BRUTALLY HONEST | Air Canada Boeing 787 ECONOMY from Vienna via Toronto to Los Angeles in 2024!

[@ptlam8744]

This is why Simply Aviation is one of my favourite airline reviewing channel. You guys rarely review the more luxurious sides of airlines, but mainly the more relevant side (Economy)

[@magnustan841]

I would actually like to see more premium economy videos by them, not gonna lie

[@andropahsa3904]

And don't create unnecessary drama like other review

[@chakky533]

Agreed, though please do include Premium Economy, @simply_aviation! The difference being we can't go any cheaper than Economy, whereas economy plus/premium is actually viable for many of us, on occasion, so the reviews are actually much more impactful!

[@lp3ligr0l]

Take that non stop dan

[@RobertH-qb5it]

The 'more relevant side'? Yeah, I guess if you are poor.

[@pileofstuff]

The thumbnail asks "why do Canadians accept this?" The answer is that we have very few other choices. Other airlines have tried, but Canada is a really big place with very low population density. It's a hard place to build any service affordably that relies on economies of scale.

[@avroarchitect1793]

on top of tight safety regulation, environmental regulation and high taxes on everything. In short, the only companies able to compete in the Canadian economy are the largest and most powerful.

[@thecaynuck]

Porter? WestJet? Air Transat? Flair for a ULCC carrier? There's plenty of options, especially domestically and to the US.

[@zeeshawnali4078]

@@avroarchitect1793 Not just that but international airlines are not allowed to offer domestic flights within Canada. That reduces competition. They should open up the market for the benefit of Canadian travellers similar to what Australia did.

[@avroarchitect1793]

@@zeeshawnali4078 problem is with the proximity to the US. The US companies would be able to undercut the Canadian airlines so much that they get run out of business and we loose yet another domestic industry. The economic power disparity between Canada and the US means that any US company would be able to undercut the Canadian one no matter the industry. Its why we are so protectionist about our economy and do things like manipulating the supply of some goods in Canada. To preserve domestic ownership. We've lost aircraft manufacturing, are loosing automotive manufacturing (despite being branch plants already), and the US corps are going after farming and the dairy industry in particular.

[@Dexter037S4]

@@thecaynuck Flair is basically a dead airline walking, Bonza (Australian Subsidiary) just went bankrupt two months ago, and Flair is basically only being kept alive by the Summer Travel boom, they'll be dead by October.

[@oldFltAttndnt]

That was probably the most honest and realistic review of Air Canada. Expect very little and you won't be disappointed, sad but true !!

[@keenahudson1853]

My flight with Air Canada was the worst I've ever experienced. The crew were great but the extended time due to delay - 5 hours mostly spent sitting on the tarmac - plus the terrible entertainment meant it was horrendous. The best options were reruns of Friends. I have never taken another long haul flight in economy. Air Canada cured me. And I will never, ever, fly Air Canada again.

[@erichanson134]

The only reason Air Canada is offering free beer & wine + snacks? Simple. Porter

[@patriciabouchard5296]

International flights have ALWAYS given free alcohol, you are referring to domestic and transborder flights. (US)

[@erichanson134]

@@patriciabouchard5296 yes, I was referring to the announcement in the video where AC is piloting free alcohol and snacks on domestic/transborder flights as a way to compete with Porter head on. However if any of these services stop from Porter, so does service from AC.

[@guitarkat5762]

Also WestJet just screwing things up. Got the jump on them with free wine and beer right after their announced issues and Ultrabasic fiasco. As a Canadian, where car travel long distance to things suck, this helps a great deal on a red eye haha

[@robertkelly8106]

Just took Porter from YYZ to LAX. No more Air Canada for me.

[@a.c.e.7568]

They've been doing that long before Porter existed.

[@verysinful27]

I am so glad you showcase economy class. Not all of us can afford business or first class. I don’t understand those influencer promoting business and first class.

[@robm3074]

Regarding the dimming of the windows drama situation. I work as a flight crew member for a US airline that flies many 787s. I work the 787 a lot. The problem with the dimming of the shades Is caused by conflict within the flight crew. There is constant arguing and bickering whether to control the shades or let the customer control the shades. I cannot tell you how many disputes I have witnessed over this issue. I wish this new invention was never invented.

[@patriciabouchard5296]

Never encountered crew fighting for control of shades.

[@animateddepression]

Noticed this on a WJ Dreamliner. They also don’t dim to opaque so sleeping in the window seat YVR to CDG was impossible. Bright sun and hot the whole time.

[@generalemail1964]

@@patriciabouchard5296They are not physical shades. The “glass” can be controlled electronically to change the amount of opaqueness.

[@cdpond]

What never should have happened is to allow the flight crew to have any control over them, aside from during landing and takeoff. The rest of the time, just like the old manual slide down shades, it should be entirely at the discretion of the passenger.

[@Karspa247]

You are cabin crew not flight crew. Please learn your title and your position !

[@maguires]

Like many I now avoid AC due to declining service standards for reasons you've cited. My last trip i had my connecting YVR-YYZ cancelled due to scheduling and best offer was a redeye option after about 10 hours or one day layover with no hotel coverage. Porter is a better option where they fly or other carriers.

[@xulong]

"different brand of sparkling water" 😂

[@notactuallymyrealname]

I wouldn't mind the level of quality on Air Canada if they weren't so overpriced. I was hoping to take a roundtrip nonstop economy class PDX-YYZ this summer, but it was so expensive that I ended up doing a PDX-YYZ one-way, then on to EWR with Porter for a week in New York, and back EWR-PDX *in first class* on Alaska, for only $80 more than PDX-YYZ-PDX. They're just so... mid, which is fine, but the pricing definitely doesn't match.

[@MrRedwingsfan16]

They have a monopoly on the Canadian market. It’s a joke…also fun fact, they pay their pilots 55k starting salary, and no one makes more than 100k in the first 4 years. When you get hired at air Canada, you are taking a pay cut because you will have about 10 years work experience. They charge so much and pay their employees substantially less than other mainline carriers in the world. Truly sad

[@jonnyhammerwielder3951]

@@MrRedwingsfan16All horseshit, you don’t know what you’re talking about. They have the biggest market share, but not a monopoly. Do a little research before you spew.

[@saheel1850]

@@MrRedwingsfan16Canada is a third world country in disguise

[@winkdinkerman733]

@@MrRedwingsfan16Air Canada is headquartered in Quebec,so is Bell.

[@visaman]

Alaska has First Class? 😮

[@superfast30]

I appreciate you acknowledging the ramp staff and the job they do irrespective of how bad the weather is.

[@versasys]

I worked at AC as an AME for 35 years, thank you for your appreciation of our work.

[@JeanClaudeCOCO]

Air Canada has a near monopoly in Canada and it shows.

[@DanTheCaptain]

Near monopoly with greedy management. Avoid Air Canada and WestJet. Do not work or support these companies. Their managers received record setting bonuses under Covid while multiple departments are threatening to strike. That should tell you everything.

[@BetterYet]

WestJet, strike exception, is getting better. Covid killed our favourite flight 4 years ago but it is back on now. Yay.

[@Baboon001]

Exactly. Where ever you need to fly, Air Canada has to be involved.

[@Epic_Routes]

I second this

[@jonathandpg6115]

this is so false. Just because you don't like your options doesn't mean they have a monopoly. our population isn't that big we will never have 50 airlines

[@Dexter037S4]

WestJet has it's own problems, Porter (Canada's 3rd largest Airline now) is by far the best option, and will likely be joining OneWorld shortly.

[@AlannaShaw-it8cp]

Porter has the most uncomfortable seats.

[@jamesbradley3741]

Air Canada offers expensive prices for a cheap experience. They always have. Yet you will board to a soundtrack telling you how great they are and how many awards they have won.....

[@jamsaanich4993]

Great catch of that luggage falling off the belt @ 19:43. 😂

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

hahaha, using the wrong cart in the slippery weather

[@rickkuny6591]

Canadians aren’t okay with this. The reputation is horrible we despise our national carrier and the near Monopoly position that they occupy

[@WhoopityDoo]

Add cellular and internet service to that as well.

[@MYRRHfamily]

Interesting what you cover. My strategy in Econ class is to bring something to cover your eyes and ears when you wanna shut down. Download movies to your phone - the audio sucks on planes. Reply as little as possible in airline food. Eat before you go, and shut down, go comatose during the flight. Just skip those 12-18 hours of your life.

[@cristianboldisor1175]

AC is quite mediocre service wise. It's not the worst airliner on Earth for sure.It's just that there is nothing remarkable about them.

[@loveisnotanemotionloveisli6512]

I think you hit the nail when you say mediocre… hehehe

[@cms4229]

It’s not the worst. AC is just “there”.

[@christian8782]

Its just exist, its okay, not the worst but certainly not the best

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

The best are in Middle east ​@christian8782

[@sean_king]

But terrible given the high prices they charge

[@grantpooler9918]

Air Canada domestic ticket prices are over priced. I live in Canada and fly to asia quite often. The oceanic flight usually is cheaper then the domestic ticket

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

Why is that

[@xiaogu00fa]

@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f monopoly

[@smallmj2886]

@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f Lack of competition. Westjet is really focusing on Western Canada now, and Porter is still pretty limited. Neither is part of an alliance and have limited partners so international itineraries from smaller cities usually mean taking AC.

[@shinemendwoor]

Landing fees too expensive in the country. More expensive than Dubai

[@thecaynuck]

@@smallmj2886 Porter doesn't seem very limited anymore, they're Canada's fastest growing airline and are expanding their Canada/US route network. They plan to do some Caribbean routes too.

[@aselwyn1]

18:40 i love the attention to detail of the Wish and Congratulations livery's although slightly out of date now there is also a Golden Oylmpics livery too

[@mikeetee]

Great video as always! I'm very happy to say the Disney safety video is gone; they have gone back to the across Canada nature video. Re the hot beverage service, I understand this happens sometimes when the seatbelt sign is turned on. On my recent transatlantic daytime economy flight, they had hot beverage after lunch. I totally agree about pre-lunch drink service!

[@robertblue3795]

Just flew this exact flight from Vienna to Toronto two days ago. Overall very pleased with the flight particularly the quality of the crew and service. Snacks and drinks were offered numerous times beyond meal service.

[@jfmezei]

BTW, the International to USA passenger flow is relatively new (last 10 years). And is pretty fancy. Your checked luggage is x-rayed upon arriving and the image associted with your baggage tag/reservation. The suitcase is then automatically sent to a holding area. When you clear US customs, the US customs agent will see the X-Ray picture of your luggage and can then press a button to release the suicase/bin when then gets routed to the departure gate baggage makeup area, or have it brought upstairs for examination by an agent. So for vast majoriry of passengers, it means your suitcase remains on a bin in the automated baggage system between the flights with no need to put it on a carrousel/baggage belt for pickup by a human. You used to have to get your luggage and go through Canada Customs and then to US customs where your checked baggage would be dropped back into belt and then security.

[@jerrythemouse28]

17:50 They also have 18 787-10s on order to replace A330s, once the first 787-10 delivers, they will be the 4th airline in the world to have all 3 variants of 787s

[@antonh1709]

If they don't start phasing out 787-8s at the same time.

[@jerrythemouse28]

@@antonh1709 That might not happen until at least mid-late 2030s

[@tropichydra7190]

Can't wait for them to get rid of the 330s

[@ERAviation-sq7ud]

@@tropichydra7190 Not happening for a long time even if/when the -10 comes. Too much has been invested into that fleet and to much life is left in it.

[@animateddepression]

Ugh I was hoping they’d order some NEOs.

[@TekindusT]

The dunk on 10:25 🤣🤣 I experienced locked windows set on full dim on my first 787 flight back in 2017 with Scoot and it sure tainted my image of the airline and this aircraft model. The message is “you passengers are a nuisance and want you asleep so you don’t bother us with your little stupid demands”.

[@marshallrichmond4909]

We didn't get much snow last winter. It was actually quite mild. You must have flown here on the one or two days we got snow. But it wasn't snowing hard in your video. You can still see.

[@alfonsocuiti]

The dimming windows in 787s are my most hated airplane thing ever. Well actually not the dimming but the fact that they are always locked

[@jackp-w3886]

You can override them. Idk how people don’t know this.

[@MoonbeameSmith]

@@jackp-w3886 Spill the secret.

[@stvdagger8074]

@@MoonbeameSmith You will need a Phillips-head screwdriver to remove the wall panel below the window. You will see a red wire - Don't touch that as it could shut off the engines! There will be a grey knob. Pull it out and there will be a blue and grey wires attached to it. Strip about 1.3 cm of both wires and twist them together. Use some duct tape to keep them in contact. Screw the wall panel back on - Be very careful not to pinch off the red wire

[@MoonbeameSmith]

@@stvdagger8074 not a job for the colour blind..

[@generalemail1964]

@@jackp-w3886You don’t even know this.

[@pdtravels]

I recently flew on a Air Canada 787-8 (C-GHPQ), and the crew dimmed the windows darker than C-GHPY, seems to be a problem on that plane.

[@benz516]

Just flew with their overhauled service, 2 days after it launched, on flights from Toronto to the west coast. It's great! Their entire menu got an overhaul, and their IFE options are always growing. I really hope this works out for them.

[@abieshanganeshamurthi5885]

The IFE shown on this flight is the older version. On the 787-9 and 777-200LR (both of which I've recently flown in the last year) has a newer IFE featuring music playlists from Stingray.

[@visaman]

Air Canada Express also has Stingray.

[@giib]

One of the best Aviation review channels out there . keep em coming .

[@derkleebaum]

They do usually offer tea or coffee after the meal, not sure why they didn’t on your flight. I have done quite a few transatlantic flights between Toronto and Munich/Amsterdam this year, and they always served coffee/tea after the meal.

[@weazelzinacan8866]

It is standard procedure to serve coffee and tea after the meal on Air Canada. If it wasn't served, someone thought those who want it can just go grab it from the galley...

[@anthonywalsh2164]

Air Canada or Qantas from Vancouver to Sydney/Brisbane would be a great review. BTW The small things do add up. I hate the lack of the pre dinner drink service.

[@longduong5212]

It was great when Porter Airlines roasted AC on social media for adding free drinks and snacks on economy class flights within 🇨🇦 🇺🇸, something Porter has done for quote a while now 😂

[@conorcorrigan765]

YVR-SYD on the AC 777-200LR is notoriously miserable with AC's high-density 3-4-3 777 layout... Probably not as bad as the 17hrs nonstop DEL-YYZ on the same plane though.

[@longduong5212]

@conorcorrigan765 was the same when AC had the YYZ-HKG route with the 777-200LR. 15 hours. That route isn't coming back anytime soon because of the closure of Russian airspace to AC.

[@johnbunker5102]

Air Canada may not be #1 on the Economy Flight Comfort List but, it sure as heck beats Air France's A350 Service From Paris to Ottawa. AC's flight attendants are a damn sight more pleasant too. I didn't have enough room on the AF flight to open my table. The dipstick in front of me reclined his seat and left it reclined, even through meals and, when brought to the attention of the flight attendants ( who also wears a security badge now ) nothing was done and I was basically told "to bad".

[@ivantheterrible860]

I don't get it why so many people complain about AC! Flying Air Canada remained one of my favourite moments in flying, and do I fly! I flew Air Canada few years ago, everything was just good and very smooth! I flew three flights, from Frankfurt to Montreal, and back, first on a domestic flight from Montreal to Toronto and then from Toronto to Frankfurt. All three planes brand new, all was on time, good IFE, and good food on intl segments, I mean really good food on int flights, flight attendants really nice. I don't know how can it go wrong on so many accounts with Air Canada for so many other people

[@fredflintstone2234]

My OVERPRICED flight to Europe was CANCELLED ON THREE TIMES ! No way to reach customer service! I think they sadistically enjoyed the misery they made me pay for! THERE IS NO CUSTOMER SERVICE PHONE EVER AFTER WAITING ON HOLD FOR THREE HOURS. THEY WILL NOT PAY FOR YOUR HOTEL ROOM AFTER THEY CANCEL YOUR OVERNIGHT FLIGHT.

[@annlarson5663]

You got lucky.

[@malo66]

Very interesting to see the de-icing activity in Toronto!

[@Izmael1310]

Photo at planespotters from 25th May - already new paint :D

[@nonenowherebye]

Back in 2011 or so, I and a bunch of other Air Canada Super Elites (100k flyers) were invited out to the 787 pre-launch event in Toronto. They had a big mixer between their top flyers in and around Boeing's 787 prototype (SN #2). We got to see all parts of the aircraft, sit in the cockpit, go up into the crew rest areas, and see the various seating configurations. Economy would have been glorious had they gone with a 2-4-2 configuration. Instead they went with the 3-3-3 configuration, which is far too narrow for people of average size.

[@dodaz5604]

Lol, canadians of average size are simply fat... 3-3-3 rulez !

[@Muskoxing]

I've absolutely experienced that coziness on my many nighttime de-icing stints leaving Pearson in a snowstorm... Great video!

[@chaughten]

Air Canada: we're not satisfied until you're unsatisfied

[@cfevg]

Just arrived on a AC flight from LAS to YVR and beer (not sparkling water) was free.

[@incarnateTheGreat]

23:03 hahaha you purposely focused on the LAX In 'n Out! 😂😂

[@sebastienlemay6120]

So from your video this seems perfectly fine. Gets you to your destination in relative comfort.

[@rollo8259]

The 787’s wings are so beautiful

[@bilalahmed2123]

I sat in this very plane back in January 15,2019. Toronto (YYZ) to London (LHR), 11pm flight. It was a nice flight. Think this aircraft is coming up for retirement soon. However, not so sure with the repaint done. Think they keep their planes in the fleet for about 20 years.

[@pilotm6572]

The premium economy product on AC (especially the 787s) is probably my favorite, it has the best service, very comfortable, spacious and we had our own bathroom by the doors

[@jadenzirnig1845]

Gonna fly it from Toronto-Vancouver-Toronto-Vienna. Not sure what to expect

[@rulewski33]

I´m going to fly FRA-YYZ in October with AC on their Airbus A330. I guess it will be just fine like the Video stated.

[@LFCIbroM]

Already flown on AC from LAX and the IFE took as long as the coffee to come 😂😂😂

[@brodietaym8475]

Keep those expectations low. VERY low. If they actually do a good job, it will be mediocre & at least you won't be disappointed.

[@jadenzirnig1845]

@@brodietaym8475 Thank you

[@antonh1709]

@@brodietaym8475 A typical economy flight. Just expect to get from where you are to where you need to be, but not much beyond that.

[@Jimmy-Mc]

I like what Air Canada offers, mostly because if you fly overseas from the US with a connection in Canada, it's hundreds of dollars cheaper than the big US airlines. I'll buy some snacks in the airport for those savings.

[@bethjay5225]

Always a good idea to take some of your own food - you never know what you'll get on board (or not get), and then you've got your own food, guaranteed, if you get hungry, or if you end up getting stuck on board or otherwise delayed.

[@cupidrenvrc]

i agree! would rather pay cheaper flight fares then go for a big woo hoo airline company like united or klm etc

[@jerrythemouse28]

18:55 ANA, United, and British Airways

[@davidbalcon8726]

Enhanced food/drinks in Y due to competition from Porter on select North American routes which offers such inflight service.

[@tdb7992]

I'm surprised they have a Disney themed in-flight safety video. What does that have to do with Canada? It seems like Air Canada sold Disney some advertising space. That's a very odd situation. I would've thought they'd do something similar to Air New Zealand or Qantas, where the video is used as a way to 'show off' the country whilst also speaking about safety. P.s. loved the joke about American beer being 'sparkling water'. There's an old Australian joke - "drinking American beer is like making love in a canoe - it's f*cking close to water".

[@harrisonhschan]

Air Canada used to have a in-flight safety video that showed every province/territory up until last summer but I guess they sold ad space to Disney... I mean a lot of Canadians will go down to Florida for a sun vacation so it makes sense for the advertising though...

[@Avi-on5jp]

@@harrisonhschanit’s still on most flights. The Disney one is on random flights it seems.

[@benz516]

The Disney video is only on most flights to Florida and LA, select trans-oceanic flights into major hubs, plus a handful of other flights seem to play it at random. The Canadian tour video is still played on most flights

[@bethjay5225]

Having flown AC across Canada several times recently, I too was wondering what the Disney theme has to do with Canada!!!

[@M_SC]

Sold some to Bell too. I bet that bell offer has a catch. bell always has a terrible catch. Never do bell.

[@matte8441]

I flew on that plane from Amsterdam to Montreal in summer 2024.. They even had the exact same meal offerings but i had the pasta as they ran out of the chicken when they got to me. The on-time reliability is spot on, the inbound flight was delayed for 1.5 hours due to a faulty water level sensor and the outbound flight was also delayed by 1.5 hours for a maintenance issue that wasn't disclosed. One thing AC did well is on-board wifi, i bought a pass for around $20 CAD for the whole flight and it was surprisingly fast and had minimal lag.

[@kentokyo]

Great review! I travel between Tokyo and Vancouver often, but I’ll never choose Air Canada again. I had the same experience on the Tokyo-Vancouver route: no drinks offered until the meal, and no coffee or tea afterward. I’m sure the flight attendants would have given it to you if you asked, but I constantly heard them talking to each other over the cart while throwing meals onto the table without much care. It felt like serving passengers was more of an inconvenience to them than being professional. I’ll avoid Air Canada if there are other options.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

I actually like how Air Canada dealt with flight cancellations recently. Few weeks ago my wife's next day flight from Amsterdam to Montreal was cancelled, while she was in the hotel in Amsterdam sleeping. She was supposed to continue Montreal-Vancouver next. Air Canada automatically rebooked her on a direct AMS-YVR KLM flight that was leaving AMS 3 hours later and arriving to YVR 4 hours earlier than her original itinerary. She just got email with 'Please confirm the change' button, pressed it, and turned over back to sleep. And KLM is not even the same alliance as AC. Same happened to me with domestic YVR YEG half a year ago. Just an email, please confirm new itinerary, no need to call or do anything.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

Air Canada’s motto is: We’re not happy until you’re not happy.

[@TawanMomo]

7:53 I feel like the window shades problem might not just be Air Canada’s. I recently board a Jetstar 787 and it had the same issue there

[@candytoo3729]

I like Air Canada and have flown with them for 25 years. I find that economy class is the same with all airlines. I like their staff and always feel safe and cared for.

[@ryanbyrne2917]

The dimmable windows are why I seek out the A350 and A380 for long haul flights over the 787.

[@jacobl9938]

I remember flying the AC 787 last year. I was to sad to be leaving Italy to paid attention to anything else, though.

[@brookeintheair]

Been on this route, quite nice in Signature class

[@ohiogma]

we traveled Air Canada this past September our first transatlantic flight. Toronto to Edinburgh and back everything went smoothly no problems had the exact same meal was delicious. was offered drinks and snacks. I had no complaints. we were thrilled to get a good price on the flight that we could afford. happy to be traveling period. No delays luggage made it with no damage or delay. what more could we ask for.

[@manualflight]

they reintroduced the food and drink services in domestic and USA flights because of Porter Airlines. XD. They really arent trying to be competitive since the Caribbean flights remain unchanged

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Fantastic trip report David!!

[@Metoobie]

1:58 what are the metrics of the study? I'm surprised not to see Porter

[@rezaalan3991]

Great flight, that colour of window tint when on fully opened remind me about cowboys movie or movie about somewhere in Mexico or surrounding, especially South America.

[@andrewbenitez1459]

This is one of your BEST review ever! Fair and truly honest! Love it! ❤

[@panama-canada]

0:09 am I seeing things or there’s a dent in the tail?

[@gavinpalmer9174]

I had the same issue with yellow tinted 787 windows on American. Really weird.

[@jimmyjames6492]

Thanks for the info + video!

[@patrickb827]

Great down-to-earth review, as always. Excellent work, keep these coming please!

[@WhyAMrandom]

You should consider adding imperial conversion if you have the time in editing as in Canada we usual measure height in feet but use cm sometimes

[@ChemicalMusic25]

That particular plane sure gets around, been from Osaka to Frankfort and many points in between this week alone. Amazing workhorse. The week before Argentina. Wow.

[@A380lover-lc7bj]

At 19:45 a suitcase fell 😂

[@Nexus_A350XWB]

Icy moment LOL 😂

[@Andrew-Wong]

lol 😂😂

[@Nadia1989]

The suitcase: WHEEEEEEE!!!!

[@Tman1010]

Wow good eye! That’s funny 😂.

[@travelshad]

I usually only fly Air Canada to/from Dubai/Canada because I’m a member of Aeroplan and it gets me my points on AC and other Star Alliance carriers.

[@numbnutz9398]

It's easy to accept as a Canadian because we have no choice. We have no competition. The airlines can do whatever they want.

[@xhonkeri4066]

They have no incentive to go above and beyond because they have no noteworthy competition, and are in hands with the government commissions that oversee Canadian aviation… unfortunate reality

[@hockey1freak]

Hopefully WestJet keeps stepping it up. I usually fly AC even though I'm in the US. That said, US has 3 major airlines + JetBlue and yet they still aren't very good, especially domestically.

[@JeanClaudeCOCO]

@@hockey1freak but internationally the US big 3 have newer lounges, updated board products and over all better service ( Delta) specifically to be superior to that of air Canada. I’ve seen a ton of air Canada reviews and I’ve seen US airlines international reviews and the U.S. carriers all edge out Air Canada in one of more metric.

[@brodietaym8475]

​@@hockey1freakI wouldn't hold my breath. Example: air Canada & westjet both operate flights between Ottawa & Winnipeg with fares averaging $900 RT which is already ridiculous WJ is usually cheaper by $100 which is hardly competitive. WJ has also been slowly pulling out of the Eastern Canada market since 2019 which shows how non existent competition is.

[@brodietaym8475]

They're also tightly protected from competition (both domestic and foreign) through various legislation & other protective measures ensuring they have the upper hand in everything including the ability of other domestic competitors to play with them

[@jfmezei]

@@hockey1freak Westjet are "stuck" with 7 787s that they must use but cancelled the rest of the order. They have regrouped their little long haul network to Calgary and reficused their strtegy to be domestic low cost carriers in western Canada , woth leasure flighrts across Canada. So doubtful you'll see the carboard box microwaved meals on 787s get upgraded to real meals. Air Transat, which used to be charter carrier (ultra low cost) is now better than both Westjet and Air Canada for coach so so because because they improved, but more because AC downgraded their coach product.

[@vincentcalvelli6452]

Thank you David for another fair even handed review of Air Canada service.

[@itachi0105]

AC really doesn't have that many 787s The LAX flight is usually on an A321 or 737. You're lucky you got a 787

[@FastGuy1]

AC doesn’t have 737s

[@itachi0105]

They literally have 40 737 Max 8s​@@FastGuy1

[@CongressSux1776]

@@FastGuy1 Yeah they do. They have max-8’s

[@FastGuy1]

@@CongressSux1776 oh sorry. I was thinking 737NG’s 😅

[@FastGuy1]

@@CongressSux1776 But are they going to order any 737-9Max??

[@OwlRTA]

I think the IFE software on the second flight was different from the first one. That more represented the one I remember flying on Air Canada's 787 last October/November.

[@MelvisVelour]

Those scratchy single use covers are beyond awful however, a friend of mine who hates them even more found cloth ones that she carries with her and washes to her preference. It looks like someone figured out there's a niche market for this and went for it.

[@magnustan841]

Seems like your no nonsense, gets the job done kind of airline. I’d imagine given Canadians’ friendliness, the crews will be very nice. Thanks for sharing another journey with us!

[@adilmahmud5773]

Graphics showcase of ( air Canada's fleet, colors, meal comparison from last few years, % of delays etc...) is amazing...Haven't seen this on another channel. AC feedback also seems very true and balanced....great video...very informative...well done 👍

[@dogetea]

Damm i did the same flight in march from vie then transferred in Toronto to chile and for me it was just normal. Nothing special nothing bad.

[@dougbriggs4176]

Air Canada motto…Were not happy until you’re not happy. But charge top dollar for the “service”.

[@misled1982]

LAN (now LATAM) did the same to me on my flight from EZE to JFK...I hated they blocked the window shades!

[@adrianmuino3412]

I have to agree, I also were disappointed when flying with AC, is like they do not make absolutely any effort to make you feel pleased, it is almost like a low cost at high cost.

[@barryhaley7430]

Here’s how I experienced the windows on a Dreamliner on an Air Canada flight Paris to Toronto in Premium Economy. The flight was at 10:00 AM. As soon as we reached altitude they rushed a drink service then immediately the lunch service. Then they totally darkened the windows, pulled the curtains and we never saw the crew for 4 hours. They, in effect, turned the day flight into a night flight.

[@ryanmoroso2681]

Omg! I flew C-FNOG YYZ-FCO last year

[@V1Rotate380]

Can you please do a Video about Emirates A380 Economy

[@Archduke17]

There is a myriad of Emirates videos on KZbin.

[@V1Rotate380]

@@Archduke17I know but these Reviews are way better than others

[@desertfox486]

They've already done Emirates A380 videos in economy.

[@shuzfetish]

Canadians have no choice as our glorious country limits airline competition as they do with telecommunications, dairy, eggs, and a whole host of other things. We are destined to accept mediocre as how we define Canada.

[@Joe-mz6dc]

We Canadians are victims of our own cultural modesty. We don't want to offend anyone else by endeavoring to be better than them LOL

[@fredflinstone8628]

We limit domestic routes. There are many foreign airlines you can take for many international trips. Also, it's no different in Canada than the US or EU on their domestic or short haul flights. In fact it's worse in the EU because their carry on luggage size and weight is less than N America. And if you have traveled economy on any US airline domestic flight it is the same shit service and sardines in a can seating.

[@leanderrowe2800]

Just the other day, I listened to a video in BNN about airline business. These are the main points which may explain why there's little competition in Canada : 1) Evidently it's not the easiest nor profitable business for start-up. The joke is if you are a billionaire and start an airline, you'll become a millionaire. However allowing American airlines to run in Canada will eventually lead to merging into a bigger airline which definitely does not help competition. 2) To be profitable, every flight needs to be 75-85 % full. 3) With Canada being the second biggest country in the world (in area) yet with scarce population (10 %of U.S.), it's not easy to offer flights all over the country like Air Canada. 4) It's easier for smaller airlines choosing only big cities or specific profitable routes. 5) Air Canada lost money during the pandemic years and is still trying to make up for all the loss. That explains the reason why Air Canada stock still is tanking into all time low while the TSX is at all time high.

[@nonprecision]

A better citizen would be happy with what’s provided comrade. Go Blue Jays.

[@ttul]

I came here to make the same comment. Canada is a vast country, virtually empty north of the border with the United States. A few giant companies are permitted to monopolize key industries including telecommunications, aerospace, transportation, and food. Enjoying a cozy relationship with whichever party happens to be in power, the country’s ludicrously underpowered Competition Bureau is hindered at every turn from doing anything substantial to change the status quo. That being said, the United States also restricts foreign companies from flying point-to-point within the country’s borders, as do most other countries. If Canada were to change tack and allow the entry of foreign carriers to provide service between Canadian cities, this would be a welcome and dramatic departure from norms. I doubt Air Canada would survive for long in its current form amid such competition. But Canadians would surely benefit from lower prices.

[@gvyong]

I flew AC's long haul SEA-SIN return this summer. Glad AC is around as a 'bottom feeder' of fliers who can't afford higher prices of Asian airlines. $1.2K isn't the best but it was for this summer. I also liked the CBP preclearance experience at YVR that does not require retrieval of checked luggage.

[@EthanLomas]

Good review. Thank you

[@sho1715]

As a frequent flyer of Air Canada, it was really fun and informative to watch. I am always disappointed that transborder flights even do not provide any complimentary meals or snacks even with a 5-6 hours flight, but I am surprised that they will introduce the service. Thanks for the updates ;)

[@jimhankinson4428]

In Aprill I flew 5 consecutive AC flights, short, medium and long haul, most in economy (the last, Vancouver-Incheon, in Premium), and they weren't very good. There was no food at all on the Toronto-Vancouver leg (well over 4 hours), because of problems with their supplier in Toronto. The seats were mostly pretty uncomfortable; the Premium seat was OK, but the service was terrible, and the food mid-range economy standard, and the wine selection poor. It was a great relief to get on an Asiana flight (also economy) from Incheon to Manila, which was significantly better on all counts than AC s-called 'Premium'.

[@lost-prototype]

Amazing video and great work. Would love tips, trying to slowly start my own air travel KZbin!

[@tscaring]

Hot drink no lid can end up in your lap if person decides to put their seat back it happened to me a uncomfortable trip

[@ODX_Animation]

I really enjoy Air Canada's 787 for international routes. The planes are clean, the entertainment selection is broad, and I always find the crew very friendly. It's also nice they have a few staff who speak the language of the arrival destination (Cantonese for Hong Kong, Arabic for the Dubai route, and German for the Germany/Austria flights). They've revamped their food, which was mediocre before but looks good now. They could still be far better. The turnaround times are the biggest issue. And there's nothing that solicits a "wow!" when flying them. They're above average, but nothing to write home about.

[@Lefaid]

I respect the fact that you seem to truly enjoy airline food!

[@michaelfotoshop]

Yeah in Canada.. our airlines selection are so slim picking. Also thank you for the honest review. We need more / better competition. I mean in General North America Airlines service just blah.

[@irinaklimenko2430]

Very interesting video, thank you! It's so unusual to see snow in Toronto these past few winters. Your flight must have come to Toronto during one of roughly 5 days last winter when we actually had the snow:) Safe travels!