Buffed SSB Vs. Buffed SSBE Which Is Better After DLC 16? Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

[@calebhubbard6398]

Beeb debating between these skills. Both are absolutely great. I like ssbe more. It does absolutely insane damage and has great stamina recovery

[@xmanofficial]

Especially with Gogeta’s super soul🔥

[@calebhubbard6398]

@@xmanofficial bro. I tried that today. Even blue evolved almost doesn't drain AT ALL. Its broken

[@Jeptheplay]

@@calebhubbard6398 broken?? its how its meant to be!!

[@calebhubbard6398]

@@Jeptheplay lol

[@dunstik8842]

You take something like 12% less damage taken in SSBE. I think that's something you missed.

[@nathengriffiths-holland7038]

I think the damage reduction is actually 10% but don’t know

[@Miroku16X]

Wasn't it 12% more damage. I maybe wrong.

[@holyflamelegendvargas2804]

​@@Miroku16X that was blue's debuff pre update. Blue evolved always had a 10% buff

[@johnbrungard8628]

He also forgot the % for stam and speed. It says improved but by how much?

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

This man is the dude always getting straight to the point and not beating around the bush. Thank you for that man. OG.

[@metalhead41294]

For SSB if you use the Gogeta super soul our strengths aren’t just added together your ki will actually increase

[@Percival917]

And how do you get that again?

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

@@Percival917 it's a dlc PQ drop super soul

[@ExploudLOS]

@@rohuffgamingakaLea1576 what’s the name of the super soul

[@metalhead41294]

@@ExploudLOS our two strengths aren’t just added together

[@Getright33]

Big thanks 🙏🏾

[@sergionavarrocardenas1586]

Also, Cabby forgot to mention that SSBE gives u a 10 or 12% Defense Buff. I predict is gonna be SS Blue, cus it's permanent with the "I think I'm warmed up" and it gives u the same DMG as SSBE.

[@TheLuconic]

But use that super soul with SSBE and it’s going even further beyond!!!!!

[@sergionavarrocardenas1586]

@@TheLuconic Yeah I know, but if you want to use skills/moves especially Ultimates, you better go with Blue cus even if it reaches "0" Ki, you still transformed.

[@lilweedle6013]

@@sergionavarrocardenas1586 not to be Toxic. But SSBE is the strongest awoken skill now I've said it for awhile when it got Buffed. SSB has the better Ki control but like SSBE was made to be better then ssb

[@sergionavarrocardenas1586]

@@lilweedle6013 That's like me saying in the Anime/Manga, SSJ 3 is stronger than SSJ 2 cus it was made with that intention, and yet we almost never see it due to its inefficient power to stamina ratio. You said the same as nothing.

[@lilweedle6013]

@@sergionavarrocardenas1586 SSJ3 also got a buff this update? lol also SSJ3 is used alot more then Super Vegeta 2. Super Vegeta 2 is a ki blast increase SSJ3 is both Ki and melee don't believe me? Test them both out in training more then write a reply (not being toxic just sayin)

[@daishaunholmes2298]

You forgot that ssbe gives a minus 10% in damage reduction

[@dNEARb]

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[@goinglicense4887]

You should do a video on how ssj3 got buffed with its stamina regen

[@sonodv1709]

Ssj3 got buffed?

[@goinglicense4887]

@@sonodv1709 yeah the stamina regen got increased so you can actually get it back while transformed

[@Tony_Kaku]

I use that with Gotenks recent Super Soul on a preset and love the balance since SS3 has high defence stats.

[@novacore4597]

Bro why did he forget that ssbe gives a 10% dmg resistance as well

[@bradtussey827]

personally I love both but I'm using Blue Evolution mixed with Fu's super soul so I can use a move like Emperor's Death Beam and if my health is above 70% I won't leave the SSBE awoken so it is definitely my favorite at this point in time

[@dandrelewis7431]

These new buffs are off the chain, I can't wait for the Super Hero Pack 2 to come out!

[@Lady_Aleera]

My main is currently super saiyan 3, it got a small buff in stamina regen (which helps a lot) and I kinda like how it has high defense anyway. Add the new Gotenks SS, blow those stats in the sky... Imma be saucy asf, when I give those ssbe and beast, mains these hands 🥊🥊 Also I love the stance of ssj3 more, intimidating glare and ape primal look

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

Personally I think the DBS Gogeta super soul would be better for super Saiyan 3 due to the low ki generation plus it would increase your stamina regen further

[@theytalkabouteli]

W vid thank you for your dedication to this game and everything you do, keep it up 💯💯

[@quinneveringham6198]

I discovered that not only divinity unleashed charging speed is about or exactly the same as maximum charge and meditation last longer but if u use meditation and then divinity unleashed u can actually maintain meditation along with divinity unleashed and keep it going with only divinity unleashed. If u get the timing right, it last man.

[@KeepingLocket44]

for me i thought blue was top 3-4 it was wasy to manage,but now it easier and they gave evo pretty much the same drain. So for me evo is better since i already had stuff that maintained blue. now i got it hitting 10% harder and with even more DR

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

You and folks like Burcol are the best man. I mean always getting on things I have questions about or never tried in the game etc.

[@primalvelocity3811]

Burcol is pathetic. he's overrated.

[@rauldelgado9409]

Ssbe + gotenks new super soul, a charged heavy punch took nearly half a bar of health off my poor opponent

[@primalvelocity3811]

What's your Saiyan build?

[@rauldelgado9409]

@@primalvelocity3811 male saiyan Health 0 Ki 35 Stamina 25 Basic attack 125 Stroke super 90 Ki blast super 125 Qq bang Health 5, Ki 5, Stam 5 basic 5, strike super-2, ki blast super-2

[@NineNovem]

Yo, everyone! It's been a while! My incredibly concerning need to tie exact numbers to everything has produced more data: Assuming you're using Gogeta's Super Soul, SSBE will drain one bar every 58.667 seconds. Stretch that out to roughly 9 and a quarter bars (which I have), and that equals 8:45 minutes of continuous use if you're just standing there. To give some perspective, this setup makes SSBE 14.667 times more efficient than it was on day one with no super soul (it was one bar every 4 seconds back then). So yeah. Pretty wild, man.

[@TenkaiTai]

I think we can agree that a major reason SSG is not the best is because of the inputs that make your character stiff when trying to square triangle

[@DeadlyMasthar]

The timed input mechanic is what removes the step cancels.

[@TenkaiTai]

@@DeadlyMasthar exactly

[@Animfateblade874]

SSB: Best in Story and Free Story. SSBE: Best in PvP, PvE, and Raid. Rip Beast Form but still good awaken. Lol

[@JabYT1]

Evo is the correct answer. Also, Evo gives you a slight boost in defense.

[@TMind109]

I mean Blue also gives defence, just not as much a Evo

[@paulgentili1425]

They both do, Evo does more defense.

[@JabYT1]

@@paulgentili1425 I know Blue does. Cabby just didn’t mention that Evo does.

[@felipeferraz9068]

SS Blue Evo also reduce damage recieved by 10% (or 12%, don't remember now)

[@spiralkingxiii9496]

personally i like ssb better with the vegeta ss "think im finally warmed up now!!" you have 0 ki drain better ki recovery due to the auto ki recovery and with the M boost to all attacks its just as strong as ssbe without a ss. sure ssbe can be better with the same ss but youll still have ki drain which is why imo ssb is just better

[@deltatdk6360]

Evo blue buff is by far the best in terms of ki drain to power ratio but blue got alot of love as well even less ki drain with a big buff to damage taken from +12% to -5% which is a big 17% total difference from before so either one to be honest

[@sage16]

Nah ssb is better

[@sage16]

The only thing ssbe has over regular blue is the 10% more damage that’s it

[@deltatdk6360]

@@sage16 it has more speed and damage reduction with the extra damage even after the buff blue got Evo is much better now with how easy it is to mention like cabby provided in the vid

[@deltatdk6360]

@@sage16 either way there both good they needed the buff's especially Evo because of that ki drain before

[@sage16]

@@deltatdk6360 I hope you realize the speed difference is barely noticeable

[@johnbrungard8628]

I see they still have the balance outta whack when comparing Saiyans to everyone else. Some things never change 😅

[@superduperfelixparker6252]

Has anyone checked to see if there was any buffs or nerfs applied to any of the other super sayian forms or super sayian god? They definitely tweaked other awoken skills, they basically removed the purified guard all together and they buffed super sayian 3’s stamina recovery

[@adonisrobbins_nonis]

Does SSBE also have 10 damage reduction? That’s what it said online when I looked yesterday.

[@battlelordo1432]

when you chose divinity unleashed instead of meditation and the nerf to meditation didn't bother you

[@glennwallace2137]

I still like using potential unleashed just cause the ki charging is the fastest

[@mikeblue8327]

The best awoken for pq is ssg because is more easy to manage the charging energy is quicker and you can do more super and ultimate attack in this form especially when you have a timer, for PVE = ssg for PVP = SSB

[@ExploudLOS]

What super soul do you use

[@goddessofdestructiondiana]

I figure it out how to stay in blue and sobe permanent use Doedon Rey one of your supers and use the super-soul for it to can you can pretty much stay in blue and blue evolution permanently

[@michaeldavila9715]

SSB And SSBE are now the best Awoken Skills besides Beast Mode.

[@claybricks3689]

they both are better than beast

[@superboygamer9095]

beast is a terrible awoken what are you on about

[@michaeldavila9715]

@@superboygamer9095 Beast really isn't bad. The only consequences of the Awoken Skill Is that you take noticeable more damage and it takes away 5 Ki Bars. Don't get me wrong I do think they should give Beast a good buff, but it's still not terrible.

[@anthonymiller6914]

beast vs ssg next skill test please

[@dancooke8811]

I never had trouble in fact....sometimes I was kicked out of ranked lobbies because my CaC is broken

[@thereemx5953]

Blue evo is the best! What is the best pve awoken for freeza race? Btw

[@mostvaluedcomodity09]

Depends on the type of Frieza you running if blast base golden form is fine if melee then beast if both then also beast

[@JonasRosado]

Pretty sure beast because it's 30% more damage across the board but I'd say golden if you want the increase in speed

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

Potential Unleashed

[@lilweedle6013]

@@ekoyal_gemu4446 nah after the form buffs and beast mode being added potential Unleashed sorta became irrelevant but then again Turn gold has always been above potential Unleashed in terms of Ki blast damage

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

@@lilweedle6013 golden form only offers Ki blast damage and a defense Nerf this is basically the same thing but offers damaged across-the-board however the transforming animation is to punishable I would rather run potential Unleashed then Beast or golden as they are right now when it comes to competitiveness.

[@mrmiagi6052]

Reduced damage is 10% in blue evolution, 5 in blue

[@beastlyman114]

I know itd probably take a bit, but would it be possible for you to make a tier list type of thing or just a list or smth similar with all the super saiyan forms plus kaioken p.u and beast? Like based on the buffs and debuffs they give you. Ive written down the differences that each of them give you just for my curiosity but it would be cool to see a full length video of this format of all the forms and which ones are better than which. I think itd make a dope video even if its a bit long. My list in order of how good I think they are is 1. Blue 2. Beast 3. SSBE 4. God 5. P.U 6. SV2 7. FSSJ 8. SSJ3 9. SSJ2 10. KX20 11. SV1 12. SSJ1 13. KX2 14. KX3

[@vegitobluekkx2069]

Better add future ssj not just fssj or people are gonna think its false super sayian

[@beastlyman114]

@@vegitobluekkx2069 broo the hells flash glitch days

[@ruriot689]

Honestly I think ssb is slightly better for pvp because you dint even need a super soul to manage and you get slight damage mitigation

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

You get more damage resistance on ssbe and using a super soul ssbe is extremely easy to maintain lasting 9 and a half minutes I believe with ki auto recovery mode active

[@bruh_ruok4081]

Idk y but I never use vegeta zsoul I always use gogetas maybe because faster stamina recovery idk

[@JovonWynn]

What pants are you wearing on your Cabby CaC? Custom Trunks pants? I need those.

[@mustafahussain7872]

bit late but those are time patroller suit pants. You get them from the final advancment test

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

Super saiyan god transformation got shafted compared to everything else we got

[@Naytz97]

Hate to see it

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

Because it was already good lol

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

@@MrRaphaelLippi how exactly? All it does is buff ur basic attacks. Nothing else.

[@funkystickman99]

​@@MrBob-nt9gx it buffs it quite alot + you don't need to run a super soul to keep it active.

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

@@funkystickman99 i get that. And it is cool. But my point is thats the only thing it does.

[@deathgod27]

Cabby how do we in contact for the tournament

[@nuhashrahman8408]

3:10 I thought you sneezed

[@kingrel1937]

What transformation is good for PVE. Also is meditation still needed for super sayian blue and evolve?

[@bacd-nn2lg]

SSJ Blue Evo is the best from those two, just equip Fu Super Soul "Let's begin the experiment" and you don't have to worry about the ki drain at all.

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

@@bacd-nn2lg I wouldn't use that one it only lasts as long as you have 75% or higher HP which I mean most saiyans have like 2 to 2.5 HP bars so you lose like 1/3 of an hp bar and you lose the buff I'd take DBS gogeta's one personally but some people are suggesting vegetas I'm finally warmed up now I think it was but that's a raid super soul so again I suggest DBS gogeta's

[@kingrel1937]

@@rohuffgamingakaLea1576 how do I get vegeta’s super soul? Cause I’m waiting on the next cell max raid atm. Also what’s a good super soul for beast and super sayian god?

[@MansourAlzahrani]

Good

[@blackwarrior1897]

I mean, Idk why people are suddenly attracted to SSB/SSBE all so suddenly. These transformations were still great because of Super Souls present. I.E Time For a Nap, Our 2 Strengths...., I think I'm finally..... Like why the love all of a sudden when ki hasn't been an issue for a long while?

[@lukoscreyden]

Because ki drain sucks. Micromanaging your ki is annoying. Now that these skills have less ki drain, more people are interested in playing them.

[@blackwarrior1897]

@lukoscreyden but that was already the case when these Supersouls were available. Ki was already manageable at that point. You get ki off of clashes/punches and burst charge can give you an easy 2 bars. So this sudden interests is still weird when we've had options available to us for a long while besides Meditation.

[@IIIISai]

@@blackwarrior1897 again, understand his point, not everyone wants to micromanage their ki, the less stuff u focus on the better

[@blackwarrior1897]

@-彡JustSaiyan That's the key thing though, there's barely any micromanagement since these supersouls relieve so much ki drain and pressure. I was more worried about my ki at launch of these transformations as opposed to the options we have now. Meditation and Android 17/18's supersouls were the only options. And they weren't that good.

[@IIIISai]

@@blackwarrior1897 depends on your Playstyle and game mode, ki managing is more annoying in PvE, but PvP it's more fast paced and comes naturally,

[@jeremyl2728]

I think ssj3 is my new favorite transformation in the game. 1) looks the coolest to me. 2) it gives the most defensive biff off sayain forms. Im weird and like to make a tanky sayian lol. But also because of the 15% def buff you can put the cell max raid super soul on and still have 5% extra def with a 25% boost in attacks

[@IIIISai]

im assuming your character is tall, wide, and has max health stats?

[@jeremyl2728]

@@IIIISai well my character does have max height but I only have 80 HP because with a plus 5qbang max height in anything over 50 HP male sayians you barely get any thing for it at all. Like a ki bar length for the extra thirty points. Some I have like 2/3 of the full health bar at the beginning of a match. And my width is middle cause I like both ki and strikes

[@IIIISai]

@@jeremyl2728 Thats a cool build

[@jeremyl2728]

@@IIIISai thanks! With my qq bang I got my ki, stamina, ki super, strike, very even with it other and then the hp and attack spike. Stats looking like a ruby lol

[@IIIISai]

@@jeremyl2728 Very intriguing stuff bro, ssj3 fanbase is big in Xenoverse based off the many comments I see in videos, Too bad kaioken wasn't developed well to have a niche fanbase

[@marsplanetary8513]

So last night I was using ssj3 and I was fighting majuub and goku and I had on Gohan adult gi on top and bottom with bardocks hands and gokus no character gi for feet and I turned ssj3 and it turn my clothes all black except for the hands and feet, is that a glitch or part of the update?

[@lilweedle6013]

Did ur hair turn Black too? Looked like SSJ3 but the hair was black?

[@lilweedle6013]

If so then you encounter the Old "Evil SSj3" glitch

[@marsplanetary8513]

@@lilweedle6013 no it didn't actually it just turned the same as usual the clothes turned black I even tried the entire original outfit and it all turned black it also did that with all the other Saiyan transformations

[@lilweedle6013]

@@marsplanetary8513 I see

[@marsplanetary8513]

@@lilweedle6013 I may try an evil gohan build, but I really like how it does that, certain outfits slightly get darker when you transform like gokus gt gi, if only we had the same thing happen with all the clothes, instead of getting brighter.

[@goddessofdestructiondiana]

Can you do a new Ultimate attack playlist ranking for all ultimate attacks

[@deathblade8107]

Beast

[@0lenny0]

Can u do a video about the buffed ssj3 too?

[@ali-chrono]

I want you to hear me out, ok? Imo ssj 3 is 2nd best better than ssb for a couple of reasons 1. The new stamina buff 2. High defense which is better than even ssbe 3.if you use a super soul like (I am super vegeta) you get a 15% buff to the blast supers which add up to 25% which is the same damage to ssb which means it's either the same or better than ssb in every stat execpt strike supers which is by only 5% all of that without ki drain

[@IIIISai]

interesting, but wouldn't any super soul on ssj3, placed on blue just do more damage anyway, also im assuming the stam regen is slow, I appreciate your admiration for ssj3 but the issue with this game is it makes some awokens just much better, but an awoken chart for ssj3 and blue side by side in stats can help compare, and ssj3 seems viable in pvp probably, pve blue better

[@ali-chrono]

@-彡JustSaiyan they fixed the stamina its actually normal now and yes it's better for pvp but for pve I might aswell go for ssbe since its gotten a buff now

[@IIIISai]

@@ali-chrono alright as for pvp, since we agree on pve, is the 15 damage for ssj3 or 25 depending on the soul, better than a blue pvp build

[@ali-chrono]

@-彡JustSaiyan I mean it really depends on your play style since if you use super attacks a lot even with a super soul for ssb managing the ki depletion isn't perfect but with ssj3 you get more defense than ssb and at the cost of only 5% on strike supers

[@IIIISai]

@@ali-chrono fair enough

[@Ryakkusu]

*sitting here still rockin with base ssj*

[@primalvelocity3811]

You're missing out, on a lot.

[@Ryakkusu]

@@primalvelocity3811 i wouldnt say so, i still see base ssj as a solid transformation, while it doesnt have the absurd dmg boost i still get a decent enough dmg bonus, def mitigation plus the no loss in ki so i can stay in it as long as i want or dial back when i want to increase my ki regeneration. Plus it comes out pretty fast as well so not too big of a worry of being stamina broken from it

[@galleRAG12193]

ima use it a bunch now

[@tylerneal5390]

any super souls that help beast out or and builds that are for beast? they should not only have fixed these but the other races like gold form

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

I don't have any PvP ones but I have several ideas if you want to hear em

[@toastyhashbrown6744]

Blue evolved gives u a 10% defense to all attacks

[@Jeptheplay]

tried in so many ways, and beast form allways does WAYYYY more damage then any blue forms!!! fuck yesss

[@ExploudLOS]

What is your super soul?

[@pementerprises7706]

Ssbe gets a 10% defense buff…

[@JabYT1]

^ another reason why Evo is objectively better than Blue

[@TMind109]

I thought it was 10%, regardless its +5%-+7% more than Blue

[@amirmoneyplayz8757]

@@JabYT1 well it is called super saiyan blue “evolved”

[@JabYT1]

@@amirmoneyplayz8757 yet people still say Blue is better

[@j.astromelody7082]

I love your content, but you messed up. SSB Vs SSBE both have Defenssive buffs. SSB has -5 buff, and SSBE has -10 buff. I tested it and everything. But if you don't believe me, here's the setup I used. Saiyan level 99 Two presents one with SSB and one with SSBE Opponent: super 4 Goku because he has strike skills and blasts skills. And test your base defense and then test your transformation defense you'll see the buff of both forms, but SSBE has a crazy -10 buff the second highest in the game. The first in super Saiyan 3 with a whopping Basic attack: -15 Strike skills: -15 Ki blast skills: -10 Strike Ultimates: -15 Ki blast Ultimate: -10 In my opinion super Saiyan 3 is the best skill in the game.

[@IIIISai]

Ehhh, again damage output is more important than defense, it's why not alot of people max out the health attribute, ssj3 damage stats worse than both blue forms,

[@bruh_ruok4081]

Blue evolution or blue well I think it depends on your build

[@austin31697]

I actually like Beast on my human, it almost makes them a half breed like Gohan in a sense. Beast gives humans dang near Saiyan abilities plus humans have ki Regen. Sorry I know the vid.was about SSBE

[@WeluvGmoney]

Ssj3 revisit?

[@JahovasFitness]

Evolution gets a defense boost as well (I believe its actually stronger than regular blue's defense too). As for which is better, I think the super soul matters now more than ever for that. Regular blue's ki drain is such a non-issue now that you could realistically run super souls that aren't focused around negating the ki drain and make up the damage difference. Alternatively, you could still run the DBS Gogeta/Vegeta "warmed up" soul for for net 0 drain or even positive recovery. Blue evolution still kinda needs those two souls cuz even though its drain rate is still better than pre-buff regular Blue's drain, it's still noticable. Evo with the Gogeta soul is pretty much a no-nonsense setup that'll work with any build while Blue could probably run souls like "claws and fangs" or even the new Gotenks soul and be absolutely stacked on damage compared to Evo builds that negate ki drain. Either way, they're still fighting for top 1. Just a matter of comfiness vs speedier results.

[@IIIISai]

Exactly these forms are interchangeable lol, I think if there's a form tierlist they should add blue as one form, just different modes, blue evo in pve relies on ki souls and also micromanaging depending on the soul, it is not viable without a setup, the setup either via meditation or other exploits or just souls based on ki, in pvp blue evo is quite viable and it pressures u to end the game quick, easily better than regular blue if u have good attack damage and close up moves, no matter the setup I believe in pvp that evo is better, but in pve Blue is much better with more options and playstyles and setups, and even tho evo is better in pvp, blue is also super good on pvp as well, evo is 7/10 in pve unless u use the meditation glitch in which it's quite broken, or actually it's decent in pve since pre patch I managed regular blue pve anyways, Conclusion is Blue as a whole is the best in the game, just depends on the game mode your doing, me and u basically said the same thing tbh

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

Cabby. Cabby. We need playable kaioshins and playable androids.

[@TMind109]

Kais won't get involved unless absolutely necessary and because there is a limited amount of them it would go against the lore of kaioshins. Androids could be a new class of Saiyans or Earthlings but because of the time rifts that each class is given the Android race won't get an awoken skill at all just the universal ones

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

@@TMind109 really my guy? Your gonna bring up the and question the limited numbers of kais, in a game where theres a fuck ton, a litteral lore breaking amount levels of fuck tons of saiyans, frost demons, and majins? And your right, androids could be a new class of saiyans or earthlings if we go the 17 & 18 style of androids, but what about fully machine androids or cell & 21 style bio androids? We could have them as a full races

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

@@trekthehappyturtle454 his point about Kai's makes sense, your point about saiyans does not. I'm fairly certain xenoverse takes place in the same Universe as dragon ball online which was in age 1,000 where saiyans had just multiplied like saibamen. If you take a look at Kai's in dragon ball in it's entirety as a franchise there aren't a lot of them. There's the 4 Galaxy Kai's, the one above him, the 4 associated with shin and their leader, kibito elder Kai, the supreme Kai's of each Universe, Zamasu, gowasu, chronoa, and a couple others in heroes. That's pretty much it and keep in mind the Kai's are literally millions of years olds and outside of Universe 7 we've only seen 1 per Universe other than Zamasu and the ones in heroes

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

@@rohuffgamingakaLea1576 yeah chief, your right, xenoverse 2 does take place 148 years before dragonball online, however your entire claims about saiyans is deadass wrong, and your claim on kais are weak. Out besides cast charaters, there are no saiyans in dragonball online, closest thing you got to saiyans are earthlings with saiyan ancestory so small & minesquel that they have to summon shenron and demand to be abke to go ssj1. And for kaioshins, yeah their limited in the anime, but that still hasent stopped them from being playable in heroes, and fusions. Theres no excuse why they cant be in xv2, especially when we got a big ass tree growing them in the time nest. " In Dragon Ball Online, it is revealed that by Age 1000 that all pure Saiyans within Universe 7 had gone extinct, though the Saiyan bloodline lives on through Goku and Vegeta's hybrid descendants. By summoning Shenron with one of the multiple sets of Earth Dragon Balls created by Dende, Shenron can unlock his or her latent Saiyan potential to achieve their Super Saiyan form, though it is unclear if Saiyans can achieve the form through traditional means." -earthling page/article in the dragonball wiki "It has been officially stated that Saiyans will not be a playable race in Dragon Ball Online because they went extinct sometime after Dragon Ball Z. Fans of the series have different opinions regarding the decision of the development team, however it is a fact that there are no official plans of introducing the Saiyan race to Dragon Ball Online as a playable race." -saiyan page/article dragonball wiki

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

@@trekthehappyturtle454 Not wrong about saiyans just didn't explain it properly which is my fault as I was going off memory but many Earthlings in Online were Saiyan descendants, idk why you think the cast Character is the only one that matters especially when as you said xenoverse2 happened before online and there's a bunch of Saiyans in Conton City. They couldn't wish to go Super Saiyan if they weren't saiyans in Online because of how the dragon balls work. And you misunderstood I didn't say Kais couldn't be in xenoverse2 or playable for that matter I personally very much want Androids, Kais, and many other races to be playable in Dragon Ball games, but that doesn't mean I'm going to deny the in-universe reasons as to why Kais might not be playable, that's simply dependent on the developers they could go off my logic of the limited representation of Kais and say they shouldn't be playable or they could say well Kai's are an existing race, are cool, and should be playable. Am I going to bash them for doing one or the other? No, but I'm fully aware of the fact there are reasons behind either of those decisions. Also I already checked the Fandom page and why provide both of those citings? They clearly contradict each other with the first mentioning Saiyan potential, which obviously only Saiyans and their offspring/descendants can have, while the second goes against that and makes absolutely no sense, given the Earthlings going Super Saiyan have to be Saiyan descended which means the Saiyans couldn't be extinct. It also shows whoever wrote the second one didn't pay attention to the fact ONLY PURE-BLOODED SAIYANS HAD GONE EXTINCT. As in Goku, Vegeta, and Broly as of the end of the Broly Movie being the only 3 still living Pure Saiyans, that doesn't mean Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Pan all of sudden bit the dust. The sad thing is the fandom is supposed to be one of the best sources of information and whoever wrote that page as well as stated Saiyans aren't playable didn't take the time to think about the fact only Saiyans can go Super Saiyan, even Cell who has Super Saiyan like forms is part Saiyan, but I'm not going to bash the developers because I'm sure what they meant was Pure Saiyans wouldn't be playable or just a specifically named "Saiyan" race like how in xenoverse2 we have both a Saiyan and Earthling race and only picking a Saiyan gives you access to said Super Saiyan forms even tho an Earthling CaC could be a Saiyan/Earthling hybrid by Character lore but the customization of Xenoverse2 would force the person making said CAC to pick one or the other. In which case, only the person writing that article should be bashed.

[@hollow6665]

id like to use this but im fairly new to DBX2 so i dont have the soul to make this work if you guys know a different soul that could be a close second let me know

[@KaiokenCombat]

“My backs is tingly” a caulifla super soul. It vamps any charge by a ton. Burst charge & maximum charge is best for tht method. Also i believe a Fu super soul but tht isnt worth having to keep health 75% or above.

[@lilweedle6013]

@@KaiokenCombat I belive he means no Dlc. At all

[@lilweedle6013]

In that case i guess "Just win okay?" Or "getting beat up makes me cranky" is the best choices for Non Dlc unless yall have a better one.

[@KaiokenCombat]

@@lilweedle6013 not sure if “HAAAAAAA” is dlc but its fantastic for a quick burst charge

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

I know it's in the TP medal shop but idk if it's dlc but before I got DBS gogeta's super soul, a dlc one, I ran Majin Buu's time for a little nap super soul

[@nightplayer1994.]

Female saiyans with ssb got fixed as well

[@TheLuconic]

Fixed how? I didn’t know it was broken… I use female saiyan a, please tell Meh!!!!

[@nightplayer1994.]

@@TheLuconic you were doing less damage than your base form with your basic combos

[@melvynbanks08]

🐺

[@manicityfps5150]

Ssj god became fodder lmao.

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

I said the same lol. Its useless

[@SSBJET]

It was just some extra food for wolves in the end they wanted to use that transformation as a stepping stone when really it should be like the movie and have a slight healing ability like in the show or some kind of effect that still lingers when you power down

[@IIIISai]

@@SSBJET yea I made a chart a while back on how cool it can really be, but look at how lame ssjgod goku is, vegeta is cool but still, god goku in the movie was more slim, had fire aura, healing, and cool techniques

[@thirdeyemafia]

Nice 💪🏽🐉🪶

[@sage16]

I’d say ssb is better just because it has the lower ki drain and the defense buff as well and they both do damage so that doesn’t really matter

[@felixchuah2854]

But what about Beast vs SSBE

[@JabYT1]

No comparison. Evo is superior.

[@calebhubbard6398]

Absolutely no competition. Evo is better in every way. More damage. 12% dmg taken reduction. Vs 25% more Damage taken in beast. 35% boost across the board vs 30%. Insane stamina recovery in blue. Evo takes it really easy

[@felixchuah2854]

@@calebhubbard6398 well both are OP

[@MustangJ-dz2wm]

Evo all day

[@TheBlankEvolved]

We need a glass canon transformation tbh

[@epicnessoflegends]

That's pretty much beast especially with the new super soul

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

Beast got you govered Golden form got you covered Kaioken got you covered

[@IIIISai]

@@trekthehappyturtle454 I hate how the devs ruined kaioken, I wish it was the best glass cannon in the game, 75-85 or more damage, hear me out 💀💀, but 50-60 Negative defense, health drains and stamina drains, that can be the awoken of kaioken, they should add a kaioken skill that can go up to times 5, and the lowest is times 2, and basically u hold the move to detransform, but if u wanna just become higher stages u just keep using the move till your times 5, and the health u take increases, max increase of damage for times 5 kaioken skill power up is 15 percent, and u take 15 percent more damage, see the awoken is the insane glass gannon, while the skill is more balanced, and ofc the speed of the character increases with the damage, the skill can be stacked on any transformation, and if u stack it on the kaioken awoken, that's also cool

[@archflamingo9156]

If ssjbe is the best transformation awakened I wonder what’s the worse

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

Id say super saiyan god since all it does is boost your basic attacks and nothing else. Kinda poop tbh

[@aldahry4573]

@@MrBob-nt9gx Isn’t super saiyan transformations the worst ?

[@Underworldwarrior1]

Power Pole Pro probably

[@rohuffgamingakaLea1576]

I'd say purification personally

[@MrBob-nt9gx]

@@aldahry4573 no they give u more than ssg does which makes no sense

[@theytalkabouteli]

Ngl this is off topic, I think potential unleashed is better on my female earlthing

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

Neither. Beast all the way. Earthling superiority.

[@MrTron2008]

Ssb cause with a super soul it doesn't drain ki as evolution still does

[@JabYT1]

The same applies for Evo. The ki drain on Evo is already manageable as is w/o a super soul.

[@MustangJ-dz2wm]

@@JabYT1 Exactly. Its so easy to maintain evo now.

[@awwefan3790]

I will be using ssb just because i can use emperor death beam without losing the transformarion 🙏🏻🤌🏻

[@IIIISai]

Broken indeed