BTM PODCAST - The Layperson has NO Madhab - Shaykh Mustafa Abu Rayyan

In this discussion we cover;
.What is fiqh?
.Navigating differences of opinion.
.Blind following
.Madhabs
#quran #sunnah #hanafi #maliki #shafi'i #hanbali #islam #muslim #blindfollowing #hadith
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[@qm6595]

The Evolution of Fiqh by Dr BIlal Philips is a really short concise work on the Fiqh schools, really worth reading, it would definitely help put things into perspective and InSha Allah resolve a lot of the extremism

[@MuhammadAli-mz4pq]

Yes, that is a very good book in the English language.

[@umarfarukyunus2030]

Definitely a must read...especially for starters

[@mohammedkamalhussain3694]

If you are trusting a trustworthy scholar, you are following his madhab.

[@Sunii565]

Yes dear brother, but following is different from blind-following

[@mohammedkamalhussain3694]

@@Sunii565 unless the scholar you follow tells you why, how and so on its all blind following. Nothing wrong with Blind Following, for people who can't even spell the word Quran, let alone read and understand it.

[@Sunii565]

@@mohammedkamalhussain3694 Yes that’s right. If you don’t know anything you have no choice but to blind-follow (Taqleed). But if you are a student or a beginner scholar yourself you would follow (itibaa’). Is that what you were saying? Also, I think with the title “The Layperson has NO madhab” they’re referring to THE FOUR MADHABS. So the layperson is following the “madhab” of his trusted scholar, not the four imams (even though most might claim their following one of the four, they’re not)

[@a.i9347]

Yes earth is flat! NASA lies.

[@doctorsnuggles3299]

Some people think that aslong a scholar present u his proof,for example a hadith, then isn't blind following. But that's is not true because how do they know that the hadith which the scholar presents is the adequate proof for the matter which he explain. So they have two options, either they check all the proofs by themselves and do their own ijtihad or they blindfollowing the proofs of the scholar.

[@Wayfarer570]

I watched literally dozens of video explanations on the Madhahib and still was able to learn new things from this podcast. Jazakumullahu khairan.

[@rd5933]

Baarakallaahu feekum yaa Sheikh, brother and the entire team. Hope to see more videos like this!

[@KnowledgeNorth]

good discussion, جزاكم الله خيرا

[@albirasta8679]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa my dear brothers and sisters. Barakallahu feek for that video brother. May Allah reward you for your work. This video was in deed beneficial for me in sha Allah. I have problems with "dealing" with brothers and sisters that say that make up there own opinions and fatawa. Im following the Hanafi Madhab. This video clarified some questions and issues I had about madhabs and where there come from. Salam from germany (Original from Kosovo) may Allah forgive us and guide us. Ameen.

[@tasrahman4835]

Assalamu'alaikum! Is this GLM's own podcast?? How exciting!

[@rasimuddinmd9190]

Assalamu alekum brothers, well said, he is the true alim who removes doubt in people's mind disliking following a majahib. He unites muslim umah.

[@Sunii565]

This video has sparked some really good discussions in the comments. For me this is one of the biggest proofs that this methodology is the most suitable and is the most realistic way to unity.

[@wakar93800]

Which one ?

[@ax8285]

سبحان الله

[@mohammedismail3499]

1400 years and some folks carry on like there’s been no answer to this question

[@umerspeeches6530]

So verily, with the hardship, there is relief. Verily, with the hardship, there is relief” [Quran 94:5-6]

[@abuhaadiyah9403]

Masha’Allah cool idea

[@1eV]

39:45 link to the panel discussion on who is a scholar?

[@freddykambata421]

It's all about following Qur'an and sunnah. Like take the example of praying you should do Rafa yadain cause it as reported according to Saheeh Hadith not because imam Ahmed or SHAFI did it

[@ni3467]

Finally they admit it we normal ppl need to follow a madhab. True everything wont be correcr but ots better follow pious ulama who the ummah respect than ppl have less ilm

[@natheemalbertus7988]

Salaam All, when I was at University I was exposed to different Imams in Cape Town & Johannesburg referring to hadith more than the Quran. These imams would say that if there was no Quran then Bhukhari's works would have been the Quran. I bought me set of Bhukhari books. But later as I had time to read & discuss with fellow students I rejected this idea of Bhukhari's works replacing the quran. I am listening to what the Sheikh and he saying nothing different back then about 4 schools of thought. In fact I dont believe the concept of Fiqh actually existed at the time of the prophet it only became a study after his death. My point, I dont any longer Believe in the 4 schools of thought as it is too devisive but will accept any one of the school's teaching which resonates with my belief. I was brought up in a so called Shafi teaching but am of the view the Hanafi teaching is much in line with my thinking on fiqh issues. It is ridiculous to follow any one Imam's teaching that holds a minority view amongst the 4 schools of thought. To conclude when I had to fill in forms by the agent for Hajj in 2017, the Imam takind down my information who actually studied for 11 years in Medina asked me among other questions which mathab I belonged to, I paused and looked at him and told him I dont belong anymore to any school I am just a Muslim, no further tags. I follow the Prophet (PBUH). Algamudullilah

[@MakeTawba.]

Walaikum as Salaam

[@justabrother356]

Online?

[@mhas9110]

Madhab is often translated as a "school of thought" or "school of thought within fiqh" - maybe this translation is the root problem? UK law is not applicable in Australia, although it is part of the Common wealth. Scotland has its own jurisprudence and English law is not applicable there, even though they are apart of the UK and on the same island. Quran is and will always be the core of all fiqh, but jurisprudence must be applied by the appropriate madhab best adapted for the region. The Maliki madhab regins supreme in Maghrib(north Africa) , the Hanafi is unparallel in the Hind region and the Shafi Madhab has a stronghold in the Far-East(Indonesia). Yes, Madhab is used as a bad excuse to cause division in the Ummah but that is an illogical understanding of what Madhab is. No Scotsman will ever say that their dispute with the English is because of their law? We as an Ummah must do more to create an "Islamistan", but the prospect looks bleak when our quarrels are getting over a 1000 years old...

[@jabba5716]

Don't compare fiqh to kufriya laws brother. Islam is same everywhere and so I fiqh that is the fiqh of rasoolullah and not the fiqh of a particular region

[@mhas9110]

@@jabba5716 I am sorry but I do not think that you understand the meaning of Madhab or Fiqh. And I do not think that you understood what I wrote, because I have not made any comparisons between English law or Islamic law. Although English law is influenced by Abrahamic traditions and legal rules. Sorry brother I am afraid that you are living in a Star Wars-centric fantasy world. You would benefit more by reading, contemplating and praying!

[@jabba5716]

@@mhas9110 what books have you read?

[@ni3467]

The madhabs are derived from shabah like the hanafi fiqh lot from ibn Masud

[@anzar420316]

this is a great video, but i just cant understand the title, "the layperson has NO madhab" is not really a good representation of what was said, that was a minor point

[@freddykambata421]

Why Green Lane Mosque has Urdu Ahle Hadees speakers then ??? Who have no Madhab 😂 ???

[@Krackatoa_Inc]

The layman can't follow a madhab, I tried it personally and you'll have to read books which are untranslated and requires teachers. The layman follows a trusted scholar who has fear of Allah and authentic knowledge

[@thirtysetsadique2595]

Same goes for the layman can't follow the quran and sunnah

[@muhammadmustafiz8040]

One of the most idiotic comments made by foolish so called ghair muqalid. Your example is the same as saying a layman can't follow Rasulullah sallallahu alayhis sallam but rather a trusted local scholar LOL

[@Sunii565]

You’re both right. The layman doesn’t follow a madhab or “Quran and Sunnah”. Therefore, he should follow a trusted scholar WHO FOLLOWS QURAN AND SUNNAH

[@Krackatoa_Inc]

@@Sunii565 exactly baarak Allahu feek. We as layman can't extract rulings directly as that requires, usool al-tafseer, usool al-fiqh, Arabic language etc

[@Islam.is.the.truth..]

Your trusted scholars follows a madhab

[@gul139]

How do you relate 3:103 “And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided” to madhabs??? Aren’t madhabs/ differences of opinions dividing Ummah?

[@Krackatoa_Inc]

The division that is blameworthy is what directly goes against the Qur'an and sunnah. As for furoo' issues. There's no problem, haven't you seen the incident where the Prophet said to pray 'Asr in Bani qurayzah, some companions waited and others prayed, he didn't blame any

[@muhammadmustafiz8040]

The sahaba r.a. themselves had differences of opinion. Only salafis cry about made up things that aren't even a problem

[@shabanatasleem1014]

Not really! Madhabs do not cause division! For example, in Sociology we have (putting it basically), the following schools of thought: Functionalism, Marxism and Interactionism. Now, these are split within, specifically Emile Durkheim differs from Talcott Parsons (although both fall under the banner of functionalism). We also have the postmodern(ist) theorist so one always comes from a perspective, otherwise we’d be lost sheep so it’s good to align oneself to one madhub for a better sense of direction...

[@gul139]

@@shabanatasleem1014 dear sis, thank you for reply, but keep in mind to give your answer in a simple way where people can understand not everyone has taken sociology class. Also, the question on “aligning oneself with a madhab to get a sense of direction” what if you follow a madhab and do not agree on one of their rules but you align with slither madhab on that ruling, but merely because you are following “that one” madhab so now you have to do blind following? Are you allowed to change your stance based on another madhab?

[@shabanatasleem1014]

@@gul139 Bro, I’m not a Islamic scholar nor an Alimah. You need to pose this Q to the learned. For example, one wouldn’t go to the dentition for an eye problem. You’d go to an optometrist for eye 👁 issues etc. All I was saying was that the school of thoughts (perspectives) allow or enable one with a framework or sense of direction (somewhat). Now, the functionalists argue that every institution serves a function in society ie the family or they even go as far as to state that a certain amount/level of crime is functional or rather beneficial for society. On the other hand, Marxism which takes its theory from Karl Marx, emphasises on the capitalist system and capitalism. In contrast, the interactionist approach put the individual at the core and believe in the premise that the individual shapes society, whereas the former school of thoughts focus on structures, affecting the individual. Now, with regards to madhabs, scholars (in general) have stated that people or individuals will shop around for fatwas that will suit the individual. Without coming across as controversial, the Quran states that music is haram in Islam. However, some scholars have passed the fatwa (injunction) that music is permissible. So an individual that listens to music may shop around for a fatwa that suits him or her because such an individual can’t give up listening to music, instead of admitting that it’s a weakness to be worked upon. Anyway, I’m no Islamic scholar, best to consult the learned in such matters (contentious or rather grey areas). Read this book, that I read long ago to clarify the issue of madhabs, if you’re interested in this subject matter: The Legal Status of Following A Madhab by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani. Publishers are Darul-Ishaat.

[@AliHassan-hb1bn]

Madhab is not religion but some one's name, for example my teachers name is not my religion. Religion is Islam, not Shafi'i or Hanafi or Hambali etc.

[@htmoh8115]

You have so many hanafi but are deobandis, barelvi, ashari. So one need to be extremely careful. Also Some people are die hard madhabi. An turned it like a sect. They call themselves, hanafi for example. We should learn from other madhabs an increase our knowledge as long it's authentic. Our goal is Jannah.

[@htmoh8115]

@نعيم بن انس deobandi is a revivalist movement. Goes back to India madrassa. An some practices are NOT from the authentic teaching of Islam.

[@htmoh8115]

@نعيم بن انس this is why its called a revivalist. An made a madrassa. Darul ul uloom. An the founders aqeeda was not Athari.

[@jabba5716]

@نعيم بن انس they are a sect. They are naqshbandi or chisti in tariqa and maturidi in aqeedah. Ahlul bidah

[@farhaanadam2609]

@@jabba5716 with that stement majority of the salaf/khalaf were ahlul bida right?

[@jabba5716]

@@farhaanadam2609 which imam from the salaf said that he belonged to the naqshbandi or the chisti tariqa? Or shall we talk about what deobandi elders say about the sifaat of Allah (azza wa jall) and compare it to the statements of the aimma of salaf

[@malwaredestroyer105]

Nonsense Wahabis waffling

[@Hussain-ch3pr]

Wahhabis are extremely dull.