Budget FUEL PUMP Upgrade / Replacement (BA, BF & FG Falcons) | TURBO Your NA Barra Pt 3

[@glensgraphix]

Great episode! I have a wagon and I expect things will be different a bit, probably. But the pump out of the car info is just as important. It's great that you are giving prices. When you watch other channels they tell you what you need but it makes it less fun discovering how expensive the stuff they use is because they generally have sponsors. Your episodes have useful information too. Very happy that I subscribed. So much so I even like them when they are finished :D

[@BrowneysGarage]

Hey Glen, thanks mate. I actually tried looking into the wagons for John Conroy on here as well yesterday and info is really scarce, sounds like it is different and takes dropping the tank - as I said to him though I could be and hope I'm wrong on that! Doing my best to make videos I'd watch, and as you point out showing the price and keeping it relatable is a big part of that. You're a better subscriber then me to then, I forget far too often to like the videos I do watch! Thanks very much mate 👍

[@TheEndfieldgaming]

this is really insightful honestly i love it great work lad Aussie Chrisfix

[@BrowneysGarage]

Thanks very much mate, long way from Mr Chrisfix though - he knows what he's doing, I'm a hack in a shed with a lot of research! 😂 Wish I knew half of what that guy knows.

[@TheEndfieldgaming]

@@BrowneysGarage you will get there mate can't wait to see your channel blow up

[@unknownyt9476]

Love the colour of yours mines mercury silver paint code m7 I'm using your video as a guide for the fuel filter might try this pump later down the line cheers

[@bonurb63]

Great video mate, a little tip for others, no need to take return hose off, it moves enough to get pump out.

[@daledenton9246]

This video surely should push it over the 10 K mark bro anyhow congratulations 👌🏼

[@BrowneysGarage]

Yep looks like we'll be over 10k soon, not huge compared to others but kind of crazy for me to think about. Huge thanks to you and people like yourself mate for supporting and encouraging me to keep going 👍

[@daledenton9246]

@@BrowneysGarage 10 K thank fuck for that brother. 😂👌🏼

[@shadquirk607]

Loving it mate, I got a turbo ute so not everything applies but the stuff that does is priceless.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Nice, I often wish this thing was a ute... not so much for this job! Thanks very much mate, hope you enjoy what we have coming.

[@shadquirk607]

@@BrowneysGarage oh I don't know, old mate here's got the technique down lol! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaq6XqNnrsiepcU

[@bearcatracing007]

Hey man got my turbo t-shirt the other day, good quality and good fit as well. Also yay someone that knows the correct order to do battery cables lol Another great video thanks man!

[@BrowneysGarage]

Mr BearCat - you're a legend, thank you. Glad you're happy with it too, did what screening of them that I could and am pretty confident it's good quality stuff but great to have some other feedback. Hope you enjoy it. Don't hold me to that battery cable thing, I ALWAYS have to double check before I do. Just can't remember it for the life of me! Thanks very much mate 👍

[@bearcatracing007]

@@BrowneysGarage thank you for the videos. Price & difficulty are often left out of videos when people do updates or they just piss over the info that people really need. You always include both, youtube needs more honest people. Hence why I like the way you work, plus respect the beard haha

[@BrowneysGarage]

@@bearcatracing007 Couldn't agree more, part of why I try to cover these - TRY because I'm sure I miss some. Haha thanks mate

[@russelblackwell6041]

Oh the old crimp connectors syndrome can't beat soldering with heat shrink sleeves but you work with what you have anyway nice job Browney

[@BrowneysGarage]

I've got solder setup there, would still prefer crimp connectors - each to their own. Thanks for watching mate 👍

[@gore1978]

soldering and heat shrinking in the wire loom is actually pretty bad for a car, the solid brittle joint with the flex in the cars movement helps speed up breaks in the wire.

[@spiritlevelstudios]

@@gore1978 the heat applied also is not conducive to electrical flow. Crimp connectors are notoriously dodgey though, especially when done with cheap tools.

[@djfunkycraig]

Personally I wouldn’t use heat shrink with fuel, that’s just personally though no harm in a suggestion

[@Doc_in_the_carpet_truck]

Shit hot Browney great way to start another lockdown day🍻👍 Congrats on the 10k milestone too!!!!

[@BrowneysGarage]

Kills a bit of lock down time at least I hope! Legend, thanks very much mate 👍

[@blnkzz1778]

Would this fit a ford fg xr6 na. I feel like this would be a good mod since I have a lot of air intake coming in with this air scoop and stuff maybe the better fuel stuff might actually make it faster? Opinions would be good please

[@brockmacckie9905]

Awsome video didn't know could do this unfounchemtly when i did mine was factory one but axderdently pinched seal had leak but fixed that been sweet ever since looking forward next video really enjoyed this one awsome job mate

[@BrowneysGarage]

Ah well, little issues like that are always the best way to learn - or at least to help remember I reckon! Thanks mate 👍

[@mynamea.n.s.s5472]

Thank you very much another upgrade I’m willing to do

[@BrowneysGarage]

Good luck and thanks for watching!

[@Spike64985]

Great video mate. I’ve recently installed a new fuel pump and filter and ever since then the check engine lights been on. I’ve had it looked at and the injectors were full of gunk must’ve been pushing too much fuel through. Currently waiting on a regulator in the mail as I think the current one might be faulty hopefully that does the trick 👍🏼

[@BrowneysGarage]

How big is the fuel pump you installed, it's not pumping out more fuel than the stock regulator can manage is it? (ie Walbro 460 I believe may have this issue on stock regulator, not sure what code if any that it would throw for that though)

[@jimmyc351]

Thanks for doing this video! I was stuck on how to get the corrugated hoses off, go the hairdryer :)

[@BrowneysGarage]

It's not stupid if it works! 😂 Thanks mate

[@matthewoutram1228]

Another great video mate

[@BrowneysGarage]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it mate 👍

[@jut9296]

Awesome Video ! What happened to the driver side rear door ? @15:55

[@BrowneysGarage]

No idea, been there some time, maybe since I picked up the car... and now it’s all I can see! Thanks mate 👍🤣

[@260bossute]

Not sure if it is in the comments but there is a restrictor in the bottom of the return. Pop the black piece off underneath and drill out the hole size. If you dont, you may have trouble setting fuel rail pressure with aftermarket regs.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Yep probably worth doing while you’re there, good call. The 255 pump used shouldn’t need this I believe, any bigger and you probably will.

[@sharons9367]

Makes sense to do this anyway even with mild upgrade

[@lukeamery6516]

Great video mate, really appreciate your videos and attention to detail just ordered my fuel pump assembly of eBay. Will give it a try to install on my BF MKII 2008 XR6 Ute.. Seems to have a starting issue, my mechanic thought it was my battery as the new battery I bought was 510 cold cranking amps I think the min is 530! So the battery is brand new, now they feel it could be the fuel pump…. Any thoughts browney? Any ideas would be appreciated cheers

[@justkyddingracing9268]

another great video Browney. I initially did just the pump like you before getting mine tuned and can confirm that pump will support 300rwkw as thats what my car has. I get the dreaded fuel cut when on the dragstrip and have bought the big pot which will hopefully fix that. definitely get fuel cut with under half a tank in fact even on half so be sure to be slightly over half a tank when on the strip. downside to that is you are carrying maybe 50 extra kgs with all that fuel in the tank. when the dragstrip opens again i will let you know how the big pot works out with under half a tank.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Hey Geoff, thanks very much for sharing. Will make sure I've got over half then, is a little extra weight but I probably wouldn't run it at the drags under a quarter tank or so anyway even without that reputation so not a huge amount more. Please do let me know how you go if you get a chance, seems like it should definitely help though. Good luck mate 👍

[@spiritlevelstudios]

Updates?

[@tucoselby]

How did you go with the bigger pot size?

[@firstworldproblems6064]

remember to get part number 341 not the other one correct. is this same for fitting into my fg falcon?

[@cop333]

Did this and used the link to buy it but it seems the new one is making the car stall which i checked cables and look over it as I took it out for the second time and can't find the problem so I put the old one back in and it works fine again... I'm using a 2004 ford falcon ba xt mk2

[@KiwiPokerPlayer]

This is a great video for both people wanting to upgrade or simply needing to replace the stock pump. Nice one. I spotted a Ryobi shoplight on the bench Browney, are they any good? I use One+ tools too so already have plenty of batteries.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Thanks very much mate. Never enough light in the garage, especially when filming. I like them, really quite bright and I can generally find somewhere to sit it on. Not much good for hanging anywhere though it does have a hook, and I will say that I recently did kill one after about 4 years or so. A wire got pinched and broke in the pivot between the bottom and top light so lost the top light. Good chance I could have got it sorted under warranty... but of course I had to try sort it myself and my new join broke also, too tight in there for the extra material. 🤷 Have since replace it so fingers crossed it was a once off.

[@KiwiPokerPlayer]

@@BrowneysGarage Good to know, thanks for the mini-review ;). Yeah, if you do the online warranty thing you get 6 years instead of the normal 3 right? It's one thing I like about Ryobi... but I think I would have had a crack at fixing it myself too haha.

[@BrowneysGarage]

@@KiwiPokerPlayer Yep without looking at it that sounds pretty spot on mate. Couldn't help myself haha

[@angry9901]

Great content there. Cheers.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Much appreciated, thanks mate 👍

[@JayDee-xj9lu]

It's best not to bench test a old fuel pump. Whilst it is in fuel the commutator doesn't spark and theres not enough air to ignite. But in the open with the right air fuel ratio and the brushes arcing could cause a explosion.

[@spiritlevelstudios]

Good content 🙂

[@B00stedbarra12]

I like the FG Seats in the car

[@BrowneysGarage]

Thanks mate, believe they're actually the optional BA XR leather seats. Not bad for what they are 👍

[@B00stedbarra12]

Truee

[@johnconroy9555]

Nice job Browney..loved it.. Just a quick question is the pump located in the same place in the BA wagon and do i need to do anything differently...cheers john...Willaura😎

[@BrowneysGarage]

Hey John. I can see why you ask, I wasn't sure and have done some searching... still can't say with certaintly sorry mate. The few posts I saw seemed to allude to it being different and the tank needing to be dropped to do it, I desperately hope I'm wrong though mate! Sorry I can't be more help on this one.

[@johnconroy9555]

@@BrowneysGarage thankyou Browney appreciate that cheers...john...Willaura😎

[@bengibson3955]

The old pump sounds just like the new Bosch 044 I fitted to my Subaru.

[@brettdawson4381]

To primer it put your foot flat on the gas and turn the key it will only crank

[@BrowneysGarage]

Have seen this mentioned before and yet to try it. Probably won't to be honest, I'll be the one guy with a TPS that's out of wack and doesn't read it being at 100% or something so the car does start and go straight to limiter! 🤣

[@brettdawson4381]

Haha she'll be right 😂 tried it on a few haven't had that happened yet I'll keep my fingers crossed

[@lightemupson]

Can confirm my 2004 ba started with my foot flat on the acc pedal, not ideal 😂

[@peabow1031]

Hope your misses doesn't watch your vids you might get a slap😂great vid mate really informative 👍

[@BrowneysGarage]

Lucky she has a bloody good sense of humour, she normally watches the finished product before uploading to make sure I didn't stuff anything up!.. and then slaps me, you're right.😂 Thanks mate.

[@robertmiller2073]

Sudden fuel blockage or other from fuel pump means am doing a pump changeover on 2008 FG which i am largely assuming is very similar to this BA. Relay box diagnosis was is no earth or power being sensed from the pump... is this normal? Not getting any fuel into the system to turn the engine over in the first place which also means I cannot syphon or run low the 3/4 full tank !!! I have noticed that all videos shoot over the removal of the retaining ring (probably as it may seem very easy) but to the first time novice, it has me baffled and ring is NOT budging.... Help!

[@jetletters4307]

I would highly recommend that you drive till near empty I learned that the hard way when I didn’t realise that the project car had a full tank Very messy 😂

[@BrowneysGarage]

And that petrol smell is so easy to get out of the car too! Ouch 😂

[@raschellesherwood6347]

Hey Brownie. Where did you get the el, au polished rocker cover? Or did you polish it up yourself

[@BrowneysGarage]

Mate polished it years ago, was in the ED we now have. Believe it was done 100% by hand with a lot of patience, some sand paper and then polishing pads and Autosol Metal Polish from memory. Looked even better when it was just finished.

[@raschellesherwood6347]

@@BrowneysGarage nice work. Speaking from experience and having not done it by hand I can say great work and take my hat off to ya. Looks mint.. love your vids mate. And big fan. Are you gunna put rocker cover on the new project or is she a trophy and reminder to yourself not all ideas are good ideas lmao. No offence as I said I have polished one up myself, never again.. oh who am I kidding who doesnt love some good ol timey spit shin polish lol

[@BrowneysGarage]

Probably stay as a trophy and no offence, it was a mate who did it - I have no intentions of EVER hand polishing anything even close to that size! Bugger that, even if it does come out looking good. Thanks very much mate 👍

[@stephenpaget3660]

Hay Browny did u have to go to ford to get the a.c. and radio put back on ?

[@BrowneysGarage]

Nope, terminals back on, turn the key and good to go 👍

[@dylandesmond]

Thankyou

[@ba.skidderLOCKDOWN]

I have recently removed the factory tank. So i can run a fuel cell in the boot. And i tell ya now Removal of fuel tank is a huge f##k around. Your have. To drop entire rear cradle just to get tank out as top of tank is sandwiched between the top of cradle n bottom of car floor

[@MrAlvincheryl]

Hi Browney! You base in NSW?

[@juststuffwithwolfe4482]

I have to turn the key on and off three times before starting What would be the issue?

[@brendanmatthys3788]

First I'd be checking my inline fuel filter. Sounds like your pump's working, but it's having a hard time, or there's a blockage

[@BrowneysGarage]

Brendan could be onto it there, sounds like a good place to start. What about if you just crank it first time for as long as it needs, does it eventually start? No issue once running, driving hard etc?

[@juststuffwithwolfe4482]

@@BrowneysGarage yeah but it needs to go for a road worthy

[@hcfcustoms]

Great video mate!!👍,I actually used a walbro 460 knockoff $29 in my XG to work with the 660cc injectors & 4 bar F6 fuel reg,but this was more just to get it running & will get a better one before going to the track. Does work though-not sure on reliability though😏

[@BrowneysGarage]

Amazing how the cheap knock offs work sometimes. But you're right, how long for and you're always going to be wondering when it's time will be up! Sounds like a good thing in an XG anyway, maybe a touch terrifying too. Thanks for watching 👍

[@Bilal_El-Hassan]

Yeah big B

[@BrowneysGarage]

You've seen far too much of my ugly head in videos the last few days, sorry mate! 😂

[@Bilal_El-Hassan]

Keep up the good work. We love the content

[@Frombc2thefuture]

When I rev my car sometimes it turns off anyone know the issue

[@cliffharrington6500]

Dude, next thing to change is the trans, to ZF6, that would be a huge upgrade.

[@10secTonner]

Good luck with that, they are mated with the ecu, no ecu no 6 speed box

[@cliffharrington6500]

@@10secTonner I know, wreckers sell the loom, ecu, box and pedal for the retrofit. Cant believe they were doing it for a 1000 bucks a couple of years ago, roll your car in and roll out a 6 speed fitted inclusive. I think this would be more like 2k now.

[@10secTonner]

@@cliffharrington6500 yea things have gone crazy prices, i bought 2 fg turbos from auction 5 years ago 1 is a g6e turbo other xr6 turbo 7.5k and 8.5k each and the xr6 has 92k on the clock i see turbo motors with ecu selling for 16 grand.

[@cliffharrington6500]

@@10secTonner awesome buys, hard to find with those low k's, hope more people look at doing up these cars because they are becoming iconic, especially the BFs, they have a cult following because of the limited production runs.

[@aarongroth5308]

If you want to make a second part to this in a Ute version I have one available seeming as I’m just being lazy 😂

[@homlesy1172]

you cant put FG ford in your title as the fuel pump lid doesnt just unscrew like the ba bf, they need a different type removal, either a special tool or the good old flatnose screw driver and hamer job to try unscrew the pump ring that locks it in place

[@alkmaaar444]

Do fg’s use the same fuel pump though? Just trying to figure out if I need one that has a float attached to it or not.

[@tonyharrison4378]

Hey Browney, thanks for the vid. I did the same in my late BF MKII XR6, dropping in a Walbro 255 to replace a dying, I assume, Delphi pump in the original assembly.. Did you experience noticeably louder pump noise after the swap out? Mine has a noticeably louder whine than the original, even with the pump in the dampening sleeve that comes with the kit. Other than that, it seems to be working fine. I noticed a few others have experienced the same noise with the Walbro pumps, some even opting to swap them out for quieter options. Something to be aware of I suppose. Also, for those of your viewers with late BF's (09/2007 and onward) and FG's considering this job, the upgraded retaining ring on the tank is a PITA to remove without a special tool, which I found hard to find, and the ones I did find were expensive for a one time use. It's held in place by 6 locking tabs around the retaining ring, that unlock when turned counter-clockwise. To remove it, I ended up carefully prying open the little tabs ever-so-slightly to relieve some downward pressure, and then used two large flat head screwdrivers held in opposing outer notches with a breaker bar in between them for leverage. Get a mate to hold the screwdrivers tightly while you carefully turn the breaker bar. Total hack job but it worked. Reverse proceedure to close. Also, I found the convoluted tubing inside the assembly to be a nighmare to get off intact, even with heat, and would definitely recommend ordering two new ones when you order the pump, as the originals are more likely to get damaged during removal. The 120mm ones I needed cost about $11 each. I ordered the pump and tubes from TI Performance in Melbourne, all up came to $130, which as mentioned, is a significant saving compared to dropping in a new assembly. All the best. Cheers.

[@BrowneysGarage]

Maybe a touch louder when priming for sure, seems to settle a bit after that and be just a touch louder but not terribly noticeable. Maybe more an issue with a factory exhaust? Mind you this car isn't terribly loud, guess I'll notice soon with a factory turbo exhaust in. Glad it wasn't just me that had a tough time on that damn convoluted tubing! 🤣 Thanks mate.

[@dwaynemansell4194]

Be prepared . Buy replacement flexi hoses before you start as when removing them they get chewed up even using a hair dryer . Then using screw drivers etc risks a serious crack to the brittle plastic hose barbs . Hose removal tools were useless and dont work as advertised so bear with it and use your fingers . Hurts but doesn't damage the barb .These were the problems we faced and solved when we followed this video . Very helpful video but spend 20 dollars and buy the flixi and just cut the old hoses off .

[@chrisharvey9537]

JUST INSTALLED A 255 (2011 XR6T) WITH NEW FUEL FILTER , GO TO START HER UP AND SHE BARELY RUNS ! IDLES LIKE A BAG OF SHIT , NOT HUGE ONES OR OFTEN BUT LIL SORTA BACKFIRES AS SHES STRUGGLING JUST TO RUN ......IDEAS ??? AND NO THE FILTER ISNT ON BACKWARDS .)

[@BrowneysGarage]

Definitely genuine pump? Did you go just new pump or whole assembly, and if pump only is the wiring correct? Or return and outlet fuel lines on the pump around the right way?

[@robertbogar1501]

I don't know how the hell the basket comes off, have watched over 10 times, clips open try aned move the hose, will not budge, there must be something else clipping it in

[@ashleydibben9276]

Got my Territory Turbo pump done 455lph an they give it back to me With the Gauge not working I gave them the car with Under a quarter of a tank left when I got back from them my fuel gauge was working 100% went around to PB to fill it up an the gauge stayed the same The Gauge will only go up to half a tank if that I took her back to them And they Looked With the computer Then tried to say it was Afiel pump assembly which was old lol Big head f--k And I had them installed 1000cc injectors turbo oil line and a Tuning Altogether at the same timeEventually found A receipt in the side of my chair in the car lol for a $100 to hire the Dino Which they charged me $300 +1250 Tuning and they are a big shop in Victoria That will gonna charge me $600 to fix the gauge lol I did not take it back The Third time Now every time I feel that my tank I have to reset and make sure it's always topped up Going to get fixed soon

[@jasonedwards5673]

Hey mate love the videos very informative 👍🏽 FYI I'm apart of a FB group/forum called NA+T Falcon group throw a pm if yah want an invite it cheers