Once again another honest review. I speak as a Buccaneer owner and we paid 31.5K in 2019 for our Cruiser. To think now it’s 43k is mind blowing. Totally get what you say about some of the fittings as we agree they could and maybe should be better. Look forward to the next review in the meantime we’ll stick with what we have
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave, our friend had a 2018 Buccaneer and I just didnt feel the 2022 matched up to that..but that was my feeling and I am sure others would disagree with me. Enjoy your Buccaneer, they are a lovely caravan 👍 Karina
@marklorna75132 жыл бұрын
Personally, I wouldn't pay 43k for a caravan, depreciation alone would put me off. I saw a dealership today who is starting to see the market stagnating, tough times ahead I think, the boom last year cannot be sustained, it will level out, prices might even drop and dare I say it, supply might outstrip demand, that hasn't happened for a while, great reviews as always 👍
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark and Lorna.. I think you may be right, belts are tightening. I know we have noticed more money going out each week to cover the rising costs. Have a great week.. Karina 😊
@fester.2 жыл бұрын
coachman lusso 2 looks far nicer than this, the Buccaneer Bermuda 2022 just doesn't have the wow factor anymore, great review
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 😊
@Mr1967flyingv2 жыл бұрын
Agree, it would be the Lusso 2 for me, if I had the cash.
@colinrimmer7892 жыл бұрын
It’s a nice van Karina but, apart from the E&P and underfloor heating I can’t really see where the extra money is. Thanks once again for a really balanced review.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Colin.. 😊 Karina
@Coffeevaners2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Karina 👌 👏 Not sure who the target market is. Probably seasonal caravaners. I suspect in present times it's not going to be cheap dragging that around the country and with such a small payload, would it be practical to tour with 🤔. It's a nice caravan but spending that sort of money we think like you, the wow just isn't there and that was Allys comment when we viewed one at the open day. Good to see you back reviewing 😀 Thake care and stay safe. Ally and Alan 😍😍
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both..I am sure they will sell well due to the Buccaneer following but the increase in price will put many off who will hang on to their current model. Yes, it’s a big unit to tow at two tonnes . Have a great week and I am glad you love your Elddis 😊👍 Karina
@simonbaxter80012 жыл бұрын
I'd expect an engine and steering wheel in it for that price. How much do these actually cost to build? Can't be more than £8K to £10K in Bill of Material costs, especially at the manufacturers volume purchasing rates. Whilst 2020/21 was a killer time for production and demand was outweighing supply, they are going to reach a point soon where demand drops right off and people start leaving the caravanning community. The manufacturers must think customers have money to burn ... just as the cost of living, fuel and energy prices outrun wages! Another great review BTW. The styling of the Buccaneers is still up there with the best.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon..thats a very fair and balanced comment. Have a great week 😊 Karina
@dafarmer212 жыл бұрын
I think your way out on costs there. I’m a buyer and raw material costs have increased 100% since august last year. Aluminium is around £12,000 per tonne Brass is £8,500 per tonne Stainless steel is around £7,500 per tonne and plastics are astronomical. Plus as a manufacturer we are experiencing courier surcharges energy surcharges heat treatment and plating surcharges. Not to mention extra costs in wages NI and pension contributions. All these have to be factored in to the costs. Lead Times are going out all the time and with orders well into 2023. Prices will never come down. I’ve just took delivery of a Buccaneer Commodore 2022 paid £42k with air con and motor movers had the weight upgraded to 2 tonne cant see a problem on payload I always put heavy items in my car Worth every penny in my opinion the price you mention is for 2023 models.
@hmallett Жыл бұрын
Approximate retail prices for the fridge is £2.5k, for the E&P system £3.5k, for the Aldi boiler £1.5k, so I think that your materials costs estimate seems low to me.
@Worldwarone8532 жыл бұрын
Hi Karina, thanks for doing the review on the buccaneer. I will give you my penny worth, for the price l think l would of liked more of a payload and not have the self levelling system to increase the vans payload, l would like to of seen for the money soft close cupboard doors and the pull up extension table in the kitchen would be a lot better if they had a pullout flap at the front so not to have the tightness around the door entrance. The door to the bathroom those not seem to go right to the roof height so would not cut out any cooking smells or I’m l not looking at it right? I payed just on 31,000£ for my Swift Challenger 8ft wide and to be honest l prefer what l have even though it’s a lovely caravan but not worth the ticket price of 43,000 l would of said more 32,000 for that spec. Like with you it does not have the WOW factor for me. Think they need to go back to the drawing board to be honest. The bedroom is also quite basic too. To have leather seats 1400£ take it that would be also the headboard in the bedroom. Very over priced for something that’s not even upholstered other than the headboard. Paul and Linda
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul and Linda..some good points and suggestions and yes, there is a gap above the door. I would imagine they have used the 2000kg Alko chassis which limits the payload, I would like a higher payload on a bigger caravan like this. We took our caravan to a weigh bridge, you may have seen the vlog, and what a shock we got! Have a great week.. Karina 😊
@CarrsCaravan2 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely with you on this one Karina. I didn’t blow me away for the price tag. The living area was nice, but the bedroom just felt really cold and lifeless, very sparse indeed. I did like the decals on the outside and the overall externals look nice, but that front locker would be a total no go for me.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Dan and looks like you want be changing your Isonzo anytime soon. Have a great weekend, Karina
@rubberdc2 жыл бұрын
Good evening Karina , that front locker has a great action to it , it lifts and misses the windows , so no scraping and smooth to operate with one hand .
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and I hope you are keeping well 😊
@totaltouring8292 жыл бұрын
There are going to be a lot of jobs lost in the industry if these manufacturers don’t STOP and think. With in the next 12 months we are going to see everyone looking and prioritising their budgets and new caravans at this price are not going to sell. A 2 ton caravan and a car to pull plus heavy fuel costs are going to be major factors.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment 😊 Have a great week, Karina
@mulberryaddict9382 жыл бұрын
We looked at this one, went with a coachman laser 620 in the end. Found the finish better quality. Had e&p added, what a game changer!
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
E&P is a excellent system, we looked at having it on our Adria but couldn’t afford it. If I had the money it is something I would have fitted. Thanks for watching 😊
@HowardB542 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back doing what you do best Karina and presumably Jules behind the old Super 8 camera ! Superb review of a very underwhelming ( especially at the price) van with poor payload and heavy noseweight. I thought my Touareg could handle most vans with a 140kg towbar limit but this Buccy would be at the limit. L shape lounge hmmm… even for 2 people seems awkward for lounging feet up watching (big) tele! Thought the veneer and plastic screw covers looked tacky too. Thanks again Karina x ( being inside a big van - don’t you miss the good old giant Isonzo? 😁) Regards Howard
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Howard, I hope you and Sandra are okay..a fair comment as always. Yes, I do miss my Isonzo, it would still be top of my list if I went back to a caravan. 😊 Take care, Karina
@hmallett Жыл бұрын
Super 8! 🤣
@hjhwillow2 жыл бұрын
Great honest review Karina, appreciate that 👍 we currently have a Coachman Xcel 850 but we are always on the lookout for the next level, which I'm sorry to say, is not this, I agree with the other comments, finish/quality is no where near a Coachman, we'll stick with what we've got. For the record, German designs are catching our eye, so far ahead of our 'white boxes'. Interesting to see what happens over the next couple of years, with the cost of living rising so highly, this 'leisure' industry will definitely feel the pinch. Keep up the good work, love the posts 👍
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. I am at the Coachman launch at the end of June so see if there is anything new. With Kabe buying them out they can only get better too. Exciting time ahead for Coachman I think 👍 Karina
@rubberdc2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the self levelling feet and the fact that it is difficult to raise them manually .
@petebird71712 жыл бұрын
Agreed, not too much of a wow factor for the money, good honest review, 👍👍👍👍👍
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Pete.. hope you are keeping well 😊
@anneshirley17482 жыл бұрын
Very nice caravan but I would find it too big but it depends what you want and what you're used to I suppose! £43000 does seem a lot of money though!! Very nice all the same! Great review Karina! Love to you and Jules xxx
@Rowlf2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. I own an Affinity and see the same craftsmanship flaws in the Buccaneer, sad for the price. The payload is a cheek, in the prospectus already overloaded. Mover, climate and awning attached then I may still take a toothbrush.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your thoughts on what you have seen. Enjoy your caravan and have a fantastic weekend 😊 Karina
@ashhammond2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see an extra £34,000 of value over our £10,000 6 birth 2010 Lunar. Yes, ours does have slightly dated interior and a few marks on it. But I’m not scared to use it and allow our kids to have a good time in it. At that price it almost becomes a show piece. For us it’s all out £ per smile. We’ll spend the £34,000 difference on travelling aboard whilst using the our van for our OK holiday. 👍🏼
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely and it is great to hear the enjoyment you get from your caravan. The important thing is having happy times away 😊 Very good point to make..thanks for watching, Karina
@jodyrafter2 жыл бұрын
I would expect to see the radio included I don’t think it’s worth that price it is a beautiful van but totally not worth the price great review great to see you back 🥰🥰🥰
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joanne, I believe the radio is fitted and included in the purchase, thank you for watching 😊 Karina
@simonbaxter80012 жыл бұрын
The Crusader Borealis includes radio and a 32" TV, and is still £8k cheaper!
@hmallett Жыл бұрын
@@simonbaxter8001 Crusader Borealis is over £40k now! 😲
@simonbaxter8001 Жыл бұрын
@@hmallett £41K at the NEC show in October. It was £30,100 when we were looking at getting one back in Jan 2021!
@hmallett Жыл бұрын
@@simonbaxter8001 Wow, that’s one heck of an increase.
@davidwilliams25192 жыл бұрын
Hi Karina. Another great review thank you. One thing is slightly confusing and that is wether or not the 32inch. Tv is included in the otr price. All press I’ve seen so far shows the tv on the Bermuda and the Barracuda but no one actually says it’s included in price or an extra. Tia. Have a great week. Good luck with the new house. Regard’s. David
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, another subscriber has commented that the TV is included with the Bermuda 😊
@louisewild41492 жыл бұрын
Fantastic fair and honest review as always. Lou
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lou 😊
@Baddco2 жыл бұрын
Air con 30kg motor movers 2 x 28 kg. In reality no payload avaiable after gas bottles cutlery and plates. Ridiculous mtplm for such a van should be nearer 2200. It is easly towed by Touareg, Range Rover, Audi Q8 or equivalents.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
I agree that using a higher rated Alko chassis would be a good choice as it gives the buyer the option to up plate. I wonder if cost comes in to it sometimes. Thank you for watching, Karina
@heyholetstow2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you see any Xplore 304s there?
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and off the top of my head no, their website will list what they have in but now you mention it that could be a good one to review 🤔
@Andeecee2 жыл бұрын
A great review Karina & Jules. As others have said it’s quite nice but definitely not good value at £43K. Being 8’ wide and so heavy it will need someone with caravan towing experience to pull this (plus a suitable tow car of course). It’s quite concerning that a ‘newbie’ could get one of these and be on the road without any experience!
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and yes, you’re going to be a big outfit on the road. I would like to think it should be a stable tow with the twin axle and weight, as long as its loaded correctly! Have a great weekend, Karina
@jaylepp Жыл бұрын
@Here we tow , what’s your opinion between the Lusso 11 and the adria alphina 623 please
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
You would be best looking at both as they are very different caravans. See which feels best for you if you are considering them. I would also look at the Laser range in comparison to the Lusso. The Lusso is quite dark inside compared to the others so it depends on what sort of interior you are looking for. 😊
@danrobotham33762 жыл бұрын
43k is for a 2023 model. Whilst the gas locker isn’t wide, the accessibility is far far better than the previous models. Leather 🤮 Lacks a socket on the offside in the kitchen area. Good overview, honest too, great you’ve highlighted how the flimsyness can be improved,, just could have done with its biggest change being spoken about, the new internal composite wallboard which is a single piece so no more joint tape and being a plastic, it’s now resistant water absorption. They just need to rid the wooden baton framework and rid of the dreaded damp which many suffer with.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information Dan 👍 and thank you for watching 😊 Karina
@HitchUpAndTow2 жыл бұрын
I hear you talking, but all I hear is £43,000, where is my GT spray, think i'm having an attack LOL
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
😂 Thanks for watching and hope you are both well 😊
@graemeroberts57302 жыл бұрын
Another good review. I suspect these are aimed at the seasonal pitch market.Don’t fancy towing this beast in the UK or E.U.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graeme, it would make a good seasonal caravan with a nice full awning attached. I would like to this it would be a stable tow but you would want a large SUV for this one. Have a great weekend 😊 Karina
@bernardscott17832 жыл бұрын
And you’ve got to put a motor mover afterwards. No soft close draws either.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Bernard
@Elmwood-ze3cr2 жыл бұрын
Very honest review Karina, apart from the outside it looked very basic and certainly would not interest me in the slightest far too much money for what it is
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 😊 Karina
@m9dlh2 жыл бұрын
Very honest review - thanks.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 😊 Karina
@liammcmenamin41502 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual, very pricey for what you get though
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Liam 😊
@chrisr547 Жыл бұрын
Perfect layout for me, just dont like the colour if the wood. This layout in a crusader for the lighter colour scheme, and not wood frame construction, would prob be my perfect caravan.
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@berniebne82432 жыл бұрын
Inflation seems to rearing its ugly head once again, roughly 10% per year. Its also becoming common over here in many areas. The UK seems to have motor movers here in Australia we have arguments. "Go left,"" what do you mean left, whos left '"etc etc. How are the renovations going. I would imagine it is a very stressful time, I wish you well. It used to be my job when I lived in the UK. My advice is careful planning & sticking to the plan.
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Morning Bernie..motor movers are very popular, especially with the size of some pitches and room to manoeuvre on site if you have a large unit. The house is getting their slowly thanks, we are a few steps forward. I now have a joiner booked in for August along with the exterior of the house being rerendered. Fingers crossed by September my carpets will be down and that will be the house fully renovated! Lets see if it all works out 😂 Have a lovely weekend 😊 Karina
@normanbell32882 жыл бұрын
How much hot water does it hold
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
You would have to check the Elddis website but the usual amount is 12 litres of hot water. With the Alde system on hot it will quickly heat water that refills in to the tank. Thanks for watching, Karina www.alde.co.uk/faq/
@danielbrown4253 Жыл бұрын
Would a Mazda 6 hatchback diesel with towbar tow it
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
This website is very good for doing a suitably match towcar.info/ Personally, I think the Buccaneers are too heavy and the noseweight too high for aMazda 6, but I am sure you would get differing opinions depending who you ask. Thanks for watching 😊
@user-fu8xe9il9x2 жыл бұрын
I can’t see any value in this caravan above 35k tops!
@martinmason62342 жыл бұрын
43 grand for a tourer I dont think so
@rob204522 жыл бұрын
What is the insulation is it grade 3 ?
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is Robert
@clabby1542 жыл бұрын
You do get the radio and 32" TV included 👍
@HereWeTow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve 😊👍
@karllake89762 жыл бұрын
Way to much money I’m seeing a £30k van there I wouldn’t pay it
@leearmsby73512 жыл бұрын
No
@saffieification2 жыл бұрын
no totally not worth £43 grand
@stevelevick8705 Жыл бұрын
Cheap feel doors and drawers and very little usable workspace in the kitchen ? This is supposed to be top of the range Very very standard and no wow factor as the lady says
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 😊
@caravanstuff28272 жыл бұрын
The 2023 Bermuda has increased by 3.5k , their just being greedy now!!.😡💕🇬🇧🇺🇦
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
Prices are making then unaffordable 🤷🏼♀️
@Nick-cy2tn Жыл бұрын
These are for rich pensioners that take them out twice a year, crazy pricing
@HereWeTow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@thecallow23812 жыл бұрын
I thought she said £40+k jeez
@samueltheman33532 жыл бұрын
A nice Van, but NO UK Tourer Van is worth circa 40K!!!!