Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne HD Remaster - Boss Baal

[@bardwayer]

It's always poetic when the "survival of the fittest" character doesn't survive.

[@mortiphasm6816]

Even better, the only reason Chiaki made it this far was because she had Gozu-Tennoh's help. So much for surviving on her own.

[@ApexGale]

@@mortiphasm6816 all of the characters with reasons are hypocritical. isamu wishes for isolation but had to rely on naoki to save him. chiaki believes in survival of the fittest but she survived through her wits primarily, not her physical strength. hikawa believes in total stillness and unity, everyone equal, but he makes the decision for the future of humanity on his own and without input from anyone. he starts the conception. there is merit to all 3 reasons but on their own they are incomplete.

[@TheTrueLeafless]

@@ApexGale Survival of the fittest does not mean of the brutishly strongest, but of those most well adapted to their surroundings. Not being physically fit, but the most fitting for the task. It is a critique of the way you chose to express this.

[@ApexGale]

@@TheTrueLeafless Yes, but that is where the flaw in Chiaki's ideology lies. Her mentality is simply "be so strong nobody can hurt me", but she doesn't take into account the fact that she made it this far using her wits. Not her physical capacity.

[@zombiemassacreify]

@@ApexGale thats why when the time you meet her and she talks about society, that's telling a lot about her conscience. She talks like being strong and weak is a gift, not because it's the effort of people. Before conception, Chiaki comes from respectable family. Thats why she has a mind that she's "strong" in a thing. However while her way of thinking is to remain in strong position, she also fears that she ain't strong enough to uphold it, thus use something else - wit and negotiation with older maker of survival of fittest, Gozu Tennoh So yeah you can think Chiaki is like a cunning, spoiled princess who about take over the world but pitiful on her own so she gain power by someone else

[@LuccaRPG]

I kinda feel we went long past the 'we ain't friends anymore' zone when she slaughtered a bunch of humanoid people, but that's just me. ;) Heck, how much it was Chiaki at that point is pretty debatable.

[@kainthedragoon8081]

In the old world they were incredibly close. As in would probably start dating close

[@moss9602]

@@kainthedragoon8081 They were already dating before the conception, the CD Drama leaks it. So yes, this is like killing yoir gorlfriend

[@zapato6071]

@@moss9602 in the drama cd they weren't dating. Everyone said that they would probably started dating if the end of the world didn't happened

[@heehokuzunoha7757]

I opposed her right away. I really liked the Manikins. Their desperate desire to control their own fate in a world that completely disregards and torments them sort of resonated with me on a personal level. RIP Futomimi ):

[@ReiChiquita567]

@@heehokuzunoha7757 rip best boy :(

[@lucianaryeh3001]

Friendship ended with Baal, Lucifer is now my best friend

[@maskedgamerjoker6148]

Along with Raidou and Dante

[@twinightptawn6138]

Pixie with me she was with me since the beginning

[@The_Cooler_Will]

@@twinightptawn6138 yeah she's the true friend made along the way

[@Feulingnightmare]

I love the fact that she is no more threatening then a Random encounter and that it is only when the Hallel's come in does the fight actually become "threatening". For all of her talk of strength, she is actually pathetically weak.

[@kanna-san.]

Really makes you think.

[@SaiyanGamer95]

Yup, all Reason holders basically go against their very Reason. Chiaki wasn't strong on her own, only surviving by hiding, lost an arm to a Manikin which are considered the weakest of the weak (yeah, Sakahagi was a murderer, but still), and only gained strength because someone else agreed with her line of thinking. Her strength wasn't natural nor cultivated, but given to her. And the fact that she has to summon two allies to support her during the final battle.

[@Feulingnightmare]

@@SaiyanGamer95 Yup and i love that fact. That each have a certain thing that prevents from achieving there goals (other then you, the player.)

[@SaiyanGamer95]

@@Feulingnightmare If I may add. Isamu's Reason of Isolation: Musubi, is a world where everyone has their own personal paradise, no interactions with other people where they shape their world as they see fit with no interference from others. However, he needed Demi-Fiend and Hijiri to attain his goals. If not for them, he wouldn't have been able to summon Noah. Not only that, but he also needed to Amala Network and the spirits and emotions within to even learn about the Amala Temple and Noah. And Hikawa's Reason of Stillness, Shijima, is a world of perfect harmony with no human individuality or emotions; all working as cogs in a single machine. No strife, no war, no unhappiness. However, he gained a lot of his Magatsuhi by causing wars and battles. Heck, he started the Conception itself by getting the Gaians and Messians together and slaughtering them all. And as you encounter him more and more, he starts getting annoyed and I think even frustrated that you keep surviving, as well as being somewhat curious. He's also expressed disgust (a type of emotion) towards the previous world. And at the start of the Ahriman fight, Ahriman decides to play a game because he wants to be "amused" before falling victim to his own bloodlust and actually starts fighting you properly. All three of the Reason Holders don't follow their own Reason completely and have even gone against it in some form or fashion.

[@ApexGale]

@@SaiyanGamer95 even in battle lol. chiaki relies on her mobs, isamu is constantly draining your party members to replenish his resources (thus requiring others), and hikawa gets angry and completely changes his gimmick of restricting abilities. the demifiend completely tramples on their ideologies without remorse. he'd be top dog in yosuga, he'd be at peace in shijima, and he'd have a perfect world in musubi. but they're all ignorant views of how the world should work

[@carlos.cr.7139]

I love how Demi-fiend always looks like he's just waiting for you to shut up so he can punch you

[@shis1988]

"Our friendship ends here". This line hit, and would've hit worse had we spent more time with the cast. Nothing wrong with it by itself, I just grew to love the tragedy behind 4.

[@lowhp_comic]

That thumbnail sums up every mainline Megami Tensei game in a nutshell

[@ironrex6979]

Right on the nose

[@CereDulce37]

Purse-owner be like: *Social rank upp.* "Let's defeat the god with friendship!" Shen megummi tenseyy: *all ur friends die* "Our friendship dies here."

[@haseoxv9508]

Persona: Let's save our friend SMT: Let's kill our friend

[@ivanlagrana878]

Reject oldfriends embrace pixie, Pixie never betrays you

[@Aeon_Is_Near]

@@haseoxv9508 mfw I play neutral and end up killing twice as many people including my friends 🙂

[@totalmadness3561]

I've always loved the look of the Hallel forms. I wish Atlus did more with them, the concept is interesting too (Goetic demons granted angelhood back)

[@BuffMaister]

If you didn't know, they did put them in Dx2 recently.

[@ironrex6979]

I really like the idea too, even if the book of Enoch shoots down the concept. I’d love it if Atlus revisited the idea and expanded on it in SMTV. Since SMTV is bringing some heavy SMTIII vibes and the Hallel forms have shown up in Dx2 maybe it’s not impossible?

[@kanna-san.]

@@ironrex6979 Enoch is super controversial

[@Soncikuro]

Just a pity Hallel Ose and Flauros don't look like their artworks, with wings and all, they just changed the palette of the normal demons and gave them halos.

[@nagabe6394]

@@Soncikuro I've checked and they modelled them similar the artworks.

[@brunolinares604]

"Our friendship dies here" Me: wait, we were friends?

[@jackour8167]

Best ones too

[@WeaponXSigma]

Sadly, they were best friends.

[@Dazedgumball]

According to the drama CD, the Demifiend (Naoki) and Chiaki were really close friends. If the Conception didn't occur, they would have started dating each other.

[@WeaponXSigma]

@@Dazedgumball True and that's what makes this even sadder

[@jackour8167]

@@Dazedgumball I knew i was right when i shipped them LMAO

[@villanknight]

Look it’s girl who got her powers from a talking statue,and got sponsored by a deity and her simps This is e-girl than to a whole new level

[@Neogears1312]

Real talk it’s what makes chiaki a really dumb character. She’s supposed to believe in social Darwinism and everything that leads her to this is being weak unskilled and overall just a beggar demanding someone give her this strength. I know the point is the hypocrisy but it just comes off as dumb hearing someone go on about how there’s useless trash ruining society out of no where and literally doing nothing to back this out of left field ideology. Like every other reason has clear thought processes and is backed up by there actions in the vortex world but nah not her. Just say she believes in social Darwinism and show her being coddled into thinking this is somehow her living an only the strong survive life.

[@LampreyKisses]

on the bright side, Barong is adorable

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@Neogears1312 Chiaki, as per her words, reaches that conclusion after the Conception. She survived an apocalyptic event, which might have been a massive confidence boost in of itself. And the fact that the first major group she found was the Mantra, and was even able to actually stay with them just fine, unlike Isamu, who got beat up. Her confidence was boosted to such a point that she jumped to the conclusion that the Conception happened as a way to filter out those who were 'weak' in the sense that they didn't do anything actually meaningful for the world and were just lazing away their life

[@heehokuzunoha7757]

I mean she is one of the last two surviving human females in the vortex world but I'd argue that Takao sensei is more simp worthy.

[@WhiteFangofWar]

'Our friendship dies here' *Social Link Broken*

[@ulime]

persona without the heart

[@PebblepantsTV]

there needs to be a secret "flyswatter" sword in smtv specifically made to one shot baal and beelzebub

[@thatamericannarrator8247]

If that was some huge bonus reward for a side quest I’d love it. That’d be hilarious.

[@dmua9551]

Walter: We may as well be fighting with flyswatters as swords! SMTV guy: I gotchu homie

[@sturm2186]

@@dmua9551 its flynn

[@lucifercon4868]

we don't know how we will get skills in smtv so mabye we will get multible swords with skills atttached like in tokyo marage sessions

[@Luxstar13]

@@sturm2186 read again.

[@MarkATorres1989]

Two things come to mind: 1st - I never saw that Fly condition effect before from her... then again I went at her with a broken team of Belz, Meta, and someone else I cannot remember. 2nd - When Chiaki/Baal called forth her two allies, it made me think that deep down she really wished the other two male characters, Naoki and Isamu, stood by her side instead of against her... though that is just my groundless theory.

[@WeaponXSigma]

The 2nd one is definitely that. That hurt Naoki to fight Chiaki just as it hurt Chiaki to fight Naoki. Pretty sure the only one he truly wanted to fight was Hikawa.

[@jackour8167]

@@WeaponXSigma true. But you must realize that her reason is dumb. A world where only the powerful may live? As if this isn't what's happening right now

[@WeaponXSigma]

@@jackour8167 I agree regarding her reason being dumb. I'm just saying that this fight was a fight that deep down, neither one really wanted

[@Person-co3gr]

@@jackour8167 That’s kinda the point I guess. To live life for single reason isn’t living. That’s why the freedom ending is the best. Humans get to choose who they want to be. It’s the game’s main message.

[@jackour8167]

@@Person-co3gr yeah.

[@heroicgangster9981]

Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girl Baal

[@lowhp_comic]

She Girl Baal'd too close to the sun

[@SullenFrog]

It feels very weird to hear actual spoken dialogue in this game.

[@rigistroni]

As someone who played the remaster first, it's weird watching old footage when I'm used to it being voiced

[@3redstreeter256]

Played this game again recently, very satisfied to have gotten the finishing blow on her with Futomimi, I fused him just for this fight and it was worth it

[@xplorer2111]

Shit! now I regret not having the idea before!

[@crowiltiziodeltreno4177]

Tbh, i think it would have been cool for Baal Avatar to create a "Demi-Fiend Hallel" which has the name of the protagonist, maybe as a representation of her unexpressed feelings for the protagonist, since in an old CD, if i recall, it was said that Chiaki and the protagonist were very close, close to the point of dating should the conception never happen.

[@demi-femme4821]

Honestly, if the crux of the fight is “she summons you. He has your skills and immunities. Bet you regret using Masakados as a crutch, huh?”

[@joshuaolsoncook]

(Friendship ends over cosmic horror) Akira Fudo: First time? Guts: First time?

[@brenden7245]

Other than metatron this was the third most anticipated one for me

[@triggeredlegs]

i see you on almost every nocturne remaster video dude

[@brenden7245]

@@triggeredlegs I am everywhere lol.

[@cumekira70]

metatron fight 😳😳😳😳😳

[@MettanAtem]

Someone that summons demons to heal and support them in battle? That sounds awfully familiar.

[@usernameluis305]

Perhaps they learned from the best

[@revthescatman137]

Who??

[@lavenzavantas]

@@revthescatman137 Demi-Fiend

[@brennannaquin7333]

The noise she makes when summoning the Helel is so iconic in the original for me and idk why

[@rocker52913]

I made sure I had Futomimi in my party for this fight hehe

[@demi-femme4821]

He’s honestly not bad, especially not for this fight. He’s got the same immunities as the Fiends (so, Baal can’t touch him, basically) and he gets Focus.

[@kurtmorales7644]

@@demi-femme4821 Same here, but did not build him as a Physical character he, was my debuffer , I used Shiki Ouji and Loa to make him, had him inharate debilitate, Megido, Makakaja, and Dekunda. got really lucky and had Megido mutate into Mendiola.

[@RedDrake110]

Futomimi with Hassohappa for the final hit. "Payback's a mean bitch isn't it?"

[@darkmegazero6722]

I've been anticipatingly waiting for this moment

[@crowiltiziodeltreno4177]

Theme battles: Ahriman: Protagonist, Samael, Mitra, Baphomet Noah: Protagonist, Albion, Skadi, Alciel Baal Avatar: Protagonist, Futomimi, Mot

[@ZaneBarrow]

No one: Sun Wu Kong: *Daffy Duck Noises*

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

I like that little detail, when she can't survive on her on, she calls her Simps to help her. Hehe, "Divine Will" my arse.

[@arciks11]

"Our friendship ends here." If only game did more to establish that they were actually friends. In-game proper you can barely tell.

[@ArveEriksson]

@12:40 - Bosses with Diarahan should be freaking illegal...

[@zapato6071]

Yeah I hate it when lucifer used it. At least he didn't use megidoladyne

[@bladehero8490]

hikawa's boss gimmick: i will only allow you to use certain type of attacks. if you try to use the type i banned i will insta kill whoever used that type Isamu's boss gimmick: i will constantly change my resistance making me practically invinsible to all but one element and i will also reflect phys attacks Chiaki's Boss gimmick: COME FORTH MY SIMPS!

[@robopiplup5193]

Donkey Barong is killing me.

[@DamienStarry0w0]

I’m sad you can’t have ose and flauros hallel after this fight they had such a good design now the only way you can get these two is in a gacha game and that’s if you’re incredibly lucky

[@demi-femme4821]

And IMAGINE, but…yeah.

[@edgarven1878]

I had fused demons to make Futomimi for the sole purpose of taking on Baal Avatar. I let him get the last hit too

[@sleepingforest3979]

I really love the spooky music playing lol.

[@user-tb1fu6qo4j]

Some personal thoughts: 1. In spite of the fact that Chiaki turns into Baal Avatar,it is still a bit weird that she mostly summoned angels and goetic demons to fight,rather than summoning more demons that are based on Polytheistic faiths. 2.The Reason of Chiaki is best described as “Might makes Right.” You would expect such Reason is closer to the ideals of the Force of Chaos,but she summons angels and goetic demons with angel-like traits inatead.

[@96Vladek]

Your second point also applies to Hikawa. His "his world of stillness" ideal seems Law-aligned, but most demons who join his cause are mostly considered Chaos-aligned (and Ahriman itself is considered a member of the Tyrant Race).

[@haihuynh8772]

Chiaki supports the idea of a strict hierarchy of power, which was very in line with Law. Hikawa's Reason was more anarchic in nature, which aligned with Chaos's idea of the world.

[@gamerincognito6033]

I never got the deal with her design. Especially her arm.

[@darkmegazero6722]

For cool points

[@Gaarkukan21]

My shot in the dark would be that with Baal having the quality of a weather god they gave her a jet wing arm. for the body shape I think it's a reference to a bronze figurine of a baal with a pointy head.

[@Jekunda]

She lost her arm to Shikigami

[@user-xl6eq5ox2q]

@@Jekunda Sakahagi

[@Jekunda]

@@user-xl6eq5ox2q be an English teacher then?

[@kertchu]

Barong is so cute

[@kanna-san.]

yeah he got that pug charm

[@willemdalebout3725]

Yes he is!

[@Kanzuki]

Did I just see you use Focus twice in one turn with Wu Kong?

[@_-A.]

Ok in smt Nyx becomes a normal encounter while Baal becomes a boss In persona 3 Nyx becomes a boss while in p5 Baal becomes a shadow Noice

[@Lonewulf321]

I don’t know why, but this is my favorite boss fight in this game.

[@HazelSeerBB]

1:30 Barong sounds like a rusty hinge...

[@nyx2889]

I WANTED THIS MY WHOLE LIFE

[@christopherbravo1813]

0:35- *"our friendship dies here."* me: we were never friends, Gozuh-Tennoh!

[@crimsonsnow7228]

Um what?

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@crimsonsnow7228 you know Chiakia's first transformation scene? that was Gozuh-Tennoh's spirit possessing her.

[@jackour8167]

@@crimsonsnow7228 that wasn't chiaki. That that exuse of a talking statue controlling. Chiaki loves Naoki so much she wouldn't do anything to hurt him (no I'm not joking she actually loves romantically)

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@jackour8167 In a way, yes. Chiaki definitelt regrets having to do all this, but she understands that it has to be done, in the name of Yosuga. In the Yosuga route, once you defeat Baal Avatar, Chiaki is thankful that you chose to not let your feelings get in the way like with her

[@christopherbravo1813]

@CHARIOT TYPE-27 Fangirl "girl, receive my spirit."

[@nacunacato]

"Boss"..............Uhhh, Null light/darkness instakill and this is just a hard battle.

[@MettanAtem]

And then use Debilitate and Sukukaja and it becomes an easy battle.

[@XX-sp3tt]

She's the one who believes in standing on your own two feet... but she's the only tower boss to call on allies. She abandoned her friends to escape her own hated weakness... but she's gone too far down her path to escape it. Or perhaps she really was lost completely to her social darwinism.

[@Krow621]

I some how managed to beat her (on Normal) before she could summon Ose and Flauros. Thought they perhaps removed her 2nd from the HD remaster.

[@AloisAgos]

Fun Fact: Though never stated in the English release, Chiaki is actually more than just the MC's friend, but his girlfriend. So she's not just killing your friendship, she's flat out breaking up with you! 💔

[@musicat3243]

where is it stated

[@CrimsonWolfStudios]

Just finished the Baal boss fight, managed to beat it before it even entered the next phase lol.

[@RedDrake110]

Yup... I stalled the fight out long enough to be +4/-4 for the whole team.. Demi fiend 2 shots her with the freikugel

[@peropero2208]

Funny how the only dangers in this fight aren't Chiaki herself,but only her allies

[@cherubibimon1875]

No one talks about how silly her fucking organ solo intro is

[@cuppaal]

For the boss following the idea of might makes right, out of all reason bosses she died so fast 😭

[@warthogs3098]

"By my power, your true self shall be revealed" **BLOCKED**

[@user-le5ou9zq9d]

バアルアバターが古めかしい日本語を使うことによって、「コイツはもう千晶じゃない」って思わせるんだよね。これが日本語の良い所でもあり、ややこしい所でもある。英語が使えたら海外の人にもこの事を教えられるのに。

[@jeanbryot6765]

i say the hardest boss from all 3 is that Red Commie

[@Buitronthecrazy]

Finally, time to kill the biggest hypocrite in SMT story.

[@jackour8167]

Good B*tch wishes for a world where only the powerful may live a good life. As if this isn't what's happening right now

[@VoltitanDev]

Curb stomping the new gen Pokemon rival be like.

[@demi-femme4821]

Phase 1: You’re seriously trying to intimidate me with your one press turn? Phase 2: I mean, I definitely shit my pants the first time Ose Hallel used Dragon Eye. Didn’t happen again, but at least it was kind of interesting. Phase 3: You might as well not even use Beast Eye. Save the MP, we both know you’ll waste that second turn.

[@Chris-es2pq]

In original version i think you cant block bael bane, in remaster version you can block it ? 1:48

[@GameAlicornLuna]

How does she play video games with one arm? Can she even sit in a chair with her...back thing?

[@hitoshura3527]

There is no place for gamer in chiaki world

[@josspider100]

Is this on the Switch?

[@darkmegazero6722]

Yes on the eshope

[@josspider100]

@@darkmegazero6722 Thats not what I meant. I was wondering if the og poster was playing this ON the switch

[@darkmegazero6722]

@@josspider100 then no it's PS4 there's a triangle button in the top right for auto

[@josspider100]

@@darkmegazero6722 Okay thanks

[@si-level]

1:50 is that persona reference !!

[@JaydenW.]

Nah just sum typical SMT dialogue

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@JaydenW. You missed the Persona joke

[@Auqi]

wait focus can stacked in hd remastered at 2:20 - 2:33? i just played vanilla version cuz my laptop can't handle it

[@BuffMaister]

No, not a stack, just a quick action smash double focus fail. The game doesn't say that you are in a focus state and just overlaps it. This became a later thing in the series.

[@theholy1191]

I never played this game before, but with the other games, how what the Yosuga reason was based off of were what the angels fought desperately against, so here, them fighting for such a world doesn't make any sense to me.

[@christopherbravo1813]

me neither. throughout the franchise, Lucifer has always been the one backing this ideal, and an avatar of his right hand is even this Reason's "god". then again, it may be because these are FALLEN angels, and not true angels like Metatron.

[@Slyguy846]

In SMT: Nocturne, the rule of YHVH/Kagutsuchi is through the cycle of creation, destruction and rebirth. The whole game centres on a YHVH/Kagutsuchi-approved process of creating worlds, so the angels are welcome to align themselves with whatever reason they want. Lucifer’s goal is to end the process of ‘YHVH-sponsored destruction and creation’ once and for all, and that’s what he ultimately gets you to do (at least in the context of this one vortex world) in the True Demon Ending.

[@mads_in_zero]

Lucifer also seems to approve of you picking the Freedom ending (the ending cutscene has some text that seems to be from him, praising you for walking the path of thorns like him, and warning you that YHVH is still out there), which makes sense, as it's another option that refuses to pick a Reason. The thing to understand that even though blind strength is usually a Chaos objective, Law requires equal strength to maintain the stalemate against them, and, when the time comes, destroy their enemies. (Even Neutral requires the ability to destory like this - best shown in SMT4's White Ending). So really, Strength is a property of Law, too.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@Slyguy846 kinda flies in the face of the argument of "angels not having free will", huh? still, I think the more corrupt designs of the angels in this game are meant to show that they too are fallen. though for some reason, Atlus just keeps on using them....

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@mads_in_zero you know, despite the text being from Lucifer, I feel like the words are ones that Jesus Christ would say. still, given that it probably is Luifer speaking, and YHVH has never been mentioned, then the true enemy must be the Great Will. unfortunately, the whole "strength" argument doesn't really pan out. for the most part, the angels are always portrayed as being weaker than demons, with even Heralds losing out against their demonic counterparts. also, if various dialogue is to be believed, the angels are *against* reckless pursuits of greater strength. so it still makes no sense.

[@wisnupradhanaibrahimbhagas2282]

hol up did demi-fiend use the masakados magatama here

[@MadameMimic]

I got the standard demon ending bc I'm a dumbass so this was my final boss fight and honestly? It was a damn good final boss fight. Fighting against someone with a team of demons just felt right as a finale. Took me 30 goddamn minutes though.

[@redpikmin6330]

Which magatama were you using?

[@cyberjordan1]

To sound like a Sith: You know nothing of true power! :)

[@Antasma1]

Wasn't that not the arm she lost?

[@xplorer2111]

mfw I realised Ose is vulnerable to Black Rider's Soul Division

[@viggy7393]

ligma baals

[@Kira22558]

Funny how she doesn't survived.

[@user-xl6eq5ox2q]

Murder cage death match

[@crimson1953]

Which insect do you have in you can't spell the name

[@JJR221]

Magatama

[@crimson1953]

@@JJR221 yes ty

[@airbornezombie7655]

@@crimson1953 he has masakados magatama

[@RedDrake110]

The strongest bug amongst them all, which nulls everything except almighty attacks You get it by possessing all 24 standard magatama Church man gives you sword Stab the sword at masakado's grave Bando shrine unlocked Fight the 4 devas (Fuck you, bishamonten and koumokuten) Dupe/convince masakado to give the magatama to you Congrats... You are basically invincible to all status and elements (the best way imo in gaming to do an ultimax level powerup for the protagonist)

[@ariountoro7630]

I watch this to make the boss easier but i kill her with only 2 hit lol 🤣 Freikugel + Focus is Imba 🤣

[@sharkbrook2595]

Raiden Shogun looks different.

[@K1rz__]

Electro

[@Yusei255]

Game has no degree of difficulty at all.

[@Nonaggress]

What's an example of a hard game to you, then?

[@chibs1235]

@@Nonaggress Vanilla devil survivor, Dark souls series, cup head, plenty of games out there harder than nocturne.

[@EldenRingBuildsArchive]

@@Nonaggress Super Meat Boy, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Titan Souls, Furi.

[@ulime]

@CHARIOT TYPE-27 Fangirl ign