Natural Trumpet

[@thadhorner5129]

Those are not Natural Trumpets in the video. They are the Vented Trumpet, or so-called "Baroque" Trumpet, which was actually invented after the Baroque Period ended. When you see a player holding the trumpet with ONE hand, upright in the "Heroic" pose, that is the true Natural Trumpet, the trumpet which was actually played in the Baroque Period. The Vent Holes were added later, as a concession to make this very difficult instrument easier to play in tune.

[@musicalaviator]

And not even "A little" later. The Baroque period is typically said to end around 1750 give or take a few years, and the vented "Baroque" trumpet was invented in oooh about 1950. So only 200 years late.

[@bobbarclay8683]

Yes, it is disingenuous bordering on deceitful to brand them as natural trumpets. Have you read my book "Henry VIII's Motorcycle"? It lays out the history of vent hole developments and calls out the liars for what they are. It's a great read, even though I say so myself.

[@allwinds3786]

​@@bobbarclay8683I'll check it out, thank you.

[@smguy7]

Vented trumpets? Naughty! Naughty!

[@henriquessilveira]

Everything but natural... vented trumpets, modern invention...

[@mjarail]

There is a recording by Don Smithers and Ton Koopman of trumpet music played on non-vented instruments.

[@GamerTime_2002]

I didn't think they guy at the end was playing the higher part until he breathed. He made it look 100% effortless

[@Timrath]

Those aren't natural trumpets. They're baroque trumpets. Natural trumpets don't have vents.

[@tmeekins42]

Yes. I came to post the same.

[@over50fitnessinstructor15]

Please!!! Don't call them Naturaltrumpets🙏 But Respect for nice playing!

[@jasonsummit1885]

Any thoughts about the serpent horn? Now that would be a hard instrument to make sound good, but it can be done.👍

[@Josh_Fredman]

Does anyone know the music at 1:02? I love Baroque-era brass music and this is one I haven't heard yet!

[@archkde]

That's the opening fanfare to Monteverdi's L'Orfeo. Here's my favorite version I've found of it on KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnPWiZWkZcifmLc

[@Josh_Fredman]

ArchKDE, thank you! =]

[@Ekvitarius]

Those a baroque trumpets, a modern invention utilizing fingerholes. Natural trumpets don’t have these.

[@donny4038]

fingerholes do not make it like a modern valved trumpet as far as ease of hitting notes, it is simply to fix tuning of the natural harmonic series.

[@jaymartin2037]

Excellent!

[@allwinds3786]

I'm so tired of people trying to pass those things as natural, they're vented!!!

[@yjwukt88]

How do natural trumpet play with well-tempered instruments? Any problem?

[@mal2ksc]

Not particularly well. The fifth harmonic (and by extension, the tenth) is about 15 cents below 12ET, but this can be (and often is, in modern instruments) carefully engineered away with the bore profile. The seventh harmonic is about 30 cents flat, and not used on modern instruments except trombone. The eleventh is a quarter-tone flat or sharp, depending on whether you expect it to represent F♯ or F♮. This is why even "historically informed" trumpets like these have holes, where the originals did not.

[@glynburtt]

Wow, A lot of Mieren-neuken over the vent holes in the comments. Lovely playing. Whilst I love watching Monsieur Madeuf playing with no holes as much as the next person, I still find the tuning unbearable. Valveless trumpets with vent holes are, IMHO, still the best compromise in a world where we have got used to modern temperaments and tuning. Unless we're going to wind back the clock in period performance to a time where we can retune everything to fit better with a harmonic series produced with no vent-holes, then its going to be tough to sell me on the benefits of hole-less trumpets.

[@bobbarclay8683]

True, the baroque music factory has to use equal temperament, but that's no excuse for telling lies about your instruments. These are not natural trumpets, and it is disingenuous bordering on deceitful to brand them as such. Have you read my book "Henry VIII's Motorcycle"? It's a great read, even though I say so myself. In fact, it should be required reading for music students.

[@quartzx5711]

Wow... that accuracy though!

[@christobell123]

Is there a full video of this concert available? Also, what is the last piece they play? I must get a recording of that

[@Kowabrass]

The last piece is from Johann Ernst Altenburg. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6nMop9var-Zhqs

[@57dogsbody]

Fabulous sound! What is the range of the natural trumpet? (I mean from lowest note to highest). Where can you learn to play it?

[@adrianlush6764]

They use inauthentic fingerhole trumpets

[@karolykomlossy2505]

not for purists... :P

[@thedarkcow1112]

imagine dragons?

[@jackhousman6637]

I'll bet that that poor theorbo player can't even hear himself.

[@edecioalejandrogarridomore4152]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa........................!!!!!!!! Sure..!!

[@costicapdefier7316]

9uu

[@nicolobattaglia1742]

Per favore non fatemi vergogna quelle non sono trombe naturali !!

[@jeanparke9373]

Modern instruments suck. They are just loud and boring. Everybody should learn the period instruments.

[@safetysizzerz3530]

just don't tell arturo sandoval

[@sammo5000]

Yeah, but the ohphicleide and serpent suck ass as instruments. Not so easy for a tuba player.

[@joshuawatson1582]

r/iamverysmart

[@BuzzVenturion]

Sweeping generalizations suck. They are unjust, stupid and boring. Everybody should learn tolerance. Period.

[@davidalderson4980]

I know, all that finely tuned, consistent richness of sound, just awful. Modern medicine too; I just hate that. Progress in general is for wimps.