Level 1 Vs. MAX Level 100 ACE Paragon! (Bloons TD 6)

Level 1 Vs. MAX Level 100 ACE Paragon! BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - as per tradition, we take the goliath doomship to the skies of logs to see how long it can survive with its lowest and highest degree! Featuring lots and lots of micro in order to truly see how good it is...
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[@BTDIsab]

A high micro tower with the 'ISAB' paragon? Sounds about fitting. Check out the initial paragon showcase if you missed it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKKomIujibplias

[@JakeDaSnake610]

Apple🍎

[@BTDBoi]

The description of the ace paragon should’ve been “ this is the BIGGEST plane

[@advog4756]

When is ur next battles 2 stream?

[@Drillofskeletronium]

It was all p l a n n e d

[@gameymcgamer847]

it should've been called "ISAB; Incredibly Strong Annihilator of Bloons"

[@frank9966]

I actually do like how all the paths were incorporated. Yeah it’s not shooting 32 darts out in a circle, but the 16 gets the message across with less clutter, then you have both homing missiles AND darts (the front facing dart attack actually will bend direction to target bloons) does a good job covering the specter path & the several bombs you can target along the track is a cool blend of Bomber Ace & Ground Zero/TSAR Bomba

[@po3794]

see how long a superbuffed pirate lord can survive, it got heavily buffed and it’s damage is on par with stuff like carrier flagship and archmage now

[@tacotown4598]

Personally my favorite aspect of it by far is the carpet Bomb ability. It looks super cool and has the damage to back it up. The rest of the attack feel somewhat underwhelming, particularly the large dart volleys and missiles, which I think are a projectile reskin of etienne’s ucav

[@maudley]

I wish it incorporated bottom path better. Either a slight homing on the ring of 16 (not full neva miss, just how the spectre darts have a slight home), or better yet now that I think about it, make the forward facing ones aim like a spectre instead.

[@averagemarvelenjoyer6489]

And the carpet bomb bombs look like pineapples

[@piwdiesires9653]

Nev miss targeting and 030 ace doe

[@lool8421]

honestly i could see elite bosses utilizing some really sweaty ace micro, getting sub-1 min tier 5 elites

[@charliemallonee2792]

Can we appreciate that it gains the front-firing mini gun from BTD5? It was locked behind having the max upgraded building (basically knowledge).

[@meowdasia]

i like the ace para,its really cool looking and is def worth the cash,only bad thing is no 32 darts

[@ammonbergevin5302]

bro the Alc paragon is gonna be like permanent transformation or smth, turn a monke into a fuzzy boi with strength based on its cost

[@vip3r298]

the plane is so big when it turns on figure 8 it just pivots on the wingtip

[@Aidiot565]

I just feel like it needs more homing shots since faster Bloons like dtt and moabs late game so yeah

[@RonZhang]

ISAB's Dad went far past Round 200!

[@harpsbored4621]

im satisfied with this paragon imo, i was quite pissed when engi came out because it felt like a 6-2-2, and there was a wasted opportunity. But this paragon gives us a 4-3-3, and I like that because its superbuffed, and its kinda balanced in its pathing. its also big strong so yeah

[@maudley]

Eh, it doesn't really fit as an x-x-3, as from what I've seen the homing shots might just be the top path missiles. The forward fire behaves more like a spectre, minus the free aiming that makes spectre good. Kinda wish that part just fired like a spectre.

[@harpsbored4621]

@@maudley at a higher level, they shoot out green missiles that have the x-x-3 effect, which is why I incorporated that im

[@maudley]

@@harpsbored4621 they look more like the top path missiles to me

[@harpsbored4621]

@@maudley tru

[@TumbleHood]

I feel like you should change your pfp to the REAL big plane

[@TumbleHood]

😱😱😱

[@tibilore2]

Bro for my phone this paragon isn’t out 💀

[@YaBoiMega]

From my own testing, ace paragon seems to be really good at dealing bad damage with the ability but sometime misses ddts and ceramics with the homing darts

[@icepipersbrother4612]

Yup but falls off hard past 199 cuz it has no Bad stopping abilities; from my tests a level 76 cannot beat a r200 bad on alpine run, so boat at least is better for cost imo- I wish it was just a bit cheaper, like 700k or something

[@ivpry]

is the update out?

[@TheUltimateGooner]

Yes

[@Mister008Gaming]

Even with the ability it misses DDTs and ceramics on later rounds, because once you press the button, it takes about 4-5 seconds to actually trigger the ability.

[@tongs1073]

they should fix engi and plane paragons man, especially engi with no bloon trap

[@OTheFool]

I think, when it comes to paragons, the key is that it feels like the apex of the particular monkey - engi doesn't feel like the logical apex of a tower of which the key paths (really, ultraboost is too good imho) is focused on assisting other paths and crowd control so to speak. I think the best way to go about engi paragon would be a passive in range boost to attack speed that grows to some extent, and lower base damage in exchange for stronger debuffs. Just my 2 cents, as someone who is barely capable of doing chimps occasionally.

[@sutfolsemaj]

I got to round 98 on dark castle chimps once and I think that's the best I've ever done at anything

[@OTheFool]

@@sutfolsemaj Fair play! My best result is a guide-less black border on stumped, so, I ain't no expert either! I understand game feel, though, which is why I figured I'd throw my opinion out there =)

[@SUPABROS]

Tbh i feel like people who don't play chimps/impop are the people most suited to making balance changes for things like smines, vtsg, paragons, e.t.c, as people who usually mostly play chimps/impop dont really get paragons or anything like that in their games

[@re4lity176]

thank you isab for popping the bloons

[@kasparpoisu9998]

truly life changing

[@linktheheroofhyrule2498]

I like how on figure eight and figure infinite, the inner wingtips don't move. It looks like the entire plane is pivoting around the wingtip, pretty satisfying imo. Also testing this paragon crashed my game lmao.

[@slenderman7597]

flying fortress does the same

[@marcoplayz6821]

yeah that does look kinda goofy, imagine you saw a normal plane doing that

[@chillingwarmly5155]

here is something unsatisfying: look at the ace paragon's left most engine on the tail when ISAB first gets it

[@marcoplayz6821]

@@chillingwarmly5155 ohh you mean when he first gets the level 100 paragon. I hate looking at that

[@loganbdizzel490]

Hey if you were still wondering, leaving the doomship on wingmonkey then leaving the game corrupts the save BTW you can test this in challenge editor

[@adriniplayz2407]

ever ace paragon video ever, people give up on 201 or 200. Its crazy how this man was able to extend it to 219. This really just shows how much effort he puts into videos

[@zhiqiangchen6235]

It was one tower.

[@gugggugggugggugggugggugggu5671]

​@@RANDOMstuffCHANNEL. Your high round run is indeed higher than one paragon! Astute observation

[@cheppe7238]

Yeah hes uh, good

[@Jack-tu5zf]

I like how NK says that they don't think of paragons as 5-5-5 towers but when they first added them and it said it was a 6-0-0 tower when you got a paragon then they changed it to say 5-5-5.

[@amazingkool]

And for dart paragon, that makes complete sense. It's just a buff top path mechanically (hence why idk why everyone's mad about engi paragon revolving mostly around sentries)

[@jordy7654]

@@00GlueGunner Triple darts is from middle path tho

[@Joco999]

@@00GlueGunner engineer has ultraboost

[@Amodh1257]

@@00GlueGunner Same with literally every paragon other than engi: Boomer: Glaive Ricochet from top path, super speed from middle and explosives from bottom Navarch: Airplanes from top, hooks from middle, farming from bottom Ninja: Shurikens from top, Passive 50% slow from middle, Sticky bomb from bottom(missing caltrops but honestly who cares) In comparison, the Engi feels like a 5-4-3 at best. The bloon trap is a pretty sizable part of the tower

[@Kitsune_Chara_CG]

@@Amodh1257 Ngl Bloontraps are rlly good i dont play battles but even there ive seen it can be a menace Even in btd6 when i go for it i never regret it Its a damn shame and it kinda ruined the firdt support tower it doesnt support anything besides itself its just Another Dps tower and we have enough cool and strong dps towers

[@PancakeTheChosenOne]

It wouldve been rly funny if the higher degree it is the bigger it gets

[@jaskrolor]

yeah lol

[@dnl6928]

It does get _slightly_ bigger at higher degree

[@nekrosthefarmer9609]

Slightly, just like me

[@Zeta264]

On mobile at least(havent tested pc), i found that you actually can put the bombs even closer together by setting it to a red targeting and then clicking somewhere else to cancel the target setting. However, it will still be set to the illegal targeting.

[@quazzydiscman]

I noticed that too. I was able to cluster them together a few times. I don't think it worked every time though.

[@ryderfurpaw4201]

Now that ramping past 150 is higher, would you re-test the other paragons?

[@BTDIsab]

There's no difference in round 150 ramping since the first paragon was added (only 250+, which no paragon has gotten to)

[@ryderfurpaw4201]

@@BTDIsab ah whoops, my mistake

[@trainspower2236]

i think earinging money is a bit different

[@OBLIMMONSTER]

Is this a real paragon

[@kaiserquasar3178]

in my run on easy and with intense ace micro, the paragon got to the same round (194) as the buccaneer for degree 1. Still, I think it's clear the boat paragon is better pound for pound, since the ace can only reach similar (if slightly greater) heights with near-perfect micromanagement.

[@Mc_Fleury]

I already know this video is gonna be amazing

[@KyryloMudrokha]

Are you gonna change your icon to paragon ace or you are keeping the good old big plane?

[@Haikalsszz]

My opinion: 1) buccaneer paragon 2) ace paragon 3) ninja paragon 4) engineer paragon (600% ultraboost) 5) boomerang paragon 6) dart paragon (if the map have a lot of wall dart paragon is 4th)

[@brucezuffa7929]

it's not so much a 5-5-5 but a 4-6-3

[@jacobwarkentin2156]

Only complaint is that a basic 005 FEELS more powerful. For this massive pricepoint even at level one is should still FEEL worth getting rather than feeling like you wasted your time and money.

[@fuzzy-yt]

Now change your profile picture

[@martinshoosterman]

Imagine if the village Paragon doesn't buff other paragons and is effectively a support temple 2.0

[@swordmastersavage770]

nk would do smth like that

[@RaWBoy67]

I would really like to see a comparison of the targeting options. That frontal attack seems to make a big difference on cleaning up insides. Would wingmonkey be the best?

[@MrMega1423]

Yes, wingmonkey is the best, I was going through round 220 easily with wingmonkey on. Because then not only do you get the frontal attack but you'll usually be getting the most of the dart spread too.

[@mikehawk486]

It would've been so easy to just slap the three 5th tears together, just - three bomb streams that do a shit ton of damage (maybe a few more since it's a paragon. - The sky shredder amount of darts constantly firing out - The top path moab missiles, a lot of them - a really powerful nuke

[@astralghost8619]

I really like the front facing dart attack because I feel like it's a callback to BTD5's ace specialty building. And this could be a result of since it's a paragon, it'll inherit ALL ace attacks, even old ones from BTD5.

[@s.i.m.poster6823]

I'm surprised that Degree 100 doesn't have a third, larger cockpit.

[@thewarrior6792]

They should’ve made the paragons description “THE BIGGEST PLANE”

[@Notthegoldenratio]

they should change the ace paragon's description to "this is a BIGGER plane, i think the flying fortress is jealous and mad", that would be funny

[@Thebiggestgordon]

I reckon this is one of the best balanced paragons for its price imo, maybe along with the ninja. Bucc is op and boomerang is underpowered but this feels just right.

[@gingeral253]

I guess this is the ISAB paragon now.

[@user-dpscriberz]

This goes to show that the ace paragon is truly an Incredibly Strong Airborne Behemoth(I.S.A.B.).

[@EvelynnTheBorderCollie]

USAB

[@albinandersson1371]

Have you concidered revisiting the "How far heroes get" series? Mainly thinking about how Ezili now has an answer to Purples (along with the other changes made since the video first came out)

[@voreoh]

why would he

[@nicholaslahman9633]

Fun fact: If you look closely, you can see the mini bombing planes coming out of the ace paragon's underside.

[@Mister008Gaming]

That’s the same round I lost to (I won’t spoil it) with the degree 100 when I tested it on Logs (although I tested it on medium, so the bloons didn’t move nearly as fast).

[@Urmom-rf6tm]

Rly a good paragon,uses all paths,requires skill instead of mindless dps,looks sick at higher degrees and got rly far,downside:requires pops and not an alternate way,expensive

[@tacotown4598]

It’s deffinitly a lot better than engi. It does have some flaws imo: requiring pops IS a weakness, it means it’s worse in boss events where pops are harder to get, and which are the main uses for paragons. Also, the attacks other than the carpet bomb feel underwhelming both visually and in terms of power

[@Terrabyte13]

@@tacotown4598 Definitely going to be good for vortex, since you can put it away from the track so it can't get stunned.

[@tacotown4598]

@@Terrabyte13 yea

[@APerson-14]

Yoo

[@angelayala3124]

It would be so awesome if the Navarch could buff the Doomship. It would be so cool.

[@spunchbob.]

Maybe it will also buff all water based upcoming paragons too with the ace para

[@po3794]

I’m pretty sure ace and engi paragon have the exact same damage values, 200 for degree 1 and same multiplier for bosses and elite bosses

[@tacotown4598]

No idea why but for some reason dart paragon has 10x damage to elite bosses. All the other paragons have 4x damage. Goofy.

[@maudley]

@@tacotown4598 good to know, thanks

[@tacotown4598]

@@maudley dart is by far the best paragon against bosses

[@yixo]

Personally kinda sad since I really like bot path plane but don't really use others. Also not called Isab... blasphemy. Also personally I really liked dart boomer and ninja designs, boat is good but the bot path feels missing and the platforms are lackluster imo. Engi is a disaster and ace is well okay? Also in general I don't like how the paragons are, hate how they're specifically geared towards bosses and I hate the lvls (1. you can't even max it solo, 2. waiting for pops and spamming million towers is boring imo). I'd much rather just have a "6th tier" or preferably more towers (like beasthandler and bloonchipper).

[@dude9948]

Did anyone else notice the ability drops giant pineapples?

[@porgs5715]

Is it just me or do game saves with this paragon crash?

[@ivanhristov2390]

Nope, same thing happened to me

[@pyromainia4710]

Yeah I've had that happen twice on two maps (Cubism and Resort). I don't think it's a 100% chance, but it does feel like 90%, and if it does, the file is just corrupted and you have to restart)

[@inconspicuoushero2885]

to me it looks like the ace paragon becomes more like a 5-5-5 when its degree 100 and more like a 4-5-3 at degree 1 like ISAB said

[@GravityIsFalling]

Ironic isn’t it? It looks like a 6th tier Flying Fortress and yet it’s the only path it doesn’t incorporate

[@mydreamingends]

i guess when the ace is in front of the bloons and shoots the fast dart thing its technically part of it? probably wrong tbh

[@pocket3216]

What about the green missiles

[@DaBruhMe]

goliath doom ship needs micro to be useful as possible, wonder how much damage it would deal to bosses ( the boss layer, not the insides as its weak on cleaning up and strong on damage focus )

[@RichardDong68]

Am I the only one who prefers the Ace Paragon Mod created months ago compared to this underwhelming piece of garbage?

[@BloodWolf2005]

5:35 Sounds like a back-pedal to me. When you lose a round and it shows the game's top popper, paragons read 5-5-5.

[@dandiloni3040]

Am I the only one that thinks the design for the attacks are kinda underwhelming?

[@APerson-14]

New ISAB pfp maybe??

[@dylan_1313]

What a vid.

[@games.io-Banus]

The highest round on the lvl 100 boomer paragon isn't right. It's way higher

[@martinshoosterman]

I am very excited to see how good this is against bosses. The only thing that could justify its price tag is insane boss damage. So it'll be fun to see

[@morthine2457]

i got my first degree 100 paragon with the ace today. i got to round 197 without micro or ability placement

[@humblehive6502]

I like this paragon including all paths, but i dislike how heavy the micro is for it, to me it feels more powerful the more it can do on its own

[@rallvegd]

I feel like the ace paragon would do great when paired up with buccaneer paragon. Ace does massive damage against bads and the buccaneer cleans up the insides with its auto hooks

[@ben33681]

Whats the highest round you can reach right now in singleplayer?

[@Crumbling_Vortex]

Could you possibly add the paragon records to the descriptions for videos in this series, because you reference the records set by other paragons in the video and I have no reliable way to check and see what those records are when I can't remember the round numbers.

[@MineNAdventurer]

I really wonder what the stats for this paragon are specifically. Also kinda wish it would have had 2 more spectre type guns that auto lock while the twin guns that it currently has was the pure micro one (also they should of had 2 extra rows of bombs fired per shot. Also maybe have 4 more homing missiles and have them pierce like the Hydra Rocket Pod missiles so it's like a more accurate combination of the Fighter Plane's missile + the Neva Miss Targetting but only for these ones.)

[@pogpogger9497]

should have

[@daddysempaichan]

Maybe some side guns like an AC-130 or Boat

[@syaktofu5344]

I did it on park path impoppable mode died on round 200 with degree 100

[@dirtspritestuff5850]

boat paragon's ability to just instakill an fbad makes it very very cracked

[@Graveler28]

feels like it needs a tad bit more to be worth 800k

[@GameJam230]

I think it'd be neat to see the Ninja, Boat, AND Ace all at once. The boat and ace especially, as the boat will make up for the fortified bad weakness of the ace by just deleting them. As for the Ninja, it would largely be for support in this case, with the permanent speed reduction and sticky bombs dealing massive damage. I feel like they all compliment each-other decently well

[@sutfolsemaj]

It makes me wonder how far all 6 tier 100 paragons together could get. It would have to be at least 300, right? I know the ramping gets absurd at 250 now, but their individual popping power combined with how they support each other would be really strong too.

[@emathebr]

12:30 "i am definatly not dead here folks" Dies 1 second later

[@boring_content]

I also watched the video

[@woopdeedoo124]

8:30, that aligns so well with the thumbnail

[@UIS_SonGoku]

Imagine the alchemist paragon is the transformed beast with gold on him and his permanent brew potion buffs 3 or 4 times it does at its base and it can buff other paragons.

[@Lega_Twist]

Is it the best thing in the game? Let me know in replies

[@Legohunter-uv1wc]

Are you gonna update your pfp to biggest plane or no?

[@gamblertheclown7397]

I think it's good that Kiwi made a paragon max, it stops people from brainlessly putting all the paragons down and sit back, it actually got to think about it, it's like "do I really need _____ Paragon?" makes you carefully think it out, each paragon has a difference in every map, dart paragon is terrible in open maps but good in narrow and cramped maps like cornfield, plus it's most likely ninja kiwi will increase the maximum of paragons as more paragons get introduced.

[@Rafaell_Carvalho]

I can only see your point on events and ranked modes. On freeplay the limit is just plain stupid

[@LiewLmao]

“Do I really need _ paragon” Boomer paragon is basically dead and for t5 bosses logically only makes sense to get the strongest paragons This doesn’t change anything but make the weaker paragons unusable for no reason

[@lightfuse5091]

Bro the engineer paragon is just a tier 6 for top path😂

[@loganbdizzel490]

Fair warning: leaving the doomship on wingmonkey and exiting the game corrupts the save file Make sure to switch targeting before exiting BTW you can test this in challenge editor

[@EeveeShadowBacon]

The Navarch hsa global range and high damage, but it also requires you to have a lot of water to place ships, either to grind pops or bananas

[@zarnox3071]

I don't really see the problem with a 3 paragon limit, since they're so expensive to begin with. It makes much more sense to me to focus on a few mid-high degree paragons rather than many low degree ones.

[@Crumbling_Vortex]

I kinda agree, for challenges like races and bosses, but part of the problem is when you're doing casual play and just wanna drop every single tower in the game and experiment like that on some random round 350+ freeplay save.

[@smp1017]

That would be bad for highest round runs. We need all paragons to push the limits of the game

[@TJ-hg6op]

This is probably the best designed paragon in incorporating all of the paths, but I feel the design and effects are underwhelming. The rockets just look like hydra rocket pods, and the bomb ability doesn’t feel that good. I think it should have a ton of darts as well. I do think it is good it doesn’t destroy the game.

[@blackraven225]

So much paragons. I'm so hyped what the spike factory paragon would look like!

[@jonathansoares5454]

Is it glitched?? Got a lvl 73 doomship from the 3 lvl 5 towers + 7 totems

[@Delululucyy]

i do wish they had more of a flying fortress incorporation, considering its where the beefy price tag comes from

[@saddoot6545]

I was bored heres a list of all paragons andwhat they feel like tier wise you can disagre if you want Dart monkey is 6-3-6 Boomerang is 6-4-2 Ninja is 6-2-6 Boat is 6-6-6 (Boat paragon op) Engi is 6-2(5)-3 Ace is 4-6-6

[@KamawnTH]

Am I the only one that thinks the ace paragon looks really unsatisfying Like plasma master: Many projectiles and bounces round the screen very cool Ascended shadow: Big shurikens and shreds against bosses satisfying when that health go fast straight to 0 Boat: Can kill Bads and deal a lot of damage. You can place towers on it so very epic choice And then ace paragon...: *homing hydra rockets.* REALLY NINJA KIWI?!

[@avocadofromroblox1813]

it does have flying fortress you just cant see it when it faces a bloon the flying fortress activate

[@extreme123dz]

So fucking weak this paragonis..., but the boat paragon is fucking strong, has better DPS, Burst 3 Global attacks (Main, Aircraft and ability), cheap, boost economy, it can get more money, have buffs, has 1shot even fortified bads regardless of the level, etc....Hope Ninjakiwi hardnerf to the ground the boat paragon and give us more buff for the other ones.

[@errolsarup5946]

1,000,000 XP, 800,000 Dollars, and 100 sacrifices, yet my Flying fortress killed 2 reinforced bads faster than it did. The pilots better have fun using it cause it SUCKS

[@staticostrich4689]

I think sub paragon has the best potential for paragon synergy. I'll put my full desc. Here for anyone who wants to read what I came up with! Captain fallout: radioactivity is my kind of activity! Cost of 200 ish k (cheapest on purpose, I think it's better that way) The armour piercing darts attack is like an upgraded ultra fast version of the sub commander with all the same attributes but it pops all Bloons. It can only do advanced Intel in other paragons' ranges. The ballistic missile attack is like the normal ballistic missile but on impact it leaves an Energizer AoE for quite some time, dealing more damage than the missile impact eventually. This attack cannot see over obstacles unless a paragon can see past the obstacle. Ability: the missile strike on the largest bloon on screen. Leaves a larger, deadlier toxic waste behind, and on impact, removes a third of paragon ability cooldowns, removes two thirds of all T5 cooldowns, and fully refreshes water based and hero cooldowns. Put this all together and this paragon is much better than it's price tag if you have the correct towers on field. I designed it so that it would greatly benefit from towers like cripple Moab with its many DoTs and high attack speed. It's meant to be a tier 3 elite killer but not to be sold afterward for farms. It won't steal all the pops from your other towers because it only advances Intel in paragon range. And, it's super helpful outside of boss events. What's not to like?

[@axl5189]

With the 3 paragon limit if u have a saved game with the last 5 u still have them u just can’t place anymore cause I’m round 280 with 100 apex, 80 something boomerang, 80 something ninja, 60 to 70 boat, and 80 something masterbuilder paragon

[@cicicici1896]

hi

[@APerson-14]

Noo u beat me by 1 second

[@cicicici1896]

I am built different

[@APerson-14]

@@cicicici1896 I didn't instantly click comment so like... nah

[@S.o.u.n.d.w.a.v.e]

So NK doesn't call paragons 5-5-5 but if you look at the end game stats card it'll say your paragon is a 5-5-5. 😐

[@ijustwantedtocomment8319]

Well, in NK's defence, what else would they call it? I mean I guess they could have added a custom banner that said "PARAGON" or something, but labelling it as 5-5-5 is a lot easier. But yeah, other than that, you make a very good point.

[@S.o.u.n.d.w.a.v.e]

@@ijustwantedtocomment8319 well I'll give NK that. But still they should add custom things for paragon's as their very expensive and cool towers

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

They don't think of them as 5-5-5 from a design perspective, but they acknowledge that they are in a pure gameplay perspective

[@OmerFarukUcer]

Plane made me disappointed really.I was expecting Plane's Tier 6 better than Bucanner's Tier 6 :(

[@Reasons_42]

I feel like if I want to get 100 degree paragon I will have to get Geraldo, but I don’t have him but I tried getting 100 paragon with out him like I didn’t need him for it even though you do, I place over 100 2,4,0 boomerang to get 100 degree but only got like 30-60 so ye you apparently need more than 120 tower of the paragon you to maybe get a 100 degree

[@JTB-1]

Few comments, oh well. Kinda disappointed by the paragon at first look. Maybe it has something hidden that we don't know about

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I really think this is anything but disappointing. Very strong, but with strategy to it, and definitely feels like a culmination of the entire ace tower

[@extreme123dz]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 The word disappointing is too short to describe what this paragon is comparing to others special the overpower boat paragon....

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

I really hope they will add the posibility for paragons to buff each other, it would add a lot of complexity to when to build what and make it esier to incorporate diferent paths. Like it would have been really cool for the engeneer paragon to do that or for the pirat one to have a special buff on boats and aces.

[@OloEopio]

That is the only reason I can really see them limiting the amount of paragons you can have.

[@horribleperson9531]

Imagine navarch buffs the doomship like the 5-x-x buccaneer

[@ugl200]

Wait there's a limit on the paragons you can have? I have all of the paragons on one of the maps (currently going on round 277+ and going strong ) and the only ones I don't have placed down yet is the engineer paragon since I'm getting up the money (I sold lots of things since my phone was lagging like crazy)

[@AceFuzzLord]

If I didn't have any better mobile games I could switch to, I'd be quitting btd6. I haven't found anything that could replace it, makinge stuck with it until then

[@Joseon-ii8sm]

honestly i just wish it dropped the bombs on the track like the 0-3-0, but the ability is close enough i guess?

[@Kalmaro4152]

It would be a bit better if the basic purple missiles had at least some "Neva-Miss" applied to them, so that they could at least avoid the near-misses

[@errolsarup5946]

I really don't understand the investment of a Goliath doom ship when it clearly struggles with basic balloons and doing damage, Monkey aces are great and all, but this thing has missiles built like paper airplanes and bombs built like grapes