BRT - the future of urban transportation

[@federico83bg]

I've been to Granada Spain and they have an excellent BRT and a light metro. The city is not congested at all. Probably one of the best examples of good implementation in mid size cities

[@felipewozniak]

Granada is half the population of Curitiba. If the city does not grow, it will work fine. But from a certain point, BRTs are useless. Trust me, I have lived in Curitiba (the "model" city they mention on the video) my whole life (now I´m living in Lisbon) and I assure you that nothing else compares to a light rail or metro system.

[@CraigFThompson]

@@felipewozniak Phil (if I might be taking a little liberty on translation here), I'll say, for one, that I couldn't agree with you any more!

[@eirugsiongriffiths8563]

We had a BRT system in Swansea South Wales UK. We now have had to do away with it due to the huge cost of refurbishing the buses. Swansea is now looking into having an eco tram system. BRT"s don't work for every city

[@ph11p3540]

This will never replace a high capacity metro or well designed subway. It will make a nice medium capacity feeder working between buses and subway. A lot of cities struggle with long articulated buses now because they are forced to share the road with other road users who often cut them off or simply hold them up. The secret is a dedicated and partitioned off road for the BRT.

[@bararichter1732]

Agreed. And that dedicated right-of-way almost always gets horse-traded away in western countries. This phenomenon actually has a name: BRT Creep. Googling the term comes up with some great reasons why rail is almost always a smarter way to go for anything other than the tiniest systems.

[@MrvelvetviruS]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGO9i4iMYtN-sKs terrible experience in Bogota, Colombia. BRT its shit. Metro and underground are IRREPLEACEABLE

[@LMTRRVZTW]

That happens in Bogota, exclusive routes designed for BRT

[@davidledeboer7870]

BRT works in certain situations, but the capacity numbers you see in videos like this are not realistic at all. To calculate capacity, we need the number of passengers per vehicle and the number of vehicles per hour. A 60 foot (18 m) bus can hold up to 120 people depending on what seating is used. This is the maximum length allowed in most American cities. A 90 foot (28 m) bus will hold about 200. BRT advocates say you can get 300 in a vehicle but this would be an extremely crowded condition. A bus line running in mixed traffic will be limited by congestion and will max out at 6-8 buses per hour. Dedicated lanes are better but the level crossings will limit the line to about 15 buses per hour. If the line were fully segregated, it would be possible to run 30 buses per hour, maybe more if the stations can handle more than one bus at a time (But also a lot of the cost-savings for BRT disappear if you have to construct completely new infrastructure for the line) So we have these capacities using 60 foot vehicles: Mixed traffic -- 120 x 8 = 960 pass/hour Dedicated lanes -- 120 x 15 = 1800 pass/hour Segregated Busway -- 120 x 30 = 3600 pass/hour And for 90 foot vehicles: Mixed traffic -- 200 x 8 = 1600 pass/hour Dedicated lanes -- 200 x 15 = 3000 pass/hour Segregated Busway -- 200 x 30 = 6000 pass/hour With numbers like these, BRT can work in a smaller sized city, or it could be used as a supplement to a higher capacity system. But if you really need high capacity BRT is not going to be a good choice. You will never get close to 40 000 pass/hour. The Bogota system in particular gets its capacity through line stacking. For a given "line" of stations, some buses will stop at every station, some will stop only at odd stations, some only at even stations, and some only at express stations. Technically this increases capacity but it makes the system really hard to use. And they also suffer from severe over-crowding so passengers can't always get on the bus they need.

[@hanyrahahleh5604]

You are brilliant! Thanks

[@johnwang9914]

The problem with BRT is that the service becomes just a bus service as budgets keep getting cut. It takes dedication to continue doing BRT as they should be.

[@ragellejean]

Vancouver only has B-lines which don't have a bus only lane :/ Also,for some reason the mayors in the area would rather have LRT, instead of actual BRT...

[@edwardmiessner6502]

That's because LRT needs an exclusive right of way that cannot be traded away for a lower cost unlike BRT.

[@bararichter1732]

Ah yes -- the old bait-and-switch tactic. Google BRT Creep. It's a thing, and it's not going away.

[@jzk2020]

Stop spreading your negative propaganda, you creep!

[@CraigFThompson]

"BRT creep"; instigated by a real CREEP!

[@jzk2020]

That's it.... BRT for the WIN!

[@popelgruner595]

In small and medium sized towns. Once a town grows to city size they should better go for Light Rail and trams like we do in EUrope not investing in a system that just can't handle the traffic and just mimics to be a light rail / tram ;-)

[@shandisawara1578]

Welcome to Sudan BRT

[@timosha21]

"exiting" or "disembarking" Not "alighting"

[@GeonaRua]

Confira nosso vídeo sobre BRT. Checkout out video.

[@WilliamHamilton29464]

Of course Metro rail systems are better. They cost ten times as much and take five times as long to build. If you have all that time and money, buy all means build rail.

[@joeltangora1655]

Yes

[@danlisboa5096]

Infelizmente se o Rio de Janeiro é exemplo de transporte/mobilidade do futuro, estamos muito mal hein. O sistema BRT está um caos e abandonado.

[@matheusbattery1795]

A ideia é boa, mas a execução por parte dos governos brasileiros que é ruim.

[@rodri-gocr67]

Aí já não é o BRT o problema, são os governantes corruptos!!

[@Emersonunes]

No Rio em São Paulo tá ótimo

[@STRANGELOVE652]

O brt do rio é hórrido

[@mattl.7159]

does anybody else see a problem with those congested lanes of buses? I'm just saying, in high capacity situations, lrt would be a far cheaper option.

[@WilliamHamilton29464]

IRT costs about 8 to 10 times as much. It's never cheaper. It certainly can be faster and better.

[@alpzepta]

So BRT invented in Brazil?

[@rodri-gocr67]

Yes, Curitiba Brazil!

[@dkhnova]

@@rodri-gocr67 The whole world should thank the people of Curitiba who created this system in the 1970s!

[@Eu-bm3dx]

Yes, here in Curitiba in 1970's!

[@nurukhama9136]

true

[@MrPro897]

You wish. Metro is the past, the present and the future of the urban transportation in modern countries. It's irreplaceable.

[@ChemistryAtomistic]

Metro is expensive. For poor countries, BRT is the future.

[@jedrorm]

Also for rich, sprawling countries. BRT in Europe? Maybe not. But what about mid sized cities in America, Australia and New Zealand? BRT can efficiently serve large areas, without requiring expensive tracks. Busways only need to be built on key corridors. Take Auckland, New Zealand. Buses come from all parts of the Northern peninsular, then join a short (6km) busway to speed past motorway congestion. They even share lanes across the bridge into the city. It's a very popular (moreso than the rail lines) system. In comparison, a light or heavy rail would require a harbour tunnel (probably over $2 billion), and run not only along the busway but also continue along the uncongested parts of the motorway (where buses simply join regular traffic).

[@MrvelvetviruS]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGO9i4iMYtN-sKs BRT its shit. Teerible experience in Bogota, Colombia

[@patriknemeth133]

Absolutely true.

[@Franko-zd6hc]

We need electrical buses

[@ravenrg84]

what about electric buses?

[@wan3349]

ravenrg84 we use that here in Malaysia BRT. erm to be fair our current line is just 5.4KM so erm

[@nicholascharles5547]

Please add DAR ES SALAAM city in Tanzania to your list

[@anoopmenon321]

this video is totally edited, u can see the name board , they are mention some were in UK

[@sophiarocks8157]

Take notes King County, United States

[@LMB222]

Correction, "Future of Transportation in 3rd World Countries". Lower implementation costs but HIGHER running costs.

[@norbertnibunins3194]

bus BRT bus

[@rodri-gocr67]

BRT, Bus, Rapid, transit.

[@rejanebrandao3778]

2023

[@stanteacher943]

I live in Bogota, a city with about 10 million people and we only have this ´´Shit Rapid Transit´´. I have never seen such a terrible form of public transportation. Stations are overcrowded, so are buses, sometimes I have to wait for 40 minutes (during rush hour) for a bus. Sitting? Forget about that, even if you're pregnant you won't ever find a seat on the bus. Horrible system.

[@ravenrg84]

Stanislav Konstantinov the problem is that the system is overused, we need different ways of public tranportation in bogota, brt metro highways bikepaths buses trains carcable ..

[@jzk2020]

Maybe the problem isn't the BRT... maybe the problem is the incompetent people managing it in your city and lack of funds to expand it so as to meet the demand of the city. Would you still think it was shit if there were 3x more stations, 3x more lanes for BRT and 6x more BRT buses (so as to meet demand).... IF your city had the funds to get that done?

[@tachi2.07]

Ther is no problem, BRT is shit

[@edwardmiessner6502]

@@jzk2020 I've seen a video of Bogota's bus rapid transit here on KZbin. Video shows that at rush hour, buses can get caught in slow traffic - in the BRT lane! It seems to me that there is more demand than the BRT can handle and there is no room to expand the corridors shown. Bogota needs a metro.

[@gingerteddy618]

The BRT in Malaysia use elevated road. No traffic jam. Smooth.

[@marcoshenriquesaat3121]

If BRT the future of urban transportation why in the China they made many metro lines ?

[@bbolin5626]

Marcos Henrique Saat Maybe because they want first world infrastructure and not some “fancy” bus that doesn’t carry tons of people.

[@Teochewtuahang]

What you talking about. Many Chinese cities have BRT. Most news about Chinese 🚆 are about high speed train or metro. High speed 🚆 are designed to serve long range route like intercity or interprovincial destination. High speed 🚆 are not designed for metro except the one in Shanghai connect CBD to airport. That train was built by German company and the route was designed as experimental project to evaluate to see if high speed 🚆 is economically possible

[@jimtfmb]

This beats any light rail by the power of 10.

[@williamkay1792]

Istanbul system frequency is claimed to average a departure every 14 seconds at busiest times.

[@popelgruner595]

Nope it doesn't. Light rail and tram-train-systems are the best solution for cities sized 130k-350k. BRT can't really handle it.

[@tachi2.07]

The ligth rail beats any bus system by everything

[@dickprick5044]

Craig F. Thompson why do i see you always replying to brt fans on videos like this in all caps?

[@nurukhama9136]

tachi 2.0

[@OLDSPANKY1967]

The only reason this system is any good is because the bus has it's own privite right of way.

[@williamkay1792]

And that's bad????? Seems 100% sensible to me.

[@iankravitz5723]

What a nice little fantasy! LOL !!!!!

[@dickprick5044]

it's more realistic than streetcars taking us everywhere

[@twitchtelevizyonu5610]

Bu Sistem Bizim Bildiğimiz Metrobüs Sistemi Amk Bu Sistem İstanbulda Zaten Var.

[@javiser95]

El PEOR sistema de transporte del mundo. No dignifica al usuario, es incómodo, lento, demorado, además los buses contaminan porque los negocios de ITDP es que los buses sean movilizados con diesel. Acá en Bogotá este sistema es una pesadilla, pero la población de Bogotá olvida y es masoquista y volvieron a legrar de Alcalde al vendedor principal de BRT en el mundo: Enrique Peñalosa, y ahora que volvió a la ciudad hizo botar a la basura los estudios del metro subterráneo a cambio de sus troncales de buses.

[@Emersonunes]

Hermano esto transporte es para ciudades que tienen menos que 5 millones de habitantes o que tienen líneas de buses complementares y metrô (Todo Brasil tiene) por esto no dio cierto en Bogotá tiene 10 millones de habitantes y No tiene metro

[@STRANGELOVE652]

This didn’t age well at all

[@railfan9174]

BRT not good...