BSB2020: Irwin and Brookes collide causing a hideously fast crash!!

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UPDATE: Andrew Irwin has been disqualified from the race for "avoidable/unfair contact causing a collision/crash with Josh Brookes. Irwin also receives 6 penalty points, 3 of which are suspended for the duration of the 2020 season."

[@robh952]

Once again shown what a liability he is!!

[@noutubenamesleft]

@@robh952 How is he a liability. This is racing, that was a clear change for a take. If it hadn't been a bike who's owner has so much pull I guarentee he wouldn't of been penalised.

[@kRazyyyyyyy]

And zarco only gets a longlap... 😅

[@sylvandespres7654]

well done,i'd give him a warning that,if ever he gets back at this again he'll be banned for ever.

[@sylvandespres7654]

@@kRazyyyyyyy then,marquez always run free of anything with that kind of shit all the time.

[@geoffking6015]

If Josh was honest he would admit that he was not expecting Andrew to pass , when he did it spooked him. Check Josh,s right foot as Andrew passed him.

[@nickrad6966]

Yeah turning in at 130mph+ and not expecting a bike on the line does have that effect!

[@MarkSiosal]

That's literally what he said.

[@therealslimshady4555]

The 2 Irwin brothers made that race meeting. It would of been a dull as ditch water without them. 😍

[@Yamaprilia]

EVERYBODY PLEASE WATCH THIS AGAIN AT 25% PLAYBACK SPEED. ITS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE EVER HEARD LOL

[@justmark1976]

I've been looking at it and to me it looks like Brookes' steps out and he grabs it which steers him in to Irwin who happens to be moving across left at the same time. I now think in my opinion it's a racing accident and no blame for Irwin for this one...

[@davidchadwick1892]

Whitham and Burnicle sound absolutely legless at quarte speed playback oohoo!!!!

[@Focused_Veteran]

😂😂🤣 ah..ah..ah..oooooo deeeeaarrr

[@Formula-125]

It's star wars "nooooooo"

[@Motosapien46]

@@justmark1976 I'm an American MotoGP fan who has never watched BSB before but came across this clip. I agree with you entirely, Brookes spun up the rear and caught it, when he did the front unloaded causing the crash. I argue that there wasn't even contact between the two! Even if there where it wasn't enough to cause the crash. It's a bad call to give such a harsh penalty of so many points against his license. I don't know if Irwin was in the fight for the championship but this would end the run for most riders.

[@davidchadwick1892]

I remember Brookes offing Michael Rutter at Cadwell. This is a case of the biter , Brookes, getting bit. Unfair to disqual Irwin

[@fatbobandy9670]

Brooks has fetched off more than a few . Guintoli and richards

[@gaztl1000s]

@@fatbobandy9670 totally wrecked Sylvain season,and could easily have ended his career,

[@jackchallis9456]

Yeah i remember the rutter one, that was a harsh move and rutter broke ribs because he had to drop the bike hard to avoid broadsiding. Do you remember the one at Mallory park i think, where Josh got it massively wrong on braking to a tight hairpin and took out about 6 bikes?

[@davecooper3238]

I remember that. Also the TV interview that Brookes gave after the race. Where he said he had threatened Rutter for a number of laps before knocking him off. He appeared to say it's perfectly OK to threaten. That if the other chap is not cowed by threats then he should expect to be knocked down. If that had happened were I worked the perp would have been subject to instant dismissal. Brookes kept his job.

[@johnhassall1782]

What about brooks nearly ending silvan guantolis career at Donnington on the warmup lap! Shit happens in racing 🏁

[@JayGee6996]

If you watch it at 0.25 speed you can see the crash happens mainly because Josh gives it beans and his back end comes out, he likely then backs off the throttle which is what unsettles his bike and makes him fall off. If Andy wasn't there he'd have had more room to correct it but at the same time if Andy wasn't there Josh wouldn't have give it a handful of gas. Definitely not a race ban imo, not even close.

[@c4rr7gr4n7]

Brookes had lost his bike and couldn't avoid the collision with Andy, it was Brookes mistake but When the birdy sits in the same nest as the higgs then the outcome is never going to go Andies way.

[@francisblair1345]

Spot on David...Honda need to come out and back their riders up. This is a carry-over from Andrew's accident with Redding.

[@tartanguy8714]

When I saw this live I personally thought it was a bit optimistic for Irwin to try and pass at that corner, considering Brookes wasn't all that wide, not that I'm defending Brookes because he has previous (see Cadwell and Mallory Park incidents). I can also see from the point of Stuart Higgs (race Director) for saying it was avoidable, as Irwin seemed to be able to pass at 3 other parts of the track without causing another rider to crash.

[@nxthxniel7348]

I’m coming back to this 2 months on, why did Irwin get DSQd for this?

[@jjrockershaft]

Imagine going head to head into a bend with andy Irwin!!!

[@Husasmith]

door left open...............

[@Coltwins]

i doesn't look like there is any contact between them, Brookes got spooked and lost it all on his own...That was a bad decision by BSB... If you make all the bikes as equal as possible as in BSB this will happen, or the bikes will run around nose to tail like F1.. I hope Andy goes on to blitz the races, his move was hard and unexpected, not dangerous and wild as it has been made out...

[@bremCZ]

You just watched a clip in which Andy himself says he felt the contact.

[@Coltwins]

@@bremCZ very true, but was the contact before or after Brookes folded the front? looking at the video I would say afterwards...I'm not a steward so my opinion makes no difference, but I think it was a racing incident, Irwin races hard as does Josh if the roles were reversed I am sure Josh would have gone for the gap...It was very unfortunate, I had £20 on Brookes to be champ...

[@bremCZ]

@@Coltwins It was clearly before the front folded. And I absolutely agree it was a racing incident. That's entirely beside the point of whether or not there was contact though.

[@francisblair1345]

Spot on Colin.

[@DC94359]

@@Coltwins have you eye's in your head?

[@dean7703]

Brooke's says it right these things happen and I do feel the penalty is a tad harsh but I herd that Andy Irwin said hed put anyone on the grass bar his brother between race 2 and 3 and I do feel saying things like that and last years incidents certainly havent helped his case here

[@catalyst7460]

Oh my gosh dude

[@TuneSkatingYT]

Josh had lost the front end already completely unfair for Andrew...

[@johnoriordan7419]

Lost the front that lunatic irwin will kill someone

[@TuneSkatingYT]

If they even made contact it was light the ducatis obviously are having issues with the front end. He didn't have a great line he left Irwin a chance to pass and he took it it was a racing incident. If they keep this up BSB will be no more!

[@boxhead7180]

@@TuneSkatingYT I'd hardly call that a chance. I like hard racing as much as the next bloke, but that was just plain dangerous.

[@nickrad6966]

Lost the front? Brookes rode into him as he didn't expect him to be there, looks like he knocked his front brake lever.

[@gaztl1000s]

@@nickrad6966 but he's meant to have a guard to stop that from happening, the only way would be if Brookes lent on him and he pulled his own brake on

[@WomacksRideTechandFitness]

Where is the right front break level guard on the Ducati...

[@steveone9375]

Glad your OK josh but remember malory Park,,, what goes round comes round

[@MarkSiosal]

Mate...that was 12 bloody years ago. He's had karma since then. This was Andy Irwin being a tool. Totally avoidable.

[@davidcunningham-silman475]

I don't mean to do these things ? Remember what Scott Redding said.! Andrew need's to be careful other wise someone going to get mess up..

[@francisblair1345]

Scott Redding is not saint...look how wide he run Toprak and JR when he 'overtook' both of them. Any wider and they would have ended up outside the stadium.

[@sihartobing9570]

Just Badluck, .... God Bless All, ..... Cheerio.🌠👍👍👍🌠🌠🌟🌠🌠.

[@noutubenamesleft]

Justifiable overtake. Had easily more speed out of red gate and a better line. Unfortunate but doesn't deserve to be pinged for that.

[@justmark1976]

I'm not sure the penalty is justified, need some different angles. There was movement from the Ducati when Irwin was alongside but with clear gap between them, contact looks light and to me the twitch from the Ducati sends it right as Irwin is moving to left and they collide. Racing accident? Brookes walked away so it was a good day!

[@shifterbbr1986]

Irwin had the inside line plain and simple, brookes moved over and hit him.

[@raynic1173]

Not true, Irwin crossed into Brookes' line, watch in slo-mo from 0:27. Just before he shows Brookes a wheel his suspension is actually pumping and he's not "totally in control". As he crosses in front of Brookes, Brookes lifts, and his suspension starts to pump, which causes his elbow to hit Irwin and then go down.

[@davecooper3238]

I have watched the clip a number of times. Did Brookes try to nudge Irwin which went wrong. Then whinge about it. Blaming Irwin for the result of his own action. I remember Cadwell & the TV interview that Brookes gave after the race. Where he said he had threatened Rutter for a number of laps before knocking him off. He appeared to say it's perfectly OK to threaten. That if the other chap is not cowed by threats then he should expect to be knocked down. If that had happened were I worked the perp would have been subject to instant dismissal. Brookes kept his job.

[@MarkSiosal]

Where did Brookes whinge about it? "I didn't expect him to pass there.....these things happen" sounds pretty bloody sporting to me.

[@JHa77am]

100% racing incident. Ducati team pay for the damage done to their bike. That’s what happens in racing. You should know Joshua. You’ve done it to others enough.

[@francisblair1345]

Spot on mate.

[@mylessharman2493]

The DQ was harsh, Andy's boot looked like it clipped Josh's elbow or handle bar end causing the twitch in the handle bars, enough too cause the crash, there was a line for Andy, just really bad timing, caused them to touch,

[@timoschneider7030]

I still don't know about this one. From one perspective it's looks like a firm but fair racing incident, from another you could say a risky move like that may be acceptable in club racing, but not top level superbike racing. Also can't help but think f it wasn't Andy with his reputation from last year, it may have been let go. I'm still on the fence...

[@francisblair1345]

This is a carry over from last season's tangle with Redding...by the way, i have never, ever seen anyone overtake the way Redding overtook Toprak andJR in the Jerez race. I mean, just how wide do you push another rider? And he had the temerity to say re. JR ...'he's ok...he doesn't make too many dirty moves'. What a twat he is.

[@edescastro2066]

Melhor e mais emocionante que F1

[@ABM261-zi2gl]

He actually lost the front end less than a second before the crash. I disagree with the penalty.

[@stuarthall2523]

About time the muzzles came off!

[@martynflynn8368]

Too right, had enough of this nonsense.

[@Desmo904]

@@martynflynn8368 Yeah, who cares if folks are dying up and down all over the UK? If that's all you have to complain about then you have nothing to complain about.

[@martynflynn8368]

@@Desmo904 I dont know a single person who has had it and every single person I have asked does not know anyone either. A virus so deadly you need to be tested for it, yeah right. Oh and if you would care to look on your pack of masks (as no doubt you must have a huge stockpile) you might read: "this mask will not protect you from covid 19 or any other viral infection" FACT. YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE IN FEAR BUT DONT DRAG ME INTO IT THANK YOU.

[@Desmo904]

@@martynflynn8368 I well. That settles it then! Over 46,000 dead but YOU don't know anyone.

[@Desmo904]

Do me a favour and ask anyone in a hospital if they think it's a joke.

[@markaspinall1619]

Look from o hallorans veiw irwin moves into brookes

[@markaspinall1619]

Irwin seems to hit most people he trys to pass. Not his worst overtake may be unlucky for being disqualified but he keeps hitting people and thats not good racing..or a good racer.

[@sylvandespres7654]

pretty much it.it sums up what most bsb racers think of him

[@samblack5313]

Fair comment

[@Thomas-us4wq]

Hi @Yosh7mura.. I do subscribe to "britishsuperbike" on youtube. But their content isn't interesting.. Its only teasers etc. It's a bad channel that only works as an advertisement. If you know the makers of the channel please tell them to make their content relevant. - Make them air the training laps on youtube, and I'll be a viewer on every occasion. - Or make them post last years races on the channel.

[@Thomas-us4wq]

@@yesterlife I know, Eurosport would have to approve.. But why not ? if Eurosport also benefits from heightened interest in the sport from the channel actually being watched. Would Eurosport be hurt from releasing last years races on the youtube channel ? I dont think so. Maybe I'm just tired of watching bike-reviews on every youtube motorcycle channel. If anyone would like to recommend a couple of good channels you are most welcome. :)

[@SuperbikeUploader]

@@Thomas-us4wq Im just a random fan with a capture card, I dont have any contacts unfortunately. I'm just trying to introduce BSB to more people (:

[@Thomas-us4wq]

@Andrew Lee Good idea. :) I'll do that.. :)

[@Thomas-us4wq]

@@SuperbikeUploader Good work.. I enjoy your channel. :) .. Me I'm a cheap bastard living in Denmark. We don't have anything like BSB. I would like to watch, but I dont want to subscribe to Eurosport. In fact waching any motorcycle racing (with commentary prefered) is wonderful. Even if it's kids racing Ohvale bikes it's great. Just wish there was more contents like that available on youtube.

[@Thomas-us4wq]

@Andrew Lee Seems they have disabled comments on their channel.

[@justmark1976]

Would like to look at this in slow motion, appears very light contact and there was movement from the Ducati as Irwin got alongside with clear gap between them. Irwin needs to have a long look at his overtaking style and ability before he kills someone. But was the penalty justified in this incident? Jury is still out for me...

[@jjnugen8053]

Brooks was well out of shape before he touched Irwin

[@justmark1976]

@@kylemalcomson5646 difficult to say for sure from that angle, assuming there was a touch Irwin didn't move or wobble at I can see so if there was it was probably nothing.

[@roberty945]

Was definitely clean Andy's skill has gotten way better from last season and it shows top of the game so he is to give a penalty like that is just unfair

[@francisblair1345]

It's not knitting...Brookes has done the same to other riders.

[@davidhunt4307]

Andy has a reputation for doing shit like this so he is always going to get a bad rap anytime incidents like this happen whether he guilty or not until he cleans his racing up I’m afraid

[@danwheeler7293]

So true did the same thing to redding last year weather he had the line or not if you seen the pass Irwin was so far out so just because he was on the inside it was a silly positioned pass 😬😐

[@steveallen961]

That's racing there was definitely a gap ,if your in a battle you can run off line

[@terrytopliss9506]

Don’t particularly like either rider but I think it was a racing accident.

[@TheLiddleBigChannel]

Looked like a hard overtake but Brookes says if he saw Irwin he'd have stood his bike up...well clearly from the footage Brookes did stand his bike up....so Irwin got robbed!

[@theirishninja8199]

How can anyone call that a bad move Screen shot the two as their side by side when they touch all that room Brooks wasn’t ready for the faster rider nothing more or less

[@4g6335r]

Plenty of room for a pass. Gotta be more aware of your surroundings mate.

[@davidcunningham-silman475]

I wonder what will happen if he takes his brother out. I hope not..

[@Ro6entX]

Can't say I agree with the DQ, that looked like a simple/accidental contact; seems like whoever called that had some sort of grudge

[@francisblair1345]

Here we go again..bash an Irish rider. It was a racing incident. And as for that twat Brookes asking 'who is going to pay to fix the bike', well, the answer is simple - the same people who paid for every bike you destroyed. Just watches last weeks MotoGP and there was a similar incident. But here it was deemed by the commentators as a racing incident, and they were outraged when the rider was given a long lap penalty. An exact replica of Andrew's 'incident'. His team should get behind him.

[@bobbythompson3544]

Brooke's panicked and the rest is history!

[@bobbythompson3544]

Did they touch?

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[@hamonryechinaski180]

MAYBE if the idiot who constantly makes moves best seen at an amateur go Kart track 125 race HAD held his hand up...MAYBE if he didn't do it again and again...then MAYBE HRC wouldn't have dropped him like a hot potato. Andrew was Andrews biggest hurdle to get into a top racing outfit and look to WSBK...

[@SuperMm3]

Watch it closly and a couple of times irwin was ahead n brookes was out of shape again ,brooke dont know wen to pull out n adit defeat he was never goin to stick wit andy there

[@doinok1149]

Typical Irwin style

[@FRHYKDd]

Omg that announcer has a stuttering problem. Holy fuck. How many times can one person say "that". Its distracted

[@adamhindle9215]

All day I thought Irwin was going to have someone off, at some point, the way he was riding. Donny is always close but you've gotta wait/line someone up at a relatively safe place. Sticking it down the inside into Hollywood/Craner/Starkeys etc. will always be risky and the crash fast. Irwin just needs to be a bit more professional.

[@Deezenutz27]

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[@annapadovano7833]

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[@cherifblad2613]

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[@Arty11]

Bad pass‼️

[@seanadamson280]

Young Andy's decision making is shite.

[@waynegacyii9010]

Clipping someone's handlebar, when passing from behind , never saw it coming.

[@claywebb8199]

That’s just ridiculous, it was hard to see ANY contact it was that minor. What I did see was Brookes fill his boxers and panic when he realised Irwin was there, not that I blame him but being spooked and falling off isn’t justification for blaming anyone but yourself. Oh plus he’s an Aussie so shouldn’t even be in the race the whining bastard 😂

[@Showmetheevidence-]

That was not a good move... and could’ve easily turned out worse for Brookes! The fact Irwin doesn’t think that was a bad move shows a lot of ignorance I.m.o. (I’m not in favour of either rider either)

[@ukzjwri]

What Would Grant Do Because if you’re going to pass on the inside on a fast corner, it’s your job to avoid clipping the guy outside you. It’s really dangerous.

[@ukzjwri]

What Would Grant Do three of the four riders are taking the wide line. The widest mid-corner was actually Glen Irwin. Only one guy took the inside.

[@samblack5313]

What Would Grant Do I generally class it as ‘not a good move’ if someone ends up on the floor.

[@francisblair1345]

@@badgerman23 So true...but the commentators said it was a racing incident and were outraged when Zarco was 'penalised'. Higgs is a biased asshole.

[@sylvandespres7654]

andrew irwin is involved a little too much in this kind of mayhem. 2 times on redding in 2019,and now brooks.one of these days,someone is going to blow a lead and smash his poker face pretty hard,i believes andrew deserves a good blow just to see if it wouldn't put the loose nut bouncing in its head back in place.

[@frankanstey4555]

It is racing or are we saying no overtaking at the top of crane curves! Enjoy all the guys efforts but anyone remember Josh at Mallory Park!

[@justmark1976]

While we have racing there will be crashes, looks like a legit overtake uf anything Brookes is straying off line. You see Brookes behind Glenn but then as Andy comes past Brookes' line moves inwards towards Andy. If Brookes kept the same line as Glenn Andy would have taken him for sure but Brookes would have been still in the race to chase them down. Those two Honda's are clearly a lot faster than the Ducati.

[@Norton1531]

@@frankanstey4555 You took the words right out of my mouth!!!!! Brookes was a liability when he came into BSB.

[@sylvandespres7654]

pfffft.yeah.ok.and then,what about the overtake on his own bro at the end of the race? he wasn't even able to stop on the corner's entry then hitting the side of glen's bike.exactly as what he did on scott redding at caldwell park in 2019.this guy is simply out of control,especially on corner entries.he misjudge the braking distances,then hit on the bike next to him so he can make it. andrew irwin is a track hazard,as simple as that,multiple proofs of it .

[@terrybrooks7140]

Josh brooks was bloody dangerous at times but he came in for a load of stick especially when he knocked multiple riders down at Mallory but he has got older and wiser but I would say Andrew Erwin is a lot more dangerous through 600s and now in superbikes.we all want to see close racing but he needs calming down before somebody gets seriously injured and nobody wants to see that.

[@chrisgibbs1615]

This guy irwin has a history of bumping into other riders, look at last season, he should be banned, great to see Brooks is OK could so easily been a more serious out come especially at that speed, I was at Oulton Park last year when he ruined Christian idons race and at the race where he took out Scott reading, like I say ban him the Irish twit is a danger to all the other riders he's fast but rides like no one else is on the track and does not care about there safety

[@theirishninja8199]

😂banned for making a clean overtake the person in front just wasn’t ready for 👌stay off the roads

[@chrisgibbs1615]

He ran wide in the process, end of that's why he starts the next race from the back he'll only do the same again

[@sylvandespres7654]

nailed

[@kingsfoil5844]

That crash with Iddon wasn't his fault. Iddon basically stopped ahead of him and signalled when it was too late.

[@martincornish3179]

If racing wasn't dangerous enough along comes Andy.

[@jakeburnstunes4256]

Andy irwin is a danger to other riders,he shouldn't be allowed to race fullstop.