buddy rich lays in to his horn player while doing live gig

[@mrjohnstgeorge]

I saw him one night in Miami. Dinner then show. He was the show. The dinner ran over (for me and my date). We were still eating whie he was playing. We ate through most of the set. Our table was just about in frnot of him and he was watching us as we ate. Then desert and coffee arrived and im chatting with mt date, eating, and he is GLARING at us. Set ends. He makes a few comments, then walks out. He was pissed! He was a dinner band that night. Next year rolss around, he's back and so am I with my girl. Dinner and show, only this time it was HURRY UP AND EAT. NO FOOD DURING THE SHOW!!! He must have said something.

[@paulwunder]

Everyone has a bad day, but Buddy's bad days were just about every day!

[@petepoulos]

Nah they weren't

[@assignmentearth2899]

Saw Buddy in the spring of '86 at a honkytonk in Ft Wth called Billy Bob's. It was a concert at 3 in the afternoon for of audience of about 30 fold up chairs, and there was maybe 30 people there to fill those chairs. They refused to turn off the music on the dance floors in the surrounding areas of the building. There was a lone cowboy dancing with a girl on the dance floor. In the middle of a tune, Buddy went into one of his patented drum solos - cymbals crashing, all kinda fills - and the cowboy yells from way over on the other dance floor,... "Go Buddy! Go!"....Buddy did a drum roll crescendo up into a cymbal crash/kill, and said, "I will will when you shutup, cowboy". Then went back into his solo. We raised our arms and screamed out in appreciation for this. I also remember him coming up to the mic at one point and looked at the crowd and said, "Wait till I getta holda my manager for this". Memorable show.

[@scottjohnsoltis7748]

Buddy made two great contributions to the world: great drumming and these hilarious tapes, RIP Buddy my friend!!!

[@georgedavis8412]

I’d say one other contribution was that he also kept ulcer physicians in business. Can I get an “amen,” band mates?

[@roncar1761]

@@georgedavis8412 I am sure their are other band leaders in the past or present that are "GOAT" as being a JERK! My guess his attitude was to best a dog until it did what he wanted it to do. I wonder if he would do the same to "Cujo" and get the results he wanted!

[@georgedavis8412]

@@roncar1761 it’s only a guess on my part, but it seems to me like Buddy had a personality disorder of some sort - maybe borderline personality disorder.

[@georgedavis8412]

@@roncar1761 it’s only a guess on my part, but it seems to me like Buddy had a personality disorder of some sort - maybe borderline personality disorder.

[@georgedavis8412]

@@roncar1761 it’s only a guess on my part, but it seems to me like Buddy had a personality disorder of some sort - maybe borderline personality disorder.

[@wattheheck6010]

I have no time for egos. Life is too short to be a jerk, even if you're talented.

[@keithkoenig5320]

I agree 👍. Saw an interview of Buddy from the Mike Douglas show years ago on KZbin, in which he took a giant verbal dump on Country Music, and how more people should listen to Jazz. He said something like it was just "simple music for hillbillies." I like some Country Music. Definitely more than I ever liked Jazz. Punk Rock is pretty simple, but it brought me a lot of joy then, and still does now. Man, if ANY music brings joy and light to your life, that should be enough, I believe. Buddy Rich makes me NOT want to listen to Jazz...

[@Ovp609]

Buddy Rich may have been one of the best on drums. But no excuses for being a pri** with others. God gave him a very special talent, but he couldn't handle it very well. He was a too self-centered, to egotistical, and pretty much a big mouth. Now some may say he was the best and could act like he did... NO. Not true. Don't care "how good" anyone is at anything. No reason to act like a di**. It's THAT simple. Great drummer. Big jerk at times.

[@thomasanguita6568]

Incorrect, you have no time for jazz.

[@anguslean4058]

Buddy Rich was discharged from the service because of mental illness. It followed him his whole life.

[@plasticweapon]

who cares what you have time for? it was his band, and they weren't meeting his standards.

[@alphacentauri8083]

Sounds more like an outtake from "Goodfellas" with Tommy retaliating after being told to go get his "shine box".

[@errorsofmodernism7331]

My dad was like Buddy Rich in that he could blow up for reasons known only to him at any time

[@1drumnut]

Some year ago I ran into Richie Cole and told him I always figured Buddy was the way he was with his band members because he knew he could roll into any major city and find 16 guys to play the charts he wanted them to be played. Ritchie told me that (a) Buddy was very nice to him, (b) it was the opposite of that that drove Buddy crazy. The charts were so complex - the sectional pieces so demanding, you had to have a full-time group playing them to do them justice. He thought is was human nature that drove Buddy crazy - every so often (like pro sports) the team loses and the band is flat. For someone who drove himself so hard, having a flat band when you're trying to prove your the greatest was frustrating.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

his band was flat a lot

[@donsmith3857]

@@harpoon_bakery162 mostly b flat

[@bradentonguy50]

I met Richie too. Great player. He was right about Buddy. Buddy could and would not accept mediocrity. It drove him crazy.

[@bradentonguy50]

@@harpoon_bakery162 Lazy 20 year olds.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

@@bradentonguy50 i heard he was a genius and wore a wig, not sure though, I know he knew Johnny Carson and they hung out but very infrequently because they were both so busy, but could put a few back and Johnny's personality when drunk was like Buddy Rich when he was sober.

[@petersampson4635]

I was a horn player in a band once and whilst this was not said directly to me, I knew I should go home and find a real job. And did. "That's life" as Frank used to sing. 👍

[@molotulo8808]

Yes, Frank Zappa was a super composer. Zappa would have loved to play with Buddy, but Zappa was known as a band leader who respected his band members and crews. Everyone live to play with Zappa because he like to help other musicians advance their careers. But maybe Buddy was correct and the horn player was a scumbag for some reason.

[@silverfishimperetrix4818]

@@molotulo8808 I'm pretty sure that Peter Sampson was talking about Frank Sinatra, not Frank Zappa.

[@rphillip1086]

@@molotulo8808 You should hear Frank Zappa sing Begin the Beguine and Polka Dots and Moonbeams. And what about when Zappa would call Buddy Rich on stage a lot sometimes with Sammy Davis Jr.. Frank Zappa was the chairman of the board.

[@FlopFlap1]

Anne Frank said that?

[@lorenzosyquia4769]

@@FlopFlap1 lmao

[@sinatrafan9856]

Buddy had just finished playing Beulah Witch before this incident with Dave Stahl. Happened at Disneyland in September of 1982.

[@MrDPdrum]

The happiest place on earth 😂

[@starsong8665]

@@MrDPdrumAhaha 😂 ahaha 😂

[@vinnykster]

Yelling at a band member during a show or ANYTIME for that matter is NEVER cool and doesn't solve problems. It is unacceptable behaviour. It makes everything worse. It makes everybody TENSE. Musicians need to be relaxed to play well. I get being perfectionist but that's no excuse. Being Buddy Rich is no excuse either. One time a drummer yelled at me during a gig. He was very irate too! I left the band not too long after that. He fucked up. Mistakes are going to happen. Thats LIVE playing for ya! It's just the way it is! I've seen a lot of concerts. I've never seen a perfect one. I love the late greats Dimebag Darrells and Vinnie Paul's attitude toward live gigs. Before every show they'd say VAN HALEN! Meaning just go for it and lets have fun and not worry about mistakes. I agree with that. Yelling at bandmates is 1000 percent WRONG.

[@johndoe1765]

THAT,S RIGHT NO ADDED TENSION IT WILL NOT WORK

[@ericdreizen1463]

But these were world-famous bandleaders, not just some guy in a lounge. They were in a position to handle such situations the way they wanted. "You don't like it, get out..." as he said on the tapes. High level professionals like that NEVER tolerate being messed with. Most are gone now, but the few that are left are the same way.

[@kevinlewis1017]

Yes maybe unprofessional but I've been in bands where they talk behind your back to play it safe to the fans, that's just as bad or worse. 2 faced. At least with buddy you knew.

[@danlc95]

I played in a hair metal tribute show back in 2009. One of my first gigs, the keyboard player went nuts because of an ending. He would also berate the bassist often. Immediately after the the performance, I exchanged numbers with the young lady that captivated the attention of the entire band. After packing up my drums, I addressed the band, notifying them of my immediate departure. When the keyboardist, who was also the band leader asked why, I told him it was because of him. That he had anger management issues, and that I don't need that in my life. When I left they young lady called me as I was driving home, and invited me over to listen to records. It was on of the best nights of my life. I later returned to the band, and the keyboardist never, ever came at me like that ever again. In fact, there was a time when he and I were the only two members of that incarnation of the band. Karma, poor decision making, and lack of impulse control allowed the new members of the band to blackmail him into handing over the rights to the business. His extramarital affairs became the ammunition they needed to accomplish this - long after my departure.

[@SuperEddietv]

Says the soft, new school, triggered "musician" type.

[@geoffnelson4777]

This might be at Disneyland... apparently, BR had to apologize to their management after this incident.

[@robbyrob0723]

Funny because I saw him point and fire a trumpet player on stage at Disneyland lol!

[@damianbroderick3913]

Yeh Mickey was laughing so hard his 'head' fell off!

[@samdog8087]

The guy played through a heart attack, you better be good.

[@gwiyomikim5988]

People that knew him said he was much easier to get along with after April 1987.

[@Gk2003m]

I saw him live many times. One night around 1977 he was very happy with the band’s performance. I got to go hang with him, because my drum teacher was a friend of his…. it was a good night. Some years later I saw him on a not so good night, where he spent much of the gig screaming at the pianist “PLAY THE F _ _ KING TIME!!” Very temperamental guy, but there was not, is not, and never will be another who can play drums like that.

[@philosopher0076]

@Lancelot Arc You didn't live in his shoes brother. And high energy, genius type people are often hyper, demanding and not fitting into our social world easily.

[@soilmanted]

I found his drumming to be quite impressive. I did not enjoy listening to it. His music, like the hair in his hairpiece, did not come from inside. It was for show; it was not something that had substance. It was about how things looked, rather than about how things were.

[@pgroove163]

@Lancelot Arc exactly..who cares !...all that matters is how the artist plays his instrument.. and Buddy Rich was one of the greatest 🥁

[@pgroove163]

@@soilmanted completely disagree... love his music..the greatest ?.. not even important to me.. just an incredible player who could drive a band..i guess just different strokes for different folks

[@soilmanted]

@@pgroove163 You say that "how the artist plays his instrument" is all that matters? To me that sounds analogous to saying, about a writer, that how big her vocabulary is, how inventive her syntax is, is all that matters. I think it also matters: what she has to say. How does that make me think, and make me feel.

[@completelygonerecordings]

After hearing his outbursts, if he had asked me to join his band, I would have had to decline the offer.

[@jeffreystark75]

A smart idea.I would do the same and I love Buddy's band.

[@danielcastillo4537]

Buddy was the original "Not my tempo" guy!

[@robotron17]

I like the rhythm of his hi-hat combined with the rhythm of his voice at 0:30. Very loopable. - Notice he even plays along with "be right back"... ha ha!

[@danthedewman1]

He was that way because his hair piece kept falling off

[@petepoulos]

Your that way because your balls fell off

[@crooning4leftovers125]

Brilliant drummer, thorough prick!

[@RetiredLover]

At least he excelled in two areas, I have difficulty in mastering one.

[@Alsatiagent]

@America First Patriot Rich was an angry and damaged man. That kind of behaviour is almost always related to childhood trauma. It has nothing to do with perfectionism or artistic merit. His nastiness was not reserved only for bandmates.

[@spumemonk11]

@America First Patriot . You sound like complete moron and I bet you're a trump supporter as well.

[@ericmalone3213]

You take a band out under your own name and see what happens when 1000 problems and pressures pile up. It's easy to snipe from the side lines. Try getting in the driver's seat as bandleader and do it yourself, touring constantly, trying to manage young players who want to.take liberties with your material, dealing with life on the road, unforeseen problems that thwart your performance potential, &c &c. " thorough prick"? Thorough ignorance & inexperience on your behalf. Buddy's longtime friends adored him & were devoted to him. He was a very generous person, & did a lot of great things for people over several decades.

[@silva777]

Takes one to know one.

[@thomascronin720]

Met buddy a few times & talked to some band members. He really was a narcissist. Could be nice to fans at times. Number 1 thing about him though is his snare drum playing. Still blows me away.

[@Augfordpdoggie]

He was fast no question but his fills were always the same nothing original

[@mtp4430]

I saw him with a drummer friend of mine in the '80s on Long Island in a club called My Father's Place. You had to walk off the side of the stage, and then down the stairs to get to the dressing room. So we waited by the side of the stage. When my friend and I approached him, he didn't seem in any mood to be approached. My friend said you're my idol and extended his hand. Buddy walked right past and said, "Yeah great." My friend said, someday I hope to do what you just did up there. Buddy looked back and said, "Keep fucking dreaming kid. Good fucking luck with that" He was not a very humble man 😂

[@HankFinkle11]

@@Augfordpdoggie baloney

[@randybailin4902]

Buddy later found success as a motivational speaker.

[@forgetaboutit1069]

Interesting how we all know who is Buddy Rich but we don’t know the horn player.

[@loucontino4804]

Whose name was on that Marquis? And that's what it's all about!

[@videos4mydad]

The lesson here is kids, don't put up with an asshole boss.

[@douglasknoll3500]

videos4yourdad like YOU...?

[@HankFinkle11]

You can always quit.

[@calihamlin324]

Can someone caption what was said in quotes?

[@hedylamarr1637]

He loved the Osmonds

[@Raughwe]

The Osmonds were relentless perfectionists. In fact, truthfully, they are monster talents.

[@hedylamarr1637]

@@Raughwe Yes you're right they were brilliant..I believe Donnie did some vocals on one of Chicago's albums

[@nealsausen4651]

He said facetiously!

[@youtoo2233]

Buddy always seemed so nice on Johnny Carson, I guess he respected Johnny a lot and didn't want to act like an ass

[@joshuajopp2896]

Johnny was one of the few that respected the drums... especially when music featured the drummer, unlike the days of new where it features a costume and human pressing buttons. Buddy deserved to act any way he suited. ;)

[@funkster007]

Sometimes. Even though Buddy was being silly, he could overdo the smartass act at times. Kind of cringeworthy. And Johnny would look slightly annoyed. Only guy who could pull that off smoothly was Rickles.

[@bourbonlover2713]

His artistic contribution cannot be denied, but he was a narcissistic asshole and everyone knew it. You know who was the ultimate drum god/ gentleman? Neil Peart. He never had anything bad to say about anything or anyone.

[@hubbsllc]

Or heck, Louis Bellson - a contemporary of Buddy's operating in the same genre with a range of bands. By all accounts Louis was an absolute joy and I wish I had met him when he was still touring and giving clinics.

[@myroncohen7619]

Louie was very kind and helpful..Not a bad bone in his entire body!

[@SAHBfan]

There were plenty of other great band leaders of great bands who had reputations for being really nice guys to work for. The Count and The Duke, Louie Bellson, Woody Herman, Maynard Fergusson... There is no good reason to treat people like that, even if they do screw up.

[@davegraff-gu7ix]

Had the pleasure to meet Bill Chase, who spoke in our high school bandroom at length before his performance. A positive guy full of enthusiasm. Not a hint of being self absorbed.

[@lordmjh]

Nowadays this with the workplace harassment. It would be great to clear out all the background noises and pick up just the audio and then put it to one of his drum beats and have his tirade syncopated with the music.

[@rphillip1086]

Maybe that's one of the reasons why good music like this is NOT made today. And maybe, if that's not the reason , then maybe the reason is because of people's attitudes like you expressed here.

[@hawkrider88]

When Buddy fired you....you were fired. Until he hired you back, which he did all the time.

[@nairbas392]

He only ever hired people back because Steve Marcus convinced him too.

[@arame29]

@@nairbas392 I thought his daughter did the convincing

[@nairbas392]

Andrew Chaplowitz Her too

[@bevofrancis8030]

@Big Bill O'Reilly fool!

[@robpelick7460]

@Big Bill O'Reilly cool it, chump

[@jeffreystark75]

I've heard Buddy's out bursts on tape.I'd rather work for Maynard,Stan, or the Count for less money.A freind of mine played bari sax in Kenton's band (Dan Landis,78'-79')and was treated well.I've met Stan.He was a gentleman.

[@WhyTheHorseface]

My boss ever talked to me like that I’d break his fingers.

[@plasticweapon]

who are you kidding?

[@bikefixer]

Didn't Rich also have a black belt? No point in arguing with him.

[@antibulletdodger101]

Like a black belt in Karate ever made anyone good at fighting... When the UFC started it took two seconds to see thru all those exotic fighting styles. When the Karate guys took the classic stance and the fighting started, they had no idea what they were doing and all of them lost, beaten up badly. That´s why Karate is no longer a thing in real fighting competitions.

[@vincentzito3933]

I like Gene Krupas personality better..

[@scottpollack1007]

Very true! Unfortunately, Krupa couldn’t play the drums half as good as Buddy Rich! Rich was a complete egotistical jerk but, the Best Drummer ever!

[@synthguy7774]

Louie Belson was a more respectable drummer than Buddy Rich because he had to work in order to be in Buddy's League.

[@scottpollack1007]

@@synthguy7774 I agree 100%! Louie was a fantastic drummer and unlike Buddy Rich, a very likable guy!

[@damianbroderick3913]

@@scottpollack1007 Not true- he was more than half as good- had other pluses to his playing- look a bit harder.

[@damianbroderick3913]

@@synthguy7774 You think B Rich didn't have to 'work' in order to get where he did? A little research will tell you otherwise.

[@markhelfgott2619]

Couldn’t understand a word said.

[@danielwang7793]

Very bad sound, but I could hear Buddy telling the guy to "get off the bandstand before I fucking kill you". His usual classy self.

[@chasefreak]

Ah, this must be the incident w Dave Stahl...this was in 1982. Both Dave and Lin Biviano came back every couple of years or so to play on Buddy's band when somebody either quit or got sacked or the position needed to be filled ASAP. Lin Biviano had come back on the band at the beginning of 1982 and was fired by Buddy for the final time and Dave Stahl came back on. The story I got from Dave was that Dave was building a house in his native Pennsylvania and when he had enough bread scrapped together, he was going to leave Buddy's band and start his own. Now, he admits, it wasn't the most "mature" thing to do and that was to antagonize Buddy on the bandstand which he did by holding over the final note of each song way past the cut off mark. This led to Buddy finally blowing-up on Dave and Doug Clark was moved over to the lead chair.

[@NelsonMontana1234]

I get why Buddy was so demanding and he wasn't wrong in being so. But he also was a major prick.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

very arrogant , must have attracted Johnny Carson, they were both bad drunks too

[@marvinarthur7139]

same thing was said of james brown

[@Lewy3958]

Obviously you knew him so well , keep your views to yourself joker

[@frankiegray4569]

I once saw him on a tv show and he seemed ok....but i could sense he was the type to fly off the handle at any moment...i guess u might say i have a-hole radar lol

[@elviswilliams9990]

Just be thankful that you were not his wife and kids who had to live around his erratic mood swings

[@TheGreatGig73]

I used to be a Buddy Rich fan. Perfection means nothing if you aren't perfect.

[@dylannnnnnnnn]

So true.

[@jamescashin288]

You can take Buddy outa' Brooklyn, but you ain't never taking Brooklyn outa' Buddy!

[@scottlucas9551]

I sometimes think BR was hypoglycemic or something. Having sugar crashes and freaking out. Anyway, Elvin Jones blows him away.

[@danlc95]

😂 Elaine is great, but that's apples and oranges.

[@CruceEntertainment]

Buddy was crazy

[@rondorazio4921]

I noticed that Buddy Rich hired a lot of kids right out of high school. In fact, a kid I went to high school with (Chuck Findley) graduated in 1965 and was in Rich's band a couple of years later. Maybe Rich knew that more mature players wouldn't put up with his bullshit.

[@michaelbill123]

I can’t comment because I never met the man in person or worked with him, mainly because I was just a little squirt at the time. However, anybody know what caused this altercation?

[@petepoulos]

Most of the time it was something that happened when players got sloppy, showed up late or were under the influence and not playing how they should. A lot of people here commenting have probably not been band leaders. It's not too fun having to deal with everything.

[@davidhemann5885]

First of all Buddy Rich was “The greatest drummer whoever drew breath”according to Mel Torme. That being said, in the end there are three things that last, “faith, hope and love and the greatest of these is love.“ The funniest thing I’ve ever seen was when he was on Johnny Carson and Johnny Carson asked him who we would like to come back as and he said, “Bruce Lee“ then Johnny asked him why and he said, “because that’s who I would like to come back as!“ Just funny funny funny how he put it! I’m sure he could be a very tender hearted guy to but wow he could also nail the guys with a drumstick thrown at them if they missed a note!

[@rayjr62]

the only thing that surprised me is that someone didn't ever knock Buddy on his fucking ass. He could get away with this shit when he was talking to musicians young enough to be his kid, but he'd never talk this way to any of his contemporaries. You think he'd get away with this shit talking this way to Conde Condoli, Lee Konitz or Art Pepper? Or even another drummer like Stan Levey, or Shelly Manne? Or Miles Davis? No fucking way.

[@SAHBfan]

@@rayjr62 He was a judo instructor in the army, I believe - and later boasted about being a black belt in karate. It doesn't impress me much that people boast about their fighting skills and them throw their weight around, but that is what he did...

[@ididyermom3273]

Before there was Gordon Ramsay, there was Buddy Rich.

[@damianbroderick3913]

Ok I really have to 'take umbridge' with this - you're SERIOUSLY comparing the greatest stickman ever with that sad a** of a chef?? "You gotta be kidding me!!"

[@spumemonk11]

@@damianbroderick3913 . I think he's referring to the fact that they are both complete failures as human beings.

[@johncooksey79]

Gordon Ramsays personality is more of an act for his show, If you saw him talk in real life, he is nothing like that character, but he knows that character help sell the show and his brand.

[@damianbroderick3913]

@@spumemonk11 Shows what you know mr ***** white- try reading a BOOK occasionally as opposed to all the 'ooh everyone is right on you tube/FB crap' - the man had a hell of a tough childhood- fought like a demon to earn for his family as a CHILD whilst learning the drums by OBSERVING others playing- no fancy 'apps/study books/CDs in the 1920s/1930s- no siree, just out on the road DOING IT. These days over privileged self-entitled idiots who barely qualify for university entry, stand around crying and whinging because their precious 'freshers fortnight' has been affected, whilst other people lie dying of COVID in hospital and care homes. Buddy Rich loved his daughter deeply, otherwise why would she be promoting jazz drumming in his name these days hmm?? Just because he kicked a few behinds of people who he was PAYING MONEY- they thought they slack off for a few days and get no comeback: other careers/jobs you get an earful- so why the hell should they be any different? He also gave out drumsticks to hard up young drummer's who couldn't afford new ones. He always spoke highly of his bands in public- and told them THE TRUTH to their faces behind closed doors- not like all the 'reality' telly no lifes now who make heinous amounts of money by basically acting like ****heads and bigger idiots sponsoring/voting for them.( yay) He told S Africa to take a running one when they said his young black bass player would be unable to tour their country in his ensemble,. (Feel a bit stupid?😕 YEH, YOU SHOULD!😐)

[@nealsausen4651]

@@johncooksey79 ; I met Gordon once very nice guy no attitude no ego very friendly nice bloke!

[@Mr.S369]

Not sure who invented the term 'Jazz Police', but I'm pretty sure who the "Jazz Nazi' was.

[@PiotrBarcz]

Man, you got Buddy mad and it was the end of the world

[@awreckingball]

I did a cruise ship gig for a while, the show band behaved just like this.

[@georgekilroy2670]

Yes, it was Stahl-I was there. Buddy was red hot and stopped the show to wrangle with him. Stahl left for the night but was back the next day. Fight over I guess. Someone else said he left for greener pastures...

[@jimvild8357]

I knew a bass player who claims he pinned Buddy to the wall one night.Bassist was.a former minor league baseball player who also boxed.Don't know what to believe but Buddy might have been messing with somebody a lot bigger & whole lot more temperamental.

[@theringoone]

@@jimvild8357 I was at Disney Land in 1982 or 83 at the time, when I saw Buddy fire a young horn player right in the middle of the show. Never seeing anything like that and being a drummer myself, it was shocking thing to wittness. Im not a DR. but I think Buddy was in dire need of prozack at that time when it was first appearing on the market.

[@HankFinkle11]

@@theringoone he was clearly bi-polar. Nicest guy one moment. Deeply disturbed the next. Still a genius though.

[@arame29]

What did Dave do to get Buddys wrath? I didnt hear the tune before the conflict

[@johntapscott4528]

Ironic in a way because Stahl had been in and out of the band a few times. He was the lead trumpet in Buddy’s great 76-77 Killer Force Band. Some consider Stahl one of, if not the best lead trumpet player Buddy ever had. I guess that the next day Buddy decided he needed a lead trumpet player after all. So Stahl was back. This was typical Buddy behavior.Hire, fire, hire again. I think it happened with Steve Marcus, too. I read that Buddy paid Marcus and Stahl very well.

[@fifty9forty3]

When you get to the top of your field, you probably want to protect what got you there. If a player is out of line with what "got you there", you would probably come down hard on that individual. Benny Goodman and Gene Krupa had blowouts as well, and one was during a performance, so I've read. The big bands had turnover in their players, disagreements with the bandleader was probably one reason.

[@geisterfer]

Imagine Ritchie Blackmore and Buddy Rich in the same band!

[@jaspermcminnis5538]

Imagine Malmsteem in there too.

[@HankFinkle11]

Or James Brown.

[@mobrules29]

geisterfer - love that reference.

[@burtonrivera5253]

I was...not the first time... Genius and perfectionism... Is hard on the ears and makes You a controlling **** to the world

[@geisterfer]

Since we're having fun with this, let's ad Frank Zappa to the band!

[@perrysar5954]

Look if you're hired to do gig with Rich,you better know how to read charts FAST!!!...,I know that feeling,now I'm definitely not a pro but when I go to jam night's and some guy comes onstage who dosnt know the difference between a tuba and a harmonica,it drives me crazy!

[@SAHBfan]

Although he couldn't read himself...

[@sassulusmagnus]

He seems to have been an incredibly insecure person in spite of his amazing talent.

[@Silvertone58]

What does insecure have to do with the fact that he had a temper and was a perfectionist?

[@chikakumask4693]

I think you’re the insecure one

[@Himlee335]

In defense to great horn players it’s much easier to make a noticeable mistake, then pounding out a drum solo.. Just saying….

[@ericmalone3213]

What are you talking about, "pounding out a drum solo"? Let me see you play a 32nd note roll with your left hand, pal. Just saying...

[@douglasknoll3500]

Ray Belated how about when your boyfriend pounds out a bum solo on you?

[@carpballet]

Just like sleepy Joe layin’ into old corn pop. Lol

[@douglasknoll3500]

Slo-Gin Joe Wants'ta bite me sliding hidin' Biden corrupt Irish JoeBlow

[@jamescaliendo1030]

Lmaoooo love it!!! Lot of you are upset at this.. grow a pair. Life is upsetting, at least this is funny hearing how angry he got lol

[@spactick]

His perfectionism and personality made him into who he was, a great musician

[@ppj0241]

No, it just made him a asshole.

[@Alsatiagent]

@@ppj0241 Amazing how people romanticize a trait of anti-social personality just because he was a good drummer.

[@SAHBfan]

@@Alsatiagent- What I find odd is that they do the opposite with people like Ginger Baker. He was also a - hole, or could be, and so many on KZbin disrespect his playing because he wasn’t always a nice guy. Meanwhile, John Bonham gets a free pass, even though he could be a violent drunkard who even beat up a woman reporter, yet he is deified and can do no wrong. Odd. Very odd.

[@richardcole9308]

Thank God, some of these guys dident take buddy out side I think buddy would have got his ass warmed !! He had the money and the power, that dident want to loose there jobs ! # great drummer, shit human !!!

[@loumcconnell503]

Richard Cole Buddy had a black belt in karate !

[@jimwilliams4088]

Yes he did!

[@roman14032]

drummers punch very,very, well, they've got the timing and the leverage down like NOBODY, not even pro boxers punch like drummers

[@ikshields]

Think again, Mojambo. Buddy was a Marine Corps black belt martial arts instructor during the war. And actually, he was a great human. He just absolutely didn’t tolerate mediocrity. That is not a fault, it’s just a bitch to satisfy.

[@jimwilliams4088]

@Drummer J.L.H. Yes I know, thanks

[@doctrinos1897]

In comments someone said Buddy fired musicians and hired them back, off on off on....I think Buddy knew he couldn't have better musicians because they were the best. So his outbursts were only reminders: If you are the best, play like best!

[@davidebrownstl]

Albert King did the same thing

[@benvye4279]

@I'm On Your Roof Nelson Riddle's orchestra backed all those guys.

[@slicaltimistic1]

Question. Do Buddy Rich played perfect himself?

[@PatoFrango]

yes

[@ikshields]

In a word? Yes.

[@sdhynes]

slicaltimistical1 With all the video on youtube, I have seen a few Buddy Rich mistakes, he even acknowledges while he is playing. Don’t remember where, but they are out there.

[@slicaltimistic1]

@@sdhynes😁😁 That's the answer I was looking for.

[@roytrevisan3491]

Slicaltimistical1 even if Buddy did not play perfectly himself even if he was 50% of his best he was significantly better than your grammar

[@dizzled333]

I would have gave him some beats of my own! No class legend or not!!

[@TheBreaksFB]

He would drum rolled your head... You'd of done nuttin'!

[@shawngregory1429]

Miles Davis glaring at you for a screw-up is just as bad as Buddy screaming .

[@loucontino4804]

That's not an abuse of authority, that's OWNERSHIP! This isn't a group like Metallica or Rush...this is THE REAL DEAL OF THE MUSIC BUSINESS. People pay to hear Buddy Rich. The band members are insignificant. He can get 50 guys in a week to replace these guys. The Universities are full of young guys that can read fly shit and play his music. He's got a book. And when you have a book, you own it. That means when the bass player gets pregnant and leaves, you put the next person right in and they READ THAT BOOK DOWN. YOU OWN IT. If the people you have are slacking, what do you expect, coddling like parents do to kids? This is the real world and Buddy cleaned up a mess. End of story.

[@leafamania1]

Are you implying Metallica and Rush are/were not the real deal in their respective piece of the music business ?

[@dyolf1000]

I wonder who wrote Buddy’s Book. It sure wasn’t him.

[@sonortubelug3853]

Whatever, you’d last 5 minutes, mate

[@ericdreizen1463]

Yeah, the schools are all producing great orchestral musicians all the time. Very few become prominent.

[@thejustmeclassichits2163]

A persson who has to read music to feel or remember his notes is just merely a human jukebox. You take away thier music and Their just a doorstop... A real musician doesn't need to rid shit...ever heard of The Beatles?... Nuff said

[@buddyrichable1]

Buddy was a complicated guy, and took a lot of criticism, but here’s an interview with Don Menza with his take on Buddy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGqYfYGNedN5hqs

[@rackem6991]

Oh, gonna be wise guy eh!!!! Meh Seh

[@joshuaa3075]

Don’t work for or with people like that. If they tell you they will kill you then call the sheriff. File charges.

[@pokeman123451]

these are my favorite people to work with. if you fuck up, you're a fuck up. want to get back at them? play better than they do. easy.

[@audiophile55]

@Sid Ant Really? I can say the same about you. Or worse. What would Buddy have done if the guy walked off stage? For that matter, since you think that what he did(which is totally unprofessional) is acceptable just proves you aren't worth performing with. So Buddy was a perfectionist. Not everyone else is. All they can do is try their best. What Buddy did was totally unprofessional. Period. Buddy is one of my main influences, but only while he sits behind his drum set and doesn't talk.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Lol. Good luck on that one. It's a waste of time.

[@dinodeluca6210]

Does anyone know who the horn player is getting lambasted?

[@georgekilroy2670]

Dave Stahl

[@grahamecope5970]

Big smooth Eddie.

[@rhythmfield]

George Kilroy was it seriously Dave Stahl?

[@jimvild8357]

& he was the band manager. What did he do to piss off the master?

[@alamooji3716]

I like how every one has a different reply

[@ericdreizen1463]

U never messed w/ him. But if u messed w/ him while he was playing, u're a dead man walking! Hard to believe that a musician of that caliber would do that to him. Such an insult!

[@dylannnnnnnnn]

He was a prick end of story

[@andrewtannenbaum1]

Buddy Rich is a Jew from Brooklyn, like me. Some of us found Christ. There is a difference.

[@nealsausen4651]

I’m sorry to hear that I’m sorry to hear that you jumped ship and went over to the Darkside! Just saying hope someday You’ll jump back over the fence to where you belong!

[@WayBackNowLetsGo]

Things go Buddy with Coke.

[@stevenhandzel5929]

I guess that guy … was not his kinda people.

[@thomasjordan5578]

Buddy and Billy disparage other performers music. They are for sure wonderful talents but I can’t see how they have any real class.

[@slotrane8853]

What a miserable jerk

[@1withtheflow102]

Maybe extremely talented but was a genuine jerk. He was also dishonorably discharged from the USMC. I definitely question his integrity.

[@BeefCake45]

1 WithTheFlow so? Who would ever think musicians are saints? All of these cats are bad dudes.

[@ikshields]

His integrity? You’re questioning 100%? What’s your standard of “integrity”? Mediocrity?

[@bennylevine387]

When evaluating jazz greats, one should always ask "How good of a soldier was he?"

[@JonBecker81]

No he wasn’t. He was discharged for medical reasons.

[@Bob-nu3xe]

don't question his drumming and that's why we're all here ! lol

[@pattitaniguchi]

Uh

[@rayszymarek2920]

Just Remember this Buddy Rich was a proud U S Marine. and do remember Marines are tough and do not take any b s. Buddy ran his band to the Max. He demanded perfection. and Buddy was just as hard on himself. There were nights that he knew he wanted more perfection. Sure he was a task masker. He had a tremendous wonderful exciting big band. He wanted that Band to Be Tight. If some one in that band was not playing up to standards he would let them know it. Nothing wrong with that. The U S Marines are the proud proud Marines. Buddy was one of them. Greatest Drummer ever and a Marine to boot.

[@sampotter873]

i didn’t know he was a marine

[@andreww9726]

being a former US Marine is no excuse for that kind of attitude on stage (or even off stage like the bus tapes) There are plenty of ways to tell someone "stop being bad at your instrument" without yelling at them tbh

[@sampotter873]

Andrew 77 oh yeah you’re absolutely right

[@caseygill8336]

Oswald who shot Kennedy was al so a marine.

[@sticktrik]

Andrew 77 He may have been recruited in a marine division but, until you see action where people are killed...you’re really not a marine!!!!! nice try though!!!!! very disrespectful to the marines who have fought & died!!!!!!

[@DerGlaetze]

Bipolar?

[@jazzyman4]

I was in Ronnie Scott’s club in London and he announced the next number as The West Side story trilogy The trombone player fluffed the melody in the first couple of bars Buddy Rich called a halt and said “we will try again and hopefully get it right” The nerves the trombonist must of had at that moment must have been unbearable - unless that is he had it happened before Buddy was good in his era but not the best imho

[@jasonogle3697]

Gene Krupa was better.

[@loup9356]

Buddy was a punk, that's why Sinatra got rid of him

[@ikshields]

Um, no. He never worked for Sinatra, so Sinatra could not “get rid” of him. They both worked for Tommy Dorsey, and Buddy was the highest paid sideman in show business at that point, preceding Sinatra in the band. Further, they both roomed together on tour, fought in the hotel hallways like brothers, and Sinatra considered Buddy the absolute, unquestioned king of the drums. Definitely not a “punk”. Buddy was NO ONE’S “punk”. He was an asshole, and the unquestioned King. Call him by his proper title. 😎👑🐗

[@mobrules29]

Buddy and Frank were great friends and performed together late in their careers - check out Concert for the Americas on KZbin. Frank loved Buddy, and financed Buddy's big band comeback in the 60s. He was a neighbor and even brought over his homemade spaghetti and sauce to share.

[@sticktrik]

Ian Shields Oh yes he did!!! Sinatra gave Rich $10,000 to start his big band!! Now!,..You figure out why Rich was indebted to him!!!

[@HankFinkle11]

@@sticktrik they were friends.

[@nealsausen4651]

what the fuck are you talking about Sinatra got rid of Him ?! they were best friends into their senior years what do you mean Sinatra got rid of them you Mean Sinatra put a hit out on buddy?!🤣😂🤪 Some really strange comments in this Video!

[@wayneandrus240]

He was a crude, classless piece of crap but a great drummer.

[@myroseaccount]

Maybe this was the guy who kept phoning Buddy's ex.wife to ask if it was true that Buddy had died. to which his wife said "Yes Buddy has died he is dead". The guy kept calling and calling and calling. He wanted to hear that "Buddy is dead" again and again. It cheered him up.

[@louismarcianti4659]

Maybe you should’ve had a little more respect for the people that played with them since most of them were just as good as he was I don’t like drummers that could be real you know watch I would love to seeing him say something to Frank Sinatra

[@speedoflite1]

Drumming has greatly evolved since heyday of one dimensional Big Band Jazz era, so well associated w/ BR. Tho his left hand speed, technique, virtuosity set him way above the rest.

[@paradiddlemcflam7167]

One dimensional. Yeah sure. Idiot.

[@don.cotton2678]

Dumb comment.

[@loucontino4804]

The guy played with Artie Shaw, Tommy Dorsey, Harry James and did engagements with Basie, Goodman and Sinatra. If those guys were one dimensional, you don’t know what the hell you're talking about.

[@ikshields]

“One-dimensional”, eh?

[@speedoflite1]

Read it and weep: Morris Jennings (the modern jazz/rock/funk teacher) discusses BR (the student); and if "Speak No Evil" released 1976 doesn't school you, nothin' will.

[@hotchkissish]

Playing real hot drums in hell. Someone hollering at him & worse. De ja vu.

[@Capcoor]

How would YOU know?

[@nealsausen4651]

Don’t be a dick David!

[@plasticweapon]

so you think somebody deserves to go to hell for hollering at people?

[@lindaandmerle]

I always pictured Buddy Rich up to his nose in a Septic Tank filled with jazz crap, Slowly going under until he was out of sight.. He would have loved that. What a single minded Dufus.

[@alamooji3716]

What does any of that mean? Word it better if you want to reply

[@ikshields]

Explain in detail what “Jazz crap” is, in 3...2...1...GO.

[@ronnieschur5139]

I agree! hated any music other than jazz! Very very close minded! Louie Bellson said it best! No one is the greatest!

[@mobrules29]

@@ronnieschur5139 Louie Bellson said that because he wasn't the greatest. There's always a greatest and Buddy Rich was it for drummers. Buddy liked various types of music (except country), but he loved jazz the best; obviously, it was his career choice. But his albums covered songs from the Beatles and The Doors, to Gino Vanelli, the Isley Brothers and the Pointer Sisters!

[@HankFinkle11]

@@mobrules29 and Rich played with several orchestras.

[@adamklein9320]

Totally overrated drummer.

[@arfshesaid4325]

please tell me more

[@plasticweapon]

he was one of the greatest of all time and everybody knows it, stop with the sour grapes.