Matrox Parhelia....The Final Graphics Card.

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@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
0:35 - I say decade....Turns out we're all old now and I actually mean Century, so the Year 2000. Anyways enjoy!
@bigmike9947
@bigmike9947 4 жыл бұрын
You could also say Millenium
@JT-ko2ib
@JT-ko2ib 4 жыл бұрын
Noticed that one, lol.
@Rod_Nyssen
@Rod_Nyssen 4 жыл бұрын
@Budget Build Officail No joke, you can buy a "new" Martox cards even today! :D Look here: www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Matrox.html
@sams_gaming_lounge
@sams_gaming_lounge 4 жыл бұрын
Could of put "last two decades" Instead now.
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't old. I started gaming with Pong as a kid. That was the only video game. Well that and the light gun thing. I am old.
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense that a professional PC hardware company would have issues entering the consumer market. Pro grade hardware is usually build quality/reliability/build quality focused, while *consumer* grade is usually (disposable) bang for the buck focused.(*spell corrected)
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 4 жыл бұрын
plus as he said, Radeon 9000s series. Even Nvidia would be on the backfoot for the next two years.
@catnium
@catnium 4 жыл бұрын
consider grade?
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 4 жыл бұрын
That sums it up well: It's worth noting that companies who *are* known for focusing on build quality (Sapphire and PowerColor come to mind because I'm an ATI/AMD guy) are very often lauded on this fact in particular. Can confirm the quality of my new Nitro+'s display ports... I'm a klutz...
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 4 жыл бұрын
@@catnium Sorry, proof reading is not my forte. Fixed.
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 4 жыл бұрын
They weren't entering the consumer market, they were getting kicked out of it.
@CrazyBlueTv
@CrazyBlueTv 4 жыл бұрын
The GPU market could be intresting today if they were still around. sad
@MirekFe
@MirekFe 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Hansen All displays will speak in French though. Lol.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Hansen interesting point there. if I recall, their drivers don't interefere with an AMD/Nvidia card, that was a combination done by some EVE multi-boxers back in the day (since EVE isn't demanding per se, especially in DX9 mode with low settings....)
@Valdarious
@Valdarious 4 жыл бұрын
@TheThunderGuy S I was about say this as well. I was a huge 3Dfx fan, I think I had all the different version cards made. Back in 99-00 I remember using a Matrox G200 together with two Voodoo2's was like the ultimate setup.
@calvitocalvon1711
@calvitocalvon1711 4 жыл бұрын
they are around but their stuff is made by nvidia lol
@ChikyuuKun
@ChikyuuKun 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile..... *Intel has joined the server.*
@DarkBlood666
@DarkBlood666 4 жыл бұрын
I had this video card when it released. I made heatsinks for it, overclocked it, and ran quake 3 on triple CRT monitors back then... thanks to parhelia, I have always been a surround screen gamer. I can never go back to 1 screen. Matrox Parhelia was a legend.
@RedstoneMiner18
@RedstoneMiner18 2 жыл бұрын
*respect*
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Almost forgot quake and unreal tournament. Felt like I was living in the future.
@FalseOracle617
@FalseOracle617 8 ай бұрын
this is a rad comment
@jirikajzar3247
@jirikajzar3247 Ай бұрын
How did those heatsinks look? And just for vram or the core too?
@LadBooboo
@LadBooboo 4 жыл бұрын
The late 90s early 00s were a wild time for pc hardware, I kinda miss those turbine looking cpu coolers thermaltake used to make
@aguy255
@aguy255 4 жыл бұрын
it still is in a way
@poiu477
@poiu477 4 жыл бұрын
or the circular zantechs with the composite heatpipes
@marcdraco2189
@marcdraco2189 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when Voodoo 3D hit and you still needed a dedicated 2D card to go beside it. Now those were the days, when men were men, women were women and computers where just really large pocket calculators.
@justiny.1773
@justiny.1773 4 жыл бұрын
LadBooboo cooler master jet 7 I have for my Pentium cooler cooler ever !
@comicsansgreenkirby
@comicsansgreenkirby 4 жыл бұрын
I could’ve gotten a cup holder... I really could’ve
@KingKong-mp6gj
@KingKong-mp6gj 4 жыл бұрын
Some years ago i chatted with a matrix representative at the Expo in Hannover Germany where they had a small booth. We had a Matrox Mystique back in the nineties in my brothers first pc which powered all the fun we had back then so i was delighted to see them there. Turns out they are still going strong albeit not in the gaming market of course but in a professional niche which is ultra reliable multi-monitor 2D graphics. They have 700 employees according to wikipedia as of last year so they seem to do pretty good.
@herbasaurus5076
@herbasaurus5076 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox was an interesting company to say the least
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 4 жыл бұрын
Still remember playing with a Matrox Tesselator system - SVGA in 1983.
@sparkyenergia
@sparkyenergia 4 жыл бұрын
In fact Matrox might be a more interesting company right now. Matrox was co-founded. A few months ago one of them packed up and sold his side of the company to the other guy. Things could get interesting if the one left with the company has interesting ambitions.
@danwhitear2440
@danwhitear2440 4 жыл бұрын
They make the best in female hygiene products
@SeñorDossierOficial
@SeñorDossierOficial 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Hansen Now they are using Amd video chips with some exotic display outs and adapters
@silentbloodyslayer98
@silentbloodyslayer98 4 жыл бұрын
@@allangibson8494 you mean 1993, there was no svga nor vga during that time
@rdcrezz
@rdcrezz 4 жыл бұрын
You say its the only card they marketed as a gaming card, but what about the Mystique? I had one of them back in the day and that was marketed as a gaming card.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I do cover this slightly in my other Matrox video. I should really do a spin off video on the card.
@PJBonoVox
@PJBonoVox 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but it came with pack in games. I had one.
@kyles8524
@kyles8524 4 жыл бұрын
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! yeah the g400 and g450, they are actually better than a voodoo 3 3000. I have several cards I got in pallets from a salvage company and have tested both.The only thing I dont like about the g450 is even though it has 32mb of ram its split up into 2 monitor outputs so if you use 1 vga port its only 16 megs
@joseluki
@joseluki 4 жыл бұрын
Lol it could have been marketet as a gaming card, but very few games had support for it, same for the matrox M3D (the one I had).
@jojojo8645
@jojojo8645 4 жыл бұрын
@@PJBonoVox Ditto. Destruction Derby was actually the shit.
@Z0ku
@Z0ku 4 жыл бұрын
Nice recap of an highly anticipated card of the early 2000's! Two things, one of the main reasons for the hype that Parhelia-512 would be great for gaming was the massive bandwith it had, 17.6GB/s (Retail) which was 7.2GB/s faster than Ti4600! That was really unheard at the time! Secondly Parhelia suffered greatly with the decision Matrox made of not including any occlusion culling tech. So the card just rendered everything in scene, not able to check if an abject would be visible to the gamer. That really saturated the bandwith a lot with unnecessary data.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 4 жыл бұрын
Not changing anything else, JUST adding that would have given the card a huge boost.
@SeñorDossierOficial
@SeñorDossierOficial 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, they just included a quad memory channel and Fast Z clear.
@RMDTech
@RMDTech 4 жыл бұрын
Surprising to see the features this card was packing back in its day. Really loved watching this blast from the past. RIP Matrox
@Churchgrimm
@Churchgrimm 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, they're still around, they just have a very specific niche in the enterprise market, where they actually do pretty well for themselves. They focus entirely on gpus for multi-monitor setups and high resolution multi-panel displays. Their current cards are very interesting in context since they have very high quality 2D acceleration, which is a tertiary focus on mainstream gpus. Provided the drivers were there to make it happen (and they aren't,) I would love to see how a C680 performs versus, say, a 1050 ti in Age of Empires 2: DE, which is fundamentally still a 2D game.
@Churchgrimm
@Churchgrimm 4 жыл бұрын
@iewind I try
@dollardealtech768
@dollardealtech768 4 жыл бұрын
Still usable. Not sure why anyone would want to use it, but it works.
@TheotanyaSama
@TheotanyaSama 4 жыл бұрын
Well, for text editing, It can deal with it
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, even the FX5200 works.
@speeedskater
@speeedskater 4 жыл бұрын
still have this card in a editing rig, 3 monitors , works great,
@mackenziebullied4900
@mackenziebullied4900 4 жыл бұрын
@@VGamingJunkieVT technically the OG ati wonder still works
@Trusteft
@Trusteft 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox made gaming cards before the 2000s. Matrox Mystique series in the mid 90s. I had one then.
@retrogeek4372
@retrogeek4372 4 жыл бұрын
I still have one. For 2D with a Voodoo...
@LastOneLeft99
@LastOneLeft99 4 жыл бұрын
The "Mystake" was my first 3D card when I had no idea what I was doing. Trash. Couldn't even run GLQUake.
@robgaros2985
@robgaros2985 4 жыл бұрын
I remember them being pretty popular also. Never had one of the cards, but I remember all the ads and high star retings for them in magazines.
@michalzustak8846
@michalzustak8846 4 жыл бұрын
@@LastOneLeft99 The "Mystake" actually wasn't so bad at all when you realize it was competing against the S3 Virge and ATI Rage, not Voodoo. IIRC, Voodoo came later. The Mystique was only of the infamous "Virge, Rage, Mystique" trinity to actually run Direct 3D games at playable framerates. It sacrificed any texture filtering or true transparency for it, but at least you could actually PLAY games like Turok or Shadow of the Empire on it. Those games btw were among the first to REQUIRE a 3D card so the Mystique at least made them playable if ugly as hell. "Trash. Couldn't even run GLQUake." - You realize no card but the Voodoo and some professional graphics cards of the era could run it right? OK, the Rendition Verite ran Quake accelerated, playably, but using its own API - NOT Glquake.
@LastOneLeft99
@LastOneLeft99 4 жыл бұрын
@@michalzustak8846 Yes I stand by my statement of it being trash. I saved money and got a Voodoo 1 so I could finally play GLQuake
@BigNerdLandon
@BigNerdLandon 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy learning about more older or dare I say legacy GPU's. It's so interesting how far we came from cards like these.
@CommanderTato
@CommanderTato 4 жыл бұрын
lol bro your frog avatar is so damn cool
@ahmadsb4358
@ahmadsb4358 4 жыл бұрын
And nowadays we have apu that can work as good as a vga technology is continuely developing maybe in near futire we wont need vga anymore
@BigNerdLandon
@BigNerdLandon 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommanderTato it's supposed to look like me. It was pepe working on a raspberry pi and inhaling the soldering fumes
@CommanderTato
@CommanderTato 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigNerdLandon Hum, did it worth the sacrifice?
@BigNerdLandon
@BigNerdLandon 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommanderTato absolutely
@taragwendolyn
@taragwendolyn 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox actually got bought out by ATi shortly after the Parhelia came out. They're around in name, mostly, though their offices outside of Montreal are still there (or were last time I drove past the area). They focus mostly on large digital signage right now -- I'd be lying if I didn't say some part of me wants to buy the card with 16 DisplayPort outputs, and a whole bunch of DP 4x splitters, to see how a modern Windows or Linux OS would choke on a 48-screen display
@Jonathan-fs7es
@Jonathan-fs7es 4 жыл бұрын
9800 Pro owner here, when that card hit... it was amazing!!! Lasted far too long :) I replaced eventually with a 4870 IceQ or something.
@evilqtip7098
@evilqtip7098 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the features were amaizing .. The bump mapping and details And colors made it spectacular over Nvidia soft blurry graphics.
@Bristecom
@Bristecom 4 жыл бұрын
I remember going from my 1998 Matrox Mystique G200 to my new nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 and noticing the analog image quality was actually WORSE than my 5 year old Matrox! That's when I gained a lot more respect for Matrox. I later bought a used Parhelia for cheap but eventually settled on an ATI Radeon X800 Pro which had good image quality and more powerful 3D. But without a doubt, Matrox had the best image quality for analog cards which is what I valued much more over higher frame rates in 3D games.
@WXSTANG
@WXSTANG 4 жыл бұрын
Still have a Matrox G450... Image quality is still da bomb...
@sparkyenergia
@sparkyenergia 4 жыл бұрын
The radeon 9700 might have done a significant amount of damage to matrox but really it was the DVI connector that killed Matrox. If you are old enough to connect your monitors up with VGA or BNC cables then you would remember how blurry ATi's picture was and how washed out Nvidias picture was compared to Matrox's amazing picture quality. But then came the digital DVI connector it levelled the playing field. Leaving Matrox's performance (FPS) as a supreme chink in its armour.
@Mikaa7150
@Mikaa7150 4 жыл бұрын
my uncle was one of the people who worked on this card back in the day :)
@Mikaa7150
@Mikaa7150 4 жыл бұрын
@mdx maybe, i know he works at nvidia now helping make RTX cards so maybe it was more the other people lol
@Bristecom
@Bristecom 4 жыл бұрын
Cool! Matrox had the best overall image quality, especially compared to other cards with analog connections. Outside of 3D performance, it was the best graphics card for the time.
@stonent
@stonent 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that today Matrox's bread and butter is the embedded G200 chip that's in almost every server. I have an old Cisco server from 2012 that has a G200 chip on it. We just bought some brand new Dell R740 servers at work a few months back, and they also have a G200 chip.
@Chaosxinc
@Chaosxinc 4 жыл бұрын
I was just reminiscing about Matrox, how they were the king at 2D cards back in the day, and remembering the last Matrox card I had, a G200 AGP with 8MB. Those were some interesting times. From what I could tell when I went to see if they were still around a few weeks ago, it looked like they were, sort of, but more a ghost town. I think they dabbled in making cards and external devices to split displays, but even the most recent one was maybe 10 years or so if I recall. Great timing on this video for myself.
@HystericalHuntress
@HystericalHuntress 4 жыл бұрын
The feature-list of this card is almost like hearing of a hardware raytracing capable graphics card releasing back in 2010. So ahead of its time in some ways, but woefully behind in the fields that mattered most. Still pretty cool.
@jhj22
@jhj22 4 жыл бұрын
11:53 Did I hear right that he says: "...Crysis of it's day DAY it was Farc Cry"...
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin audio bug. Should be resolved when the video is done processing.
@Sohzy
@Sohzy 4 жыл бұрын
@The New Baris Berat Balci whats a wnr?
@jhj22
@jhj22 4 жыл бұрын
@The New Baris Berat Balci Yeah... sadly.
@prla5400
@prla5400 4 жыл бұрын
@The New Baris Berat Balci the fuck. I found nothing about windows
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I hear "of its da-day" silly KZbin.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
The one killer title that sold a lot of Matrox cards was Flight Simulator 2004, because it offered very easy triple head support which was still very challenging for ATI and nVidia in that era.
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 4 жыл бұрын
You and LGR have to be my favorite channels for learning about old interesting tech, cheers.
@Naudia93
@Naudia93 4 жыл бұрын
The Matrox DigiSuite would be a great topic for discussion. We were the #1 Repair Group for systems and certified 3 motherboards specifically to handle the cards. Which were insanely expensive and required mindfulness of PCI Slot IRQ Assignments to ensure stability. ESPN was one of the first customers of these setups.
@d0ugk
@d0ugk 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be shocked if even win10 has at least basic support for it built in. Windows always tended to have built in drivers for matrox cards offering decent support, then you'd install the driver's from matrox for the extras. Unlike other graphics cards where u were stuck at something like 640x480 or 800x600 non accelerated 256 color standard vga till you loaded the drivers
@paul1978g
@paul1978g 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox I seem to recall made a pretty well regarded gaming card called the "Millenium". The strength of this gaming card was that unlike the Voodoo 2 or similar, Matrox were one of the first (with the card called the "All-In-One-Wonder) to combine a 2D and a 3D card on the same PCB. This may sound like an obvious thing to do now, but back in those days (I'm talking 90's) 2D and 3D cards were sold separately and used an external passthrough cable to conjoin the two cards before a final cable sent the image generated by BOTH cards to the CRT monitor. All good, or so it sounds. The down side was the cost. Most people were used to replacing just the 3D card, and had the same 2D card for years (I used an S3 Savage for quite a while, firstly with a single Voodoo 2, and latterly with a PAIR of Voodoo 2 in SLI) and the eyewatering cost of the Millenium and then the "All-In-One-Wonder" which came before it meant most people couldn't afford it.
@haziqsembilanlima
@haziqsembilanlima 4 жыл бұрын
Man that Supersampling is really awesome. Never seen such negligible performance hit with Supersampling on nvidia/amd/ati cards
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see AGP, I click.
@janquieldapper
@janquieldapper 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the work, around 2001, we use Compaq's with Matrox to work with CAD and some of 3D in gorgeous 20" monitors, good to remember this time!
@TommyCrosby
@TommyCrosby 4 жыл бұрын
I was sad when the Canadian ATi was acquired by AMD in 2006, then I searched for any PC hardware makers were still owned by Canadians and saw Matrox and started to cry...
@fadingbeleifs
@fadingbeleifs 3 жыл бұрын
Eurocom is another little known PC manufacturer... I bought their Sky X4C... It's been a damn good one now for almost 2 years... Rock solid and reliable...
@AsianFlew
@AsianFlew 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a brand I hadn't thought about in decades! I remember Matrox as a solid graphics card for work environments, not so much for gaming unless you pair it with something like a Voodoo card. Nice to hear they are still around.
@lettmons
@lettmons 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox Mystique 4MB PCI still sits on my shelf
@JanghanHong
@JanghanHong 4 жыл бұрын
There is a second revision of the card, there's a node shrink, and it gets about 20% clock boost, 256MB VRAM, and keyed for AGP 8X slot. There was no market for it and I believe they were made mostly to do RMA on the 128MB 4X card that came out. It's almost impossible to find. I only got it after staring at eBay for a year.
@1050franco
@1050franco 4 жыл бұрын
The blue-ground bug from Far Cry can be fixed by updating the game from 1.0 to 1.1 and so. It happened to me when i was playing with my old Geforce4 MX440.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried all versions from V1.0 to V1.4, still issues with the Matrox card
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted Matrox to release the G800, the first time I heard of that card was when the CEO of SNK said he was planning on releasing a new console in the early 2000s with a pentium 4 and dual Matrox G800s. 3:01 this video went from pretty good to GOD MODE when the Sega GT 2002 music started to play
@matchmakerchris7617
@matchmakerchris7617 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, that console sounds amazing. Too bad SNK exited the hardware market with their failed Hyper Neo Geo 64.
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 3 жыл бұрын
@@matchmakerchris7617 Been doing a lot of research and looking back it seems the CEO of SNK was bs when he talked about the new Neo Geo hardware with a Pentium 4 and two G800. This was done in early 2000 before the company went under so I think he was trying to get more investors to give him money. As for the Hyper Neo Geo 64 a few months ago finally somebody took the hardware apart and mapped all the chips so we know how the thing actually works. It is literally SNK trying to do a sega model 2 but with no money. pretty sad
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 4 ай бұрын
My G400 was the first dualhead card, and it worked fine for gaming at the time. 2x 19" Viewsonic Pro CRTs running at 1280X960 was amazing! :)
@thedungeondelver
@thedungeondelver 4 жыл бұрын
Be nice to see a similar view of the S3 cards of the same era.
@motalasuger
@motalasuger 4 жыл бұрын
Still keeping my old s3 virge gx/2 in the basement along with my voodoo 2 card for nostalgia.
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the S3 cards had MPEG video decoder card accessory boards (like for the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, a Virge 325 chip model) so that they could play MPEG videos full screen on low end hardware like early Pentium's and 486 class PC's. These were great if you had video CD movies (they were available). Just play the .DAT files on them in a MPEG media player to run the movie. I even found a Packard Bell PC (Platinum 65 model) that had a Brooktree video decoder chip along side the S3 Virge 325 graphics chip on the motherboard. It also had a Analog TV Tuner card in it as well.
@fsfs555
@fsfs555 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap mystery graphics card at a recycler because it was 64-bit PCI-X. Turns out it was a Parhelia, which I think is the only graphics card to ever be built for the interface, making it arguably the best option for a second high-speed video card back in the AGP era when otherwise you'd be stuck on basic 32-bit PCI for a second card.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech Жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Parhelia. Say what you want about the Mystique, it was my first 3D card and it was GOOD, it ran TombRaider in 640x480 at a solid 30fps, same with MotoRacer in 512x384, the bundled Mechwarrior 2 was the best version of the game ever made AND the 2D image quality and speed was typical Matrox legend. Back when Parhelia came out, I was working at PC World and had already taken pretty much one of every video card available out of the "returns" cage in the warehouse. I also knew some dodgy guys back then who were breaking entire office sized PC lots every week, and I got some amazing hardware from those guys for nothing except the time it took for me to help them out. I wasn't short on hardware. But I never came across a Rage Fury Maxx, or a Matrox Parhelia. Those are the two cards missing from my collection, and the two I most wanted back in the day. Prices now on eBay for both are insane, unfortunately.
@nexxusty
@nexxusty 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel brother. I have been watching your videos recently. Enjoying myself.
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone here remember the mythical Matrox G800 that was cancelled. All we heard was rumors and I even held on buying a new GPU to wait for the G800.......damn also 2:58 that is Sega GT 2002 menu music in the background. I have not thought about that game in more than 10 years!!!
@samuelchan699
@samuelchan699 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Matrox for multi-monitor support. At the time, no other maker had a card that did it as well. And the Matrox was the most stable video card I've used.... even more so than the Quadro I now use in my workstation.
@SebaKPaul
@SebaKPaul Жыл бұрын
I actually played WoW with this card, cleared Black Temple and Sunwell Plateau, and went up to Ulduar in the Lich King expanssion :))). This was actually one of best video cards for 2D graphic arts, photography, the reason I used it.
@raymondchan3587
@raymondchan3587 4 жыл бұрын
Really sad, the last one I used was 8x agp G400 max which featuring bump-mapping at the time. Matrox Millenlium was the 2D king, the most impressing was the picture quality that beat all others competitors.
@thepoliticalstartrek
@thepoliticalstartrek 3 жыл бұрын
It was a different time. The big thing Matrox had support for more than 3 monitors. Most cards at the time only offered 1 or 2 monitor support. They also was the low end market for drafting, and had cards that supported Coax based RGB composite. They still make kinda graphic chips.They make a large number of physical chips for Lenovo, Dell, and HP IMMs/IMIMd. Server intetfaces to control hardware.
@AW-wy3xv
@AW-wy3xv 4 жыл бұрын
i used to work for matrox, it was impossible for them to compete against the big, they just had a good start in the gaming community.
@Denshi
@Denshi 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video about the Nexus 5X. They go for around 60 to 30 dollars on E-bay, even cheaper sometimes. The Nexus 5X also has a huge XDA modding community, making a great video.
@RogerEvans-t6f
@RogerEvans-t6f 2 ай бұрын
Best card I ever had was a Matrox G450... Combined with an intel p400, it ran like a dream. Homeworld was sooooo smooth. And to be honest, the graphic card industry need another manufacture or two.
@Xaltar_
@Xaltar_ 4 жыл бұрын
Ran quite a few Matrox cards back in the day from the G200 all the way through to a PCIe Parhelia. We mostly sold them to clients in the graphics space, multiple monitor support, great resolution support and very high quality image production. Not great for gaming but I had access to the cards through work where I could usually pick up a previous generation we still had in stock for next to nothing. The "Gaming" cards we stocked never stayed in stock long enough to get a good deal on. The Parhelia was impressive next to the productivity focused G series we sold a lot of but sadly was eclipsed (badly) by much faster Radeon cards and even the Geforce 4 was faster. Most people gaming back then were focused on resolution and quality settings, this was the era where 30fps was considered the bar and you pushed for that at the highest resolution and quality settings you could get out of your card. The Parhelia just didn't have the prestige of Geforce or Radeon and as such, many gamers overlooked it, even if they picked up a lower end Nvidia or ATI GPU that was actually slower. By the time Parhelia was phased out you could pick them up pretty cheap, cheaper than slower, lower tier cards from the competition but only a few people really knew that and by this time there were already games that wouldn't run properly on the card thanks to poor DX9 support. If a game ran on openGL the parhelia did well but a lot of titles shifted the DX route thanks to the huge jump in features from DX8 to DX9. Microsoft really wanted to push XP as THE gaming OS and did all they could to make DX the API of choice for AAA developers. Great video, lots of nostalgia here.
@primus711
@primus711 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody did that we ran fast as possible 60fps was bar u basically keep most settings high turned aa off 30fps was doom era
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 4 жыл бұрын
Never owned or knew anyone with a Matrox card. I went through the years of 3dfx and then straight to ATI.
@richbob9155
@richbob9155 2 жыл бұрын
I love the kotor background music it fits great.
@nixter57
@nixter57 4 ай бұрын
Hey ..See if You can find an XGI Volare card . I've used three of them over the years .. and found them an outstanding value (when you can find them ??
@kevinsmythers7784
@kevinsmythers7784 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, the nostalgia of it all... not a gamer myself, but used a Parhelia with a Millenium G400 as a three monitor set up for Design work (CAD & Web mainly). Loved this card. Really crisp displays and (as you said) almost no OS support issues. Switched to nVidia when I could no longer get Matrox and still running 3x monitors but currently with a GT730 (4Gb running 2 mon) and GT610 (1Gb running 1) - contemplating an upgrade to a GTX 1660 6Gb and three new DP Iiyama monitors, even though I no longer work on design - kinda got used to the screen real estate of 5760 x 1080 :-) Great video - thanks for doing it.
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these for flight sim over 3 monitors. This was back in the day before ultrawide monitors were a thing and it was amazing. Was fantastic for productivity too. Was way ahead of its time for what I needed. Civ and age of empires were damn good too. I still don't have as good a productivity setup even now but that will change sometime next Yr when I get an ultrawide. Great video!
@frshunter
@frshunter 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Matrox Millennium and I loved that thing in its day. Loved the video!
@raymondchan3587
@raymondchan3587 4 жыл бұрын
That was the golden era of Matrox. 2D graphics king. S3 is scrap.
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
Pro 2d outpout, high refresh rate, early d3d and opengl, two vga/dvi out ... Was a pro league and my big love
@AverageArtificer
@AverageArtificer 4 жыл бұрын
Happy 3 years being on KZbin
@henning7923
@henning7923 4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss anything? Isn't Matrox still around and produces cards for multi monitor setups ?
@maximusoptimus2000
@maximusoptimus2000 4 жыл бұрын
I was really hyped for the Parhelina back then. At that point, I had the g 400max. Btw it's a shame that we don't see Maxtrox anymore
@airgreek
@airgreek 4 жыл бұрын
I had the G400max as well and it was the best for Duke Nukem 3D
@matthewjbauer1990
@matthewjbauer1990 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox is still making graphics adapters, if you want to call them that. They are more in the market of making multi-monitor PCI-e/PCI extenders for the onboard graphics chips. They make the "Graphics eXphansion" series and the "Mura IPX/MPX" and they still make the M9120/9128, M9140/9148 multi-monitor adapters for PCI/PCIe. That said, the Matrox PCIe display adapters max out at 1080p with 512mb RAM so only niche (I think OEM specifically) applications would use them as I can't fathom anyone both business or consumer who would get one on purpose.
@billyhatcher643
@billyhatcher643 2 жыл бұрын
nice video and i also love the ty the tasmanian tiger music u had in the vid great choice of music
@DD-jk3nf
@DD-jk3nf 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox didn't bite the bullet, they are still going today. They shifted their focus away from end users and into the medical/scientific field and more recently into capture and streaming for the professional world. They realised early on that dealing with end users is a pain in the ass lol. They make hardware similar to Extron but more on the computer controlled kind of thing.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend watching the video
@DD-jk3nf
@DD-jk3nf 4 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I did
@kathleendelcourt8136
@kathleendelcourt8136 4 жыл бұрын
I remember I was so hyped about this card. All the hardware magazines were feeding the hype train as Matrox was promising ground breaking new technologies. A huge 512 bits memory bus, super high quality and fast AA, displacement mapping, multi-texturing etc... And it all died when the first reviews came out. By the way, Super Sampling (not the fast FAA 16x) was not exclusive to the Parhelia. It was available on all Geforces and Radeons of the time, it was in fact the first type of AA to be used by graphics cards. But it was so taxing on resources that non one really bothered turning it on.
@thepoliticalstartrek
@thepoliticalstartrek 2 жыл бұрын
Matrox still makes graphics chips. The rub the Dell IDrac. and Lenovo IMM. Server firmware.
@pip07200
@pip07200 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this. I had a Matrox Millenium in my pre 2000 build; used it to run Falcon 4.0 :-D It was a pretty decent card, but was quickly overwhelmed by all the new 3D games coming out. When Parhelia was announced, it was too expensive for me, and so went for a Sapphire ATi 9500 upgrade.
@slob12
@slob12 3 жыл бұрын
Good job I really found this interesting..I once owned a matrix G200
@patrick-aka-patski
@patrick-aka-patski 4 жыл бұрын
Love when old hardware's getting its tribute in your videos. I wonder if there're Linux drivers for this card, too.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
There are indeed.
@CaryGordon3k
@CaryGordon3k 4 жыл бұрын
I remember having fond memories of the first PC I built that I had specced out with the Matrox Marvel G200-TV, as I wanted to do actual video editing at home and had some experience at work with the Matrox Digisuite MJPEG capture cards. I was impressed at the time, although as I recall there wasn't great support for video editing software beyond the bundled package. I did game a bit and wasn't unimpressed with what it could do, even though it likely wasn't the best available. In the end I think I ended up replacing the card with an ATI card and a Pinnacle capture card that I had gotten relatively cheaply through work, so it didn't end up being as good as I had hoped. Still it seemed pretty cutting edge at the time, as I recall it. always wondered what had happened to Matrox after I jumped ship, so thank you for the interesting history lesson.
@kaylaandjimbryant8258
@kaylaandjimbryant8258 3 жыл бұрын
I saw an ad for them a couple of weeks back. Apparently they moved into machine vision space (manufacturing, automated assembly lines, etc). I was surprised to see they are still around. Back in the day I had the millenium card and it wasn't bad for the time.
@vh9network
@vh9network 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, that card screamed power. I remember cause I was rocking a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and it could not handle Doom 3. But that Radeon 9700 Pro chomp through that game with ease with that DirectX 9 support. NVIDIA had moved to the Geforce FX line and that card was a flop.
@enilenis
@enilenis 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Matrox Mystique G200. Was my first GPU. Original card went bad few years ago, but I couldn't let go of it, so I bought another one. Even have the 8mb VRAM upgrade. In 2D it can process HD windows desktop applications effortlessly. Gaming-wise, best kept at 800x600. I loved running demoscene files on a G200. Matrox chips were popular with shader junkies.
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545 5 ай бұрын
I bought a Parhelia 512 around 2004. I don't know what I was thinking.
@jasonhowe1697
@jasonhowe1697 4 жыл бұрын
this was the last pci card prior to conversion to agp and the later pci-x and pci-e graphics interface, like most pci gpu's of that time period they were a slighted upgrade graphics performance from onboard solutions, graphics engines of the pc ghost recon game and novalogics graphics engines of the delta force series, somewhere from a 486-686 processor pre 1GHz systems, and up to xp, noting the business level matrox cards were designed to be used as productivity monitors matrox died in 2005 as a video card maker.. noting to run this on a modern system you would be needing a pci-e to pci adapter.. though i doubt it would work unless you are playing 20+ year old games and you would have to patch the cards bios if you want to use default 1080 which is the minimum support on anything with a vga connection can't comment on DVI/dvi-d 1080p out of vga has been a known thing in the last 5-10 years.. the only thing that shits me when people period correct pc builds in most cases anything from 3.11/3.1 to windows 10 should run on a modern 64bit system, yes it might a bitch in the install however if it lives on steam you should be able to play silly buggers with it whether it be 8bit, 16bit, 32bit or 64bit.. in operation.. At the end of the day you are using a card which was designed to be used within the stock exchange or CAD applications it was never designed to run games
@andrei-kob
@andrei-kob 4 жыл бұрын
So nostalgic! - I have some Matrox cards in my collection - PCI Matrox Mistique (1996), PCI Matrox G200 and AGP Matrox G450 - I even use for a while PCI G200 when my video card fails!
@MerpSquirrel
@MerpSquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these and a top of the line AMD card at the time and the matrox blew it out of the water in almost every game. Was so disappointed it didnt work out for them.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Matrox! They still exist you know. They're just a bit west of Montreal. ATi still exists too. They're just a bit north of Toronto. I'll never forget just how odd the Matrox Millennium card was. It looked like two cards sndwiched together like a folded slice of pizza. We Canadians seem to be pretty good at tech. LOL
@speeedskater
@speeedskater 4 жыл бұрын
never knew this a gaming card, I was running 3 monitors for video editing, it was perfect
@KJohansson
@KJohansson 3 жыл бұрын
What Matrox truely had earlier was a noice free VGA output. Compare to most cards at the time they where sharper than the most. I always went for Matrox for office users, for 2d they where second to none.
@Vranish76
@Vranish76 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Ty the Tasmanian Tiger music.
@TeunisD
@TeunisD 3 жыл бұрын
So, why did Matrox not use any capacitors as the competition did? I think this one looks very nice because of that reason. I just wonder why Matrox electrical circuit design looks so different?
@tessjdt
@tessjdt 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox did bring some neat tech to the industry such as EMBM. I remember with the G200/400 series when they introduced it was amazing. They are also the multi-monitor king The sweet spot was back in the Voodoo days having a G400 with a V2. I really was a huge fan of them and wished they had kept up with the comp.
@d0ugk
@d0ugk 4 жыл бұрын
I would think a g400 especially the max on its own would hold up well to a voodoo2. The g200/400 were really good cards on their own till Nvidia released the geforce. Everything matrox did after the g400 was pretty much a rehash of the g400 core with smaller silicon process and higher clocks till the parhelia came along. But yeah back in the day pairing a matrox millennium/mystique with a voodoo card was probably the ultimate setup.
@tessjdt
@tessjdt 4 жыл бұрын
@@d0ugk OH it did! What I meant as a sweet spot was the best of both worlds at the time. I remember using a utility called 3D switcher that allowed you to switch between the voodoo or other GPU (ATi, Nvidia, Matrox, PowerVR, etc... ) Remember back then some games were optimized to specific API/GPU and ran better on Voodoo than other cards.
@pierregrobbelaar9116
@pierregrobbelaar9116 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox are still around not sure around in 202.But i got a dual xeon server from 2010 and the onboard display are matrox.Only problem is im limited to win server 2008.It does not have drivers for anything else.
@wrmusic8736
@wrmusic8736 10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing Parhelia on the shelves back in 2002. What seemed weird to me is how the box advertised how well it ran Warcraft 3. Except even integrated GPUs ran Warcraft 3 well. It was not a demanding game at all. Killer apps for 2002 were Morrowind and Unreal Tournament 2003. Of course Matrox didn't advertise Parhelia for those.
@nissimtrifonov5314
@nissimtrifonov5314 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox makes lots of frame grabber cards now, which are used in computer vision applications
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 3 жыл бұрын
true was, that Matrox drivers, cards, features, everything worked like a charm. They should come back to gamers market. There was something about that company.
@Aarkwrite
@Aarkwrite 2 жыл бұрын
I remember wanting one of these back in the day.
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on the final PowerVR card, the Kyro II. I wanted to Kyro III to come out only for ST to pull out last minute and force Imagination Technologies to go mobile
@jokerzwild00
@jokerzwild00 4 жыл бұрын
PowerVR had some potential. Some really interesting tech on their cards.
@adamn.4111
@adamn.4111 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Kyro II. I couldn't believe how cheap it was for the performance it had. I was sad to see them not develop that concept further.
@faolor6468
@faolor6468 4 жыл бұрын
Power be still makes phone gpus though, right?
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 4 жыл бұрын
@@faolor6468 yeah but after arm started selling Mali, Apple started making their own GPU and QUALCOMM has the Adreno only a few Chinese companies are using the PowerVR. Think they might get killed off in a few years.
@MasterDrood
@MasterDrood 4 жыл бұрын
Wow its being years since the last time I saw a Matrox card
@Nathan-gj8ch
@Nathan-gj8ch 4 жыл бұрын
My first AGP card was a Matrox Marvel G400-TV blew peoples minds in 99 and a few years later that i was capturing TV and sharing it with people a thing called bittorrent
@ErikZarth
@ErikZarth 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the market would have been like if Matrox and 3DFX would have still been making consumer gaming cards into the later 2000s.
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 2 жыл бұрын
Matrox's 2 biggest mistakes that put them out of business were both management decisions. First, they diverted their budgets from engineering new products to marketing and sales, cutting their engineering staff. Management was under the mistaken impression in 2000 that they weren't selling more product because they weren't marketing enough. Second, the engineering department was directed to aim for business graphics at first, then changed back and forth repeatedly between gaming and business graphics. Management simply didn't understand the market they were in, made decisions on what they thought, didn't stick with any particular aim for long term, and basically sabotaged their whole product line.
@slaapliedje
@slaapliedje Жыл бұрын
Half way through the video... the badassery of the Parhelia was triple-head gaming. Play UT2004 on three screens... I warped my table from having 3x21" CRTs on it... so worth it!
@charlesturner897
@charlesturner897 4 жыл бұрын
This is convenient timing, I just installed drivers for a matrox G200eH today on my Haswell based server
@jub8891
@jub8891 4 жыл бұрын
google is watching
@ambigousBarrel
@ambigousBarrel 3 жыл бұрын
I got this card with an old Pentium 4 541 and 2gigs of DDR. I love it for some reason it, I know it's not as compatible as some cards but it is a rather uncommon card now and has a great feature set for a direct x 8.1 GPU :) Runs Need for Speed Underground as well which surprised me as a lot of people say that this card is good for anything from the late 90's up to 2002 :)
@thumbwarriordx
@thumbwarriordx 4 жыл бұрын
These were particularly attractive in a world where ATI and NVidia could only support two displays per card. That era did not take long to end. Though 3D surround spanning did take quite a few more years. If you were gonna need an extra graphics card anyway because the Matrox ain't a performer... You could run 4 displays off two NV/ATI cards instead.
@Aranimda
@Aranimda 8 ай бұрын
I wonder how gaming would have been on the Matrox M9188. Probably the fastest card they made in-house.
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob 3 ай бұрын
Proof that gamers would rather have garbage quality cards if it means more performance. Impressive that this thing has solid frame times and consistent performance. Much rather a very consistent lower FPS than an inconsistent higher FPS. Reminds me of console graphics.
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond 4 жыл бұрын
Proundly running a Matrox M9138 Graphics card in my work PC. It's awesome :)
@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel
@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel 4 жыл бұрын
Matrox still makes GPU's and hardware. but not competing with nvidia and amd anymore.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's fortunate, if you watch the video you'll know that as of 2014 they've been using AMD GPUs
@jeffreywhitney
@jeffreywhitney 4 жыл бұрын
At the same time, Number 9 : graphics cards smashed Matrox. I had Number 9's and were side kick of Silicon Graphics. The filters on Number 9's set them apart.
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