Bugs, crashes and glitches (DooM II v1.666) Part 1

A small collection of bugs and glitches from DooM 2 (v1.666). I made videos for over NINE HOURS today, and I broke my record filesize-wise. 194,7 MByte. The best thing: My MacBook went into standby while I already uploaded 110+ MByte. This sucks ass!!
Unfortunately, DOSBOX' output is very poor in contrast, and the M4V export made it even worse, but it is still enjoyable.

[@funkyfox2041]

The "infinite sound range" bug in MAP08 was intentional: in Doom I, map 8 of any episode was the boss level, so the engine deliberately disables sound range so you can hear where the boss monster is. They however didn't disable the handler in Doom II, so that slot always has infinite sound range.

[@tomyyoung2624]

i'm yes sure what you mean? But thanks.. I guess >-

[@DoomKid]

I always thought the double door sound at 4:02 was intentional, i found it really weird when later engines fixed it. Awesome video

[@kebab_hill]

4:02

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes fixedin v1.9

[@Torturephile]

*Doom 64* had it too.

[@KamiJoJo]

The most obvious is that when you punch, the enemies can hear you, and you're just punching the air, not even a wall or something, that is strange.

[@mhfiver2441]

It's more of a limitation than a bug. Coding a different weapon handling routine just for the fist would be more work for little gain. Instead it just uses the usual "Weapon fired, Monsters awake" routine all the other weapons use. That said, some mods do make the fist (And other noiseless weapons, if available) silent so there you go.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@mhfiver2441 And so does Strife.

[@mhfiver2441]

@@DinnerForkTongue I wasn't aware of that! Strife really pushed the Doom engine to its limits. I didn't get to play it yet but I'll see if I can soon. I got my Laptop working again after cleaning it and Installing manjaro. GZDoom works like a charm and I can even hook it up to my TV and play with a controller. Nice stuff.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@mhfiver2441 Yeah, as soon as I discovered X/Y sprite billboarding I began to enjoy GZDoom for the awesome port that it is. And Strife is definitely worth playing, underrated as hell.

[@Destro65]

that is not a bug. Its part of the game

[@WaterCrane]

I wouldn't call the HOM effect a bug, just an engine design choice that saves on processing time, considering that clearing the screen is an expensive operation, and seeing that you should always see a wall, ceiling or floor, it should never appear normally. However, the fact that the HOM appears at 5:20 I would consider a map design bug rather than an algorithm problem.

[@Bloxxify1]

Would you happen to know more of the HOM effect?

[@jothain]

I just watched through all part and realized I've probably played Doom 2 way too much as kid. I recognized pretty much all "vanilla wad" bugs. Lol actually many of them I didn't think about as bugs until now seeing these from vid later on in this context :) Huge respect for Id for making so groundbreaking game, but with so little groundbreaking bugs.

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Same

[@flamingleg]

yeah i thought it was intentional too, being able to know when a door has closed automatically just by sound was useful for a few maps when i first played doom

[@dollors1]

My theory that on a level titled "Tricks and Traps" The sound 'glitch' was intentional.

[@DoomKid]

It's a leftover from Doom1, where sound behaves the same way on the 8th map. Probably an oversight since it's so harmless/hard to notice.

[@Nidair]

For those people who are wondering if the bug in Alien Vendetta's map 20 will make it unplayable: you cannot even get near the spot where the visplanes will overflow. Kim Malde did his best to give the player a sense of being outdoors despite being beneath sand (as can be seen at the start of the map) so reaching the spot in particular will not only crash the game, it will also not even look good.

[@Foebane72]

I think a simple way to trigger the visplanes problem is simply to make a chessboard-like pattern on the floor and ceiling. Make the whole place chequered like that and you'll soon have an unusable map. But that Alien mod map looked interesting.

[@user-sr6pi5lp3q]

Hall of mirrors is present even in half-life

[@mhfiver2441]

The HOM effect can be visible in many games (Any game that doesn't "erase" the frame buffer before redrawing the scene (Most probably for performance reasons.) especially when going out of bounds. It's strangely hypnotizing watching the textures shimmer around, (Which only happens on double/triple buffered engines, btw.) but it can be potentially dangerous if you're epileptic. Funny enough, the HOM effect is fixed on most modern source ports. (At least on GZDoom, which is OpenGL accelerated.)

[@KyleHulton]

HoM effect appears in a lot of IDtech based games, even in Quake 1-4, Doom 3, call of duty etc...

[@racer927]

It's especially crazy if you use bloom or high dynamic range effects.

[@Architector_4]

It appears in Source engine games too. Even in Portal 2.

[@ikagura]

Architector #4 I love HOMs

[@mistylear19]

I just have to say... Alien Vendetta is hard, but I think it has some well-designed, Aesthetically pleasing maps... Like the pyramid level you showed here. That, by far, it the level I played most and one of my favourites in the WAD. xD

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

0:44 happens In Final Doom TNT and Plutonia experiment since those are technically Doom II

[@watchmakerful]

Map 8 sound bug is not a bug, it was made intentionally top hear the boss at any point on the map.

[@Szederp]

Alien Vendetta = Descent music?

[@VinTheFox]

The sky map bug was fixed in some releases of Final Doom.

[@doramilitiakatiemelody1875]

Nope it wasn't it still happens in TNT Evolution and Plutonia Experiment with Doom 2 v1.9

[@VinTheFox]

@@doramilitiakatiemelody1875 Yes but in the id Anthology release the bug was fixed.

[@doramilitiakatiemelody1875]

@@VinTheFox ok

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

@@VinTheFox yeah

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

But it wasn’t fixed in the original dos Releases

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

I remember that double close sound effect. I had one of the "earlier" versions of Doom II, one that had the bars still in front of the shotgunner on Underhalls

[@CkdiwsmGaming]

for some reason, I set my output format to 8-bit on OPL SYNTH EMULATION and restarted and it makes the game really loud for some reason, not sure if this is both Dos or windows 7 and other operating systems that doom can handle. The version I was using was Zdoom 2.3.1 r1480

[@XenoSpyro]

@NoMac90 I've always called it "instruments" which leading to being corrected to call it "sound fonts". So last question cuz im getting out of hand. Any idea what synth/font/instruments being used on the XBLA version of Duke3d and Doom?

[@DeimosComaBlack]

The 'sky' bug used to drive me mental back in the days when I'd rush through as much of the game as possible before going to school. I'd notice something about MAP12 didn't look right, but didn't realise what it was for months. So obvious yet so subtle at the same time, as it doesn't alter the gameplay.

[@tomypower4898]

Yes worries. Yes sure

[@medexamtoolsdotcom]

I honestly never even paid attention to the skies. Does it load the right sky for the level if you use the load game function instead of playing up to that level? If so, then you might suddenly notice the sky is different on loading a game.

[@Coolerdbz69]

I've had a glitch in the first episode of Ultimate Doom, the phobos sky was just black...... how boring lol

[@pixellogic8993]

What was the music used?

[@TheBillzar820]

what does the cause "algorithm" mean?

[@XenoSpyro]

@NoMac90 since you know alot more about all this, do Doom2 and Duke3D use the same midi sound fonts under Sound Blaster?

[@XenoSpyro]

Possible to do on ZDoom or was all this cleaned up?

[@doom3hell]

wat's the music name at 4:17....

[@doomexpert]

The hom effect causes that the system tells that there is no texture is on that place

[@PerfectAgent64]

I have to say, when you shoot the SSG at the HOM corner, it looks really cool, like there's smoke coming out of the barrels. :D

[@XenoSpyro]

@NoMac90 One of the things I want to do is play the Through the fire and flames MIDI through the SoundBlaster format on Duke3D. But the filesize is too big. Anything over 100kb wont play on Duke.

[@rokim2194]

The not fixed bugs in the final version if doom are fixed in the source ports?

[@Zedek]

Yes, I think so. One of the reasons of sourceports was to eliminate bugs or limits that were in the original code of the game. As soon as the big junk of the sourcecode has been made public in 1997 (as far as I remember), there was no need to create ports for other platforms since Win95/98 had an underlying DOS.

[@gforce7237]

Nostalgia Hits Hard

[@supertoasteroftoast]

This music makes it so interesting.... I'm watching this for the 17th time because of that music man. 5/5 stars

[@littleampton2]

The colors are messed up in vanilla too, and I can't reproduce noclipping. :

[@andy62716]

the correct title of the background music with which you are enquiring, is named "ROBOTER" and it is by tax 5. love is a danger doesnt return any results when i search for it :)

[@user-qk7tk8gj1t]

Please, give me music! I can't find [ Tax-5 - Welcome The Robots ] !!!

[@bakuDD]

cool bugs do you remember a bug where if you warped to a different level from the automap, the game would crash? it might be from a different doom version though

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Yes

[@evandamon339]

Did it's like that every single bullet to sky and door close it's like that on the Xbox arcade version of doom II your not pointing out glitches your just pointing out what is on the game that is already programmed

[@Sviolinist]

Oh I definitely gave this a thumbs up. These weren't easy to find. I just meant to say the part about how really superb the programming is - if you've ever read the source code.

[@demollyon]

thank you for this!

[@warrie_pl]

Where can I ask for "Love is a Danger"? PM or comments?

[@DoomHydra]

Oh my god i REMEMBER these

[@jwaffe]

I liked the video, good content as always

[@blarno]

No worries. Not sure if it occurs in all versions of the game, as I was watching a different video not long after yours and there were bullet puffs on raised sectors. Might have been something to do with a source port, maybe?

[@danimaster131]

When I am playing I can't warp to map08 because the dosbox is bullshit. So when I press 0 the dosbox won't do anything for example: I'm tiping idmus00 and the game crashes and I'm tiping idclev08 the dosbox won't do anything. Another example when I played Prehistorik 2 I couldn't type password sometimes because the code contains 0 WHY?

[@Zedek]

Unnamed Player What kind of keyboard do you use? Maybe there is a problem with the layout. DOSBOX mounts the US QWERTY keyboard layout. As German, I have to press "Z" in order to get "Y". For example: "Do you want to quit the game? Y/N" I need to hit "Z". Not to speak of backslash (\) which is on the same button like "ß", which does not exist at all on the QWERTY and gives me random BS. Try to load a different keyboard setting and if that helps, add it to the autoexec.bat

[@danimaster131]

***** Thanks! I'm using hungary keyboard. I tried everything and I pressed the "ö" button and there is no more problem. Now i can write 0 in this game. When I was 8 years old I couldn't quit from dos games because I pushed "y" and the game didn't quit. But my teacher said that : "Push Z instead of Y"

[@KartKing4ever]

What did you use to play this on. (rom/old 90s comp?)

[@KazilTheDarkeye]

6:42, Descent music.

[@user-sr6pi5lp3q]

Monster targets imho are not saved in quake too

[@basementhermit1492]

for vanilla doom, freedoom phase 2 is a vos plane overflow nightmare

[@Duvmasta]

Can you do heretic glitches next please?

[@supertoasteroftoast]

Tittlekopf? Man, that is really fun to say. Anyway, Nice video, even If youtube took the stars system out.

[@TheHalo3Gaurdians]

If you change the audio settings you can have way better music quality (16bit rather than 8bit)

[@blarno]

I haven't read all the comments, but the bullet puffs on external walls is only on walls that aren't 'solid'. The puffs don't appear on walls that are actually raised sectors, such as the part where you were firing at the chaingunners up on the wall. Don't know why though!

[@jawtramp]

Great video. Would like a link to that music you used though. Sounds cool.

[@emostoqnov9485]

Nice music, what's the name of the song?

[@crogeek]

One awesome video! I give you 5+

[@andy62716]

I do apologise. I didnt know tittle was tax 5. lml

[@FairPlay137]

I had a "visplane overflow" and "no more visplanes" happen to me while playing FreeDoom 0.9 (Phase 1). I guess it wasn't designed for vanilla?

[@basementhermit1492]

no the freedoom map sets were designed for prboom +

[@FairPlay137]

Derpmon21 I know. I was just describing the issues it had with vanilla Doom.

[@npc_blob1609]

Yeah, on DoomWorld the Freedoom levels are being redesigned for Vanilla.

[@basementhermit1492]

DanielWS424 you should the visplane overflows in phase 2, almost every map has one (and some can't even be started)

[@XenoSpyro]

@breadrack Sorry but I dont know anything about the creators of the songs, other than Lee Jackson made a few for Duke3d as well as a remake of grabbag.

[@Amberlynn_Reid]

Please sir come back to KZbin

[@XenoSpyro]

@NoMac90 that just sounds too complicated, nevermind

[@FairPlay137]

D_introa - DooM 1 intro jingle

[@Sviolinist]

These are some piss poor glitches - but it shows how well the game was programmed.

[@mp18maschinepistole46]

Why it is so bright?

[@tomypower4898]

Geometry Dash Pixel Snowy Yes Mac 10 borders

[@TheChipszZ]

good video !! :D

[@DeimosComaBlack]

I'd probably have taken the day off if I saw that and couldn't work out the problem. I can do a video for that though, no problem.

[@Xsuprio]

This is an old video, but.... When the #9 track of the PSX OST of Doom (kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3eWi5KnhMh4h68) is sped up, it sounds like it says "1081". When Googling "Doom 1081", it comes up with a brief description of the chainsaw not making the right sound when brought up. (tracker.skyjake.fi/issues/1081) Kind of a strange question, but is that what the music is referring to?

[@Zedek]

***** There are no "old videos" :) I am not sure if the PSX soundtrack contains any real message.

[@Xsuprio]

***** Most people seem to think the phrase is "tell me why". Maybe I'll make a video myself to see if anyone knows for sure. Probably nothing short of a dev would know.

[@Zedek]

***** This reminds me of the TV show TAPS where they were thinking to hear stuff which is not there, but if there is really a message, I will come back and give all the Kudos you deserve!

[@Xsuprio]

***** Heh. I deserve no more Kudos than the average person with Google at their disposal. ^-^

[@BigFreakingCacodemon]

Really interesting video! I have a new revenant tactic now! >:D

[@sgtmajorkiwi]

target amnesia is also present with everyone's favorite bastard, the assvile.

[@pcorf]

A good demonstration of all those little crashes that used to annoy us before Boom came out. Esp the Visplane Overflow.

[@kveller555]

4:53 LOL I didn't know that either

[@kyleleeds8526]

sky bug fixed on skulltag 0.98d

[@djhowa]

6:00 thats not a bug, its autoaim that is shooting targets above you in front of you, also check my channel for a serious bug on the psx version of doom.

[@dantedeloden]

Smoke doesnt appear outside?? Im pretty sure when shooting the wall u were shooting. It was aiming up to hit monsters on a higher floor...

[@danilertrooperimput1538]

LegacyDoom Fast Door closing 2 sound is Bug Zdoom Is fast door 1 closing sound! 4:14 Looking 2 closing Sound

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes t really a wad but a set of resources and assets used from the Jaguar...9h Yes fixed in v1.9

[@DoomMate2]

5:23 it's not in to v1.666 it's on the finished game too

[@Architector_4]

At 4:45 in the banner below it mentions "not fixed in 1.9". Same message is mentioned for a couple of other bugs too.

[@emostoqnov9485]

in the beginning

[@tomypower4898]

Yes fix in v1.9

[@supertoasteroftoast]

OH WAIT THERE ARE NO STARS GUESS I HAVE TO LIKE THIS THEN OH WELL

[@littleampton2]

I found a Chocolate Doom bug! If you run nuts.wad with it, the immortality colors are messed up and you can noclip!! (W00T!)

[@sgtmajorkiwi]

I think that's the all ghosts effect, it rarely happens in vanilla gameplay, but can be replicated wit custom maps, if you know how.

[@emostoqnov9485]

10x!

[@doomguy124fr]

The fast door sound is normal because when i play doom it dose that

[@halflife1998able]

version 1,........666

[@martinvarela206]

The "bug" in minute 6:03 it's because is shoting up... isn't a bug... -.-

[@Zedek]

+Martin Varela I got these bugs from the Wikipedia page and they are verified. Also, there is AFAIK no limit of bullet "puffs" or at least not when a Chaingunner and the player fire at the same time.

[@martinvarela206]

***** not allways wikipedia is right... sometimes is edited by trolls and morons...

[@Zedek]

Martin Varela I highly think they are right. At least they can provide technical background. You can't (so far). So I of course I believe them more. If you enlighten me with facts I will change my view on this matter. But so long... nope.

[@Lattamonsteri]

i was gonna point out the same thing since there definitely is a heavy weapons dude shooting you off-screen. Your puffs most likely hit it. that being said I still believe there's a legit bug like that :D

[@martinvarela206]

***** that mean you nerver play Doom...

[@Schwarze999]

sombeody used iddclip

[@XCenturionX]

Deal with it

[@bakuDD]

it was probably on the mac version

[@supertoasteroftoast]

Why'd you respond to him with a different comment? I know you're desperate for attention. Besides, who in the right mind uses the mouse in DOS DOOM? Unless it's for testing purposes, if you actually PLAYED REGULARLY with a mouse in Vanilla Doom, shame on you.

[@sgtmajorkiwi]

the demos recorded by romero uses turning so smooth and quick it's not possible to do with keyboard, he also uses mouse for death match, the manual says that you would have a better time using mouse and keyboard. so, next time do your research. wanna prove me wrong? do your worst, internet.

[@0mitas]

noclip

[@TheBillzar820]

@NoMac90 OH, i get it thanks :)