Jungle or Fumble: Smolder Edition

[@BroxahLoL]

What do you think of Smolder so far?

[@gawansiebenhandl6418]

Cute little fire puppy. But that early game jungle clear while trying to get stacks ... uff. That was hard to watch.

[@casualmanticore2758]

AD Veigar

[@mehtabsingh5593]

Smolder with tiamat is good for stacks

[@tobsenflopsen]

BIG DAMAGE

[@SkywardSpork]

​@mehtabsingh5593 my thoughts too, maybe if you can full clear enough gold & first back tiamat into your regular 1st item. Problem is the lack of farm in general means you could be put behind gold. Guess you'd need to be duoing with a gold efficient tank top & be able to grab more farm that way but even still you don't make as much gold pre-20 mins. I think it needs a lot of theory crafting on the efficiency of first back tiamat for ad junglers. The only comparison I have is with DoTA 2 and farm reliant carries that rush battlefury (cleave item in DoTA 2). Problem is, jungle is open typically to those carries to supplement lane farm, which is supported by the mechanics of the game unlike gold rules in LoL.

[@riptos0074]

Still waiting for that Leona Jungle or Fumble!

[@legendaryrat]

I used to play Leona jungle years ago. I would go Iceborn Gauntlet.

[@lucassimonson9082]

I did last season (not seriously) and PTA with a nashors and divine sunderer was some crazy burst

[@107thFruit]

If they let Leona proc her own passive on jungle monsters (similar to the jungle adjustments for Morgana or brand) and made her W damage like 200% to monsters it would be completely viable. I once made a Reddit post about that around the same time they buffed Morgana.

[@kouch_Sax]

You got it mate!

[@DemonsDruid]

This is the one where I participated! I want to apologise for the early game bad plays I did, I don't normally play League PVP, I just play vs Intermediate bots, it's why I picked Thresh as I could lantern people out which is the part I have always been happy to be relatively decent at with my playstyle back when I did do some Ranked games a couple years ago in Bronze... Wildest part to me was that right after the game someone in Twitch chat was extremely surprised to learn I only play vs AI and said I did quite well. Besides all of that, it was a fun game and I must say thank you Mr Broxah for carrying that first game that I was in. :D

[@Dylan-em1zc]

u did v well - def above bronze

[@kogmawmain8872]

33:43 Smolder: *calls Mom* Mom: *appears* Smolder: *dies* Mom: *leaves, doesn't consider revenge*

[@Fanofmusic106]

They fixed the bug!

[@slikugleop]

I vote for Leona Jugle or fumble

[@mario6826]

that Draven pick on jg was a good idea for Jungle or Fumble... oh wait

[@jbzettl427]

Glad see you back at it. Also broxah flexing his dad mucles with saying " I'm really playing with fire now".

[@yepodolopoldo2786]

The thing about this that always upsets me is that he doesn't get invaded during his first clear often. I basically always invade level 3 on Vi, Bel and Viego....all three of which would instakill Smolder at his red and take everything from him for the rest of the game. SO MANY jungler champions can run this play on these Brand, Smolder, Karthus Ekko, etc jungle picks(this is one reason why Elise is/was so good, you cant get anything from invading her) and yet we never see it. Player brain diff.

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

A good jungler is good at 1v1s

[@yepodolopoldo2786]

@Kyle-nm1kh Not on their first clear. All junglers at all ranks will die to me if they're playing a low health jungler that has to full clear. It's literally a free kill most of the time with no chance of real outplay. Especially if it's someone like fiddlesticks who has to do a unique clear path for efficiency. It screws them entirely as champions and player skill can't outplay a 3 level jungle gap.

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

@yepodolopoldo2786 are you a kayn main? He's best champ at punishing those types of people

[@yepodolopoldo2786]

@Kyle-nm1kh listen, it isn't about what kayn can or can't do, or what kayn is or isn't good at. If you invade him during his clear, he dies. Kayn is fairly weak at level 1-5. You can easily kill him on any aggro or burst-heavy jungler. Like, pick Poppy Jungle into Kayn and tell me again you think Kayn is good at fighting her. Lmao. Shits unwinnable.

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

@yepodolopoldo2786 I said kayn is good at punishing those vulnerable early game (usually ap) junglers. Poppy is not on that list. Kayn can clear his raptors really fast, hit level 2 and get his E, then run through walls and find and kill them in an invade with just his Q because it's low cooldown, good mobility, and high damage. After killing them he can steal their camps fast too and easily escape with his E. He is stronger than most levels 1-3 and more than capable of killing enemy junglers who are terrible early game.

[@HamsterPants522]

Here's a trick for Draven jungle if you try it: Draven doesn't get any passive stacks from jungle camps UNLESS he full clears, so try to full clear always if you can.

[@BlackfeatherMain]

he gets stacks from catching his axes though, right?

[@millionchunk]

love you broxah keep it up!

[@rokoblazkolar5749]

Still waiting for Yone jungle or fumble.

[@treymtz]

I started testing 14.10 with him and Absorb Life to prevent any low hp situations. I give it a 5/10 on the off meta scale, since he needs 25 stacks to farm right. If his base damage on Q or his base AD was a tad higher or big monsteds gave more than 1 stack, I could see it being okay.

[@RoeJaz]

the thresh hook at 6:40 though...

[@tbone9474]

Not viable, you get stacks way too slowly. Fun to try though

[@savandoa9498]

He could abuse all the mini void grubs for tons of stacks if he focuses on it though, but that can be done with lane smoulder too

[@ChangeAnimationStudios]

still waiting for that nautilus jg or fumble day 7

[@eyesoreslowcore]

i wanna see ap/tank leona fumble or jungle or some fiora fumble or jungle

[@Bjarkemann]

Time to unbench the kench! Tahm kench jungle next!

[@captainnitwit4967]

Sett jungle or fumble when?

[@duncanblue4744]

10:51 lmao

[@TristanaHub]

BEST JUNGLER WORLD ❤

[@andrefyea2709]

you are the only league tuber i watch u charismatic mofo ggwp

[@ericanderssen2409]

Died like a potato

[@xerodeus2337]

great... now he's going to be in my gold games

[@XTr3m3b4sh]

10:51 welcome to playing an adc

[@Sevarid]

Asol jungle ?

[@sneepur527462]

draven is not stream sniping, no!

[@un_la_dajjaj529]

Please try Caitlyn Jungle.

[@neverwillno5583]

counterpicked by draven smh

[@nartdarym4237]

😂😂😂draven jungle

[@RoyalBLMPotato]

Twice the items on draven and half the dmg lol

[@Foatizenknechtl]

i never felt so old as when broxah said "i am smurfing on this kid" ..... suddently broxah and myself aged like 15 years... fuck man. that hurt.

[@Char12403]

bro what

[@thebobert48]

Nilah Jg??

[@anceh1485]

Next Jungle or Fumble: Yone

[@ryleeevans6211]

ok honestly, that first kill on kaisa, how much did you pay her? you had no flap why would she run up to the alcove? we can say skill/brain issue cuz she hard greeded anyway but you took that kill reaaaaaallllly slow lol

[@HT-jj5sx]

How Broxah isn't the poster boy for League is amazing, so wholesome and crazy good. Nah, we get T1. Okie.

[@Lumbus_123]

I didnt like my own comment

[@alicantasurgan9054]

this champ is so bad as an adc they should make him ap scale mid mage

[@vgamedude12]

he doesnt have enough skill to be mid. Its even easier than annie. They had to design it for adc brains

[@damm118]

Spyro in League. Looks cool but feels weak as an adc.

[@damm118]

@@tobsenflopsen Dude Smolder has a 38% winrate as adc in plat+. Thats weak.

[@doom7607]

@@tobsenflopsenI’ve literally seen multiple adcs like draven and lucian just run him over even under tower champ is def better mid tho

[@vgamedude12]

only because adc are overtuned.