Jade Shadows Full Quest Playthrough | Warframe

[@adamwilkinson4264]

My favourite contribution from this quest is that Hunhow cannonically signs off all of his emails with "I remain: the great and terrible Hunhow"

[@fadeddragon123]

His actions over the past few quests say otherwise lmfao

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

@@fadeddragon123 Well its a title the Orokin gave him for his actions, but we know he isnt just cruel. The Orokin were worse, but thats kinda the greek/roman saying that non greek/roman ppl were barbarians.

[@fadeddragon123]

@@xSoulhunterDKx I’m sure he would maybe help us against Wally if Wally weren’t the void demon. The sentients weakness

[@TehCakeIzALie1]

He sounds so _tired_ when he says it.

[@WraithReaper09]

I went "Okay Grandad" in response.

[@117johnpar]

Everyone collectively "Yes, DE, This does indeed bring up way more questions than answers"

[@stimjaa]

lmfao spot on, cause WTF did i just witness

[@Andrew-ry9be]

I straight up said “That’s it?????”

[@zaviki7819]

I mean, it took me a couple rewatches to get to where I think I get it, but I think I get it.

[@117johnpar]

@@zaviki7819 You understand the implications of Warframes procreating through the context of this mission??

[@zaviki7819]

@@117johnpar The Warframes didn't procreate, they don't have the biological bits to do so, Sorren and Jade had a baby BEFORE they were turned into Warframes. Ballas subjected a pregnant woman to the Helminth strain.

[@VideoKingist]

TLDR: Ballas is an even worse than we thought.

[@SaiKisaragi]

We don’t hate Ballas enough.

[@waterdog737]

well, he got his come-up-ins on the new war quest

[@armaros820]

We should have gotten the chance to kill him again, again

[@TheFlyingslug]

@@waterdog737 'Comeuppance' is the word you're looking for.

[@Eleglas]

@@waterdog737 Not good enough. Resurrect him so me and Stalker can beat him to death over and over again.

[@apsuenbwyfer11]

The absolute funniest thing about this entire update is that no, the stalker isn't going to stop attacking us, so who's going to watch the baby while he's out?? ACOLYTE DAYCARE?

[@SealFormulaMaster]

Misery: Hush little baby, don't say a word. Violence: Papa's going to bring you the head of a Zephyr bird. Torment: And if that head doesn't sing. Malice: Papa's going to bring you Ivara's bowstring. Angst: And if that bowstring has no spring. Mania: Papa's going to bring you a diamond pulled from Citrine.

[@vasRayya]

i think the only reason why he keeps attacking is because if you didn't have all his drops before you did this quest then you'd be locked out of them for good more of a gameplay thing, less of a canon thing

[@illitaret8780]

@@vasRayyathey could add them to a stalker themed vendor

[@DropTheGate]

Wait, hold on, I just realized, Stalker has the Primed Auto Breach people been wanting.

[@fadeddragon123]

He will not return to his lair. But he will probably be back.. eventually. This did not wrap up his story. This did answer questions other than his name. You’re 100% right about the time skip though. This sets it up, this sets up a story where stalker protects the origin system. A universe where stalker calms down a bit and we meet his son in the future.

[@Kyprgn]

Kinda fucked that we get to pilot Stalkers dead pregnant wife tbh

[@lozmaster6441]

And the fact that the frame we craft is STILL pregnant? Holy crap that must be exhausting

[@nbassasin8092]

even more fucked is the fact that he might come and try to kill her randomly

[@TopDawgDre]

​@@nbassasin8092 i tested that theory... he'll leave

[@nbassasin8092]

@@TopDawgDre seriously? you arent joking? because if so, I love when devs put little details like that, thats so cool

[@zaviki7819]

​@@nbassasin8092yeah he even has a voiceline for when it happen, he will say "never..." and leave his drops.

[@SlideStep_]

Stalker killed that equinox prime trying to stealth level weapons up

[@Alex_Gol]

lmao

[@galappy]

bruh I had to do a double take. I thought you were me.

[@nbassasin8092]

goated comment

[@windowofpane]

Equinox used to be my favorite frame back in like 2019-2020 Equinox needs a buff so bad it’s not even funny

[@Sanyunya]

Being there live for this was hilarious. He spent like 2 hours going thru the patch notes then went into this after most of chat had finished it already. Chat was in emote only mode so only mods could actually speak full sentences. The best part though was chat's collective reactions to what Brozime said during the big reveal and at the end when he started to question why he exists in this current reality.

[@Insomniac434]

You really went through the entire spy mission without realizing you could have pressed 3 and been invisible to the lasers.

[@Brozime]

tbh I'm not used to using anything but parkour or Titania to go through spy vaults

[@excme22]

Wait stalker 3 is supposed to do that? I legit thought it was bugged. That and the auto breach of the consoles

[@arcane1012]

Ok there's no way the auto breach wasn't intentional because I'm almost positive I have that off of my parazon but I had no idea bout the 3, I was only aware of ivara ignoring lazers

[@Kasandra_]

As an added bonus, his 4 is a great way to deal with the juggernaut

[@nbassasin8092]

I mean its just a spy mission, for anyone who took 5 minutes when they were beginner those are the easiest missions in the game

[@KingTigerGuy]

>Is voiced by Gianni >Says like 12? 15 words? >Canonically Fucks. >Refuses to elaborate Is this going to be the Gianni effect?

[@Morrow16]

God damn, I'm screenshotting this. It goes hard xD

[@84m30]

“Canonically Fucks” has the be the single funniest bullet point ever written

[@artemisfowldragon]

I think I have an idea for why Xeto let stalker leave: Granum’s philosophy is one of avoiding stagnation. He’s seen the corpus stagnate under the rule of his petty bastards and their boards. Of course, he’s a hypocrite, given that he stayed outside of time, stagnating for a long while, but his philosophy? I’d hazard that’s drilled into sister candidates, so when she sees Stalker with this child, what she sees is a potential for things to change. A dramatic shift in the pradigm, which, if she hands it over, will go wasted. Nothing will change. So she takes her opportunity, and holds off the stagnation by ways of the opportunity presented by this child. Or something, i dont know, I’m vaguely drunk and philosophising in my head

[@lozmaster6441]

Honestly, I kind of thought she wanted to be a mother or wag unable to conceive for some reason, so when she heard the baby cry she went "Oh shit, can't let it die/ go to the corpus, all we'll do is run tests and make its life miserable"

[@artemisfowldragon]

@@lozmaster6441 definitely an option as well! I just hope she comes back at some point

[@Eclantro]

I also think that its more that the corpus under Parvos Granum (who was basically an agrarian slave under the Orokin at birth) just doesn't do slavery. They would absolutely do as they please if it was a piece of tech or exploitable resource, but once Xeto knew it was a child and alive she knew it would not be favored in her faction to continue.

[@TreyThomas-uw6hk]

The reach the surface cutscene is like the movie "children of men" when everyone stop shooting their guns when they heard a baby cry for the first time in years

[@se7enhaender]

It works in children of men for that very plot reason. Everyone thought humanity to be sterile. So it sorta works here as well, at least with the knowledge the player has, but at the same time, why would the Corpus suddenly not want this very special baby, given they wanted it, whatever it was, 5 minutes earlier. Sure, it's a shock, but you'd still want it.. Parvos would want it... right? Edit: basically, what I'm trying to say is, unlike with children of men, Stalker's baby _doesn't_ represent a future for mankind that was thought to be non-existent.

[@TreyThomas-uw6hk]

@@se7enhaender that a good point because warframe don't talk about sexual or asexual situations because the grineers are basically clones of a original person

[@TehCakeIzALie1]

@@se7enhaender I mean, the corpus grunts very much _did_ keep firing. It was Xeto who made the call to stop shooting, a moment of characterization meant to humanize her (enforced by the fact that we see her face). Like with Kahl and Veso in The New War, it's a fun little reminder that we've essentially been murdering regular people with thoughts and emotions this whole time.

[@se7enhaender]

@@TehCakeIzALie1 Sure, yeah, I've attributed it her (motherly) instincts and leadership role in the moment.

[@Morrow16]

Honestly I see it as the difference between usual Corpus we know and Parvos' new founded Corpus. Nef Anyo would throw everything he has to posses this child, even while fully knowing that is a child. Alad probably would do that too. Parvos' forces however does not battle for pure greed no matter the circumstances. They do that for profit and original Granum's ideas, and therefore I think has some boundaries in oppose to what usual Corpus grew to be. Granum just knows what kind of people he wants under his golden hand and achieving it successfully.

[@nyb2725]

They def pulled from children of men in the cease firing voice line

[@sleihbeggey1992]

Glad to see we could wrap up the Hunhow being a surrogate father for Stalker arc.

[@x-ray_apha_delta-9403]

Now he's going to be a grandfather 💀

[@WraithReaper09]

@@x-ray_apha_delta-9403 Hunhow already is a Grandfather. The Tenno are his Daughter's chosen children after all.

[@darkmega24ify]

​@@WraithReaper09 Oh boi... That means we're Sirius'/Orion's cousin LMAO

[@youraveragechroma2139]

I’m in both states of “what the hell is going on?” and “peak fiction” at the same time.

[@chaosgyro]

I went with Sirius. Orion is a hunter, but that's Stalker's gig not his son's. Sirius is the hunter's companion, plus the alliteration of Sorren and Sirius works for me.

[@MasckedUp]

I didnt think about it that deep😅 i picked orion bc its my favorite constellation

[@An_Amazing_Login5036]

What really laid me out flat I had to take 10 minutes giggling hysterically was the name of the first mission being ”Anything But That” 😂😂😂

[@alternate3787]

I was a bit flabbergasted that the quest was a regular spy mission, but with FOUR vaults plus commentary from space grandma. The story bits are very intriguing though, plus the dialoge snippets between Ordis and Parvos. They flung around a lot of detailed information about the Pre-Fall era and I cant wait to see where we are headed next

[@Green_Guy]

Fever dream of a quest and I don't mean that in a bad way lmao.

[@Goodheartless]

21:08 said moments before he realized lmfao

[@Doomhauser]

Ok, he has a Parazon. So he IS definitely a Warframe.

[@seafighter4]

He probably is similar to Umbra.

[@rileyhogan8919]

since you could hack every console instantly, i think it could be a stronger variant

[@nbassasin8092]

He is probably some amalgamation of warframe and tenno, not being able to ever leave the warframe he is in, some experiment of Orokin gone wrong, and thats why he hates Warframes with passion

[@jackkiller0008]

He is the first gen of warframe, orokin soldiers transform in to a warframe. That is why ballas is a sick, he transform a pregnant woman in to a warframe.

[@Reader999]

Umbra was created at the end of the Sentient War. Stalker was definitely created during the first stage of the Sentients arrival. Basically 1st gen warframe including the Primes. And was brainwashed or mindwiped cuz the quest confirm that he really did forgotten who he was and purpose. We know Jade was used as a means of execution based on her entry, this quest, and the gamemode of the Jade light. If you go back to Lotus talking how the Stalker went mad in the Second Dream was probably when his REAL memories appeared and finding out wtf he was after being partially mindwiped or brainwashed. And then when Jade saved him, his memories of who he was originally aside from just a low guardian that served the orokin... he was in a relationship with Jade.

[@khirnera]

Like Zime pointed out, Hunhow has been less and less bad lately. From his actions and dialogue, such as "the great and terrible hunhow" said so laboriously, it almost feels like despite not wanting to admit it, he feels deep regret and he's trying to repent in his own way. He doesnt call himself the "terrible hunhow" like a warlord would (though perhaps that is intent), he says it in a way that's incredibly genuine. He has been a conqueror and force to be reckoned with, carving a place out in the universe for his people, but having to face the reality of what he did, and his children, and what they faced and the decisions they made, he's been forced to reflect on the terror he's wrought

[@SmoochyRoo]

She basically confirms that long ago theory about a pregnant warframe coming to the game 😭

[@mas8705]

Does seem like a very fasinating quest and the implications that could come from this. Going off the guess of "the baby will be grown up after we return from 1999 because time travel shenanigans," I have one of two guesses: The first seems the most likely which is "The baby grows up and becomes a new syndicate leader" of sorts. A new faction that they are in control of, but to what extent would definitely be taking wild guesses. Otherwise the grown up baby could just be another story critical character, but they definitely would likely do more with the baby than just "this is why Stalker does this now" and that's it. There are some big implications from this, but hard to say what the full extent will be, but it will make the events of 1999 even more closely watched (especially when we wrap up the quest). The other guess that is so out of left field that I doubt it will actually happen would be... The Stalker was carrying the next playable warframe. The idea of us naming a future Warframe and how the same warframe could have two different names depending on the choice you made here (And could serve as our "Playable Stalker Warframe that isn't Stalker" or a "Stalker Lite"). I doubt there would be anymore significance beyond that like "the same warframe but two different movesets depending on the choice made" but it would be interesting to consider if perhaps this warframe could have some of Stalker's moves while also a bit of Jade's (or a variation) so that you have a hybrid of sorts. That could be fascinating to see play out in the future, but like I said, out of left field guess and doubtful it would actually happen. Either way, Tennocon is going to be interesting to watch unfold if this is our quest before we get more details on Warframe 1999.

[@leviklopfenstein8158]

Very strange quest, I like the story it told but I'm kinda mad that we learned almost NOTHING about the stalker's actual origins. Like we know his name now, but is he like Umbra, more like Harrow, where he has a permanently linked operator, or is he just a normal warframe? What is going on?!? We learned none of these actually important questions. But still, I liked the story.

[@streakgaming6106]

Given what we seen they never got a link. We know all warframes were semi sentient at some point and the tenno helped ease them and calm them, both sorren and jade had their memories and could talk, something not even umbra could do. Tho umbra had a link in the past and was probably purposely fucked up. They are just victims turned into frames. No operators to ease their pain or dull their burning memories.

[@thefunborgpl]

"we learned almost NOTHING about the stalker's actual origins" but we did? he had a child with jade pre warframified wich was forbiden by orokin because orokin, then punished by turning them both (three?) into everyone's favorite meatpuppets. During the fall of orokin empire stalker got attacked by tenno before being saved by jade which probably got her injured so probably that's were the grudge comes from (if poorly explained)

[@aaroncohen2700]

@@thefunborgplwhy’d he get attacked by Tenno though?

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

Before this quest the most likely option was that he was a human who transferenced himself into a warframe, but it seems they might have actually changed it to Sorren being turned directly into a warframe.

[@johndiddilyjoe6258]

The point of the quest is to give you a hook and open up more questions that will be explored later. Straight up says after you finish the quest that we now have answers and even more questions. What did you expect from warframe? It keeps it interesting.

[@colossaldonut5190]

This is what happens when you let the narrative team cook a little too much but honestly I’m here for it even if it is weird.

[@zaviki7819]

It feels like what happens when you think TOO HARD about a story your writing and don't get enough time to reflect on what you have actually written.

[@cavemanpretzel9520]

​@@zaviki7819Nah dad stalker is based af

[@michaelalvarez8112]

Bro they didn’t just cook, they burned the pot. This quest sucked and they really dropped the ball

[@Reader999]

Becuz it was short and left with more questions than answers. Already expected it this much. Still was good for what it is. And not saying that I wanted more.

[@matowakan]

@@michaelalvarez8112 you suuck and have not only dropped the last ball but have destroyed it in the process

[@jamsbat1159]

I hope that since Equinox Prime is the only prime warframe head that is on a stick that is in the stalkers lair is a nod or teaser that they are finally going to rework equinox's ancient kit.

[@Quarterspine143]

This quest, though bare-bones, struck a personal cord with me. As I am now a single dad who has to fight (in a legal sense, I'd LOVE to use the Scythe to handle this but that's frowned upon) for my own daughter, it hit home for me. Also, I went with Sirius because ever since the voice actor for the Animated Batman died and Heath's been gone I'm gonna make as many DC references before all the originals drop.

[@devendralatchman5724]

If you build a second Jade to feed to the Helminth, is that pro-choice or pro-life?

[@fleetingtwilight9718]

ouch! my left cranium ach reading your comment... jesus christ

[@Reader999]

Pro Choice. But don't worry, we still bring her back as our waifu. Poor Stalker tho. Single father problems.

[@matowakan]

technically she already gave birth, she was warframed while pregnant, so it makes sense that her blueprint has a large belly even though there is no baby

[@reginadea2821]

The starting cutscene doesn't change. I picked Mag, still had Excal. Also yeah, Stalker's 3 is Ivara's Infiltrate on crack. It lets you walk through the lasers in that spy mission.

[@Slai47]

Music: A Tier Story: D Tier (Should have been longer, hard hitting but too short) Questions: Many

[@Emerald2508]

Honestly I can’t hold it in anymore. What’s not to understand. Sorren and jade were orokin jade got pregnant then both got turned into a warframes with jade still being pregnant and because made of infestation the baby killed jade through childbirth and stalker is a single dad and his trauma is losing his wife and he hates Tenno because the Tenno rebelled during the old war and attacking the orokin including sorrens pregnant wife because of how the Tenno were treated by the orokin the best short quest in warframe in my opinion and also the time travel going wrong in 1999 and coming back in the future of when we left is a great theory ❤

[@ayushdeshmukh284]

Sorren and Jade were not Orokin elites, so they would not have been targeted by the Tenn during the rebellion. Stalker disliked the Tenno even before the rebellion though, and that resentment might perhaps be connected to Jade being a Warframe used by Tenno.

[@matowakan]

helminth is like: man they didn't design me to allow warframes to reproduce

[@MadeUpNoun]

@@ayushdeshmukh284 they were likely among the first to be warframed, before the Tenno came into the picture. also 1:00 its very clear the reason Stalker hates the tenno is because Jade protected him from a Tenno and in doing so took the mortal hit that left here in that state. he hates the Tenno because one of us mortally wounded her

[@dakotafisher1566]

I just know wally is going to come for that baby and the lotus is going to have to protect stalker when we are in 1999. lets not forget wally is a god and can likely deal with us and attack stalker at the same time.

[@kingjaven13]

I'm mad seriously, jade and stalker definitely deserve better , we learned nothing about either of them. DE can't leave it like this, Jade didn't have to die I'm definitely not happy with that

[@Reader999]

It's implied that we rebuild her "lorewise". Just like how we rebuild Umbra.

[@zaccanasta-r3l]

The scene with the corpus and the baby is very similar to a scene of the movie Children of men.

[@DriskotTheDense]

I nearly wept at the sight of a content creator that can actually do spy missions

[@securatyyy]

I wonder if the most chosen name will later become the name of a warframe that gets released.

[@AetherialMoonFlower]

I wanna believe in my heart of hearts that they made this quest and Jade just to fuck with us cuz of that one question from their dev stream "can warframes get pregnant? asking for a friend" hence why the story is so far away from the whole Albrecht/man on the wall thing

[@SadGhost123]

PSA Stalkers invis (3) has built in infiltrate

[@Luxserina]

I can't believe it, corpus has still abit of good in them

[@aphermion]

Warframe in a nutshell: It's so weird. I love it.

[@GothremenBhason]

Poor Jade, Stalker, and also I feel pity for The Great and Terrible Hunhow (genuinely)

[@laxxboy20]

inb4 Next Warframe is named either Sirius or Orion, depending on most chosen in the quest.

[@59slayer]

Funny enough when you’re invisible with stalking on the first mission he phases through all lasers. You can’t be caught at all

[@davidspence1561]

“I was content to watch the world burn until I had to protect someone who would have to live in it.”

[@P6ho6]

Now that I think about it... Does this mean that we will 2 warframes? Orion and Sirius And depending on which you chose during this quest, you'll probably build/mature the baby in another future quest (essentially getting the one you chose for FREE?)

[@INeed94Cents]

6:57 i said the exact SAME THING brothah

[@Feynt]

Your spy mission and my spy mission were very different. No one died unless they were actually in the way, and I didn't get detected at all, which made the "There, on camera five, what is that?" part very confusing to me. Also your C was baby mode. The final hallway for me was all lasers, floor to/and ceiling, with overlapping laser walls going up and down. @.@ I don't agree with the QTE around 22:10, but whatever. ------- Spoilers (if you're reading comments before watching this video, wtf is wrong with you, go watch the video!) ------- Technically, with this reveal, that means my clan (Stalkers Anonymous, very old clan) is actually a bunch of uncles. >D Pregnant warframes: There's a heavy implication that Sorren and Jade were together before becoming warframes. It is confirmed that a bunch of people were invested into warframes, similar to how a bunch of people were converted into cephalons, and bound to a singular purpose. Voruna for example was bound to a warframe to act as a warden to keep people from interrupting the Continuity rituals that allowed the Orokin to transfer themselves from an ailing body to a new host. Dagath likewise was invested into a warframe to act as a Dax for some rich people who eventually didn't like her face and carved a hole through her head. My guess is that Jade and Sorren were in a taboo relationship, Jade got pregnant, and when their Orokin masters heard about this illicit affair, they were transferred into warframes to enact a purpose. Jade remained Jade and became a matronly angelic figure representing life (1 is a heal zone, 2 is a buff aura, 3 is a literal revive), while Sorren became the Stalker, a figure of death that strikes fear in others by killing those who attempt to break the order of the system and its masters. It's implied that Ballas is responsible for this warframe nonsense. We know he was an asshole. It's entirely possible that he did this conversion specifically knowing that Jade was pregnant on the chance that the pregnancy would carry over to the warframe, but more likely he did it to spite the two and ruin her pregnancy. Now, Stalker has lost Jade, gained a child (after centuries? How long has it been since the fall of the Orokin? Longest pregnancy ever though), and is left to wander the system to keep his son safe. I fully expect us to be helping him in the future. Sorren's hatred for us probably stems from his and Jade's eternal imprisonment within their new bodies, bound to a singular purpose. Without the Tenno resurfacing and the warframe project by Ballas, there wouldn't be warframes to be imprisoned in. But we might come to an understanding at some point as fatherhood mellows him out a bit.

[@MadeUpNoun]

1:00 they make it very clear the reason Stalker hates the Tenno is because we tried to kill him, but Jade came in to defend him and in turn taking mortal wounds. Stalker hates the Tenno because it was one of us who hurt Jade. also about the pregnancy, the player specifically says she isn't fighting what ever it is thats draining her energy, its possible that for all this time she had fought feeding the baby energy, again possibly part of the Orokin's sick ploy to punish them, lose the baby or lose the mother. but eventually Jade decided that it was time to let go

[@Feynt]

@@MadeUpNoun The only thing the intro confirms is that an Excal got the better of the Stalker in a fight and Jade stepped in to protect him. That may have been THE Excal way back when, or it may have been a recent one and Jade appearing for that intervention is the cause of her situation at the beginning of the quest. I'm more inclined to believe the latter because it's kind of the only way she could have made it so long without the Stalker knowing how to help her. If this was a consistent issue since the fall of the Orokin, I can't see her surviving that long. But what drove the Stalker to attack us in the first place is still uncertain. Again, I feel it's the stigma of the warframes (piloted by creepy void touched kids) combined with them being yet another prison of personality like being converted into a cephalon. The implications of each warframe's story is that their progenitor had some unique personality and was punished somehow, or their punishment was never mentioned but they lived as subservient members of a caste with a dedicated purpose. Jade and Sorren being together, then invested into warframes just makes the most sense to me for why he hates the Tenno. He hates us, because he hates himself for what he and Jade had become, and that wouldn't have been possible without someone making the warframes in the first place to accommodate our space magic.

[@xItsDeadShot]

“DE didn’t give me Jade” ,You have all the parts tho? 🤔

[@abdullahyahya6423]

are we picking the name for the next warframe or the 60th frame or maybe a new generation of warframe and we just picked their name?

[@Blazer_491]

1:20 I chose Volt for my account and Excal still showed up

[@XLeon_S_KennedyX]

I do not think the baby is a full warframe. Remember Jade was pregnant as a human before being infected and turned into a warframe. So the baby is a complete something new. A hybrid of human/infected/warframe all in one.

[@maskettaman1488]

How do you know when she got pregnant?

[@alexeisemenovikh101]

​@@maskettaman1488 its in the story

[@XLeon_S_KennedyX]

@@maskettaman1488 had you not play the game??

[@maskettaman1488]

@@alexeisemenovikh101 It's not though. The exact time she was warframed and whether or not she was pregnant at the time wasn't established. I'm not saying that isn't the most likely answer but we don't have anything all that firm to base it on

[@TERPormf]

@@maskettaman1488 Did you forget the dialogue at the end where Jade tells Sorren that he’s going to be a father? 28:33

[@UmbraFulgur]

It's not that complicated. It's actually quite clear . Soren and Jade had a relationships without asking permission to Orokin, she get pregnant, they finds out and punished both making them warframes, she still being pregnant. Hence the baby. You have to love the Orokin. Torturing an unborn child is the next level of cruelty and horror.

[@cecilrhodes2153]

I’m gonna say it. This quest wasn’t very good. I mean, it’s a neat idea and all, but I refuse to believe that I don’t have some method of easily healing Jade, I have unlimited healing, energy, resources, overflowing void powers, and the Helminth infirmary (specifically designed for something like this). Also, the bit at the end is absurd. Why try to walk straight towards the gun instead of taking advantage of the ABUNDANT cover to either side while tossing Despair over in their general direction? Additionally, there is no way the sound of a baby would convince a corpus unit to stop firing. Even beyond that, there is no way they would allow the Tenno slayer and the unknown life form to escape.

[@ishiblack7497]

33:44 Have feeling like Warframe 1999 is not typical Time Travel but alternate dimension where events similar to Origin System events, happends but on past Earth. And instead warframes, we have using void powers, super agents. Its much more like Marvel Noir Series.

[@toagradius8856]

A lot of people are saying the ending is their favorite part, but some things about it are so silly to me. The Corpus are characterized as being cartoonishly over the top evil, especially in Fortuna. I don’t really find it believable they’d suddenly grow a conscious and let a possible science experiment walk off scott-free like that. Not to mention how it’s even possible they parked a capital ship on the surface of a Grineer-controlled planet, but that’s more of a nitpick, admittedly.

[@scottcheng2365]

I think that planet is not grineer controlled if hunhow/stalker based there and its often shown the factions don't often openly engage hostilities without a good reason. The corpus are characterised as being cartoonishly greedy more than evil, if they can get profit, they'll take it. In this case perhaps the very fact there was a live newborn in this world.

[@colossaldonut5190]

Yeah I think it’s supposed to show some human element to the Sisters of Parvos but it felt very out of left field for an NPC that we had no reason to believe even had a conscious.

[@mythgravenn]

tbf the corpus in Venus/ the Fortuna storyline were Nef Anyo's, not Parvos'

[@icesharkk6399]

i got lit up on reddit for daring to hold this opinion. agree with you

[@WolfHeroEX]

Remember that the operation was being led by a woman swayed by Parvos Granam, the most realistically culty cult man in all of Warframe (Ballas simply wore the cult robe and dominated everyone through force, I don't count him). Dude tries his best to feel like a warm hug on a Friday afternoon, and he didn't even need to but he did because that's just who he is. He's sympathetic, reasonable and dedicated to eradicating the corruption from within the corpus. ... And people believe that, including Xeto. Even though he's none of what I just said, she's directly aligned with him and his carefully constructed philosophies, so I can imagine that like many people are when they're swayed into a cult, she's a much more reasonable person than the normal corpus fare. She's an actual example of the mindset that Parvos is peddling towards. She probably wasn't anyone of power until he came back.

[@the_greater-war9025]

I was not ready for this quest.

[@MythicalWatcher]

The general plot points of the quest were interesting. But the pacing completely ruined any impact it could've had other than a big "wtf" The things we learned about the stalker were really light snd immediately overshadowed by the "wtf". The ascension mission itself is giving more interesting lore than the quest itself, which is a shame

[@eelepage]

Wrapping up threads? There's even more threads now. Let's start with Pazuul/Tau System and work forwards. Lol Not sure if time travel matters here since this (technically) takes place right after New War(?)

[@dragconen]

One of the things to note that while stalker can just pop up in our house he probably knows he can't kill us at this point like he will continue to be a dick and mess with us on missions but getting rid of us permanently is not something Stalker or Hunhow have really figured out.

[@rudycastillo4150]

😢 Semi cannonade mods don't work on certain weapons with semi like pandero😢

[@Blooddroonkhoonte]

So thisquest was basically "God of frame white dwarf"

[@permeus2nd]

1:28 so excal showed for me and my starter was Loki (kinda dates my account😅)

[@stefanmalina5662]

Yeah that quest made no sense what so ever. The pregnancy was a secret, yet she has her stomach fashioned to account for it with a glass view to boot?, Warframes are infested humans that got their exterior appearance later by Orokin yet the baby doesn't look like a infested zombie rather fully "fashioned"., multiple universes colliding makes zero impact here coz this had nothing to do with the void nor is there any implication of it., how does pretty much ANY corpus aside from Alad know in detail what someone needs to "play doctor" to a Warframe especially some random captain?, why would the cult worshipping money or anyone in it (aside for maybe Parvos himself or a sister) NOT take in stalker and jade baby to study and rip and strip for parts? I do agree this quest raised some new questions, mainly to the story writers, mainly: "Are you high?" Anyway, a spy mission and a reused boss fight with a contraction minigame at the end a good quest is not. Edit: How come jade is alive and aware and her death is a concern while being a Warframe? This implies she has memories or an Operator neither of which would be destroyed by Warframe childbirth disintegrating her coz look what happened when Ballas tried to destroy a Warframe with memories. Yeah, we just re-made him and he still retains his memories, so aside from bad writing, why can't we do the same for jade?

[@antoineflemming1]

You're supposed to call this story a masterpiece because that's what the Warframe cult wants. They act like North Koreans, praising everything simply because it's what they're supposed to do. The story was trash. Could've been good had DE wanted to tell a deep story that actually focused on Sorren and Jade and actually dealt with their relationship, their coming child, the Orokin reaction, how they became Warframes, and why Stalker was still loyal and hated the Tenno. But DE is simple-minded and surface-level in their storytelling. They're mediocre storytellers, just like their core gameplay is mediocre (not because of what it offers, but because of the level of quality of the core gameplay).

[@vixaris]

Do you think they considered for a moment the implications of taking over jade as operator if she's umbra like.. much less during her contractions..

[@jasonblack2760]

I think DE dropped all pretenses to consistency when Valkyrie, basically a corpus attempt at a warframe, was primed lmao. The whole point was that she was a conglomerate/ frankstein warframe as opposed to one made by the orokin.

[@hexipo2352]

Came here for the theories at the end lol. What a quest

[@permeus2nd]

What dose a warframe baby eat? Dose it need to eat? How long dose it take to grow up? Can it grow up or is it going to stay that size forever? And these are just some of the questions also really sorren?

[@iblank22]

At the moment they add Stalker as a warframe we can craft, the pink Stalker army will arise

[@depressedasfook2893]

*spoiler* My head canon is stalker and angel where couple. She was pregnant. They both got warframed. Stalker then watched us destroy the Orokin so he hunted us (maybe to get something from us to keep jade alive?) but now that jades dead he can single dad it?

[@DropTheGate]

You know, I didn't even read that prompt, actually reading it on the other hand...

[@marcmichaud1643]

I do think eventually Stalker will be fully unlocked. Next year is a another milestone year for Warframe: 10 Year anniversary for Second Dream. My feeling is they may save that for then.

[@SinfireTitan]

We focus on Wally, Stalker goes after Parvos/Worm Queen/Pazuul?

[@bluebattlehawk]

I don't think he used a single Stalker ability the whole time lmao - I could be wrong and I could have missed it.

[@darrylferguson3622]

It is going to be real awkward for the Operator, since they just found out Stalker could have offes them at anytime but just chose to hunt our warframes

[@SUSeARC]

He shows up to ask the player character for help, Player character says yes, never see them again.

[@FauxDwarrow]

Ahh, I remember when the timer only had five days on it

[@S0M3GUY778]

How is pragent formed?

[@eduardoc439]

I think that was our war within. Maybe the next arc we are dealing with (in 3/4 years) is the infestation. And we will get crumbles of Stalker between patches

[@andycampbell8622]

NOTE: stalker’s invis goes through laser barriers

[@bababoie6886]

Salker voiced by Pedro Pascal and Orion/Sirius voiced by Grogu aka BABY YODA

[@Nul1fy]

I love that a way before we knew about jade we had a question "can warframes get pregnant" ... well, yeah

[@DerdOn0ner]

So, if we play Jade, does that mean Stalker is our hubby now? 😂

[@ishiblack7497]

If you play Jade and got Death Mark, Stalker or Shadow Stalker will retreat and drop loot instead attacking you

[@2thre3]

Stalker has left Hunhow. He hasn't tried killing me since... Maybe I've just been "Lucky". It'd be nice to think we won't see him (properly) until the child is grown. The child is essentially the perfect Warframe, it was born a Warframe not made. I think we also had another Xaku pick your theme situation without realising. I went with Orion too.

[@ruifaria8871]

nah, he still shows up in missions to kill you, but now he's green

[@NuchiAsaki]

@@ruifaria8871 He won't try to kill you if you're using Jade.

[@laubowiebass]

So the 3rd keeps u invisible. If you die fighting the Juggernaut, how far do you go back ? Restart the same boss ?

[@matowakan]

you respawn

[@Gaphid]

The question is do warframes grow old or only the baby

[@anonforuz]

two executioners produced life.

[@gabrielfowler4963]

Crazy they had this quest and the one right after is a dating sim

[@laubowiebass]

Can I pause this quest ?

[@guysome7469]

what happen when u get pergenat

[@djupstaten2328]

space dad

[@se7enhaender]

How about somehow we end up taking the baby back to 1999, but through other time travelling shenanigans we lose it some time between now and then. Later it turns out that we were the baby all along and stalker is actually our dad. The operator is either Sirius or Orion, depending on your choice, and the drifter was named whichever name you didn't choose. And that's also why we are "more special" than other Tenno.

[@depressedasfook2893]

Shiiiii wow could be?

[@depressedasfook2893]

Two head canons: 1 we get stuck in time stalker defends origin system. We come back late. 2 we take baby back in time loose baby find out we are baby we are orian and drifter is other name.

[@VetriVade]

I dont understand how the tenno immediately knew where to go for the thing they needed I get that he can non-verbal communicate with stalker to find out what's going on but I don't understand why it wasn't ordis who was like "oh we gotta go here for that" The writing was kinda meh

[@DarkStar-z5z]

Caught lacking on my own ship with 40 frames that would whoop stalker ass....dam

[@reza494]

Took you too long to finally 't even think of using Stalker's ability. lol The first think I did with when I saw I'm in a spy mission with Stalker was to go invisible.

[@LoriLovi]

Look, I just gotta be 100% here. Why did DE choose the operater to do transference here and not the drifter? There's something that just makes me feel very uncomfortable about having the motions of child birth be felt by the variant of my character who themself is also still a child. The entire quest otherwise would be completely perfect and I love it, but this one thing I keep getting hung up on because it makes no sense... It's either the worst oversight in history, or I'm gonna have plenty more questions for the writers...

[@SealFormulaMaster]

If we're going to believe that somehow Stalker and Jade created a child... I want Hildryn and Rhino to conceive as well. Maybe Khora and Oberon too. Trinity and Oberon? Cult of the Lamb introduced a sex update, let's see if DE does it too. Instead of Helminth, we get Bedroom. Please don't DE... Do we really need to balloon from 57 Warframes to a few thousand in a single update? Dear lord, please no. I don't think my wallet can handle the amount of Forma, Potato, Exilus, Booster, and such I'd need to make a build for everyone.

[@electricisnthereatthemomen6535]

warframes themselves can’t get pregnant, but when being turned into one under the helminth strain, the woman and child DO unfortunately together become the Warframe, In Jade’s case she was the original jade that was Sorren’s wife, so she had an actual living baby inside of her that she sacrificed her life for When we build jade it’s more like a… synthetic replication of the baby

[@johncarver357]

im guessing the reason why the stalker hates the tenno is because they robbed him of the chance to topple the Orokin for himself because besides that retcon from loyal guard to vengeful daddy, i have no idea how to explain why he'd hate the Tenno instead of the people who turned his pregnant wife and the child inside of her into Warframes

[@MadeUpNoun]

1:00 tenno hurt his wife

[@UnusualDeathCause]

Character wich we know nothign about gets a redemption arc. Ok, can we now know why the fuck was he evil in the first place cause I kinda dont give a fuck about him tbh :|

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

Stalker doesnt get a redemption arc, he hunted us down for the Orokin downfall, he was loyal to them.

[@goldendoomslayer6301]

​@@wolfofwarframe3807he doesnt have one but it does set one up for him.

[@vixaris]

It makes a lot of sense for him to be super loyal like that to them after they converted him and his wife like that.. /s

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

@@vixaris I still doubt Sorren was turned into a Warframe, it doesnt fit Stalker at all. And even if they did turn him, it makes no sense for him to follow Orokin Empire, so it falls apart.

[@vixaris]

@@wolfofwarframe3807 kind of my point. Second dream inferred he's a tenno himself. This infers he's an umbra like without a transference bolt, perhaps a prototype since he wasn't mind wiped. That alone should wreck orokin loyalty before adding jade at all

[@deejayf69]

Context: Green more gooder name.

[@darkmega24ify]

When a Daddy Warframe and a Mommy Warframe **LOVE** each other very much--