Buhurt Worldcup 2023 - 5v5s - Part 1

5v5s from Buhurt Worldcup (countries other than US)
My links:
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Timestamps:
00:00 F1
03:15 F2
06:40 F3
08:26 F4
09:30 F5
10:22 F6
11:22 F7
12:50 F8
14:06 F9
15:49 F10
18:50 F11
20:10 F12
20:59 F13
22:11 F14
23:09 F15
24:50 F16
25:53 F17
27:11 F18
29:12 F19

[@eSportsAndy]

As an ex football player/jui jitsu fan, stuff like this is the coolest thing ever. The one place where full speed ramming is the norm

[@4thbranch834]

Head butts and kicks to the balls are literally the most polite thing you can do in this sport. I love it!

[@maxwellsage7422]

Kicks to the balls aren't allowed, but they certainly happen. Headbutts are totally fair game tho!

[@morpho5539]

We need medieval drums and horns at these events

[@damionkeeling3103]

Mostly horns and probably a few bagpipes too.

[@C_erlul]

traş medival corses

[@C_erlul]

yess medival corses

[@EL_BEANE_GUY]

26:43 that neck shot was absolutely brutal

[@timothyhines6220]

I was really worried about the fighter. It looked like a hit to the base of the spine, but ppl watching from the other direction said it hit the side of the head

[@ResolvezDubstep]

Took them forever to call a medic :')

[@AnIdiotOnline]

blimey

[@siroanderson8068]

FOR AAAGGGGAAATHAAAAAA!! killed me😂

[@hyperbolicandivote]

As an aged school teacher I long for my youth. This is a cool outlet,

[@wormsperm6576]

I don't think I've ever wanted to do something more than this.

[@timothyhines6220]

Our team is always looking for new fighters if you live in Iowa

[@cogboyofmars1575]

​@@timothyhines6220 Northern Missourian here, whereabouts in iowa?

[@timothyhines6220]

We have dojo practice open to the public in Des Moines and armor practice in Indianola

[@wormsperm6576]

@@timothyhines6220 in Raleigh NC not so close but man I'm gonna look into this. Maybe we will meet someday.

[@timothyhines6220]

The closest team I can think of is the Palmetto Knights in SC. They host the biggest US buhurt event every year allevents.in/central/carolina-carnage-2024-north-american-medieval-combat-conference-championships/200024306114112

[@RainbowSushiii]

that camera used here is insane damn looks so good

[@Moose6340]

The dudes with the big two-handed Dane axes...gawd. Those hits are BRUTAL.

[@giloises]

Aah, love me some Buhurt Worldcup. First time I see this. I thought I read the title wrong and that it was the Butthurt Worldcup... This is fantastic. It's probably a lot more realistic representation of how Medieval battles really went. Not like in the movies.

[@ceskakorouhev]

Awsome footage! Thank you!!!

[@drumcovers3501]

11:10 bro was having none of it

[@toilethopper]

Thanks for the amazing videos! I use this as film for my team!

[@heilmodrhinnheimski]

This will never not look goofy to me. All respect to the people who do this sport, I'm sure they could fold me in half armour or no, but watching these I can't help but laugh some times.

[@simonhartinger1124]

I can really recommend watching this with some Hans Zimmer interstellar theme in the background and sound of original video turned off. So calming :D

[@Morbidoner]

Everyone saying this is a more realistic representation of a medieval battle than the bloodbathes we see in movies are kidding themselves lol in a real medieval battle there were short swords, spears and daggers for piercing through armour gaps, not to mention archers. Nobody is taking into account either that the average soldier wasnt able to afford to kit themselves head to toe in plate, they would maybe have a thick leather gambezone at best. Not trying to take away from this sport by any means, im actually super interested in it and the guys who actually get in there and fight are brave as fuck. Im just making a point to all of the people that are commenting and comparing this to a real battle. This is way closer to what a mediveal tournament would have looked like, one that would have been thrown as entertainment, which is literally what Buhurt is.

[@screamsofsuicide6669]

That looks amazing with the encampment and forest in the background. If we ignore the cameramen my mind is whisked away to imagine an army waiting for orders to move and during this wait the nobles decided to break out their tourney equipment and host tournament battles to break boredom and boost moral.

[@Aeternuss]

I love this

[@turkerozturk6889]

thanks

[@Branchtail]

Great quality for whatever camera you were using

[@njp4340]

11:35 one team just had to go and summon a demon mid tournament.

[@iamfrickincool]

Some genuine sportsmen out there

[@francisnicolas1819]

I'd love to see a video of the combatants explaining and talking about their coat of arms.

[@natalijalaonar8187]

No holding back on swings here, not like some other vids I seen. Gj to all fighters!

[@patp3725]

I don't know the rules (just watching 'cause it looks really cool) but those strikes to the unarmoured back of the leg look like they could lead to some pretty bad injuries, are those allowed? The first few fights have quite a few, but I don't think I saw many (if any) later on

[@timothyhines6220]

They are not allowed to strike the back of the knee. Strikes aimed there are very dangerous. The knight marshal can issue them a yellow card if it's spotted. Usually I see a marshal yell at them first if strikes are too close. They also cannot strike the groin, feet, or base of the skull. Thrusting attacks are not allowed either

[@CalledTurnAGundam]

SMASHY SMASHY TIME

[@ronishah8941]

Brutal fighting Stop!!it is o🎉ver..

[@hendrikwindau8505]

a top down perspective would be awesome

[@timothyhines6220]

I believe one of the videographers recorded the whole event from the top of a steep hill. I don't think they allow drones in the area, but it is probably the closest we can get. I haven't seen them post any of their footage yet

[@kimmosaarinen2780]

@@timothyhines6220 I remember one video of dude throwing drone down with a spear :D That being said, watched your videos and other buhurt/medieval combat videos, I GOTTA check out my local buhurt club and maybe get into this, seems awesome sport.

[@phantomstriker7996]

What are all the rules regarding this sport. This looks REALLY interesting and fun. Edit: Ok found a comment explaining the rules

[@vladvorski7901]

Montjoie St Denis ! Que trépasse si je faiblis.

[@someoneunknown9947]

no. 20 took a great beating

[@GlomusIridescens]

Is the use of a polearm to lever opponents illegal? Leading, tripping, or pivoting takedown maneuvers using one end of the weapon run aground and the opponent as the fulcrum?

[@timothyhines6220]

I can't recall offhand. I think grounding the weapon could be an issue. They were using this ruleset: hmbia.info/rules-and-regulations/

[@GlomusIridescens]

Thanks for the info! I'm excited to see if there's anything local to my area as well. This sport seems like something I could really get into.

[@timothyhines6220]

I recommend it. I've played sports growing up, but they never really kept my interest. I've become obsessed with buhurt for 4 yrs now. I know a lot of guys on my team have gone from normal to hardcore athlete after joining. It's a positive life change and you meet great ppl

[@pythonbrothersandfamily]

Insane 😂😂😂 OMG

[@JotBeAusD]

1:36 hit to back of the knee 2:03 hit to the groin 2:05 hit to the groin 2:32 grabing opponents weapon 3:10 hit to the neck 26:51 hit to the neck and you wonder why everybody hates the french -_- .. and whats going on with marshals?

[@mrssirens]

Ooof I did mauy thai, I can only imagine how much those repeated thigh shots hurt, it would be so hard not to go down to a numb leg.

[@209_zerocool]

I really wish we had this where I live. Our local renaissance fairs always claim to have this kind of stuff but never do. After paying an over priced entry fee there’s only 2 or 3 people that show up to “fight” a very obvious choreographed show.

[@timothyhines6220]

I've seen that before too Reminds me of buhurt team that used to do demonstrations at a large renaissance faire for a couple years. The faire didn't support the team, so they stopped going, but the faire kept using images of them in their advertising It's hard to tell if the faire has buhurt, the combat sport, or an entertainment group. I'd say you can check out the teams on FB to see what events they attend If you live around Iowa then my team, the New Order, does demonstrations at Sleepy Hollow. None of it is choreographed and we do two to three demos a day (unless there's a lot of injuries or dangerous weather). That's in May and August. In June the Colorado Wardens have an event in Loveland, CO (I'm planning to go if I can get off from work)

[@jakeslides9387]

I highly doubt this is similar to true medieval combat like people are saying. Being at some festival drinking with your friends before you play sword fight with armor and padding underneath I’d like to believe is nothing like battling to the death to protect your land and property and family from foreign invaders. You’d have to be pretty separated from any conflict in your life to believe that.

[@tsafa]

What are the rules with regards to hitting the unarmed area behind the leg? That would be devastating.

[@timothyhines6220]

It's an illegal strike along with thrusting attacks and strikes to the base of the skull

[@DavidWilliams-mz3hs]

@@timothyhines6220can you still kick the back? Or any type of hit is illegal?

[@timothyhines6220]

Any hit behind the knee is illegal including kicks. You can kick them above or below the back of the knee

[@tsafa]

@@timothyhines6220 thank you

[@romanor1er]

👍🏻

[@adventurersofthegoob330]

Does anyone know what team is shown at 27:10 in the background? They’re standing next to the American team and they look to be wearing the Texas flag. I’m not very good with countries flags but I can’t find any other country that it could be but I’m not sure why there would be a Texas team and and American team.

[@timothyhines6220]

Some countries, like US and France, had multiple teams competing. The blue, yellow, and black tabard is Dominus, the winning team of the 5v5s. The solid red, white, and blue tabard would be the Dallas Warlords. The Warpigs, another US team, were also fighting and they had black and teal colored tabards during the 5v5s

[@martinjeottam6754]

27:53 man this was close to some dangerous injury

[@psykrobone9479]

Man I'd love to make it out to Europe to play!

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

It is also in america

[@jaimietewes9413]

@@definitlynotbenlente7671pretty sure the first teams were Australia vs USA

[@vipergg7870]

I thought the two founders of buhurt were ukraine and russia. Shame they are both busy rn.

[@timmyjimmy7413]

If the armor was affordable, I would 100% do this sport.

[@njp4340]

The 3 guys just inactive and waiting show that either both teams were betting on their boy to win the 1v1 at the side or that one team was clueless and overly passive while the other team sent their chad in to make it a 4v5. Considering the calibre of this comp i'm picking it was the first option.

[@philipstevenson5166]

really they should hold these contests in a pub car park

[@sethchyna]

are they allowed to trip with the pole weapons? that seems like it would be more useful

[@timothyhines6220]

I've never asked before. I think there's a danger of striking the feet or the back of knees (or applying pressure to the back of the knees). If the weapon gets tangled in their feet it could cause injury. I have seen fighters strike the legs to offbalance opponents and use the haft behind the calf or thigh to pull up. It's a good question, but I don't use a polearm, so I haven't really thought about it before

[@WNTN-cn6dn]

Hey so, im a little new to this stuff, but I really like watching it, so if anyone wouldn't mind explaining the sport a little bit? Like.. what counts as a knockout? How does someone win?

[@timothyhines6220]

In melees you must make the opponent touch the ground with something other than their two feet (hand, knee, head, etc). If their armor breaks in a way that is dangerous they must sit. If they do an illegal strike (base of the neck or behind the elbow or a thrust) then they must sit. Weapons can break armor, bones, and cause severe pain. Most of the time people grapple, tackle, or trip their opponents to get them down, but you cannot fight unless you have a weapon. In a 5v5 they will end the fight early if only 1 fighter is left and the other team has 3 or more fighters

[@WNTN-cn6dn]

@@timothyhines6220 thank you so much, that explains alot! Thank you for explaining

[@roadrunnerairsoft4933]

This is so cool. Does anyone know if they do it in the UK?

[@timothyhines6220]

Yep, the White Company is one of the best teams in the world

[@roadrunnerairsoft4933]

Ah cool. I must look into this further. I play a lot of airsoft and love martial arts so this will suit me. The kit looks expensive. Thank you for the reply.

[@dbeerewout]

Bro when I read the title too fast I really red Butthurt Worldcup, I was like Whaaaaat?!

[@timothyhines6220]

Haha, I wondered why it got so many views

[@user-zd9ec5qu2z]

well done go hard go home lol xxxxx hapy days

[@malhavok2995]

is the purpose the knock the other guy down ? Or disarm them ?

[@timothyhines6220]

To knock them down. If you disarm your opponent then they can run to their team's rail and obtain a new weapon (they are not allowed to attack until they have a weapon again). Technically they don't need to be fully knocked down, they just need to form three points of contact with the ground (basically if anything other than your feet touch the ground then you're down)

[@willambthommo]

Historical accuracy is seeing the American flag dude make a cameo

[@philipmorgan5500]

Come on! Hit him with your purse!

[@a_cute_frog]

could you bring a larger heater shield?

[@timothyhines6220]

There are regulations on equipment. It has to be historically accurate and safe. The guidelines may differ depending on the ruleset, so the buhurt international or IMCF sites would indicate what the specific shield policy is

[@hughmungus7425]

Can someone explain the strategy/reason behind not engaging at 0:23

[@Kalashnigod]

Its really hard to breath with helmets on, basically this figths can take from 5 to 30min, so every amount of energy u can save its worth a lot

[@grzesiufloryda4843]

hugs are allowed but kisses aren't ;

[@Lil_totoro]

Are there any groups in California?

[@timothyhines6220]

Yes, though most of the events I go to are in the eastern region. I'm not as familiar with them as others, but this is the map of buhurt teams in America armoredcombatsports.com/knight-finder/

[@cjcjcj007]

Are you allowed to push or bump your opponent over?

[@timothyhines6220]

Yes, you cannot strike the back of the neck, behind the knees, or do thrusting attacks, but most other attacks are fine. No grabbing the blade of a weapon, but the haft is alright. The rules differ based on the organization. There's HMB and IMCF

[@cjcjcj007]

@@timothyhines6220 Interesting, I don't understand why there is not more blindside bumping to knock the opponents over. Is it because of the weight/movement speed?

[@timothyhines6220]

I think it has a lot to do with experience. I see it happen to newer fighters more

[@RandomStuff404s]

​@@timothyhines6220bro the first match the blue dude was hitting behind the knee and looked painful lol

[@timothyhines6220]

The fighter with # 1 on their belt at 1:37? It does look like their strikes were aimed there. I can't tell where they landed from this angle, but it looks dangerous

[@tosfriendly]

what the point of the weapons at this point? Feels like they do nothing at all.

[@timothyhines6220]

They cause pain and break bones. They are covered in armor, so you can't see the deep purple bruises. Also I edit out the injuries where ppl are screaming in pain

[@muuka.t9783]

@@timothyhines6220 That wouldve been content. shame

[@muuka.t9783]

@@timothyhines6220 Can u not edit them out? If its cuz of youtube I'll understand.

[@timothyhines6220]

Younger ppl in my family watch the vids, so I wouldn't want them to see broken bones or ppl yelling in pain. I'm also worried about KZbin based on their guidelines. I know one organizer said they don't want injuries posted online for their events

[@adaywithsmator]

Under the army these weapons can leave bad wounds. In a medieval battlefield they'd have been better weighted weapons and they would have been aiming for caps in the armor. Even in plate armor, a good hit can break your ribs and kill you from blunt trauma, or pierce through a gap near your joints and impale you. They just don't really do that in these competitions for obvious reasons.

[@ramses4321]

I wonder what are the rules and whether some of them have to go to hospital in the end.

[@timothyhines6220]

We had a lot of injuries during this event. The wet sand would catch fighter's feet (which made everything a little more risky). I edited out the footage where they stopped the fights and had the medics come in with a four wheeler to carry people off the field. If you see a clip that suddenly ends before the fight is over then it was likely due to an injury The rules are: no thrusting attacks, no strikes behind the knee or the base of the skull, and you are down if your head, hands, butt, knee, etc touch the ground (anything other than your two feet). There are more rules, but those are the basic ones. They will stop a fight if it's 3 vs 1 (at that point it's very unlikely the other team will win and getting beat on by three people at once can lead to injuries)

[@Sutti4844]

If I found a group in Texas id send it and buy full armor lol

[@timothyhines6220]

I know there are the Dallas Warlords and the San Jacinto Knights of Houston

[@kings_bane1221]

That black team in f3 was NOT playing

[@jonchase7393]

What league is this?

[@timothyhines6220]

www.buhurtinternational.com/post/world-cup-results-buhurt

[@TheAndroidftw]

30:22 looks like a bad knee hyperextension.

[@hayden.8057]

Yeouch that hurt to watch

[@Kult365]

Is NZ at 12min?

[@knightdriven4202]

If this is authentic, how fucking long did knights take to kill eachother??

[@ich4839]

есть куда расти

[@Neverdyingpride]

soo whats the rule get the other person on the floor?

[@timothyhines6220]

If any part of the fighter's body touches the ground other than their feet they are considered down. Last team standing wins

[@FLORIDASURFER_]

When the larping kid comes across this

[@trentwhite2640]

Is the green team the krakens from hmb

[@timothyhines6220]

I believe so, the Australian team Kraken has the green tabard with black/gold

[@Gilbert_gang.]

Is head butting legal in buhart

[@timothyhines6220]

Yes, but it's mostly ineffective. The helmets have the thickest armor

[@Gilbert_gang.]

@@timothyhines6220 I feel like I would do it just for fun tbh

[@C_erlul]

netle axe

[@Moose6340]

So I'm trying to figure out the rules here...if their knee hits the ground, they're out of the fight? Seems like it just makes more sense to overbear them to the ground than it does to actually swing at them. Still, this looks even crazier and more painful than M-1. These guys have got to be bruised ALL OVER by the end of the day. Yeow.

[@timothyhines6220]

Whenever a fighter makes 3 points of contact with the ground they're out. Their feet count as two points of contact, so any other body part touching the ground creates a third. Grappling is generally more effective than striking, but weapons are very useful. The can break armor, which puts the fighter out. They also break bones occasionally. They definitely leave bruises. Fighters on my team are always showing off their best bruises

[@Moose6340]

@@timothyhines6220 Thank you! It makes more sense now. Is there a rationale as to who uses what weapon (does a 5-man team have assigned "positions" that get sword/shield, two-handed axe, etc.) or is it just personal preference?

[@timothyhines6220]

It depends on the event and the team. At a tournament the captain might say, "John, get in there and hold fighter #7, he's too dangerous to run wild". John would pick up a buckler and a one handed weapon because they are good for grappling and defending while he holds someone against the rail. If he was told we need more striking power he might pick up a polearm instead. If he was told to run around and catch opponents offguard then he might use a two handed axe. There are positions, but the names of those positions and their specific responsibilities may differ from team to team. If it's a casual event, like a demonstration, then you can typically use whatever. If it's a competitive event then you should use the best weapon for your team's strategy

[@Morbak546]

why did they stop F4?

[@timothyhines6220]

I believe it was due to an injury that happened out of frame. They don't want the fighters to fall on someone that is severely injured. If it is a serious injury then they want the medics in there immediately without moving the fighter. We had a lot of injuries that day

[@erickgringo]

hi im 12 and i want to do sometin like this but i dont know how and where please help 😢

[@timothyhines6220]

You won't be able to fight until you're 18, but you can still prepare. My friend's daughter used to train with us when she was 12. I think you would need your parent's permission because this is a dangerous sport. Don't try any of this without adult supervision since serious accidents happen even during training. My best advice is to ask the nearest team how you can be involved. Some teams use soft gear (foam weapons and armor) to practice, so maybe they have some younger fighters to spar with www.startfighting.info/

[@erickgringo]

@@timothyhines6220 dang it

[@franknstein546]

So ..basically they could skip the weapons because they neither are sharp, nore are they actually allowed to use them as intended. And as it is, for all intent and purpose, grappling anyway, they could skip the armor too. Ofc, it wouldn't look like some medieval battle in that case but hey .. it ain't one anyway.

[@dixonhill1108]

Seriously it's like a really dull version of Judo at this point. You can tell the sport's evolving, it's gonna get more derivative before it gets better.

[@JLite.]

So what I'm hearing is that you didn't watch the video there are multiple people that went down after taking a few big hits

[@franknstein546]

@@JLite. I don't need to watch the video. I've seen that stuff live more times than a would care. My point still stands: fun and physically demanding as this might be, it has as much to do with Buhurt as modern day boxing has with a knife fight.

[@Coffeeanddonuts]

I'm waiting for the Mandalorian to jump out with a Dark Saber.....lol

[@tbuxt3992]

Good work France!

[@SuperSuperdude88]

i dont get it though? they just endlessly hit eachother?

[@timothyhines6220]

They try to get the other person to make 3 points of contact with the ground (a part of the body other than their two feet). Striking is very painful and can leave nasty bruises or break bones. If they break their armor then the person has to sit due to armor malfunction (without armor the strikes can be deadly). Fighters tend to have a high pain threshold, so it can take a lot of strikes

[@whyteisrealyte]

No head shots must be a thing

[@timothyhines6220]

The head is typically the best protected place on the body due to the thick helmet. Usually striking there doesn't deal much damage, so ppl aim at a more vulnerable spot. There's also the risk of hitting the back of the head by accident, which is considered an illegal strike

[@sirhabanero647]

I just dont understand... Actual knights wouldn't be striking each other square in the armour... So what does this teach us? A new kind of combat but in ancient armour? What's the point? Is it fun? They don't look like theyre having much fun

[@timothyhines6220]

I was told this sport is based off of historic events where knights would compete. I think one document said they used whale bones instead of blunted weapons. It's fun! Lots of adrenaline and hitting things

[@SuperSuperdude88]

bahahaha theyre all just clinched together stuck, and eventually 1 guy falls??

[@BartimaeusCarbulo]

Who's in green? Actually, the only team I can identify is the French.and I think red is UK.

[@Sb_Antimony]

Australia I think, got the same colours as Team Kraken from Melbourne.

[@timothyhines6220]

Green and yellow should be Australia. I'm mostly colorblind, so I have trouble. I try to identify them through the tabard designs, but that can be tricky too

[@Sb_Antimony]

@@timothyhines6220 Yeah nah I understand. In any case they have yellow trim around the sleeves and helmets. They also have the exact same pattern as the Team Kraken surcoats and you can see the president Julian Hewet-le Forestier in the left corner at 2:09, with one of the ladies yelling "You got this Julian, stay up!" at 2:15. That and I can hear me fellow aussies yelling from the sides.

[@steveramundo4946]

LOL - why are they standing around at the beginning - looking around like they don't know what to do? Supposed to be a war simulation...no?

[@timothyhines6220]

They're sizing up the other team to see what their strategy is. The match is usually decided after the first person goes down since they become outnumbered. During the 12v12s they may spend several minutes standing across from each other waiting for someone to make a move. I'll be posting those after the 5v5s are uploaded

[@steveramundo4946]

@@timothyhines6220 Thanks for taking the time to explain - that makes sense....

[@jeongyj3078]

In the Middle Ages, you went to war like this feminine, neighborhood kid? Middle-aged brothers are crying

[@SuperSuperdude88]

this is ridiculous. you might as well be in sumo suits hitting each other with foam bats

[@ApolloCGP]

What's with the American flag lmao

[@C_erlul]

medical corses goim

[@nt7519]

Despite all the medieval accouterments it seems to me an experienced Judo or maybe BJJ practitioner would be killer at this.

[@timothyhines6220]

People with a martial arts background tend to have an advantage though some moves don't work in armor

[@dixonhill1108]

I got a gut feeling that being overweight and then losing that weight would give you a massive advantage from a conditioning perspective. A lot of this breaks down to how good are you at carrying dead weight.

[@nigadori]

Second

[@ghoest.1402]

First

[@drew25music]

Lmao the guy with the short axe and shield in the first fight who downed his opponent, then he just runs around chopping the legs of other people fighting his teammates.

[@Thesilverthunder777]

brain damage... dead giveaway...deeeeaaaddddd giveaway

[@Myasogor]

Нормально команда украины воюет тут, а не на передовой в своей стране?

[@CartwheelsInTheMoonlight]

Mate, wayne gretsky

[@hayden4659]

2:42 dude eats a chopp thought the plates that musta hurt like hell