Brother Enigma on tithes

[@LisbethMatsimbi]

Vafarisi nava saduki lavanga vamba Yeso va ala ku inwana wa Xikwembu mahalotala brother enigma itise hungu ku suka aka yeso nwina milava kuri twisisa hi nyama Christ I moya loko ingari na moya wa yena a wungetwisisi , the word of God is a spirit moya wa Xikwembu hi wona wuhipfunaku kutwisisa timhaka leti yana mahlweni brother enigma ihibyela ku Hosi yilava hi hundzuka kwini a wutelangi vana va vanhu itele vana va Xikwembu Amen

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

If we know how to rightfully divide the word of truth you will learn that the purity preached by the Biblical apostles does not come with legalism. When we find ourselves mixing grace and works the gospel will not be effective.

[@nomusazhou7411]

Tithe is mandatory children of God!

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

False Tithe is optional we were never Jew and even the Jewish Christians themselves are no longer under the law

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

Tithe is Important not mandatory child of God

[@truthalignment]

All laws are mandatory... So we can't cherry pick the ones that suit us. If tithing is mandatory so also is keeping the sabbath day holy,,, and the other 612 laws.

[@predestinated9248]

Yes it's a sign of obedience and love

[@nkanyisomyeza7199]

You are lying 🤥

[@amosmotaung7308]

I wish bro enigma would stick to God’s revelations,honestly his opinions doesn’t matter

[@Patricksibiya75]

Greetings my brother I have a request for you, can you please translate all the message by Brother Vusumuzi Sibiya teachings into English and subtitles and post it to everyone you can worldwide, the message is very urgent indeed it is about Church cleansing, you are permitted by Sibiya and owner of quarter to media channel themselves amen.

[@JeanetteMahaye-pk9yb]

Jesus Christ of Nazareth free from the law and bandage Corinthians 9:7-8 NIV. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

[@predestinated9248]

Tithe is a revelation because Abel Abraham gave it even before the Law unless the Lord Jesus Christ is revealed to you tithing will be a problem for you brother Enigma you are 100% correct you speak the will of the Father Almighty

[@nkanyisomyeza7199]

Abel did not give tithe

[@mantuntusecaleni]

So you also fighting the revelations from Jesus?

[@nkanyisomyeza7199]

@mantuntusecaleni the revelation from Jesus cannot contradict His word...

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@predestinated9248 So I believe that tithes are more important than what we know... Apart from the command, the example of people tithing were doing it as an honor and a way to worship and thanks giving(Abraham & Jacob) I made a video talking about how Christian can tithe today along those line. But Malachi is written to the nation of Israel to go back to the law & commandments, not only about tithing but everything. Now if this is written to remind them the law of tithing... Then we need to ask ourselves, where it the original command to tithe? And you find it in Deuteronomy, Exodus and Leviticus. If you come to these original laws you will realize the following: They were not allowed to tithe money, but only the produce of the ground and livestock. They brought tithes to the Levites not the house of God, and the Levite would take the tenth of the tenth to the house of God which means only 1% goes to the house of God... This is because God a covenant with the Levites as a tribe. They tithed once a year and in every three year which was the year of tithing... So on top of Levites receiving the tithes, they were also given to widows and orphans. And more: So if we are to follow tithes as a command(law) then we should also follow these regulations that are commanded otherwise we are not respecting the command. Malachi also curses those who do not tithe, because it is the tithe of the law that Christ fulfilled. Christ is the end of the law Romans 10vs4 If you want to learn more with scriptural references find check out the series I made on tithes.

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@nkanyisomyeza7199 maybe he is trying to say Jacob

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

Believers there is a difference between requirement and importance,Tithe is vital for the operation of the Church but it is not a requirement for a Christian

[@JeanetteMahaye-pk9yb]

Corinthians 9:7-8 NIV. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

@JeanetteMahaye-pk9yb Thank you its not wrong to tithe and its not wrong not to tithe if you choose not to,its actually a way of expressing gratitude and supporting your fellow Saints its a very good thing to do but still not compulsory

[@predestinated9248]

Whaaat repent tithe is a command all Christians must obey

[@nkanyisomyeza7199]

@@predestinated9248 show us the scripture

[@ASWEMEDIA]

I agree with u that scripture is the final authority. I have not known him contradict scripture. Even u have no scripture to disprove him. Read mathew 23:23 And see that Jesus never condemned tithe.

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

I have a 4 part teaching on tithing where I also mention Mat23vs23... But I think I became reluctant and I did not refer to the bible in this video.

[@truthalignment]

And that 4Part teaching you won't find in church. It's so detailed and scripture based.

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@ASWEMEDIA So I believe that tithes are more important than what we know... Apart from the command, the example of people tithing were doing it as an honor and a way to worship and thanks giving(Abraham & Jacob) I made a video talking about how Christian can tithe today along those line. But Malachi is written to the nation of Israel to go back to the law & commandments, not only about tithing but everything. Now if this is written to remind them the law of tithing... Then we need to ask ourselves, where it the original command to tithe? And you find it in Deuteronomy, Exodus and Leviticus. If you come to these original laws you will realize the following: They were not allowed to tithe money, but only the produce of the ground and livestock. They brought tithes to the Levites not the house of God, and the Levite would take the tenth of the tenth to the house of God which means only 1% goes to the house of God... This is because God a covenant with the Levites as a tribe. They tithed once a year and in every three year which was the year of tithing... So on top of Levites receiving the tithes, they were also given to widows and orphans. And more: So if we are to follow tithes as a command(law) then we should also follow these regulations that are commanded otherwise we are not respecting the command. Malachi also curses those who do not tithe, because it is the tithe of the law that Christ fulfilled. Christ is the end of the law Romans 10vs4 If you want to learn more with scriptural references find check out the series I made on tithes.

[@unathimayiya5067]

The Bible says Jesus Christ Will die and when He goes to heaven He will leave spirit that will reveal more thing He says and one didn't says so Pastor Poni Poni Philip has a ryt to have those visions

[@albionpeetja4329]

People are confused when it comes to the understanding of Law and Grace. The Word of God is forever established in the Heavens(Psalm 119v89). Both Old and New Testaments are Word of God. There is nothing like 'Tithe is law, therefore does not count in the Grace period'. No, it is a deception. Tithe is a command from God just like any other command and those who love God will keep His commands. If you are not paying tithe don't teach others to do the same; remain disobedient alone. Christians must not argue about what God has made clear in the bible. If we are not tithing we are disobedient to the Word of God and that has consequences.

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@albionpeetja4329 and if you want to tithe according to the law then go to Israel and look for the descendants of Levi because they are the only ones who have the command to collect the tithes, even the priest did not collect the tithes except the tenth of the tenth that cam from the Levites. Also if you want to tithe according to the law you can't tithe money. If you want to tithe according to the law you should only tithe once a year. And more, and more, and more The only example we have apart from the law is of Abraham and Jacob whose tithes where a way of showing honor, gratitude and worship. Christ is the end of the law. Rom10vs4

[@blackrhythmrecords8691]

Who are you to disqualify him with his teachings, just close your mouth and focus on you way if you don't agree with him

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

He is free to teach anyway he want provided he does not misinterpret the Word of God,whenever you reference the Bible your teaching has to be in line with Scripture

[@truthalignment]

If he is not allowed to have a say then you are also not allowed to comment. But you are commenting because you saw something you don't like just like he commented because he saw something he does not agree with... At the end of the day what does the Bible say?

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

@@truthalignment Its called freedom of Speech hence I said he can say his opinions but not make his opinions the true word of God.I am also excercising my freedom of speech in objecting to what is not true,Paul in the book of Romans teaches us that we are no longer under the law but under grace because Jesus fullfilled the law in our behalf.To say that tithe worships for you is not only incorrect but reduces God to something else,John 4:24 says God is a Spirit and whoever worships him should worship him in Spirit and in Truth. People must not be misled no wonder why the World is falling apart.

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

How about me and you go back to the scripture and pursue the Truth together I think that way we can both learn something what do you think?

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@blackrhythmrecords8691 a constructive disagreement would help find the truth if I'm lying.

[@finkytogoe7079]

Romans 3:27-31 ESV 27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since God is one-who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

[@dibakisomoncho9255]

Do you Pray to ask the Holy Spirit before you answer sarcastically like others

[@KevindusT360]

Even when christians pray to the supposed holy spirit you guys cannot agree on topics why is that? Even when you pray before reading the same holy text,why are you still in disagreement?

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

When you have the Lord sanctified in your hearts, you will be ready with an answer. 1st Peter3vs15

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

My Brother this is a good question. Now there are a few reasons to that. I will give you the top two according to me and also note that this problem was already there in the churches that we see in the bible. The major cause to this is that there are somethings in the bible that are written to instruct the nation of Israel only, and we want to adopt those which the bible in the new testament does not approve. The second thing is taking scriptures out of context which means you give meaning to the scriptures that were not intended by God or the writer. This will dilute the truth and cause confusion. there are many more, But sometime i overlook some differences as long we all understand that Jesus is the only savior.

[@KevindusT360]

@@plaingospeltruth2427 Now doesn't the Bible offer resolution to those conflicts in churches and disagreements? I understand that you share the same belief in your understanding of holy trinity. My issue becomes one of divine command theory, whereby you find people of faith saying Yahweh himself told him/her that what they do or say is legit even if it contradicts scripture. Now bear with me in the Bible you find places where Yahweh commands certain groups do to something to other groups without the other group knowing? (Divine command) How do you verify or falsify that it's Yahweh speaking to them because plenty of instances in Bible whereby Yahweh goes against his own standards set for humans. The birth of denominations is also problematic and even in non denominational churches people are in disagreement. Why doesn't the holy spirit give people contextual understanding because anybody can pick a verse and interpret to favour them, whether good or bad. And here's the kicker you can't falsify them because Yahweh spoke to them apparently. I'm agnostic by the way and I find christianity confusing hence I'm no longer in the faith. I have a plethora of theological issues as well.

[@Lee-c9c]

There is no tithe in new testament period.

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

@@Lee-c9c You nailed it

[@harveyratsibela4007]

There is,more explained in the new testament hence in the new testament immediately when believers received the Holy Spirit,they sold their houses,lands and brought the proceeds to the Apostles. Tithe is not part of the but part of the covenant God did with Hhis Son.

[@JeanetteMahaye-pk9yb]

​@@harveyratsibela4007True

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

@harveyratsibela4007 thats is the ordinary giving it was not a tithe

[@healthyjacob5851]

Malachi 3 v 10 Read

[@irenenoxolo4311]

Read what Jesus Christ says in Mathew 23 v 23b and Mark 12v 17. Let's do what God wants us to do son not detaining his word. I e careful on your statementsand malaki 1: from verse 6

[@plaingospeltruth2427]

@@irenenoxolo4311 So I believe that tithes are more important than what we know... Apart from the command, the example of people tithing were doing it as an honor and a way to worship and thanks giving(Abraham & Jacob) I made a video talking about how Christian can tithe today along those line. But Malachi is written to the nation of Israel to go back to the law & commandments, not only about tithing but everything. Now if this is written to remind them the law of tithing... Then we need to ask ourselves, where it the original command to tithe? And you find it in Deuteronomy, Exodus and Leviticus. If you come to these original laws you will realize the following: They were not allowed to tithe money, but only the produce of the ground and livestock. They brought tithes to the Levites not the house of God, and the Levite would take the tenth of the tenth to the house of God which means only 1% goes to the house of God... This is because God a covenant with the Levites as a tribe. They tithed once a year and in every three year which was the year of tithing... So on top of Levites receiving the tithes, they were also given to widows and orphans. And more: So if we are to follow tithes as a command(law) then we should also follow these regulations that are commanded otherwise we are not respecting the command. Malachi also curses those who do not tithe, because it is the tithe of the law that Christ fulfilled. Christ is the end of the law Romans 10vs4 If you want to learn more with scriptural references find check out the series I made on tithes.

[@truthalignment]

@@irenenoxolo4311 Jesus was actually showing them that they can't keep some laws and leave the others undone, this was before he died on the cross. When he died on the cross he fulfilled the law.

[@mmelimahlobo7656]

Aaaah 😂 so I can just pay my tithe for the whole year and do not bother praying

[@phasesibanda4334]

You MC so. Educated you bless. Yourself with. The. Scripture s in psalms but not the. Old. Testament laws let. The. Holy spirit help me knock. Some. Sence in your heart who. Is. God is it Jesus so how. Does. He change from. Old testament and. New don't you know. He inever changes