The Fall of the Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) Series

In this video, we go into a deep discussion on how the Pro Evolution Soccer series has fallen behind FIFA in the last 10 to 15 years. From EA's mega marketing strategy to lack of improvement in the PES games, we deep dive into what made PES and what may have killed PES. If you like this video, please, comment and subscribe, and don't forget to hit the notification button so you never miss another video.
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[@dawidklucz849]

PES 2 to 6 its a Golden Era of virtual,realistic football !!!! People around the world grew up with PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER REVOLUTION

[@uchiha4668]

When they started to become like fifa that’s when the fall started ...

[@Mr-LionYT]

True

[@manuelch101]

Exactly right. If you focus on copying your rival. You’ll always be in second place.

[@garryrptr]

That's what the fans loved about PES, being the opposite of fifa

[@Kris_1708]

Just like when battlefield try to become COD

[@rabbimakume9946]

i still play PES 2021. . .its the best out of all the PES games. . .Master League. . .,You wil never get bored

[@drwang4884]

I still play 21 and occasionally 17 and 18. 24 is really good so far but without master league there’s no reason to play it

[@allusion_813]

Great video, when i saw it only had 354 views I had to check this video out. You put a lot of time into it and gave some good points, all the best from Bosnia.

[@bryezer6348]

Thank you. When I have more free time, I do plan on doing more videos like this!

[@algebraicgamer4522]

I played PES from 2016 to now. I can confidently say I would rather play the offline versions of PES2016, 17, 18, and 19 over crappy eFootball. Both PES and FIFA used to be amazing games but both of them got much worse battling each other. Typing this as I play PES2019

[@1989worms1]

PES 6 is my favorite PES game of all time because it's the most patched game in PES history!

[@TruthNowX99]

I still feel pes is better than fifa. got fifa 23 last year, and within a couple months I was back on pes21. to me it's the best football game ever.

[@AW-kr9fl]

PES 6 was the best football game ever. One feature I wish football games would bring back is being able to play an 11 v 11 match in training mode

[@A_Petit_TV]

Next gen after PS2 killed them.... they tried something new...and failed soooo hard unfortunately...

[@timothycaxtondanjuma3690]

PES had ps2 on lockdown

[@davidofportugal6795]

Konami is used to great for making awesome PES, now it and EA cares about money.

[@bryezer6348]

Exactly man

[@Bluntburnatr888]

I can’t remember but the pes with Rooney zlatan early Messi was great. How they did their stats for the players was great. I miss that game

[@DavidLucian]

My favourite PES games of the Franchise especially from the old but gold Era of PS2 are PES 4, 5 and 6... 🤷🏻‍♂️✌️

[@1989worms1]

PES lost the UEFA and CONMEBOL club competitions to FIFA and they were fun to play in PES, I prefer playing UEFA EURO in FIFA then PES because PES is messing it up since 2016 while in FIFA, UEFA EURO looks more complete. I just can't play these modern FIFA and PES games because they aren't fun anymore and that's why I prefer playing PES 5 and 6 because they were fun!

[@alenfora1400]

Played it on ps1 and ps2 and fifa couldnt even came close but they fucked it up

[@galaxy0339]

Pro Evo 5 is still being played online today. Will eFootball still be remembered, 15 years from now?

[@gabrielsa9751]

The most popular football game in brazil for a decade, bomba patch, is actually just a pirate pes 6 mod, and its just surreal its by far the most fun football game to play, the ridiculous stats every player in the brazileirão, the songs, the freedom, Pes tried to be fifa when they should be trying to be bomba patch Ps, its still great, with a new version being released every month 100% ATUALIZADO

[@anso5510]

pes from 2010 until 2013 was way better than fifa but i think pes 2014 was the fall of pes until 2017 comes out

[@DJYunkHank]

I remember my first pes was pes 4 and I played pes until pes 10 when I switched halfway through the year to FIFA 10 world cup

[@alicanteSie]

Man Pes 2011 and 2013 are the best whatever Fifa did was not on the same level

[@BAIRN1876]

PES 11 WAS A DISGRACE!!!!!!

[@alicanteSie]

@@BAIRN1876 Compared to the level of the other games at the time it was amazing , graphics wise and gameplay was realistic. PES 2013 is an upgrade for the same game. FIFA 2011 was like a cartoon , players sliding like physics dont exist

[@ryansedgwick24]

Pes was the WCW of the football games

[@nugo1641]

Pes 11,12,13 where the best. After 2014 it all went downhill. Why the fuck would they remove so many futures in master league.

[@nugo1641]

Pes 15 and 16 where decent and pes 18 was good but 11,12,13 were masterpieces (For a football game )

[@bryezer6348]

Never understood why they removed so many features.

[@mustafajuventino9964]

I've been playing PES regularly since PES 3 and I agree with you 100%, the amount of features they removed from PES both gameplay and options is crazy, can you believe that in PES 3 players could get head injury and continue playing with a head bandage? they also removed classic national teams, a lot of extras, stadiums, balls etc you name it

[@anastasiosliagkris576]

Fox engine killed the game we all love... Bring PES back to life guys... If anyone is listening in Japan, we are still craving for a realistic football simulator, not the bombastic EA/FIFA phoney, monetized horseshit... I will be praying for a miracle to happen, and for the guys of KONAMI to do the right thing, that is, to restore the king of football simulators back to its throne...

[@edwardmerriam6970]

Don't forget about 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa, a FIFA game that puts both modern FIFA (now EAFC) and PES games to shame. That game was based on the old World Cup format but VASTLY improved on it by adding most of the qualifying rounds, 199 teams (all featuring real players and likeness), lots of stadiums, improved on FIFA 10's gameplay (an already great game), an improved Captain Your Country mode, the online FIFA World Cup/Battle of the Nations feature, "Story of Qualifying" (which itself was partially based on an old PES feature), one of the best sports game soundtracks ever, a great UI, and overall just a hugely replayable game. It was the passion project of the late great Simon Humber who sadly passed away of cancer in 2015. That was the moment EA Sports "won" the war.

[@klipk7296]

5:09 im dying... the penguin...

[@andrewgraham6339]

Not too sure? Konami never really invested in it and just let the standards drop over the years. I hear FIFA are looking for new developers for the FIFA series so maybe Konami can throw their hat in the ring?

[@BAIRN1876]

Pes 11 was the start of the downfall.

[@alenfora1400]

Main problem is Konami because they own mgs, silent hill, castlevania and nothing...

[@dragokk2034]

R.I.P PES 😑

[@Here_it_is_bro]

The thing is that pes lacks inovation

[@asdprogram]

this static noise is too loud

[@TheKreator98]

Holy hell. This was a fantastic video man. Good stuff. PES definitely has the potential to surpass FIFA for sure.

[@bryezer6348]

For sure it definitely does, the game can be great. Hope to see some content from you soon my guy. Thanks

[@Riceisgood777]

PES alrdy surpasses FIFA since FIFA 2018, FIFA went trash after 18 If we talk gameplay wise

[@bryezer6348]

@@Riceisgood777 You are very correct. In the video I do say that PES is definitely on its way back to the TOP mainly because of EA's lack of interest

[@Riceisgood777]

@@bryezer6348 I just reached that part of the vid when you said that x). Just getting into PES and trying PES20 lite on PC and get later 21 when its released.

[@bryezer6348]

@@Riceisgood777 PES 2020 is an OK game but I hope PES 2021 improves some of the big problems in PES 2020 like player switching.

[@michealkelly1414]

Your right about the Fall of PES, PES used to be Good, but your wrong about FIFA, FIFA has always been bad, even to this day.

[@galaxy0339]

PES used to be good in mid 2000's... we still play PES 4, 5 and 6 ONLINE in 2023. Wanna join us?

[@michealkelly1414]

@@galaxy0339 I don't think I have them games anymore, Im a Console peasant 😂, I've given up on football and sports games and just play Single player games these day, but thanks anyway for the invite, anyway who's the top players in them games? Zidane, dell peiro and Nedved, ah the good old days.

[@galaxy0339]

@@michealkelly1414 you can still play with us in case you wanted to. Of the default players, Gerrard has the highest overall ratio in PES 5. Zidane is one of the strongest too. Pirlo isn't that strong stats wise, but he makes the difference definitely.

[@michealkelly1414]

Out of curiosity, I looked up pes 5 player database, how is stevie G Gerrard got better stats than Zidane 🤣 still loved them games.

[@michealkelly1414]

@@galaxy0339 why what do you play the games on? pirlo DM Playmaker, that's what I used ti love about PES, also playing with big target CFs like Ibrahimovic and fellini from Everton , can't get that in FIFA were it is who's the fastest player is the best player.

[@WuCSquad]

4:18 Change your smoke alarm batteries please.

[@Black-mz4wy]

he's black lol

[@Phicxtion]

If only TIF had lasted. It was far better than FIFA and almost comparable to PES.

[@ogome2927]

ahhh bro it seems like pes is offically dead with pes 2022, so disappointed man lol

[@bryezer6348]

I can’t believe it man.

[@ogome2927]

@@bryezer6348 i really can't believe it too man, very excited but now disappointed with this shit series

[@Joker-yu5kp]

9:14😂😂😂 was it a glitch? fiffffa 15 fiffffffa 16

[@Fruittypebbles-f5u]

PES is so much more realistic , In everyway , That as a soccer fan should be the most important thing when deciding what to play , fifa for me is a cartoon

[@trumpameri1638]

PES 13 legend 💪💪💪

[@hexy_0o308]

Brotha you need to change that mic

[@SuperRnine]

Initially PES was so much better than Fifa when it came out and was for so many years but Ffifa took so many stuff from PES and then adopted the PES formula to not invent the game each time instead just tweak and polish.

[@UlugbekOchilov-i6g]

Pes 2017 ❤

[@matthewdaisley9996]

PES 1,2,3,4,5 and 8 are all better football games than EVERY FIFA GAME from 94-24

[@trumpameri1638]

PES 14 and KOJIMA FOX engine was completely disaster... garbage game and this is the point PRO EVO SOCCER game start to RIP

[@bryanskinner1332]

Well said brother

[@vaevictis_]

8:55 CHIRP

[@dommidavros2211]

Are you kidding me???? You have "hope" for pes 2022??? 😂😂 That was the worst pile of crap of ALL TIME! Absolute dogshit as with EVERY ONE of their games since 2021!! 🤬

[@mohammad-karbalaee]

I love pes 2014

[@5thdawg917]

PES was the greatest games in the 00s. PES 3,4 & 6 were revolutionary. Pes5 they kinda ruined it. Everyone around that time know Pes was the best. Anyone that shoots with Square button on PlayStation on fifa was originally a Pes player

[@galaxy0339]

PES 5 is incredibly deep. We still play it online.

[@kyledamonze8739]

​@galaxy0339 how can you play online?

[@Kerwinnn]

Current PES gameplay is way ahead of FIFA

[@bryanskinner1332]

Not happened to pes it was always 💩 hence the reason you go in store locally and you must see fifa they don’t even order pes because sales are slow 2021 version on mobile and consol crap imagine having all that technology in a game dedicated to the oppressiveness of the users i am telling I will never rate pes it’s not enjoyable for a game with all those features and abundance of nights updating

[@27scole]

It was always kind of full of shit.

[@bryezer6348]

What game PES or FIFA?

[@bryanskinner1332]

Pes is craaaaap

[@davesufci1929]

your mom is

[@davesufci1929]

you mom is craaaap

[@javier09876]

Pes has never been better than fifa 😂 💀 One year of fifa ultimate team has made more money than all of pes history.

[@pafoneto1275]

More money ≠ better game

[@javier09876]

@@pafoneto1275 better money = more purchases = more buyers = more people like it = more people want it. Less money = people who got it one year saw how shit it was didn’t buy it again unless u have shit taste.

[@pafoneto1275]

@@javier09876 yes, but still: More money ≠ better game

[@javier09876]

@@pafoneto1275 hahaha so clearly u have that shit taste. Nice to know. Feel sorry for you.