BUFFED TRICK ROOM MIMIKYU is so GOOD and BAD at the same Time

BUFFED TRICK ROOM MIMIKYU is so GOOD and BAD at the same Time | Pokemon Unite

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@unamusedheavy1885 Ай бұрын

It would've been good if Trick Room slows players that get speed buffs such as when someone uses Xspeed, they get punished for using it.

@Prince_Spoopy Ай бұрын

Another comment for the Algorithm what Cris said at 7:03 is also an amazing idea. Basically make Trick Room like Gwen’s (also from league) second ability: Hallowed Mist. Creating a zone where Gwen/Mimikyu are IMMUNE from ranged attacks outside the zone but have increased defenses when they’re inside. Gwen’s hallowed mist also moves one time if Gwen leaves the zone

@jakiru8783 Ай бұрын

Definitely would make it viable. Sounds fun to me 👍

@Prince_Spoopy Ай бұрын

I’ve always wanted the devs to rework trick room. The way I see if I would love for them to make it similar to Aurora’s and Camille’s ultimate from League where instead of damage reduction it enhances Mimikyu’s healing (nerf shadow claw healing when not used in TR btw) and traps enemies temporarily unless they have dash or blink. I would also suggest that enemies and teammates cannot come into the zone either unless they were in the cast zone already.

@StickBruh3rd Ай бұрын

My rework of trick room are: 1. Speed and slow are reverse in trick room. (Mimikyu gain speed boost in trick room when it slow, why not other way around. This might seem like a nerf but this effect enemy in trick room as well. Etc: speedster unite speed boost become heavy slow, any pokemon gain speed become slow and flux zone function is completely flip.) 2. Decrease the distance of any dash ability include sure hit dash in trick room except the user. (This concept I believe no one think about. Ability to change distance of any dash is unique after thinking about timi buffing fell stinger on inteleon a while back. I don't have the number of how much it decrease. This can screw over some diving play while not like gravity Clefable just shutdown diving play. Travel large distance pokemon like zoroaka get screw over by trick room making it manageable while you can fight back using full heal or other methods to escape trick room in same time you can still play the game.) Here my 2 change's to trick room. Tell me what your opinion about it.

@thechristianninja2211 Ай бұрын

I think this would be pretty good. Chris needs to change slightly his playstyle, too, but this could make a support Mimikyu as in temp fights. This would be VERY helpful.

@piercemat331 Ай бұрын

The speedster puppet with speed boost revenge disguise gimmick Like what TiMi did to Blaziken and Ceruledge for being all rounders instead of speedsters despite hidden passives SECURITY!! - Me to TiMi

@blazie42069 Ай бұрын

honestly if the room was twice the size or let you dash as much as you wanted while the room was up for the brief window it would be better

@abra_escaped Ай бұрын

I think the damage reduction should also apply to dmaage from inside the room, that way the moveset could work better as the tanky option compared to the assassin shadow sneak build

@Nolan1333 Ай бұрын

Yeah maybe they have to rework by having the trick room be attached to Mimi and reducing the damage reduction

@frustratedsquirrel Ай бұрын

you're kind of using trick room wrong though...how can you say it's bad? You should be dashing constantly inside the zone to proc your empowered AA. most of the time when you use it, you're just acting like it's some sort of passive buff and only dashing when you need to catch up to someone. Trick room has its niche over Shadow Sneak becasue it allows you to both engage and retreat without the condition of having to hit anything first. You can skirt in and out of combat by spamming the dash, baiting people into using moves, etc. Even just casting trick room once at max range, you're able to immediately dash upon first casting TR, then dash from the center to the outer ring, then from the outer ring you can dash again. That's three dashes really quickly in any direction if you do it correctly, followed by potentially a Play Rough dash if you need to get away or catch someone who's fleeing. You can create a lot of distance very quickly. You also need to remember that trick room nullifies slows, so you should be using it to do stuff in the goal zone. I like Trick Room a lot more than Shadow Sneak, I feel it offers me way more versatility and greater control of my character, but it's like Lucario's Extremespeed, a lot of extra work and you have to learn the playstyle and understand the nuances of the move. Also don't dare play it on lower ping. edit: nevermind, you start using it more smartly towards the middle to end of the video, sometimes. But it's still weird to me that mimikyu players seem to undervalue trick room so much. I also play on mobile, which allows me to do the dashes a lot faster. Maybe that's why it feels more intuitive for me.

@techrider5733 Ай бұрын

Not saying you're wrong that that's what he should be doing, but doesn't he do everything you said he should be doing from 2:53 to 3:10

@janeosaka Ай бұрын

+1 on this, trick room mimikyu is a different way of playing and engaging in general. Would be dope if Cris can absorb this info and do justice for this moveset; a sad tale if he disagrees.

@devonspencer1562 Ай бұрын

Yeah I was thinking this exactly. He's playing it like he's running shadow sneak and wondering why it's not working XD. And as for the getting knocked out of it that's just a buzzwole issue, he's a menace to society that desperately needs a damage nerf for all that cc he has.

@devonspencer1562 Ай бұрын

@@techrider5733 he did bait a couple moves out but that's just Game knowledge. You see 3 people you dash out the way of incoming attacks if you have the ability. At no other point was he using trick room properly

@mayuresh2194 Ай бұрын

Well that's exactly what I think. Inside the trick room mimi is just a ripoff zoroark. I personally prefer shadow claw for trick room since it provides a ton of longetivity. You just keep dashing around using boosted attacks and shadow claw is on a super low cd too. Just use double stacking and a weakness policy and this just pops if the opponent team is on the bulkier side.

@ljfrederick2260 Ай бұрын

It's just a worse Aurora Veil, which sucks cause Mimikyu could've bridged the all-rounder/support gap.

@setk1189 Ай бұрын

Each dash in trick room should reset the cooldown of shadow claw (and to a lesser extent play rough I suppose) the problem is they already made boosted autos give shadow claw virtually zero cooldown which is just goofy.

@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын

um....you do realize that the ppint is to *empower* shadow claw right? it reduces the cooldown to basicly 0 so while your spawming boosted autos your building up a fat shadow claw

@setk1189 Ай бұрын

@@fancymustache3793 yeah but you get 2 stacks from one boosted and then shadow claw is off cooldown, there's no reason to get 2 more stacks when you can just auto, claw, auto, claw etc. The move has good dmg without stacks especially at lvl 11. It's like Cris said in the video; he felt like shadow claw was doing everything, and trick room was simply just there. If they gave shadow claw synergy with the trick room dashes it would give a reason to choose it over a *non-comital long range teleport with burst damage*

@svodkosci Ай бұрын

Trick room will never see play as long as shadow sneak is as good as it is currently

@BeethovenApologist Ай бұрын

It just felt lackluster compared to the infamous shadow sneak that once you get hitted by it you are as good as dead.

@NotTaken..696 Ай бұрын

1:35 fluck zone

@janus9148 Ай бұрын

Shadow sneek is just too iconic

@XParasiteOctoling Ай бұрын

Why play trick room when shadow sneak does so much more

@ElChicoBush Ай бұрын

I'd like to see this again but maybe against a team that is not actually melee (?) Like, if trick room is always up maybe you can basically unable all the kit of some pokémon reducing their damage by 70% if they're not next to you (which obviously they wouldn't want). Inteleon, Glaceon, Venu and others might struggle against this. But idk, that just my idea. I just don't think this was the best game to try that

@mimi_kyuwu Ай бұрын

Maybe if the trick room makes Mimikyu a ranged character then it would make sense with the damage reduction from outside the zone.

@liupompo Ай бұрын

Maybe have its shape changed. I think it being a long corridor (half as wide as it is, but twice as long) would meake it more fun to dash around and invade/escape. Also rework the speed changing aspect of it

@christopherrodriguez6041 Ай бұрын

What if they make trick room like Gwen's W. Make it smaller, but it moves with you and give less dashes, but maje them longer

@shomeitheway Ай бұрын

When trick room is actually viable, you should make the video title the release of mimikyu's domain expansion

@D_Sable Ай бұрын

This skill require u to stay in the same place to the fullest, but who tf stay in the same place 😆

@mimi_kyuwu Ай бұрын

The damage reduction thingy is so funny because you are always required to have someone under the zone to do damage yourself 😂

@cryingtomatohead8626 Ай бұрын

A main problem with trick room is that it's a support move that doesn't really provide support. The speed boost isn't really worth it, it doesn't slow opponents, doesn't grant a speed boost to allies despite the size and the dash boosted damage is laughable. There's just no reason to choose it over shadow claw.

@D_MercWithAMouth Ай бұрын

POV: when spragle plays calm :when chris plays torture

@CrisHeroes Ай бұрын

think you havent watched jake play soloq on stream lol

@D_MercWithAMouth Ай бұрын

@@CrisHeroes Couldn't make to his stream busy with my own struggle to ranking up xD

@KaiTheMemeKing Ай бұрын

Then why are you making a comparison with a streamer whose content you don't watch lol

@D_MercWithAMouth Ай бұрын

@@KaiTheMemeKing I don't go on their streams I watch their videos

@endgalaxy1321 Ай бұрын

Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't spraggles climb out of masters with a duo? The definitely takes a huge load off in my opinion

@donra2142 Ай бұрын

Chris can you do a video highlighting the damage numbers for Mewtwo y with full ability items Vs the standard muscle band rapid fire scarf build. Im not sure but it seems to me that muscle band isn't needed anymore

@piercemat331 Ай бұрын

@hydra3768 Ай бұрын

Play rough is the move to go w trick room

@WhatYouLookngAt Ай бұрын

i wonder if Ninetale's Aurora Veil + Mimikyu Trick room makes Mimikyu take zero damage against snipers or take baby damage

@ricardo1wils Ай бұрын

Trick room could be larger to make it stronger? I don’t really understand how it works but it seems like the enemy can get away from it so easily which makes it kind of useless?

@LeAndre_McCoy Ай бұрын

You said Trick Room reduces damage coming from outside. There are 4 melee on the enemy team.

@umbreoneyes Ай бұрын

Wait, you say in this vid around 6:42 that the tsreena unite move change is prob a bug but you literally made a video about how it’s not a bug? So which is it?

@Idkmaybe1 Ай бұрын

Cant they increase attack speed for mimikyu in trick room and lower enemy attack speed when they are in trick room along w the damage reduction

@noskes1 Ай бұрын

Its not bad move, Shadow Sneak is just better and much, much more fun. Catching squishy target who think is safe behind huge wall in bushes. And than combo on other attackers when move refresh feel so great :) I think that Trick Room should slow down enemies that are speed up. Altho then Dodrio players would die from sadnes.

@dark-phoenix4426 Ай бұрын

Shadow sneak is so good,the mobility is perfect...that's why..people don't pick trickroom

@piercemat331 Ай бұрын

@dark-phoenix4426 Ай бұрын

@@piercemat331 lol

@AdmiralEmberDragon Ай бұрын

I think it should be the opposite instead of taking less damage from Enemies outside they should be inside for that to be any good but obviously it would need to be nerfed cuz taking 70% damage inside is stupid around 30%-40% is fine

@trainerghost9294 Ай бұрын

I agree, bring it to the release damage reduction numbers, but make it general instead of strictly from outside sources

@siddharth4733 Ай бұрын

Which pokemon should i buy gyrados, ceruledge or miraidon

@piercemat331 Ай бұрын

@tyruku18 Ай бұрын

I think the one thing would fix Trick Room is that keep it what it is still, but make it permanently follow Mimikyu/j

@sierrablue2206 Ай бұрын

I even say increase is aoe

@kirito4918 Ай бұрын

If you forgot to say Nerf that's Pokemon i am big fan if you say Nerf that Pokemon we have to talk 😂

@Edujs23 Ай бұрын

Another darkrai moment

@piercemat331 Ай бұрын

@gursewaksingh6962 Ай бұрын

I still think shadow sneak is better

@AubergineMiller101 Ай бұрын

It needs to be bigger

@trainerghost9294 Ай бұрын

It's already big enough, if it wants to reduce damage from outside sources, it in fact needs to be smaller. But I still think it should be general damage reduction instead

@smit__prajapati Ай бұрын

Trick room still needs rework. Shadow sneak is far better.

@i_ntel Ай бұрын

it’s not good at all lmao usually i main attackers and mimikyu is the bane of my existence however since lately they’re using trick room it makes it easier for me to k.o them , so im kinda thankful

@sohamkalzunkar7903 Ай бұрын

The thing with trick room in Pokemon VGC is that the slower Pokemon gets to attack first! That's the only thing trick room does! It changes the speed dimensions on the field and Devs try to implement something very similar to the vgc in unite!! They just can't add the defense buffs/healing/dmg reduction to trick room because that doesn't exist in the game. Maybe they can seeing the state of trick room move as it is now!!!

@josejaviermartinezquinones5706 Ай бұрын

That’s stupid cause, in VGC shadow sneak doesn’t provide any value upon knocking someone out, but in Unite it does… in VGC it’s just a low damage priority move, while it can do damage, reset cooldown, dash across walls and heal upon a KO

@sohamkalzunkar7903 Ай бұрын

@@josejaviermartinezquinones5706 Ik it's stupid but the Devs needs to hear it not me 😭

@AlligatorXD_ Ай бұрын

Guys i have a doubt... Can u even become orange team?

@Australia-g3f Ай бұрын

Yes , from enemy's pov you're always the orange team . From yours you will always be the purple team . It's not like the other moba ( like HOK ) where you're different color teams at different point of times in the game .

@AlligatorXD_ Ай бұрын

@@Australia-g3f oh i see thanks alot :)

@AlligatorXD_ Ай бұрын

@@Australia-g3f but i still don't get it how does the whole top and bottom lane thing work if both the teams are purple in their own pov?

@AlligatorXD_ Ай бұрын

@@Australia-g3f like the regis?

@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын

@@AlligatorXD_ simple they just flip YOUR perspective to make you seem purple

@suavazquez Ай бұрын

Hi Cris i love You ❤️

@monster-dk7dy Ай бұрын

@frustrated squirrel dont read that guys cmnt

@endgalaxy1321 Ай бұрын

Stop the cap, this move is bad period. Its newbie bait and needs a complete rework to even be decent compared to shadow sneak.

@CrisHeroes Ай бұрын

I said it needs a rework in the thumbnail caption?

@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын

All of you asking for a trick room rework dont see that trick room *is* good however shadow sneak is OP and needs nerfs. Chris didnt even play trick room well here as he clearly doesnt have much experience with it.

@trainerghost9294 Ай бұрын

No, its not well designed for what Mimikyu wants. What's the point of this massive square reducing damage from OUTSIDE the area, When Mimikyu, an All-Rounder, wants to be right next to enemies? Even ranged enemies can just step inside and deal their damage that way, especially auto attackers, and you really struggle against other all rounders because they also want to be in your face so its purely atp a runaway move, which doesn't work for his class

@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын

@@trainerghost9294 anti-attacker defenses so you dont get mowed down trying to kill somebody else and as an attacker do you really wanna step closer to a mimikyu? You can keep dodging your all-rounder opponents while disconbobulating them every second and being practically untouchable if you cant make it work either learn to use it properly or skill issue.