like a try ... Thanks for the info

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@Aron-t6m They're Brooks most popular running shoe, and have been for years! They're definitely worth a try!

[@ivarchr.bjergpedersen1202]

8-12mm 😉 Favourite shoe at the moment: Saucony Tempus.

[@its_Matt_B_]

The Tempus is still a winner in the light stability segment. I hope they drop the Tempus 2 this year!

[@dasaxophonist]

I run in a brooks ghost(5 years). The tread on bottom came off from wear but i super glued it back on and it still works. Thinking about getting a new pair or the cascadia. I run on pavement and trail so im debating on the perfect shoe to own. Ghost 16, cascadia, or Pegasus trail running

[@its_Matt_B_]

If you don’t green run on roads and trails during the same run, it looks like the new Pegasus Trail 5 will be the best option out of those you listed.

[@seanbolger7371]

Great review, would you choose it ahead of the Ghost max?, I ran in the 11,12 and 13 very comfortable shoes but I moved onto the Mach 4 and endorphin speed after that.

[@its_Matt_B_]

No, I think I would still go with the Ghost Max because I prefer the 6mm drop, although I do prefer the DNA Loft v3 in the Ghost 16 (the Max has DNA Loft v2). I expect the Max 2 will be out soon enough and that will cement my decision on the Max!

[@michaelalbrecht3395]

The drop on the shoe depends on the route I run if I’m doing a lot of up hill running I lean towards a 12 mil drop if I’m doing flats and downhills I lean towards a 4-5 mil drop

[@its_Matt_B_]

That's a great way to determine which shoe to wear on any given day!

[@TolunayOrkun]

I got a pair of Ghost 16 as a gift for mentoring runners signed up to running store 5k program. They were size US11 and I normally wear US10 but they didn't feel that big. In fact, US10.5 would fit me perfectly in this shoe. In other words, I think Ghost 16 runs 0.5 size small. I liked the fact that DNA Loft v3. It will be durable for that thick rubber application but it also makes it quite heavy. I could exchange them for a different size, but after walking in them a bit, I felt that it was too much shoe for me and upper was too hot for Texas and I really didn't need it so I sent the pair to a family member in Washington, DC who wears US10.5 and he says he really liked the shoe and might buy a pair after this pair wears out. I think my personal preferred range is 6-8m drop.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Perhaps I always wear shoes that are slightly too big, but the Ghost 16 fits exactly as I expected it to based on previous Ghosts and Brooks shoes! Good on ya for sending your pair to a good home! I 100% agree about them being too hot for a summer in the south!

[@Echom4-kr5el]

Just received mine today. Going to wear casually, but much softer feeling than the 15, which I returned. I hope they work for me as I prefer a shoe with a forefoot rocker.

[@its_Matt_B_]

They seem like they'd be very comfortable for a casual shoe! LMK your thoughts after you wear them a couple times!

[@edbrown4628]

👻 Brooks Ghost, along with NB 880, are at the heart of my running shoe rotation, covering those mid-week medium distance easy runs. While Ghost might not be the uber-light premium choice for fast run days, it is a very usable shoe for nearly every option. They’ve even served me well on well-groomed city trailways!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Your not alone with that opinion! There is a reason the Ghost is Brooks' biggest seller year after year! They do what they do very well!

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

Curious to see a Matt comparison of the Ghost 16 and the Glycerin 21.

[@its_Matt_B_]

🤔 👌🏽

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

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[@Jhanke999]

Same. Would love to hear a comparison and preference.

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@Jhanke999 Incoming….

[@its_Matt_B_]

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[@Jhanke999]

So true about the casual wear. I usually wait until the new model is out and buy the old model at a reduced price to bump around in. In late February I bought my third Ghost 15 thinking it was going to be months before the 16 came out. I run 50-60 miles in a month so I’m looking at a new pair of Brooks in November. Should I go with the Glycerin 21 or the Ghost 16? My wife tried on the Glycerin 20 and 21 and I think she’s going to go with the 21 due to the enhanced cushioning. Thoughts?

[@its_Matt_B_]

I would answer this here but I have a comparison between the Ghost 16 and Glycerin 21 dropping in about 15 minutes….

[@its_Matt_B_]

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[@Jhanke999]

Too funny. Thanks for the info!

[@tinalewis6782]

Hi Matt - Great review! I've been happily jumping rope with the Brooks Range 2 shoes (their beginner runner netural cushioned shoe that has been discontinued). I recently ordered a pair of the now yesterday's sauce Ghost 15 and I'm happy with that, too! When it's time for new jump rope shoes, I'll stick with the Ghost family. P.S. Drops don't seem to be an issue when jumping rope, at least not for me.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Brooks daily trainers seems to me like they would work well for jumping rope because they're so cushioned and supportive! My wife wears the Brooks Revel 5 for most runs and she loves them.

[@ianlowe4126]

Hi Matt. I’ve not run in the ghost before but decided to pick up the 16 after seeing your review however after very positive first impressions I started to get some pain after running in my left Achilles. At first mild but getting worse the more I ran in the shoe. I stopped running in them , rested for a week and the pain went. I then ran a full week in my trusted triumph 20’s with no issues I then went back to the ghosts and the Achilles problem returned. I’m wondering if the rounded shape of the ghost 16 is not suited to my heal shape ? Would be interested in your opinion? Ian 🇬🇧

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@ianlowe4126 Ugh! Sorry to hear it, Ian, but I’m glad you’re able to get rid of the Achilles pain quite quickly. I’m a little surprised to hear you had Achilles pain because the 12mm drop in the Ghost is usually quite friendly to the Achilles. On the surface I don’t know exactly what could be causing the issue and you don’t need me to tell you to avoid whatever is causing you discomfort. Ultimately, we’re all a little different and shoes that work well for a lot of people doesn’t mean they’re going to work well for us. I’m most glad you can still run in your T20s! Are there other shoes that have worked well for you?

[@ianlowe4126]

@@its_Matt_B_ hi Matt. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. Yes it’s foxed me a tad as I’ve not suffered Achilles pain before the only thing I can see different with the ghost 16 is the rounded heal as apposed to the heal flare on my hoka Mach 5’s for eg. I’m very much enjoying my adidas SL2 at the moment. I’m looking at the Brooks Ghost Max 2

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@ianlowe4126 It’s a bit of a conundrum, but with so many good options out there is probably not worth the effort to dig into the why! The SL2s are a treat, aren’t they!

[@-Liyash-]

Is there any difference between the ghost 16 & gliserin 21???

[@its_Matt_B_]

The G21 is $20 more expensive, has a 10mm drop, and a higher stack than the Ghost 16. I’ll have a comparison video out soon!

[@Munchkinz11]

is this good for overpronation? heel striker?

[@its_Matt_B_]

It is a good shoe for heel strikers and could work well, depending on your level of overpronation. Brooks also makes a GTS (go-to-support) version of some of their shoes, which will help control overpronation.

[@Munchkinz11]

@@its_Matt_B_ thank you sir!!! thats the thing with my running shoes. I think its Supination and easily burns through the heelside on my shoes. Thanks.

[@Munchkinz11]

@@its_Matt_B_ I am looking for Brooks Hyperion Max. Brooks Launch gts 10 cause most Adrenalines Gts are not available in my Country,

[@hkim9151]

Great.. after shoes are retired from running , it moved to mowing the lawn… but I already have a pair for that (that’s nimbus 25) for that. So how many pairs of shoes do we need for mowing the lawn? … in then end, if we do lots of running, we are inevitably have lots of shoes for mowing the lawn. 😂😂😂

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yeah, that’s certainly a dilemma. What makes it worse is that we retire our running shoes after a certain distance run in them, but there is no such limit for lawn mowing shoes. Over time our lawn mowing shoes increases at a faster rate than our running shoes. This is a real problem for me as I live in a maintenance free neighborhood so never mow my lawn. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lopezlopez7132]

Invest in better microphone and slow down a little, IF you want people to listen to you.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Alex! 👊🏽