The Time Marvel Copied Itself | Ultimate Avengers

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There was a time before the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a time where the entire world didn't really know about "The Avengers"... before the MCU came Lionsgate's Marvel Animated Features.. and the film that started it all was Ultimate Avengers. If you were a Marvel fan from before the MCU's existence, you know what I'm talking about. So let's dip our toes in some nostalgia!
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@juliiju0484
@juliiju0484 Жыл бұрын
For many, this movie is what The Ultimates comics should have been: A modern version of the Avengers, but at the same time not ashamed of its roots. And as a movie, I have to say that even though it has several flaws, this movie and its sequel are still holding up pretty decently. A great start to the brief but legendary "Marvel Animated Features"
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't hulk a cannibal in the comics?
@LeonardoSilva-nh2gg
@LeonardoSilva-nh2gg Жыл бұрын
@@jaylenharris343 yes '-'
@gigatronusprime
@gigatronusprime Жыл бұрын
Ultimates 2, the comic, was fun, but that's it.
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Жыл бұрын
@Yeehaw ...wtf?
@Cotygeek
@Cotygeek Жыл бұрын
@@jaylenharris343 Yeah, and Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were "together". Mark Millar was just the wrong dude to write that book.
@somogyigabor2524
@somogyigabor2524 Жыл бұрын
Hulk lifting the hammer makes sense, since this adaptation is based on the Ultimates. In those comics Mjölnir works like it works in mythology. Theres no "worthines" enchantment you just have to be really really strong
@dr.rockzo7193
@dr.rockzo7193 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was so confused by this as a kid
@TonyJaaFan1587
@TonyJaaFan1587 6 ай бұрын
Because of this movie I didn’t know the hammer worked differently in marvel than it did in mythology and this movie, I was still young so it makes sense why I thought that way but I could’ve easily figured out the differences if I had just looked it up
@tbuckley2031
@tbuckley2031 3 ай бұрын
I was 8 and I just saw the avengers: oh is he gonna do the same th- WHAT OHHHHHH
@danielvaughn1947
@danielvaughn1947 Ай бұрын
And that's stupid. Ultimates universe is stupid
@freddylisy10
@freddylisy10 Ай бұрын
@@danielvaughn1947how is it stupid, it’s just a hammer in myth and it takes the god to wield it as he does for it become feared. what’s stupid is that the hammer is what makes the god in the comics. Maybe less so now but in the early days Thor had a time limit where he turns back into a human when separated from his hammer, and it’s stupid that the hammer arbitrarily picks people to be like yeah you get the same power as a marvel powerhouse, by lifting me up instead of just being a hammer that’s heavy. Like it is in the myth and it’s the fact that it’s being wielded by Thor that it’s feared by all.
@catalandustin51
@catalandustin51 Жыл бұрын
This movie made me love Captain America. Him never giving up against the hulk and his struggle to accept the leadership role. The hulk vs the avengers is one of my favorite fights
@Beast_Of_Madness
@Beast_Of_Madness Жыл бұрын
"You! We're not done yet!" *Punches the fucking Hulk.*
@catalandustin51
@catalandustin51 Жыл бұрын
@@Beast_Of_Madness YES, he's such a badass
@MineKurtMininer
@MineKurtMininer Жыл бұрын
i was most familiar with The next avengers
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@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby Жыл бұрын
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@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
@@Beast_Of_Madness Probably my favorite Captain America of all time. It was so badass!
@darn4285
@darn4285 Жыл бұрын
This was basically the 616 Avengers in the 1610 storylines (kind of), honestly prefer Hulk being more of a failed Captain America experiment, adds more to the story.
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@slimeydacoolguy3916
@slimeydacoolguy3916 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that’s what happened in the e MCU as well
@darn4285
@darn4285 Жыл бұрын
@@slimeydacoolguy3916 True but it was a nod at best, they did not make it into a storyline unlike Ultimate Avengers.
@Two-Man-Production
@Two-Man-Production Жыл бұрын
The Ultimate movies and EMH’s really do make Cap feel like a man out of time, from Ultimate Cap revisiting Bucky and the fallen to EMH’s meeting Fury and telling him about his connections. They truly make him feel like a living legend with no identity in the modern age.
@shadowtrooper4435
@shadowtrooper4435 Жыл бұрын
The movie is truly great and I love Ultimate Avengers, but just having revisited the film last night, the only true flaw I could find was that it was extremely rushed. Pacing was unbelievably fast and didn't give you much time to process anything. I would have rather had a three hour film of that though, then Infinity War.
@Will_Rules
@Will_Rules Жыл бұрын
i love that. in the MCU its kinda rushed. but in EMH and this movie it makes you feel like hes a legend placed out of time trying to make the most out of this bad situation
@marxvargas7697
@marxvargas7697 8 ай бұрын
​@@shadowtrooper4435idk about that, I understood it perfectly when I was below 8 years old.
@shadowtrooper4435
@shadowtrooper4435 8 ай бұрын
@@marxvargas7697 so did I..but it still felt kinda sped up.
@TotallyNotKanye
@TotallyNotKanye 7 ай бұрын
@@shadowtrooper4435as a kid i always had to watch them on vacation trips and i found them lengthy and boring but there’s something about them… i wouldn’t call them rushed!
@lazerstudios9982
@lazerstudios9982 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Before Edward Norton was fired, the main antagonist for Avengers (2012) was supposed to be The Hulk. Norton actively advocated for this vision until he was fired
@LeePresson
@LeePresson Жыл бұрын
They wanted an actor but they accidentally hired an actor/writer/director/producer/editor! Norton is not a team player, he's a one-man show.
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 Жыл бұрын
So firing Norton was the event that turned the MCU into what it is now...? Like a cruel butterfly effect.
@albertwesker6153
@albertwesker6153 Жыл бұрын
For fuck sake, seriously Edward Norton is the hulk/Banner
@LeePresson
@LeePresson Жыл бұрын
Edward thinks he's an auteur. Disney has no room for auteurs.
@ashura9706
@ashura9706 Жыл бұрын
I miss when the Hulk was a wild card, sometimes a hero sometimes a villain.
@starfalchion4404
@starfalchion4404 Жыл бұрын
Aspects of this movie are stuff I wish was in the original Avengers movie like having Ant-Man and the Wasp in it, Betty Ross playing a role in Bruce’s story, and Captain America’s struggle with living in a world where nearly everyone he knows and loves are gone or moved on.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i kind of missed Betty Ross. Wish they would've kept her in the movies, even if they recasted her. Just keep her as a SHIELD scientist.
@jayguero2123
@jayguero2123 Жыл бұрын
Janet and Hank are being forgotten to time. Almost like Marvel wants to phase them out permanently. Which is such a shame because both are my favorite characters in EMH.
@theyef3479
@theyef3479 Жыл бұрын
I rewatched that hulk fight hundreds of times as a kid
@dimitrescu182
@dimitrescu182 Жыл бұрын
I was actually hoping they do that fight too in live action
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@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
I still rewatch that fight.
@ShmuckLord385
@ShmuckLord385 Жыл бұрын
He bodies everybody, and then Nick comes out and is like "you can NOT win, and he's currently sedated! He's nerfed and he's folding you! His hot nerdy gf is the only way!" Pure bad ass energy, hulk feels like a real walking catastrophe. This movie set the highest bar for the hulk, and no one has ever topped it.
@daviddejesus3391
@daviddejesus3391 8 ай бұрын
My father is a huge comic nerd and this movie was his first time introducing me to the avengers. This movie is more than a movie to me. This movie is a central part of my childhood and the relationship I have with my father
@BookofCommonTerror
@BookofCommonTerror 7 ай бұрын
Man, I love that. Cap would be proud.
@stopthecap6913
@stopthecap6913 Жыл бұрын
This Captain America is probably the greatest cinematic Captain America so far, albeit not being fully accurate to neither Ultimate Cap nor 616-Cap (sort of like a mix between the two which was a welcoming change).
@jaredgarcia8638
@jaredgarcia8638 Жыл бұрын
And a good thing too. Since ultimate cap is....something else
@ggt47
@ggt47 Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgarcia8638 Good old racist.
@nexusprime2487
@nexusprime2487 Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgarcia8638 Thank goodness this and the MCU had more of the 616 version in them than the ultimate 1610 version.
@jaredgarcia8638
@jaredgarcia8638 Жыл бұрын
@@nexusprime2487 I would never like cap If he was written by Mark Millar
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@masonearhart2968
@masonearhart2968 Жыл бұрын
LMAO Hulk just punching the shit out of Hank's leg actually SENT me
@callumdrage5889
@callumdrage5889 Жыл бұрын
I swear Captain America and Hulk are the two most interesting Marvel characters from a story point perspective. They’re just so fascinating. Cap - a man out of time, living in a time he doesn’t understand. Hulk - a man desperate to subdue the monstrous aspect of himself he fears more than anything else. That is amazing writing points!
@chonkyloreraccoon3686
@chonkyloreraccoon3686 Жыл бұрын
Wait… so you’re telling me them not making Steve Rogers a raging racist was the right move? But how else are they going to make him edgy? What’s nuance? Clearly the only way to tell that these stories is by throwing all that out the door and replacing them with one dimensional angst
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 Жыл бұрын
I actually like racist captain america in the comics because let's be honest if a man from the 1940s woke up in modern times they would probably not be as accustomed to the mindset of modern humans in America also racist captain america is accurately representing most people in america who are racists let's be honest america is a very racist country like, France
@parkeranimations3671
@parkeranimations3671 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeymouse7726 come on dude not everyone was a raging racist lunatic.
@ianbruno237
@ianbruno237 Жыл бұрын
Uhhhh I don’t remember cap being a racist in ultimates or in most of his incarnations
@rosalinamacarita01
@rosalinamacarita01 Жыл бұрын
@@ianbruno237 you didn't pay attention then, because he is racist on the ultimate universe.
@aetherspride
@aetherspride Жыл бұрын
@@rosalinamacarita01 No hes not lol
@ИванПандев
@ИванПандев Жыл бұрын
One of the best things in this movie back then was that in this version Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff start romantic relationship this is something they really could include in MCU infinity saga also this old animated Marvel movie shows best versions of Captain America, Nick Fury, Black Widow, Thor and Hulk
@dimitrescu182
@dimitrescu182 Жыл бұрын
This movie introduced me to Captain America, Thor, Ant Man, Wasp, and Black Widow but Cap to me is the standout just because of how much guts he showed trying to fight Hulk despite being completely outmatched.
@radrno7
@radrno7 Жыл бұрын
I think something that doesn't get enough appreciating in this movie is how much it tries to have realistic stakes to everything and that is something that I only realize now as an adult. Captain America having insecurities as a leader makes him fail, but also better for having to deal with that responsability over his own needs. Iron Man having a secret identity hinders him, but also makes him better for having to stand all that criticism in silence. Thor going against his own father leaves him by himself, but also makes him better for having to hold his ground on what he believes. Ant-Man having struggles to follow orders makes him fail, but also makes him better for having to learn to work with others. And all of that is only the characters and their arcs. All of them are seen as superheroes, but deep down they're all just humans just like anyone else. They have flaws, they make mistakes, they get hurt, they suffer with their regrets, but they always choose to get back up and try again, even if that means sacrificing their lives to do what has to be done in order to do what's right. Seeing them being almost killed in such brutal ways really made me think about how this story could've easily ended up like an episode from 'The Boys'.
@Miguel_morales99
@Miguel_morales99 Жыл бұрын
Completely forgot how much of a beast cap was taking on hulk. Walked up to him and hit him with a right hook, even getting hulkt to stumble from it. Cap in general was done well same with everyone
@leoorduna2199
@leoorduna2199 Жыл бұрын
Note: In Earth 1610, the Super-Soldier serum plays an important role in the Ultimate Universe as many parties sought to recreate the serum that created Captain America. This resulted in the creation of the mutants, the spider that bit Peter Parker, the Osborne formula, the Hulk's creation, and Captain America's analogues in Europe. And the MCU tried to do something similar.
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 Жыл бұрын
I actually love the first captain america movie alot it's directed by Joe Johnston and it has that Rocketeer type of fun tone that I really like
@umjackd
@umjackd Жыл бұрын
It's one of those movies where the first 2 acts are fantastic and then it kind of loses me in the third act. They set up his character really well, but were like "Oh wait I guess we need to finish the movie somehow" and it just felt like ticking the necessary boxes.
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@radrno7
@radrno7 Жыл бұрын
It's a good Steve Rogers movie, but not a good Captain America movie. The whole World War II parts just don't feel as heavy as the characterization they gave to the protagonist. It's like the opposite of 'Wonder Woman', where the best parts were the World War I parts showing Wonder Woman and the weaker ones were of Princess Diana in Themiscyra. If they made the 'Captain America' war scenes like they did in 'Wonder Woman', with all the struggles people were facing at war, it would've been perfect.
@marxvargas7697
@marxvargas7697 8 ай бұрын
That film is awesome. Steve's relationship with Agent Carter, Bucky, and Howard Stark were frigging great.
@commandervideo5273
@commandervideo5273 Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda funny seeing everyone love this version of Ultimate Cap without knowing how hated comic Ultimate Cap is.
@darn4285
@darn4285 Жыл бұрын
He is not exactly hated, he is not particularly loved or cherished either. He was the best part of the first Ultimates comic, be it a good or a bad thing.
@alonsoarana5307
@alonsoarana5307 25 күн бұрын
He's so terrible, an unironic version of Soldier Boy but without any of the actual humor
@GiantGeekGuy
@GiantGeekGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes! So glad I'm not the only one who grew up on the UA movie, most of the new MCU fans have no idea this movie exists, and here I am who has seen it years before The Avengers (2012). Now talk about the second movie where the 3rd act is basically a mockup for the Infinity War Wakanda Battle (City dome shield, Cap and T'challa fighting together, War Machine armor, etc.)
@simonmann4922
@simonmann4922 Жыл бұрын
They should add them to Disney plus honestly
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
Huh, I didn't even think about that connection
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 Жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty obvious that MCU fans that care about the Live Action movies more than anything have no childhood for the cartoons.
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 9 ай бұрын
Wow, it's almost like there were people your age at the same time!
@Wooshey_Wooj
@Wooshey_Wooj 8 ай бұрын
To be fair in the original avengers comic, they did fight the hulk. He was under Loki‘s control, but still it was a Avengers vs hulk situation.
@cervanno05
@cervanno05 Жыл бұрын
When I first watched The Avengers in the cinema, I was half-expecting the scene in the Helliciarrier to be similar to this film. I mean, can you imagine Cap vs Hulk in live-action?
@kaiwilliams141
@kaiwilliams141 Жыл бұрын
I got this for my sixth birthday and I still love it. This is what made me think Captain America was cool. I thought it was so cool that he stood against the hulk even though he was totally outmatched
@alexthrailkill
@alexthrailkill Жыл бұрын
I LOVED Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, I had them on DVD growing up. Cap’s “Haven’t you heard? Hitler’s DEAD” line has stuck in my head for years, I don’t even think I knew who Hitler was when I first saw it.
@jingleballs9935
@jingleballs9935 7 ай бұрын
As a kid this was definitive avengers for me. Especially after seeing the kid avengers. It was my favorite trilogy.
@moonknightanimations1251
@moonknightanimations1251 Жыл бұрын
Bro I freaking MISS the old Marvel animated movies. Thank you so much for making this!
@theirishpotato6588
@theirishpotato6588 Жыл бұрын
Same plus the young avengers one and hulk vs one
@theirishpotato6588
@theirishpotato6588 Жыл бұрын
@TheGlassesPro wrong, dumbass
@NuggetGX
@NuggetGX Жыл бұрын
@TheGlassesPro its different though. It works in animation, just not in live action.
@comicbooknerd3570
@comicbooknerd3570 Жыл бұрын
@@NuggetGX It can still work in live action. It’s not just for animation. Not everything’s needs to follow the mcu formula. That’s just your opinion lol. Why do you think a lot of dceu fans like the way the the universe started and we’re fine with it?
@NuggetGX
@NuggetGX Жыл бұрын
@@comicbooknerd3570 because your a fan of the franchise and regardless of what they put out your always going to try to give them the benefit of the doubt. The way the dceu not only started, but ran was a complete mess. Hopefully james gunn can fix it up 🙏🙏🙏
@cyclone9716
@cyclone9716 9 ай бұрын
In the comics the illustrator misread the script he was supposed to accidentally hit her but the illustrator made it look intentional and they had no time to fix it . And the reason why he was so mad in the first place is because he was kicked off the team, trying to prove to them that he is a substantial member to the team he was in his office for countless days making robots and the wasp was worried about Hank. being frustrated he got angry and did a "get away from me" pose and stuck her across the face
@bibbus3588
@bibbus3588 Жыл бұрын
I remember owing this movie on DVD when i was a kid and being so confused after watching the Avengers movie because I thought it was supposed to be an adaptation of the animated movie
@grey_nachos
@grey_nachos 7 ай бұрын
honest opinion: this ultimate avengers movie was one of my favourite marvel productions. i like it, ever since the first time i watched it when i was little
@MChedderbeef
@MChedderbeef 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely love the voice cast for these movies. This is the voice I hear in my head for Nick Fury. Also: just in case anyone’s wondering, in the Ultimates, Hulk goes on a rampage because he finds out Betty is on a date with another man, ends up killing hundreds of people and Betty eventually reveals that she’s turned on by Bruce’s jealousy.
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 Жыл бұрын
The thing that I find strange about the Chitauri in these movies is they can shape shift but only one of them uses this ability
@julianstephenpaulino
@julianstephenpaulino Жыл бұрын
"They're fighting N4Z1 ALIENS" Well, the History Channel is gonna have a field day with this one
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 9 ай бұрын
"Aliens. N4ZI Aliens."
@DWAkhaten
@DWAkhaten 6 ай бұрын
11:29 - 12:23 If there's ever a time when I feel bad for the Avengers, it's whenever they have to try to fight the Hulk. Because you know that at best, they're about to get their asses beat really badly, and at worst, some of them are about to lose their lives.
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Жыл бұрын
I wish they made more animated movies like these again. Remember Hulk vs Wolverine/Thor, that shit was awesome.
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandolad and brutal, I'll never forget seeing hulk tear through the asgardian army like they're nothing.
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Жыл бұрын
@TheGlassesPro it was cool knowing that, I was confused that thor didn't recognize him when he first saw him though.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 Жыл бұрын
@TheGlassesPro source? Trust me bro
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@blackleaf12
@blackleaf12 7 ай бұрын
They really need to do Spider-Man animated movies in this style, not as a kid but more an adult.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as kid & absolutely loving it while being taken aback by how different some characters felt. Will definitely rewatch it after this video.
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@keiganmiller3281
@keiganmiller3281 7 ай бұрын
Now talk about super hero squad and it’s run of the infinite saga waaaaay before mcu started to really pick up
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 Жыл бұрын
I like the movie but I kinda feel sometimes the movie lack progression(like Black widow like captain América because Yes) but still was very cool to see this modern team not being really assholes. I always thought they would made a ultimate spider-man tv show like in the comics(the one we got lets be real dosen't have much ultimate spider-man like in the comics)
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@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
I like that she was more gentle and looked up to Cap when she was talking to him. Also, I agree about Ultimate Spiderman. Would have been very cool to see that comic series made into a cartoon.
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 Жыл бұрын
​@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpSpectacular is the closest we have (and at this point it's obvious thst it's gonna be the only thing)
@Tracer_Krieg
@Tracer_Krieg Жыл бұрын
One thing about Hank beating up Janet in the comics: that happened only once and Hank was not in his right mind at the time. That element, as you mentioned, got exploded by Mark Miller in the Ultimates making it an extremely abusive relationship, which retroactively corrupted an otherwise pretty wholesome relationship. Hank Pym was not an abusive asshole.
@willO1674
@willO1674 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If I believe when Hank went all yellow jacket his mind was messed up
@sonictennyson2201
@sonictennyson2201 Жыл бұрын
Hank did nothing wrong,he just needed therapy.
@McDagger90
@McDagger90 Жыл бұрын
I remember being a teenager when this came out and my father bought it for me on dvd and we watched it together. I really enjoyed it. It was such great writing and performances (Nolan North as Antman) - both of them were great. It's a shame it wasn't a trilogy and that marvel didn't continue making more animated movies like this
@DiamondBatToons
@DiamondBatToons Жыл бұрын
This movie was my first ever exposure to the Avengers! I loved everything about this film, mainly Iron Man's bulkier armor design!
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@dimitrescu182
@dimitrescu182 Жыл бұрын
10:52 that sudden cut is funny
@captinblone
@captinblone 7 ай бұрын
In the comics thors Hammer gets heavier the more someone who isn't worthy tries to lift it, but since Hulk is yk "hulk" he succeeds, so it makes sense
@joelcartagena953
@joelcartagena953 6 ай бұрын
In the Ultimate comics the Ultimates are technically the Ultimate Universe version of the Avengers. And I love that so much better than the main Marvel continuity.
@James_shelton
@James_shelton Жыл бұрын
The animated movie actually introduced me to the MCU so I’m great full for that
@crunchytrojan
@crunchytrojan 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching both of these as a kid really thought hulk was gonna pick up the hammer in live action because of this movie 😂
@The.Ronin.Kuzuri
@The.Ronin.Kuzuri 7 ай бұрын
I would love for an adaptation of the comics again in a tv form, matching the story of Mark Millar and art of Bryan Hitch down to the last detail. (Obviously this would have to be animated)
@SecretMagician
@SecretMagician Ай бұрын
The closest thing I can recommend is Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. It's an adaptation of the original 616 Avengers instead of the Ultimates, but it's still the best adaptation of them. Yes, it's better than the MCU.
@somethingrealistg
@somethingrealistg Жыл бұрын
Yes the close captions really do translate chitari to shitari
@Masterge77
@Masterge77 10 ай бұрын
This movie was definitely what The Ultimates should have been, considering they're much closer to the original Avengers rather than the blatant super soldiers we got in the Ultimate Universe. Of course, a big reason why The Ultimates was the way it was had been the result of a post-9/11 media landscape, in which it was largely Mark Millar critiquing President Bush's foreign policy without explicitly bringing up things like Iraq and Afghanistan or things like that. Unsurprisingly, those comics did NOT age well, this movie aged much better than they did, and now we have a better version of even THIS with the 2012 movie.
@_ChoccooMilkk_
@_ChoccooMilkk_ 11 ай бұрын
I could never get past the hulk part in this movie, I was so scared of hulk. My fear of him was very sporadic though, I had tons of hulk toys and games, and watched the cartoon all the time, but this movie and anything else scared me. I do remember loving this movie though.
@kevinsakaofficial
@kevinsakaofficial 7 ай бұрын
You are young and lucky u had tv shows. We used to flip pages of comic books..and that's gold..the OGs
@localloser7415
@localloser7415 Жыл бұрын
Establishes titles ads always make me laugh hard after what happened
@bruh-bg5mm
@bruh-bg5mm Жыл бұрын
Ultimates cap is the best cap. EMH is 2nd because I feel like he did not live up to his true comic strength.But can we talk about how ultimate was able to 1v1 the hulk? Even tho he defeated Ant Man and Thor and Stark, he still choose to stand up to the Hulk, even tho he knew he was no match. I truly love this Cap wish this was the 2012 Avengers movie. Can we also admire the amount of times Cap was ragdolled? Also I love how he just tell's Hulk am not done with and just punched him in the face was Fucking fantastic!.
@darn4285
@darn4285 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. However, there is no movie or shows that got Cap "fully" right but just some aspects of him. Like Ultimates is Cap with his compelling man out of time driven story, leadership or tactical skills, never say die attitude and superhuman physical abilities. EMH is Cap with his inspirational speeches, commanding presence and noble character. MCU Cap with his peerless fighting skills whether martial arts or otherwise. There are so many parts of what makes comic book Captain America great that is never adapted to its last drop in his mainstream incarnations. Ultimate Avengers is the closest however.
@surfersilver6610
@surfersilver6610 10 ай бұрын
@@darn4285 💯 and something people don't realize, nor the Dr. Who(pun) created the SSS knew, was that just like Hulk who gets stronger when he gets angrier, Steve does so also to a lesser degree but based on WILL POWER not anger and it explains 90% of 'plot armor' seen in his tales. People go by his BASE stats of 800lbs overhead lift, but that was 40 years ago and he's grown physically since the 1950s when he had a more slim figure (looks 180lbs) and was very fast and strong back then. In the late 1980's onward he was 40-60lbs bigger. That's 40lbs+ of SSS muscle, not regular muscles. His bones are denser, overall everything is enhanced and in SYNERGY, but most people think he's just on Super Steroids and just 'Strong'. Cap man handled Iron Fist with only BASIC fighting moves, as narrated straight from Danny's thoughts. Yet I see people putting IF and others, above Cap on H2H fighting lists.smh.
@surfersilver6610
@surfersilver6610 10 ай бұрын
*1940s
@ldiod4374
@ldiod4374 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, 616 Hank didn’t “beat the shit out of Janet”. It was a misinterpretation of the intended scene on the artist’s part and it was the only time he ever “beat” her. It’s not like he abused her on a daily basis.
@BlackKingArmory
@BlackKingArmory Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@PlaceHolder007YT
@PlaceHolder007YT Жыл бұрын
established titles is a good prank gift and nothing more. you do not actually become a lord, laird, or lady. you don't even own the land, you just have usage of it, and if you want to help the trees, just donate to an actual charity
@shrey-varad
@shrey-varad 4 ай бұрын
this is why I think that captain america's first movie should have started with him freezing over, and have the rest of the movie be a citizen kane style exploration of past events. where he trudges through his memories and tries to understand the innumerable changes between his time and modern day.
@Sonic2332
@Sonic2332 Жыл бұрын
I think Hulk being able to pick up mjolnir proves it’s not a magic hammer at all and Thor really is just off his rocker.
@xavierhollander6521
@xavierhollander6521 7 ай бұрын
The Ultimates comic was brilliant.
@maxxgunner5573
@maxxgunner5573 Жыл бұрын
Even tho it's bad aspects (racist Cap, evil Hulk, evil Ant-Man, and antiquated trends and unnecessary violence) prevent me from putting the Ultimates on my very top favorite Avengers comics, cuz the mainstream OG marvel avengers comics are the ones I like to read the most, the Ultimates are in my 2nd top for it's good parts: the parts revealing the hidden hearts under their jerkishness, the character development they grow most of them, the action, the atmosphere, the modern take helping the Avengers franchise back into sales, and finally the Ultimates comics 1 and 2 did help inspire the MCU (along with the animated movies).
@offshorecomedy
@offshorecomedy Жыл бұрын
Oh no.....ma boy fell for the Established title scam too 💔
@miloofcroton1069
@miloofcroton1069 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is what the hulk should’ve been in the MCU just purely unstoppable
@nafyne
@nafyne Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing back memories. I have thought about these movies so often as they were also my introduction into the wider Marvel Universe. I wasn’t certain when I saw the title but as I watched and saw the scenes, the memories came flooding back. I watched these two so much growing up. Wish I still had them somewhere
@Boomy2nicce
@Boomy2nicce 3 ай бұрын
If Norton wanted the hulk to be the secret main villain in the avengers then it could’ve been pulled off perfectly tbh and so to prove how strong and uncontrollable he is as an asset. Hell that would even warrant them at least to give us a planet hulk movie. I genuinely think the mcu failed directly after avengers age of ultron simply for not doing more with what they had
@nickwilliams794
@nickwilliams794 Жыл бұрын
Hank Pym never beat the shit out of Janet in the original comics. I'm reading the tales to Astonish comics and they're partners.
@zackanderson7440
@zackanderson7440 Жыл бұрын
Turns out the closed captions did both and more.
@xavierhollander6521
@xavierhollander6521 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic movie. Everybody loves it.
@fawning
@fawning Жыл бұрын
thank you SO much for making this video. This movie defined my childhood & seeing it get the love it deserves makes me mad happy
@ghoul5371
@ghoul5371 4 ай бұрын
This is probably my fav Captain America
@joebove4
@joebove4 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate Avengers demonstrated to me that Millar never should have been writer for those comics. Plotting, absolutely. But his general distaste for all of these characters no matter what he was writing always shone through.
@powerhouse6165
@powerhouse6165 Жыл бұрын
The chituari are sooo much scarier in this version. Also I enjoy this depiction of Thor a whole lot more.
@gilbert60453
@gilbert60453 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the avengers movies aren't original, the 2 animated movies were the actual blue print. They came out in 2006. But to be honest, it's also annoying how the movies de powered cap. In the 2006 anime movie, the guy flipped a tank to use it's guns like a normal human flipping a book. No effort. And I like how he threw around all those soldiers the moment he woke up from ice, in the movie it was only 2 guys and in the anime he threw around at least 10 guys shooting at him and had no shield
@stopthecap6913
@stopthecap6913 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, people forget how strong he really is in the comics. They always weaken to him to "humanise" him more.
@GoldNTrak
@GoldNTrak 4 ай бұрын
Hawkeye would’ve been a nice addition to the ultimate avengers
@monstresswitcher
@monstresswitcher 3 ай бұрын
I put off watching these movies for YEARS cause the ultimate comics traumatised me when I was a teen
@Niko.one.shot.
@Niko.one.shot. Ай бұрын
11:29 yeah this made the hulk a monster
@Namekisinthehandsofgoku
@Namekisinthehandsofgoku Жыл бұрын
I used to watch this as a kid and I could not find it until now
@retrozip
@retrozip Жыл бұрын
Ultimate Averagers 2 was my introduction to marvel
@noir-214
@noir-214 3 ай бұрын
These movies make the ultimate universe look good with good storytelling and great characters. Yeah, that sounds like the ultimate universe comics (except the ultimate Spiderman comics. Those are great)
@Feedback72
@Feedback72 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow that ad already doesn’t age well 😂
@Boy54-qp5pg
@Boy54-qp5pg Жыл бұрын
9:44 that made me LOOSE IT!!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
@Boy54-qp5pg
@Boy54-qp5pg Жыл бұрын
Poor tony
@Boy54-qp5pg
@Boy54-qp5pg Жыл бұрын
11:17 AH, yes, the only way to stop the hulk.... MAN'S NO 1 WEAKNESS Women☕
@knuxuki1013
@knuxuki1013 Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, the captions got Chitari right
@jazzmyn5804
@jazzmyn5804 Жыл бұрын
I loved this run of Marvel animated movies as a kid!! I still go back and watch Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow and Thor: Tales of Asgard
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
Yes, same here! I recently bought the complete dvd collection of the Marvel animated movies. So many memories.
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 Жыл бұрын
I hate it when they get compared to the MCU tho'.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 what do you mean?
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Isn't obvious?? everyone else just cares about the MCU now more than anything else Marvel has back then, like why am I the only one that shows love and support to Marvel's Animation more than it's stupid Live Action movies? why??
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 that's what I've been saying too! The last thing that truly felt like Marvel was the Avengers: Earth's mightiest heroes show. I've gotten really tired of the MCU, especially because now it feels like everything has to mirror and promote only the MCU. It can't stand on its own. We aren't getting anymore unique and interesting takes on Marvel like these old shows/movies. I've been buying all the old marvel shows/movies on dvd.
@MechanicalPie
@MechanicalPie 4 ай бұрын
Watched the animated as a young teenager, and my god I loved the voice acting. Especially when hulk punches Hank’s knee out, it felt so visceral. Even Cap’s tired attempts to calm down the Hulk. Hell, even the Hulk was amazing! I came back to watching this not too long ago because the scenes and voice acting are still in my head, I had to rewatch.
@crimzon16
@crimzon16 Жыл бұрын
I remember renting this from my local library when I was a kid probably Avengers and even EMH. I could remember some tidbits like hulk forcing thor's hammer and the cap out of time stuff
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
Marvel should definitely make more animated movies in the future. The old ones like Ultimate Avengers, Planet Hulk, Hulk VS. and Doctor Strange are super underreated. I loved those.
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002
@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 Жыл бұрын
Same cause' I felt alot better now that X-Men 97' is annouced, feels good to be free from the MCU fanbase prison lol.
@E.h.a.n
@E.h.a.n Жыл бұрын
Yooo browntable upload. Let's go
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby Жыл бұрын
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@jhonatanqueiroz717
@jhonatanqueiroz717 2 ай бұрын
This movie is The real dcamu of The ultimate Marvel
@RingJester1Real
@RingJester1Real Ай бұрын
I was born before two eras, and grew up with both.
@StrykerPrimeProductions
@StrykerPrimeProductions Жыл бұрын
11:48 Is it just me or did Cap sound like Steve Blum?
@jamyleach8292
@jamyleach8292 7 ай бұрын
Being an elder nerd i noticed this right off.
@samengelage3521
@samengelage3521 19 күн бұрын
Having just rewatched the ultimates movies as an adult, they both have some definite problems that I didn't see as a kid, but despite that, they still hold up pretty well.
@jacobwt1
@jacobwt1 Жыл бұрын
Established title's is a scam
@ThtSunbreaker
@ThtSunbreaker 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to capitolism
@ConStormENT
@ConStormENT 18 күн бұрын
the bloopers were pretty great too
@noirhacks
@noirhacks 4 ай бұрын
i love this movie i watched so much when i was little and i hate when people say the ultimate's comic sucks or isn't good because it is i mean look at this movie it adapts the ultimate's comic beat for beat and it works and is a good story to the point where they pulled from it to make the mcu
@matthewvanzandt6589
@matthewvanzandt6589 Жыл бұрын
Never saw the 1st one but the second ultimate avengers movie was pretty dope, I watched it a lot
@2balls1nut
@2balls1nut Жыл бұрын
Hot Take, I like this more than the 2012 film. While that film is a great blockbuster, Ultimate Avengers explores the characters in a more interesting way. Plus that final battle with the hulk beats any action scene in 2012 Avengers.
@autobotproductions1244
@autobotproductions1244 Жыл бұрын
Puny god Trumps all in my opinion Plus I prefer that Hulk starts as a threat then becomes an ally at the end
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby Жыл бұрын
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@balakay9141
@balakay9141 Жыл бұрын
I got this at a movie rental place when I was 4 and never returned it
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Great video, man! So glad you're finally covering this 🔥
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby
@Telegrxxm.me-Two_Cents_Rugby Жыл бұрын
Congratulations you're the lucky winner of the ongoing giveaway text me on telegram to claim your prize..
@treytonjohnson1
@treytonjohnson1 Жыл бұрын
oof the established titles sponsorship didn't age well
@raulvillarroel7316
@raulvillarroel7316 Жыл бұрын
finally someone else noticed this!!! I've told my family and friends about how mcu and these animated fils are almost the same, wich is not something bad at all, but any of my friends thought I was right when I told them haha. I loved "Ultimate avengers movie" it made me get to love marvel and is a very important part of my childhood, it was thanks to this movie that i realized Ironman was my favourite super hero ever, so I was actually very very happy to pretty much watch this movie come true when I watched 2012 "The Avengers" for the first time.
@assassinsknight
@assassinsknight Жыл бұрын
For the record, Pete and Miles aren’t terrible people in the Ultimate Universe.
@autobotproductions1244
@autobotproductions1244 9 ай бұрын
They’re the only ones
@capybara455
@capybara455 7 ай бұрын
Tony too by an exent
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