Sparg0 vs Marss - Top 64 Ultimate Singles - Genesis 8 | Cloud vs Zero Suit Samus

[@eitak12334]

2:39 its so funny how after charles spends 30 seconds recounting the time he was talking with marss about how impressive mexico’s corner pressure is as a region and how marss was unworried bc he has flipkick, marss immediately rolls to the corner and holds crouch to flipkick a backair only to get hit anyway

[@UnuUO]

tbf, look at how far away he was from that bair. That was insan

[@druizcardenas312]

@@UnuUO It wasn't just the bair, if you go frame by frame you'll notice Marss actually started a dash into Sparg0's bair and got hit. If he hadn't done that it wouldn't had hit. IMO seems like Marss wanted to low profile a rising bair and then dash (that's why he was crouching) but Sparg0 delayed it.

[@UnuUO]

@@druizcardenas312 I saw him start the dash, but it still hit him from incredibly far away.

[@manificent5733]

It’s crazy how Mkleo and Spargo can make the comebacks look so easy

[@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos]

Yea Mexicans are a different breed

[@DurzoGuile]

Such a comeback for a favourable matchup for Cloud.

[@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos]

@@theimpersonator7086 I'm not pero mucha glacias

[@ChrisM-vz4pe]

I’m sure Mkleo is out for revenge against Marss since he lost this tournament last year against Marss.

[@lyrics2challenged]

Lol, Gluto doesn't exist.

[@mordicaialivonalioshea4493]

Crazy to see how the meta in ultimate has changed so much its absolutely insane

[@John_James]

yeah I also like how aggressive charachters are getting better

[@bestberryj]

@@John_James Yeah, this game 2 looked like it was straight from Melee. Love it!

[@LazyNinjass]

There is no meta for characters, only for players. The best players dominate with mid tiers, tiers don’t matter

[@tzarfox3218]

@@LazyNinjass i mean are u tryna tell me that the best little mac player could beat the best joker player in tourney? tiers matter somewhat

[@tzarfox3218]

@@LazyNinjass but i agree with ur point that really good players still shine even when they arent using top tiers

[@heartbreaker2485]

Just a reminder marss beat esam 3-0 and kola 3-1 before this set and beat arron 3-1 after this set. Saying marss is washed because he lost to #2 in the world is crazy lol

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

They called him washed because he hasn't performed at the level of a top 5 player which he was before. One tournament is nothing. I do want marss to succeed but I don't know if he can stay consistent.

[@HappyRhino]

@@thelordoftheweebs9501 nah give the man some credit. This is more than just “one tournament.” It’s Genesis- and so anyone able to put on a show like he’s doing rn gets some respect in my book.

[@jamesnixon2297]

@@thelordoftheweebs9501 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX6cnKaaZqmBqq8&noapp=1 if my previous comment doesn’t go through that’s all ima say bcuz if marss ain’t acc a top5 player then he is right zss does acc suck

[@nachot6592]

He is just inconsistent AF

[@A_cracker14]

Marss is washed

[@fbi6880]

2:59 yeah that hit

[@KatsuDjinGX]

JESUS. I main cloud and that just seems wrong.

[@yuugen2199]

Skill issue 🥱 jk that's BS

[@codym1682]

Didnt see that the first time, jeez

[@druizcardenas312]

Marss ran straight into it lol

[@mynameiscraig1388]

This game is literally awful

[@mepluspie]

11:35 marss not getting his jump back because down b failed is so sad. Nothing he could do

[@Xxblade17]

Hate to see it

[@Tlanesi]

It is actually good on Spargo's behalf, the reactionary roll on short hop back air is timed to a true punish on down b to get it to jump on you and have lag.

[@supagremlin3274]

@@Tlanesi that was not intentional

[@runterranger7398]

he could of done a directional airdodge instead.

[@KidAL0]

Wait so we’re sympathizing with zss failing to recover for once

[@あああ-p1r9k]

I'm remembering the CEO 2019 match. Same players, stage, characters, but only different results. Sparg0 is definitely moving forward.

[@zsoliddannys242]

Not only that, marss stopped competing for almost 2 years... Marss can defiently beat sparg0 again with ease, he just needs to keep playing.

[@RealizedTruth20]

@@zsoliddannys242 that's his fault he stopped grinding and spargo didn't. Now Mars gotta catch up to spargo

[@lyrics2challenged]

@@zsoliddannys242 bruh, you all are NOT gonna start this shit again. Marss can still compete, just accept many players are better now. He came back when everyone else did, give his competitors credit. Marss is probably top 10 so far this season, but not overall RN.

[@Oskar619]

Yep and sparg0 keeps rolling in smh

[@zsoliddannys242]

@@Oskar619 But he got owned by Gluto and Leo...

[@lugardo]

each game was under 4min; these guys mean business w/ their playstyles

[@eboki1641]

If Marss runs into spargo again, I wonder if the raincoat joker would do better? Just hoping he can make a banger losers run through top 8!!

[@omegalilbchass8270]

I doubt Marss couldve won if he won game 3. it was really close

[@dennisreynolds1503]

I'd think spargo has a lot of mu exp vs Leo's joker from when he used him more regularly

[@camelotsr54]

@@dennisreynolds1503 Sparg0 wasn’t playing at the Level he is now vs when Leo was piloting his Joker. I doubt he has a lot of Exp from Leo’s Joker, or at least a polished Leo’s Joker.

[@nonames-qd1gn]

@@omegalilbchass8270 nah you’re just coping lol Marss got beat

[@omegalilbchass8270]

@@nonames-qd1gn I'm not coping, I'm just not a pessimist And yeah, he did, your point?

[@ジムシ-j5g]

スパーゴのキャラ対が完璧。上り空前に徹底的にリスクつけにいってる

[@ephedra443]

I can't believe a humble content creator took a game off of spargo with a low tier

[@mightguy3578]

Bottom tier*

[@morning_story33]

As a Marss fan, I really hope he can channel that game 1 energy make it through losers and face spargo at grand finals. Honestly at that point idc if Marss loses, I just wanna see a rematch of Spargo and Marss because both players are so electric.

[@petrinonelson1992]

Marss in grands?? Keep dreaming pal xd

[@Khanso1o]

That would be really nice.

[@gaelson_]

Bro imagine thinking Marss will be on GF

[@gaelson_]

🤡🤡🤡

[@shortbread1818]

Would be cool but Marss ain’t there rn

[@randomizedgaming1707]

The Up-smash multi-hit not connecting is a classic case of zsssux

[@yuugen2199]

11:36 zss moment there damn

[@janswhatsupdoc]

Marss prob be thinking after ceo years ago: “I have created a monster”

[@BlastPKMN]

I felt like Marss made several greedy plays that cost him the set. He missed like 3 or 4 grabs and as ZSS thats counted as overcommitting every time you miss. He also missed the off stage down air which resulted in an SD. Other than that Marss played very well and definitely couldve beat Sparg0. Sparg0 is just too good a majority of the time. Props to both of them. Hope to see how they both place in top 8 later today

[@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx]

The grabs probably came after fair getting beat out by cloud sword and just wanted to get a good hit to start a string or combo. Zair is almost out of the question as you have to be in the air, and if the opponent didn’t already react to the jump, then you can zair. Idk just seems really hard for ZSS. But I did hear Joker is a bad matchup for one of Spargo’s characters, don’t remember Which one tho.

[@calebw8189]

I'm not a Marss fan, but to be fair, a lot of his greedy/aggressive options weren't being punished at all by other top players.

[@darkyu3229]

Yeah and spargo did mistakes too but he won, cry

[@Sky_Firez]

Look at how hyped the crowd is when Sparg0 wins each game!

[@Null1596]

It is hard to empathize with someone who is perfect. That is exactly why we should root for him.

[@nattompkins888]

Other players after getting their first two stocks smoked in game 1: ‘gg go next’ Spargo: ‘gg go now’

[@lloydaran]

I'll be honest, I didn't give Marss much credit after he shifted into being a "humble content creator", because I thought playing Elite Smash and different characters all the time would put his proficiency in jeopardy, but he actually took a game from #2 in the world, with an SD, sure, but it sure looks like he still could still put out that top 5 energy. The difference with Sparg0 is huge, but Marss does have things to improve on and reach higher.

[@SeriousStriker]

Also he beat ESAM and Kola earlier, Marss has been playing really well this tournament.

[@alexiswiftrock]

At SWT they 3 stocked each other. Not that surprising. Cloud just has absurd frame data

[@henryczeisler4851]

The game he won didn’t really have an SD. The bair threaten that marss did prevented spargo from recovering. Either spargo gets hit with the bair and dies or he tries to go under and possibly recover.

[@zsoliddannys242]

Marss can surpass Spargo0 for sure, he just needs to keep grinding.

[@zsoliddannys242]

@@alexiswiftrock ZSS has better frame data lel

[@natebingaman4524]

Me and the boys up smashing

[@bobert555555]

Spargos cloud will always be 200x more fun to watch then his Aegis. His mixups and game plan is far more calculated then Just abusing Aegis busted moves.

[@marco_lezcano]

Totally agree

[@darknesswave100]

Yeah am I the only one who when somebody plays Aegis just sits there bored? Cloud is way more fun to watch imo

[@ManuelPersona24]

I like your attitude very much! I wish everyone would finally realise it!

[@akumaghilardi2992]

Foreal people are only good with them because they’re such a busted character. Anyone who already knows how the smash mechanics work plus the power of the Aigis busted moves makes them better not because they’re good.

[@lyrics2challenged]

You people love those bitches so much, you can't stop speaking of them even when they're missing.

[@samgardner7376]

Don’t get me wrong, Marss is insanely good, but in comparison to Spargo I saw so many mistakes on Marss’s part. ZSS is still as broken as ever and he can take these with more practice

[@고은혜-v1q]

Getting a revenge from Ceo 2019

[@たろ-e5z]

途中から掴み当たらん、空N、グラップは登りで潰されるかジャスガ、空前は上スマ、やばすぎ

[@rokiloki1023]

sparg0流石に上手すぎない…？なにこれ

[@mightguy3578]

Sparg0 is really good

[@Fpl8646]

AND CHAMPIONSHIP SUNDAY IS HERE

[@sunsh1ne1024]

I love that I can tell this was recorded on a Saturday because KK Slider is performing on the Animal Crossing stage :)

[@1Aleczize]

That last stock fucking mint!

[@GottaBeAHero]

Really fun set to watch

[@maxpogfrog]

The shielded downbs really costed him the set

[@itzlehalirri9252]

Good thing Marss had that intangible jump.

[@danielx1224]

Marss honestly had this, and TOTALLY choked. He's such a strong player but his consistency is all over the place

[@thrillainthemanilla1409]

Why doesn’t Marss use the tilt stick trick with ZSS in order to stop her drift after flip kick? If you hold left stick towards your opponent and tilt stick in the opposite direction there is no drift after the kick and it would’ve saved him the second game when he got spiked because of it

[@jeepers3222]

He does do it but he opted for the regular kick which is usually optimal at that percentage. Also it’s the c stick not the tilt stick

[@Stick_Dinner]

Anybody know what had the audience so hype at 11:56?

[@Katakuri]

Probably something in Melee

[@freshplayz2709]

Some captain falcon spiked hungrybox when he was at 0

[@UnuUO]

@@freshplayz2709 that happened much later lol

[@freshplayz2709]

@@UnuUO o rlly? mb

[@178laaleros]

I am so glad sparg0 improved a lot from the ceo set it goes to show you never give up after a loss there is always another tournament to improve and try again. It also does not help cloud got buffed and zss got nerfed quite a lot. Maybe marss might try the joker???

[@fortressofsolitude2960]

There is no shame in losing to Sparg0.

[@urielleyva3736]

Two years ago Marss disrespect this kid in a tourney, now Spargo plays in another league

[@bringbringish]

Imo ZSS mains undervalue the importance of wavedash with ZSS. She has a committal jump (cause she has a very high jump height and she doesn't have aerials that don't last long and are disjointed) and depending on the MU she get her jumps baited. Wavedash can fake the jump squat animation and bait people trying to punish her jumps, like Sparg0 did in this match.

[@LoKing1337]

But you’re in sooo much fucking lag

[@raidiar2021]

Jesus christ that comeback felt demonic

[@rosestrohm7986]

Its crazy how balanced ultimate is that we have so many high/mid tiers in top 8: ZSS, Cloud, Byleth. In smash 4 it was just dominated by cloud, bayo, mario, all top tiers

[@survivorofthecurse717]

Don't forget Luigi and ZSS

[@hwanniggles187]

ZSS is not high tier. She is top tier for sure

[@survivorofthecurse717]

When was ZSS not is the better question

[@NurseBadTouch]

Damn marss lookin like cosmos out there

[@DavionLane]

Bro nah did you watch nario stream

[@mariocalderon6201]

14:39 zss sux

[@catolicoquaresma8851]

LOL

[@ravssb]

zss sux

[@BikiniSSBU]

that looks like Cloud SideB and upB

[@omegalilbchass8270]

@@BikiniSSBU both those moves hit when they shouldnt though

[@not_myosotis813]

6:00 Nair flipkick 💀

[@plz421]

This is how I decide whether to main ZSS or Cloud.

[@marcelo-ze6ng]

that nair flip kick should’ve been enough, players too good for her to work nowadays

[@zsoliddannys242]

Zss is better but Cloud is easier.

[@tabi3212]

I'm so happy SparGOAT is playing Cloud, and not Aegis

[@zsoliddannys242]

Lmao such a cringe name.

[@tabi3212]

@@zsoliddannys242 who?

[@billyhorchel5429]

@@zsoliddannys242 not a whole lotta room to talk man, your name is ZSolid Dannys 😂

[@jollama]

@@zsoliddannys242 ratioed

[@lucinamain6861]

WHY IS THIS BEING RECOMMENDED TO ME! I FELT THE PAIN LIVE AND THAT WAS TOO MUCH ALREADY!

[@mexicanmuslim]

Spargo killed himself and still won Wow

[@zsoliddannys242]

Marss stoped playing competitively for 2 years and still took a game from a top 3 player... Wow.

[@ellavadero625]

@@zsoliddannys242 bro hop off of Marss already. You definitely seem like the type of mf that would sneak into his room just to sniff his underwear

[@hwanniggles187]

@@zsoliddannys242 still doesnt change he lost the whole thing. Get your head out of your ass

[@voodooedits785]

@@zsoliddannys242 marss fanboys are sad

[@mexicanmuslim]

@@zsoliddannys242 Im not attacking mars, or saying he sucks. Your attitude and demeanor is showing. Cant you be happy for spargo? And be happy for mars? And not mock or mimic me? . cmon dude your better than that

[@ilyschool8974]

Remember when people thought cloud was mid tier

[@blackshadexl]

🤣🤣 fr tho

[@christianokoye9491]

@@blackshadexl He got buffed.

[@darkscept3r293]

Before his buffs tho

[@Sae23b1]

and then, were people saying that Cloud just could be good online, that Sparg0 could not get the same results with the character offline... so yeah, really happy Sparg0 proved cloud is A solid high tier

[@elitecombine5373]

Cloud was always good. And I am surprised out of all the characters Cloud got buffed. I always wonder what makes them buff or nerf characters.

[@BasedMamaJames617]

Dam what a comeback.

[@f.gutierrez6590]

I don't like marss that much but let's remember that this is spargo he's playing against, dude played great

[@lildan419r2]

Sparg0 got his payback

[@loganslocum4799]

Does anyone know. Where is void !!??

[@mightguy3578]

He lost to Riddles in losers

[@RealizedTruth20]

I remember when mars bodies spargo at ceo and bow spargo bodies Mars lol

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@RealizedTruth20]

@@jollama don't care

[@jollama]

@@RealizedTruth20 Well you cared enough to type…

[@RealizedTruth20]

Not as much as you to correct a made up players tag so...

[@Daniel-uy1sv]

@@RealizedTruth20 so? You replied again, get owned dipsit

[@usern4metak3ns]

wow. Sparg0 looking so good

[@druizcardenas312]

I know game 1 and 3 were close but jesus christ games 2 and 4 were dominant. I don't know how you could call this a close set.

[@adinv9257]

Just watched Ceo 2019 Marss vs Spargo lol

[@TheGeopigMan]

Top tier players: ... Too tier characters: "aM i A j0Ke To Y0u?!"

[@survivorofthecurse717]

?

[@doge8153]

What?

[@erickalvarez6486]

When you see Sparg0 1 stock vs 3 stock enemy you know he can still make things in his favour but Marss 1 stock enemy 3 is just over for him lol

[@JaystackLS]

Marss Gen 7 GF against leo says otherwise

[@Lorens.]

Have you even watched any other game?

[@darknesswave100]

Tell us you haven't watched any other game besides this one without telling us you haven't watched any game besides this one

[@erickalvarez6486]

@@Lorens. Consistently? Like 1 game is not enough though and we talking about top 10 not your locals yo, so yeah consistently Sparg0 and Leo are in another level, despite being 1 stocked vs 3 stock

[@erickalvarez6486]

@@JaystackLS Yeah he just lost so I doubt it

[@reccosevil]

Venga Spargooooo

[@Trattt]

I thought he was gonna pull out the joker ngl

[@rudeshrewd3804]

He had the same problem he when he lost to muteace , Playing with his food with those freaking grabs !

[@whiskoo9941]

definitely, spargo played with no fear and no shielding, marss was too panicked to adapt i think. definitely shouldve banned smashville imo, the amount of momentum that stage gave spargo was insane.

[@sphinxlegendgaming364]

Ese es mi México ,bien representado !!!

[@pauloportas6706]

Marss out of his depht here

[@l.modric6365]

9:35

[@NurseBadTouch]

9:55 man I hate the platforms in this game

[@exarack]

Why'd he fall out

[@jollama]

ZSSSUX

[@Izual-Anyel]

What a fukin match i just witnes

[@LazyNinjass]

There is no meta for characters, only for players.

[@jeffsiemens4485]

Too bad for Marss. Was rooting for him.

[@idiotnumbnuts8486]

Same

[@edDbalaM]

sparg0at the great ! fu cloud9 u should hire this kid how the best CLOUD representation !

[@zsoliddannys242]

Only cloud representation.

[@Egg-y0lk]

Marss needs to pick up a better character or something

[@evrydayimpraisinghim]

yeah zss really got nerfed and he is still pulling thru

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

He kinda plays Snake too but I don't think he has gotten the best results from him.

[@Bowlo_]

He’s slowly picking up Joker if you check out his KZbin channel

[@darknesswave100]

@@lokks2130 he beat everybody but the 2nd best player in the world and you say he needs to play better? Nice mental gymnastics you pulled out there to get to that conclusion

[@zsoliddannys242]

@@evrydayimpraisinghim her nerfs didnt do much tho... He just needs to actually grind the game, Hopefully offline stays here for the long run.

[@Ovedd-fq4jx]

Marss subió de peso :0

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

dang I thought marrs was gonna win it all but spargo stopped him

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@kris0375]

@@jollama *Maars

[@Xxblade17]

Yuhh

[@Luceloupgarou]

Am I the only one who felt like Marss was kinda running out of steam this set? He was still playing pretty good, but I still feel like there was some mental fatigue going on.

[@gunslinger9786]

he used up all his energy vs kola it seems

[@av6207]

Hard to believe a high level player like Mars loses to Spargo's Cloud...Zero Suit Samus has so many mechanics that she should easily be able to overcrowd Cloud...but that's just my opinion.

[@LoKing1337]

It’s a loosing MU

[@gunslinger9786]

whos gonna tell him cloud beats zss :/

[@CoachSamGlenn]

3 stock? Didn’t happen.. JV3? Nah nahh.. did happen *commentators curse

[@mightguy3578]

There was a JV3

[@itz_x_salvation395]

SPARGOD

[@yedessjr]

Almost..

[@cisforchandelure1722]

Bummer

[@yung.alchemist]

really disappointed to see marss lose this, idk why but i really dont like spargo. Hes obviously one of the best players in the world and really talented, but i tend to root for people whose personalities i enjoy and hes just honestly really fucking lame to me lol, i cant ever get myself to root for him or like him hes just so wack and boring, especially compared to marss who is cool and funny af

[@darkyu3229]

Imagine, imagine comparing personalities of the players in a competitive game and base your preference in that

[@gunslinger9786]

@@darkyu3229 I mean that's what people do in any kind of competitive sport, I don't see why it would be different in a E sport

[@John_James]

ZSS nerfs😢

[@yemoochy9553]

Spargo Beat the hell out of Marss

[@ribjoh98]

Marss and light make ultimate exciting!

[@taylorbruceehlert9067]

Tragic.

[@giraphite_8976]

Mars should’ve just camped him out when he got that game 1 stock lead and he probably would’ve won.

[@blueknight8079]

iirc ESAM suggested as much in one of the Panda videos they did together and Marss absolutely refused. That was the day he earned my respect.

[@Jake-oo5gy]

lmao what a shitty strategy

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@Tohlemiach]

Love seeing Marss lose.

[@mightguy3578]

Good for you

[@idiotnumbnuts8486]

Why?

[@zsoliddannys242]

Get a life ? He doesnt even know you exist lol.

[@Myst1c_OW]

#zsssux

[@Tiggy227]

Unfortunate

[@robsquare2622]

genesis marss not built diff

[@zsoliddannys242]

Top 8 tho...

[@kuno0009]

Rip Marrs but on to losers

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@Exhaiel89]

Being that Marss is so on his own jock, not upset to see him get dunked on.

[@Megidolaon_]

sparg0 is fake hype

[@zsoliddannys242]

Agree, he is just a new flavor, his time will pass tbh.

[@voodooedits785]

Ratio

[@darkyu3229]

Here in the bottom of yt comments you can find the most stupids comments like this one

[@nachot6592]

Marss' matches become boring as time passes because when he faces someone stronger, he just flat gives up from the middle of the match. He didn't even try afterwards.

[@BudgetNugs]

Mara is washed up.... :/

[@jeepers3222]

Dude he’s doing incredible this genesis he’s not washed at all

[@Berettadv]

I don't know if getting into top 8 at one of the most stacked tournaments in ultimate is considered "washed"

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@karanveersehra6336]

SPOILERS FOR TOP 8 Honestly, this tourney is not going as well as I thought it would be, Marss lost to Myran and got eliminated. Tweek and Esam did not do well whatsoever and my favourite player Riddles lost to Sisqui again.

[@tiranodont]

Marss… perdedor 🤣🤣🤣

[@mightguy3578]

Marss… top 8

[@darknesswave100]

Man beat everybody else but the 2nd best player in the world but he's washed? stop the gargantuan cap

[@philosophyman]

I think marss shoulda played snake

[@philosophyman]

Zss sux

[@manoqueenz]

@@philosophyman Two minutes after your original comment you were able to come up with the meaningful amendment "Zss sux". Really inspired by your mental gymnastics!

[@philosophyman]

@@manoqueenz ur ma says its bedtime bro maybe you should go to sleep so you can make it through middleschool without crying.

[@exarack]

#zsssux