Brothers serve 24 years for crime they didn't commit

Brothers David and Robert Bintz are free after serving 24 years for a crime they did not commit. The 1987 murder of Sandra Lison in Green Bay, Wisconsin, was already 13 years old when the brothers were convicted in 2000. New DNA evidence, however, points to another man as being responsible for the crime.
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[@kylecurryyt]

Confession in his sleep? 😂Heard by a cell mate who probably cut a deal. That’s a travesty of justice for certain.

[@carolynbacon9896]

Wow. How can anyone be an adult and believe that?

[@AncestralHeirlooms]

Kyle buy xrp so you can have a say so in corporate zones of 2028

[@Mr_Negrodamus]

👏💯

[@normthompson923]

Jail house snitches were notoriously false and good d.a.s would often ignore their evidence. This prosecutor was a clown and his estate should be taken in small recompense for his crime.25 years per,what a scumbag.

[@STANDAARD979]

A confession in a dream, is all you need to put someone in a jail. Unbelievable

[@mikethorson7243]

The judge and prosecutor should have to do the same prison time. Accountability

[@daleglasbrenner3321]

at least the judge...

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@joevarga5982]

@@daleglasbrenner3321 Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@carolynbacon9896]

💯

[@GenerallyGeneralLee]

Sounds fair.

[@larrysamhat5862]

Word of a jailhouse snitch over physical evidence determined via science? What instructions did the jury get in this case?

[@ihbarddx]

It's basically a way for the prosecution to bribe a witness to lie.

[@DIDYOUSEETHAT172]

Pay attention, there was no physical evidence at the time! That is the whole point. They had no evidence either way! The crime was unsolved for 13 years until the BS from the cell mate. ANd did not have that DNA evidence until 24 years later, after the DNA proved they were innocent.

[@eternityhalo]

@@ihbarddx Exactly right. The Prosecutor in that case was a real piece of crap who KNEW those brothers didn't commit that crime but put them in prison anyway because he didn't have the stones to say he didn't have enough evidence. Gutless, politically-motivated scumbags should be kept OUT of the criminal justice system yet we make Prosecutors elected positions. The minute you inject politics in to the justice system you get abuse, just like this. It's the dumbest thing we do. Prosecutors should NEVER be elected.

[@unbreakable7633]

The judge and prosecutor should pay the price for misleading the jury and for allowing this abuse of the criminal justice system. The guys who wrote the Constitution were right: government is THE problem.

[@tommas2674]

It was a confession in his sleep. lol, old dna at the scene. smh. so those 2 plus one more at least.

[@levithewonderdog335]

I hope they both get serious compensation not that it will ever make up for their life spent behind bars.

[@ChaunceyCulpeppa]

Not much can make up for 25 years of your life.

[@user-yg1dg6xm2g]

How do they adapt to functioning in the real world after 24 years in prison? Will they be able to manage the money they receive responsibly?

[@mariehampton740]

They won't. It will be handled by a representative appointed by the courts. And will have to keep a ledger with periodic reporting

[@Spencerlayne]

That's not justice. Justice would be anyone who sent them down should serve the same time.

[@FPInvention]

@@ChaunceyCulpeppa to live out the rest of your life as a millionaire wouldn't be too bad though

[@ContemplativeCat]

The only evidence found on the body of the victim (blood and semen) did NOT match the two men who were accused. And yet, based upon the highly questionable claim of a prison inmate, they were convicted anyway and spent 25 years in prison? Absolutely disgusting! Something is very rotten here...

[@Everykneebows]

IKR

[@ironbowtie]

I say the prosecuting attorney and the judge need to serve the 24 years now.

[@tommas2674]

no, even if it is/was an off chance you'd like to believe, Many more were safe. It was a confession in his sleep. lol, old dna at the scene. smh. so those 2 plus one more at least.

[@fritz_von_steiner5544]

Yes, the whole system of prosecutors, who only want to have success to show the public: `Look, we have the suspect!´ And the system of the 12 laymen-judges who only have to be persuaded by the prosecutor!

[@montezuma6962]

It happens all the time. There are a few dozen podcasts that cover wrongful convictions and they're hurting for cases to cover.

[@randyhernandez3952]

No amount of money will buy their lost years.

[@torturedsoul8066]

2 men charged with rape and murder and neither of them had any dna on the victim? That would have caused reasonable doubt in my mind.

[@mikekellum6238]

DNA in 1987 was practically in its infancy as a crime tool.

[@HeadsUpNorth]

Sounds like they had a bad defense attorney

[@annazaman9657]

The brothers were sentenced in 2000​@@mikekellum6238

[@SugarMollyHazel]

I can’t be sure but I don’t think there was dna testing back then, but I could be wrong.

[@SpartacusColo]

@@mikekellum6238 Their trial and conviction was in 2000. Literally, the only thing the prosecution had amounting to "evidence" was a convicted criminal swearing that the guy "confessed" to the whole thing in his sleep, AND implicated his brother at the same time.

[@jonathonvinkowski649]

The DA should be in prison for this .

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@virginiahart4480]

I agree. Accountability.

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting.

[@landonleathers5936]

Hopefully they get a really good attorney and sue the hell out of the state

[@cheyloo]

Then they could end up like Steven Avery.

[@loririlling2538]

No way ​@@cheyloo

[@gailcullinan349]

There are too many wrongful convictions in the US which begins with the police.

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@fred-ts9pb]

Don't forget DA's running for reelection.

[@DJ_Big_Bear1]

yOU LOOK LIKE hILLARY cLINTON

[@joekayaker2798]

Confessed in his sleep?? That DA should be in jail for stealing their lives.

[@armageddonready4071]

“Told him in his SLEEP”? 0:36 Did I hear that correctly?

[@teresa8793]

What a travesty!!! Convicted on a fellow inmate's word??!! Our so called justice system is so broken. Just look at the Delphi case! Horrifying!! Avery and Dassey too. 😢

[@tyharris9994]

It said later in the video that there was a confession. Were they referring to a seperate confession? Or just this inmate alleging a confession while asleep? This video was short on facts.

[@joevarga5982]

"Convicted on a fellow inmate's word?" Nope. "In 1998, while David Bintz was incarcerated for another crime, his cellmate, Gary Swendby, told correctional officers he heard Bintz confess to Lison’s murder in his sleep. During his interrogation, Bintz confessed and also implicated his brother, Robert."

[@deadby15]

i saw a PBS documentary about how easy it is for police to make someone confess things he actually didn't do. Thats why physical evidence is vital.

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting.

[@montezuma6962]

It takes a jury to break it. Most jurors are voting guilty regardless.

[@daisymae3258]

It is unacceptable to use “witness testimony” of one person.

[@suckit5092]

Especially when it’s another prisoner

[@Kaisan-vc8fw]

"This case was solved the old fashioned way" Meaning in America, the cops & DA pick the first person they can 'fit up' for the crime ... My only shock is these brothers aren't brothers. What sort of mind screwed country allows people to be jailed because someone else says they heard a full confession whilst the accused was talking in their sleep??? America is a truly sick country 💩

[@Acidandrain0]

Not always..

[@SusiesRepeat]

Yes “round up the usual suspects “ (Casablanca).

[@NumberOneFan-hq1tf]

People have gotten married, had babies, those babies have graduated college, parents have divorced, grandparents have died, people have bought and sold the same house, during the 24 years they have been in prison. No one should be sentenced to 24+ years with contradictory evidence.

[@GairikGhosh]

Sue the state and throw the prosecutor to jail.

[@smg7187]

They should get 1 million a year for every year they spend in jail

[@megypsy6411]

Tax free.

[@christopherbasham1551]

@@megypsy6411 It will not be free for the taxpayers.

[@ironbowtie]

They'll be lucky to get adjusted annual minimum wage for each year lost.

[@R0NIN_1987]

@@megypsy6411Tax free? It would be paid with taxes 😆

[@KCmidwest-wm9jd]

@@christopherbasham1551 Then taxpayers need to be more careful about who holds these important, legal positions.

[@jebsails2837]

The 2000 persecutor (sic) certainly knew his role. Narragansett Bay

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@StarchildeX]

Where's the apology and why don't shady prosecutors and detectives ever get in trouble for a botched investigation?

[@warrenfrudd9324]

I hope that the responsible prosecuting attorney from 24 years ago is the one that is going to pay the hundreds of millions of dollars that these brothers will get and deserve to get.

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@richle905]

LOL! Government never cuts checks like that. They wrote laws to make sure they can't be sued for that much.

[@rhargee4014]

How bout the judge? The be all end all of our justice system

[@joevarga5982]

@@rhargee4014 Watch a video before commenting.

[@benjaminjones499]

How tf is talking in his sleep considered a confession?

[@rhargee4014]

Gonna have to ask the judge on that one

[@d.b.1858]

Jailhose Snitch convicted them ? OH WOW !!!

[@rlee1068]

they should jail everyone in the jury, the judge, prosecution, state and police.. 24 fkn years for 2 people.. godamn 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@englishincontext4025]

'Evidence'? A jailbird overhearing someone talking in their sleep? What rubbish.

[@anitagrant6465]

DNA CAME OUT INTHE 80'S, WHAT TOOK TO LONG?

[@vulcan2882]

dirty cop/s .. dirty judge .. dirty DA.

[@R0NIN_1987]

They had to wait for all the ones responsible to retire before admitting they messed up.

[@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx]

Well they knew the blood and semen didnt match,lol And they wanted a conviction. Thank God somebody eventually took it.upon themselves to actually see whos dna it actually matched. Just think how many are prob still in prison with similar types of convictions.

[@montezuma6962]

They knew the dna wasn't a match from the start. They knew they were convicting innocent people. The reason they were exonerated is because some random person took a genealogy/family tree test in recent years and that matched the dna from the crime.

[@GamersBay]

A total perversion of our justice system, the prosecutors should be imprisoned. Why would you bring charges against someone with no evidence of any kind tying them to the crime? Its as if the prosecutor decided they just wanted convict someone for this crime, they didn't care who it was, as long as someone got thrown int he slammer.

[@EricFullwood]

A snitch "heard" a confession from someone sleeping - yeah, totally sounds legit.

[@CarlHungus-du2zb]

Glad they got out. Has to be a total culture shock.

[@vulcan2882]

Well looks like two brothers have each just won a huge lottery. ( $25 Million for each .. tax free ). Oh and as for the former cell mate, I think somebody may be going back to prison with a lot more time now.

[@AFloridaSon]

Would you honestly be willing to spend 24 years in prison for $25 million?

[@virginiahart4480]

​@@AFloridaSonNo.

[@FPInvention]

This is why the Death sentence isn't right, there are so many innocent people in prison

[@cocktailhotel]

When the justice system has a want/need to convict SOMEONE for the crime, regardless if it's the actual person(s) who committed the crime. When justice becomes a travesty.

[@maxeisenhardt9050]

For a moment I thought this was about the Menendez brothers🤣

[@megypsy6411]

After hearing stories like this, you have to wonder how many people have died (been put to death) for crimes they didn't commit.

[@Terranhumanityproject]

The judge, prosecutors, and jurors all need to go to prison without the possibility of parole.

[@whouse7]

My advice; never ever ever get put on trial for anything!!! I don’t Don't trust the judge, jury, DA, cops, nobody!!

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@Acidandrain0]

Don’t commit petty crimes

[@dhjoubert39]

Prosectors should be held liable for cases like this. Let them serve the same sentence that the innocent people had to serve.

[@glbernini0]

This is the "JUSTICE SYSTEM" America is so proud of???

[@jessieeads4509]

Don't you think 24. Years shoi be worth 24 million and collect it from the police for deliberately screwing them 😡😡😡😡🐂💩

[@soulsurvivor4499]

1:29 joy and relief knowing they didn't get executed. .... ordinary people shouldn't be judging extraordinary circumstances, and if a prisoner is telling information why not just consider the cellmate prisoner is lying? ... the Jerry should be notified that their failures and naive and that they were blindly ignorant to let these two men suffer for 24 years. absolutely disgusting

[@Abby-yc7tt]

Sounds perfectly normal for the American court system! Smh

[@jdsmith5060]

Free?? Where is their reparations 😿

[@Amtcboy]

Who’s going to argue with the cell mate if he “heard” it while the other guy was “asleep?” He might have invented it himself for a deal.

[@Swegen7]

What's the DA's culpability? Worse in some way, hopefully.

[@sabrinamcdowell3393]

They should ha e never been in jail

[@joevarga5982]

That's what you get for confessing. Watch a video.

[@rad4579]

And the prosecutor, he had no evidence.

[@joevarga5982]

@@rad4579 He had a confession.

[@rad4579]

@@joevarga5982 By a jailhouse snitch of something supposedly said in his sleep. No evidence.

[@joevarga5982]

@@rad4579 Testimony is evidence. So is a confession. "During his interrogation, Bintz confessed and also implicated his brother, Robert."

[@BobbyJames-fv9tn]

I don't understand why you guys keep saying confession.Confession, confession, there was never a confession.You said a third party said he said while he was sleeping.That's not a confession that they third party making something up

[@jessehickman668]

It’s estimated that at a minimum, 2% of all people in prison were falsely convicted. At a minimum that’s 25,000 in America right now serving time for a crime they didn’t commit.

[@montezuma6962]

I've heard as high as 8%

[@PatrickMcCarthy-m1k]

If they're innocent, I hope Wisconsin cuts them both a multimillion check for wasting 24 years of their time.

[@Brandon-th4xx]

Since when is a convict telling cops you mumbled stuff in your sleep, considered a confession and reasonable ??

[@ericwilliams626]

Just remember, as population gets larger and larger, the DA has more theoretical power and most people can't handle that power.

[@Arturo-l3d]

What evidence did they even have just some inmate saying he heard him confessing In his sleep 🤦‍♂️

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Hard to understand how a DA and jury could believe a jailhouse co called confession

[@CJinsoo]

how was talking in his sleep considered a confession? think they are leaving out important details.

[@mirandaconlin9231]

The courts and everyone involved in them being in prison should have to serve the same amount of time. There was clearly reasonable doubt from the beginning but they threw them in prison for life anyways.

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@hellsbells1262]

Aaaaand this is why smart people are against the death penalty.

[@clifforddoo6987]

How sad of police work blinded by ignorance. I hope they are compensated really well

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@douggodfrey6521]

Got to feel Happy for them Got to feel Sad

[@novajtv]

In a sue happy world...this is one thats actually legit

[@karamort182]

And yet a man was executed last week who was NOT GUILTY

[@MeadeFatLoss]

No he was guilty

[@deb9784]

And they had facts to prove it, yet the governor would not stay the election after hundreds of thousands opposed his execution! Too afraid it would cost them too much!

[@DeeNearOne]

Same thing with the Rafay-Burns case where the whole conviction is based on confession WHILE there are unidentified blood and unidentified fingerprints with victim's blood in the crime scene. Been imprisoned for 29 years.

[@jakeski3142]

This is horrible editing. You have the DNA guy saying someone confessed to it but the only other reference is one brother talking in his sleep. What did you leave out?

[@Leosarebetter]

Why didnt the news reporter chase up the old judge and original prosecutor and ask them why? demand to know how they feel putting innocent people away on a whim? Ask them what penalties they should now face due to their criminality.

[@The_DC_Kid]

And now it's PAYDAY! I'd demand a million dollars per year.

[@FredSmith-s5t]

In his sleep? Really? And people believed that? Holy cow!

[@brodeystanfield6390]

Make sure u sue for at least 500 million

[@joevarga5982]

Watch a video before commenting, fool.

[@shawnhuff3920]

Haaa 😂 big lawsuits against the government in that state 😳 the brothers will have enough money to retire 😊

[@Gothmaugh]

That's not a confession that's a cell mate making shit up to try and get out of jail time

[@metoo6599]

Wow imagine if they gave them the death penalty. End the death penalty.

[@tomtom-or3wc]

That judge should spend the rest of his life behind bars

[@tracyshoemake9686]

Cellmate lied but the DA.got a conviction.

[@deb9784]

Too late, unfortunately! How many others were raped and killed?

[@011egis]

I mean they were still guilty of other crimes

[@AccountInactive]

There are tons of men in prison wrongfully convicted in cases with ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND. My 304 of a cousin got her stepfather for 25 years in Galveston County.

[@patricktuorto]

These poor guys better get $.$$$.$$$.$$’s for being wrongfully condemned for most of the formidable working portions of their lives.

[@davidjackson2690]

There WAS no confession.

[@deb9784]

True, only a cell mate who obviously made a deal with the prosecutor!

[@BLU.-.J]

First off, they should sue the prosecutor out of existence, and the judge, if either are even still alive. Next, sue the state itself. These guys deserve to be very very wealthy and taken care of for the rest of their lives. 25 years in prison is a long time, and they were innocent. SUE EVERYONE AND THEIR AUNT PENELOPE TOO!

[@Tranquility32]

A DREAM? A jury believed an inmate who said they heard someone confess while talking in their SLEEP? SMH.

[@rlford10]

I have a question: How could these brother have anything but Hate in their hearts for the stupid District Attorney who was shown in the video, calling a so-called "confession in his sleep" EVIDENCE?!? The cell mate who made the claim of hearing one of the brothers "confess in his sleep" was probably lying, and the prosecutors, the Judge and the Jury members who accepted that tainted information as "Evidence" are either stupid, corrupt or both. What compensation do these brothers GET for serving 24 years in prison for a crime they didn't commit?

[@hjumper8238]

You highlight one of the weaknesses in our court system. Another example is the Derek Chauvin murder conviction!

[@011egis]

you insult the law

[@KohalaLover]

Derek Chauvin showed malice and cruelty. Convicted accurately for violating civil rights.

[@deb9784]

Sorry, we had it all on video! Of course back in the day nothing would be done! Things are changing, by the grace of God!

[@Youmightknow111]

Their whole lives destroyed by a jail mate

[@darcyperkins7041]

Remember, according to the prosecution, the judge, and the general public, a convicted person is: "guilty as hell", "we didn’t make any mistakes", "they got a fair trial so need for a new one or for an appeal", yadda, yadda, yadda. Then, new evidence and testimony arises. Then, it's "we're not so sure", "unsafe conviction", "new evidence", "take a new look", "leave to appeal allowed", "set aside...", yadda, yadda, yadda. What is the lesson here? Imagine if this had been a capital murder case.

[@alphaomega5909]

West Michigan #NavyVeteranKorea n Importantly a (retired) county law enforcement officer, 25 yrs. Im no softy on crime either,. But this case is EXACTLY WHY Im 100% Against any Death Penalty.

[@timdowney6721]

What was the average IQ of that jury? Hope the state has to pay them millions in compensation. Make it hurt the taxpayer/voters until they wise up. This is why education is valuable. A person with any exposure to neuroscience knows dreams are just the brain's ramblings.

[@jdgoesham5381]

Wow. How can you ever pay someone back for taking a quarter century of your life or a quarter century of your loved one's life? The whole family and even best friends in these cases are owed so much. And the family of the victim as well...Think about it. They thought these men killed their daughter and they got justice but the state robbed them of justice. 25 mil wouldn't be enough. Though it would be a start.

[@karenacton3854]

These ‘old cases’ should never happen. If the police did there work immediately these may not happen. There also needs to be an end to listening to convicts and using them as witnesses, not ALL are reliable. Next let’s punish those handling the cases for wrongful conviction and lastly slap the Prosecutor for refusing to admit they screwed up!! We understand no one wants a blemish on their pristine conviction record but admit when you make a mistake.

[@SpartacusColo]

"Confession"? The real story here is that the local government used the testimony from a convicted criminal "claiming" that this guy "confessed" in his sleep and rammed a conviction home. The judge, prosecutor, and detectives involved in that case should all be punished. The judge and prosecutor should be put in jail.

[@NenskiTrill]

This crap got to stop. Omg 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@user-gc5ly3tz8l]

The prosecutor of this case should be held financially liable for his illegal actions. Qualified immunity needs to be ended so these rouge police, judges, and prosecutors think twice before weaponizing the law against innocent civilians. They wasted countless government resources, destroyed the lives of 2 innocent people and ultimately the truth prevailed only because good people did the job these feckless DOJ thugs should have done to begin with. Its disgusting this prosecutor collects a pension and has no repercussions for his inability to do his job properly while these innocent civilians endured decades of torture by being confined with their rights stripped away.

[@marcyking461]

Basically, these two boys were robbed of the best years of their lives. Think of what they've missed over the past 24 years. I hope the state will compensate them for those years, not that money will ever replace their unrealized memories. I hope they will both go on to live long, happy lives from here on out.

[@bobclifton8021]

How many people who have been convicted of murder and sentenced, have later been exonerated? These people spend years in prison for something they didn't do, all because of a broken judicial system nobody seems willing to fix.

[@SMcCaskill]

It's appalling to think that a cellmate can come up with such a ridiculous "confession" and two innocent brothers are sent to prison for 24 years. What in the h*** was that prosecutor thinking? I hope the brothers got a nice fat sum out of this huge blunder.

[@annalisavajda252]

"twenty years for nothing well that's nothing new, nobody is interested in something you didn't do" Wheat Kings by Tragically Hip a song about another wrongful conviction in Canada of course the justice system makes victims of crime themselves too when they don't do their due diligence. So now not just that woman was a victim so are those two brothers you can't ever give them back that time a life sentence. Brutal.

[@montezuma6962]

How are these genealogy companies still in business? You provide a sample to see your family tree and apparently that's a green light for anyone to access that info. If the public knew this, they would all be out of business.

[@JesgateOnDown]

@kylecurryyt "We solved it the ild fashioned way - with evidence" .. 👀 🤦‍♀️

[@edwoo7023]

These kinds of convictions will never stop untill the over zealous legal system, from the police, investigators, prosecutors to the judge face zero consequences.

[@manichairdo9265]

INSANE. Surely, there had to be specific evidence and/or at least one witness to the actual crime. No lie detector involved? I hope the brothers thrive.

[@boo-boolip7528]

WHAT CONFESSIONS??!!!

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

That was one seriously low I.Q. jury. Can't blame the prosecutors and judge for this one. The jury is the bulwark against the power of the State. But not in this case. Or a couple of recent cases in Manhattan. In those the jury was one with the State alas.

[@christopherhorn1161]

Those jurors need jail time

[@oldtimer4888]

Our "justice" system has stolen a combined half century from these men based on testimony from a cellmate. No one in their right mind should have even prosecuted this train wreck considering the physical evidence. It's ireprehensible in it's entirety.

[@Nope145]

That jury should be ashamed of themselves. How do you believe a convicted criminal testifying that the other criminal confessed to a crime in his sleep?