Bryan Alvarez essay: How Vince Russo KILLED WCW IN 2000 (From "The Death Of WCW" AudioBook)

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[@simonletch9315]

Hearing Bryan spend nearly two hours talking about WCW stupidity in a calm manner, not going into a rant. That is kinda weird.

[@stevenman013]

Haha, you can hear him holding it in a few times during this.

[@Simouno]

Well he was just reading a transcript for the book, so you know he had to restrain some more NSFW thoughts

[@EvanSchatz]

Gotta be a professional if you're ever gonna get a GOLD BOAT

[@timothygarcia1682]

You can get the book from audible

[@NintendoPsycho]

Bryan is a trained monkey.

[@stutheironman]

This whole audiobook is pretty sweet. Been listening to it while heading to sleep for years now

[@miggyd9542]

Is it on KZbin at all? Or would one have to get it from audible or something?

[@stutheironman]

Not sure about KZbin. I have the audiobook from Audible personally

[@miggyd9542]

@@stutheironman ahh I see, I have read the book a few times but had no clue there was also an audiobook!

[@nataliescholz6837]

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[@coreylineberry8557]

At least for the 10th anniversary version, the book's Audible-exclusive.

[@thatpart]

I have read this book six or seven times in the last few years. I'd never heard any of the audiobook version. This was fantastic. Thanks!

[@85futureshock]

The one good thing we can say is Tony Khan learned what Dixie Carter and the bosses of WCW never learned. Vince Russo is a conman and he has said he would never hire him.

[@stephenjones1488]

Khan is khanman too lol.

[@mcomiskey7]

Let's hope that he keeps his word, i don't watch AEW that often but if Russo got his hands on it then I'd definitely not watch.

[@mwcarolina]

Hopefully Khan keeps his word. If Russo took over, Danielson would wrestle 3 minute matches

[@rampageclover9788]

@@mwcarolina If Russo took over, DB wouldn't be there....because he'd only work with guys who stand out and aren't skinny, pasty white little 5ft nothing nudnik's...AEW is wank...

[@mwcarolina]

@@rampageclover9788 Russo doesn’t like the wrestling part of wrestling. He’s about the story

[@Fujisaur]

Im not even a business man and I could have run this better. Even the Simplist shit was so hard for them. Like how do you not think to make more merch for a Canadian star in Canada?!

[@ronniejdio9411]

I think they.missed the boat w bischoffs return. Eric needed like 3 guys to be his guys. Russo had several of his guys. Then you just Do weekly programming w guys eventually siding w russos crew or Eric's crew. Then you have flair return and he hates both so he scoops up all the guys who hate both and you have 3 crews. It certainly was more interesting than anything else Russo did

[@MadmanXXVII]

People will actually defend Russo after hearing all this. You can't fix stupid.

[@NintendoPsycho]

There are people who defend Uncle Dave and Alveraz. Stupid still.

[@ajver19]

This sounds like Bryan's reading a bedtime story

[@goldenserenity2385]

Many in the business - Flair, Nash, Bischoff, Russo and others have already stated that WCW was dead due to the merger and behind the scenes, nothing to do with Bischoff or Russo

[@press_x_tojason]

Yes, I'm sure Bischoff and Russo defended Bischoff and Russo. But the merger was only going to kill it because it wasn't even a potentially profitable venture anymore. Which was due to the low quality of the TV product, which was attracting fewer than 1% of viewers to actually buy the PPVs, meanwhile the company had tens of millions of dollars in committed costs in the next few years.

[@Wurzelknecht]

The merger only meant that Nitro lost its TV slot on TNT. But the shitty booking made sure that the WCW brand was so run down, that no other station would be willing to pick it up, as they lost like 60 million in the last year alone. Had Eric been able to get a new TV deal, he and his media group would've bought WCW before Vince could. But since he couldn't get one, his financial backers backed out of the deal and Eric was forced to let it go.

[@tafua_a]

Here's the thing: had WCW been profitable, would the things that led to the trigger being pulled have actually happened? It's like having to put down a sick puppy, and maintaining that the puppy's death wasn't because of the illness, but because of the vet who put the dog down.

[@wrestlingfan31100]

Bryan sounds like he's reading from a little kid's book and handling it quite well as a matter of fact

[@jedite7503]

This was one of the more interesting parts of WCW history, especially with the reboot of WCW. Unfortunately the concept of that was hobbled by bad execution and mismanagement. The shows were a microcosm of the company at that point. I find myself watching old WCW as a guilty pleasure where as bad as WCW was, it was never boring.

[@Simouno]

Yeah that Nitro Reboot episode was really the best WCW show in months, maybe years, such a shame they had no plans for a proper follow-up. It could have had ton of potential

[@jedite7503]

@@Simouno One of the problems during the New Blood vs Millionaire's Club angle was that there was no kind synergy in the angle. It went the approach of Crash TV and throw guys out there with no long term plan. That's why matches were overbooked and the matches were short with trying to get as many from the roster on the TV show. For every one decent angle, there were 10 bad ones.

[@e2go]

Wrestling in 2023 is a parody of itself and a cringefest. No one will care enough in 20 years to watch it as a guilty pleasure.

[@Biffo316]

Complaining about Awesome ripping the door off the cage but I wonder did he complain about Kane doing the same in 97?

[@Truexfan2279]

23:52, I had never heard that before. How thoughtful of Arquette to donate all that money to Hart and Pillman’s and Drozdov’s families

[@plcthelegacy4131]

Goldberg vs Warrior? *Shivers*

[@_sabathia_5929]

40 second match, simultaneously “go home”

[@tafua_a]

@@_sabathia_5929 To be fair, those 40 seconds have potential.

[@traviskarnes6825]

The latter days of WCW is rather interesting from the in-ring to the back backstage turmoil of multiple factions jostling for position to the very end.

[@evilgenius1380]

Its amazing hearing wht happened behind-the-scenes.. Wow, great work telling this story.. Love wrestling.. Love all u wrestlers

[@vincesmith2499]

I still don't know why Hogan lay down for Sting @ Halloween Havoc.

[@StrongBalloonChris]

To say I love this book is an understatement

[@supergravy6104]

I always forget that they actually signed Nailz. That's got to be about as stupid as anything else they did lol. At least the bookers had the good sense to not use him.

[@AdamGalloper]

1:29:36 that story is CLASSIC WCW

[@vincesmith2499]

Beth Flair was David's stepmom, not his mother.

[@shane-irish]

Good listen i perfer too listen then read i have the death off wcw book but just no time to read it love wrestling audio books easyier to listen too

[@miggyd9542]

I’ve been watching some WCW in 2000 and honest to god January to March was the worst I have ever seen. TNA at its worst did not come close. All coinciding with the WWF’s best month leading with the Cactus vs HHH feud

[@robkearsy2995]

& that was when Kevin Sullivan was booking. Look I'm not sucking off Russo but October 99 to January 2000 the ratings were holding in the 3's. The January 10th 2000 Nitro got a 4.1 in the final quarter hour.

[@urbanentertainmentgodz]

Thnx 4 uploading

[@davidian2.024]

WCW was so shit when it was Berlyn and the wall and crowbar & Daphne ...David flair ...David Arquette...just atrocious

[@cb3648]

The berlyn gimmick wasn't so bad, they just used that schindlers list sounding theme so everyone immediately thought it was a nazi gimmick, if only they had just used a knockoff of du hast or something like that.

[@e2go]

Yeah, it was so much better when Hulk Hogan was selling for Jay Leno or when the Yeti and Dungeon of Doom were running shit. Oh, wait, no it wasn't. It was complete dog shit.

[@sonicheroxd5767]

Brad Siegel sounds just as incompetent as Dixie Carter was. Putting WAY too much trust in Vince Russo for some weird reason only they themselves know, and much to the chagrin of everyone else in the company. And that trust cost them BIG TIME.

[@BreadFred3]

WCW was severely damaged, within, by Bischoff by the end of 1998 according to Bryan Alvarez. By 2000, there was no hope of saving it or "resetting it" according to Russo which was his plan but WCW was severely in-debt while its parent company did not care for it.

[@rachelknightonline]

24:13 arquette is a class act

[@jerranspearman3369]

good video

[@Simouno]

Thanks

[@PhillyCYOSports]

Remarkable.

[@brianpowers3742]

Please upload the whole thing?

[@mcomiskey7]

I'd love to hear more.

[@axelerhate9705]

Buy the book

[@mcomiskey7]

I have the book.

[@mattmaverick3602]

I also would love to hear more and I actually bought the book...twice...and I rarely every buy books...in fact, if he read more, I'd probably buy the book a third time lol

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

I keep having to remind myself that this all really happened while listening to this.

[@theguy1233]

Can you upload the whole audio book please

[@Simouno]

You can get it for free on Audible 😉

[@TheHannibalTV]

👽

[@traviskarnes6825]

Hannibal do you have the footage where Kevin Sullivan talks, about the set amount that WCW sold for? He had an interesting take on all that.

[@antoneg9201]

Never knew how much Russo was involved in killing my favorite wrestling program.

[@robkearsy2995]

He wasn't The Turner executives wanted WCW off their networks. Actually go look at Nitro Guy Evans did actual research this was a bunch of smarks giving their opinion.

[@MattSingh1]

@@robkearsy2995 *The Nitro book is B.S, it's an attempt to rewrite the history of WCW so Maggot Bischoff doesn't look like a total clown. Both Alvarez and Meltzer were journalists covering WCW at the time, not someone like Evans who came along twenty years later and interviewed clueless Turner executives who can't remember anything from twenty years ago. Morons like you are the epitome of internet smark douche bags as you think you know better than Alvarez and Meltzer.*

[@TheJSexton24]

@@robkearsy2995 this book is rumors and more of a hit piece

[@johnmarcus317]

Awesome, thx

[@urbanentertainmentgodz]

Thnx for posting

[@redmagejack]

54:08 Oh, now I wouldn’t say that…

[@catchcan221]

WCW was done before Vinny Ru.

[@412StepUp]

The thing is even late 2000/2001 WCW is still better than almost all of wrestling on tv today.

[@rickhaavisto9023]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@TRIGMASTER06]

I’m sorry but even the Hogan haters can’t blame him for not wanting to put Billy Kidman over clean do me a favour.

[@markfinch6794]

Where did they get their numbers and figures as WCW was a part of a conglomerate...

[@chriswarfield7520]

Haahaha they had "the genius" Lanny Poffo and did NOTHING with him!?

[@vincesmith2499]

I hate Russo.

[@Waynes-Way]

So aol/timer warner merger, who didn’t want wrestling in their portfolio at all, had nothing to do with but a writer! Makes sense

[@sleazyfellow]

If WCW turned a profit and made monster ratings they'd of never let it go. But when they came on with the merger it was already on it's downward slope.

[@Waynes-Way]

sleazyfellow as per DDP, it was already the highest rated show on their network!

[@chooseyouhandle]

The merger would have killed it no matter what but that doesn't excuse how awful wcw had become. If you enjoyed the Russo shows, well good for you.

[@Waynes-Way]

Arrhidaios Pydnaean that’s my point exactly

[@robertridley9279]

@@sleazyfellow that's what I was thinking. WCW lost millions of dollars right around the time of the merger, so of course they wanted to cut bait.

[@Alanthe918mobilemechanic]

Who else here cause they hate vinny roo

[@michaelkeller5927]

Bro...

[@SGTSAM101ST]

As much as we rag on Russo... He was at least trying, but he needed a filter for his booking ideas

[@unknownalias8098]

Sometimes, life isn't a lesson, and you just fail.

[@e2go]

Yeah, McMahon has been a great job filtering the last couple decades as the product became worse and worse.

[@bonnie3447]

How does Bryan know all this if he wasn't there in person.

[@robkearsy2995]

Cause it's all him & RD Reynolds opinion. Guy Evans actually did research.

[@goldenserenity2385]

@@robkearsy2995 Guy Evans book is definitely well researched with facts

[@MattSingh1]

@@robkearsy2995 *The Evans book is a pathetic attempt to rewrite history in favour of Maggot Bischoff, a proven habitual liar.*

[@vincesmith2499]

Uh, the NBA Playoffs start before June. There are a lot of errors in this essay.

[@j.3o21]

The real problem with WCW 2000, was Jeff Jarrett. He was so much go away heat, i couldnt stand him, snd not in a good way.

[@NicolasBowling]

I know I’m alone here lol but I actually liked Ready to Rumble.

[@Grejb444]

Normally don't agree with Russo but he was 100% right. When I was a kid I wanted that match so bad!

[@Guanaco17]

Warrior vs Goldberg? To me that is a cursed match. Neither of them can wrestle. But I don't blame you. When we are kids we think stupid ideas are good ideas.

[@blueprint7]

@@Guanaco17 oh look another Russo hater twisting themselves into a knot

[@perfectblindguy]

The Russo led WCW did better ratings that AEW is doing right now...scary, huh?

[@rickhaavisto9023]

Wait, the number 2 company during the hottest wrestling period of all time had better ratings than the #2 now? Not to mention how many homes lose cable every year

[@matt92550]

You're comparing it to ratings from more than 20 years ago. TV was so different back then, there wasn't a lot of options like now. So many tv shows ratings today would pale in comparison to wcw in 2000.

[@Terrythetroll.]

44:00 🔖

[@Terrythetroll.]

13:00 🔖

[@L_Train]

someone show aew this so they can hear what happens when you book for your smark fanbase and not a general audience

[@vincesmith2499]

Raw was pre-empted for U.S. Open tennis on Aug. 28, 2000, airing instead at 11 p.m. EDT. The dog show was in February. Get your f'ing facts straight.

[@josephcavey5128]

What a baby Goldberg was and Hogan and what unprofessional behavior by the announcers all making great money no wonder they went out of buissness

[@bb-gc2tx]

imagine wanting to be part of the wrestling business so bad as a wrestler like alvarez did and failing to even come close and your entire life becomes over analyzing and reporting on what guys 20 years younger than you are doing at work pretty patthetic 🤣

[@MattSingh1]

*What a total prick you are. Typical internet smark douchebag that thinks he knows better than leading expert analysts.*

[@glenncanning8189]

Why can’t Bryan pronounce renege correctly? Couldn’t one of the audio engineers, or anyone really, give him a clue? It’s an audiobook, come on! Great stuff in this, though.

[@vincesmith2499]

Russo is a lot like Trump when it comes to being delusional and making false claims.

[@michaelkeller5927]

Looking forward to hearing the final days of the death of WWE.

[@ravensflockmate]

HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA See you 100 years from now

[@chadk890]

Their a billion dollar company you clown. 🤡