BUILD a TURBO KIT at home! - Starting with OEM parts from your Holden V8!

[@elimeme1764]

maaaaate, I've been tossing up putting a turbo on my 5L but there was no videos about em really, thanks for this mate.

[@TorqHub]

Well thanks for watching! There will be plenty of turbo 5ltr content on the channel 💪

[@elimeme1764]

@@TorqHub heeeelll yeah, looking forward to it, keep it up 👍👍👍

[@larndelaney7848]

@@TorqHub this is so sick man🤙

[@beardbuilds5140]

Yesssss 👌🏻 and here I was thinking that I was the only one left who still loves the good old humble 5L !! I know it’s an old video of yours but man I’m super pumped I found your channel a couple of weeks ago that’s for sure 👌🏻 Thanks for the inspiration to keep cracking on with mine 👌🏻

[@TorqHub]

In case you hadn't noticed, we're big 5litre fans here mate! haha. We know a few other die hards but these videos have definitely dragged a couple others out of the wood work. Between this turbo build, the 383ci VH, and the PSI 304 ute, there will be plenty of 5litre content in the channels future 😉 Thanks for watching man, stoked you're enjoying the videos 👍🏻

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@TorqHub haha trust me I noticed !! That’s how I found you guys !! I even gave up on the turbo LS route for my HQ pano for the humble old 5L 🦾 Now i reckon I’ll be building a boosted 5L instead 🤙🏼 Keep cranking out the legendary content fellas 👌🏻👌🏻

[@probuildconstruction]

Just found this vid researching supercharger kits for the 304...this could seriously be the go. Thanks for posting man, legendary.

[@TorqHub]

No worries superkiller!

[@timrabb]

Turbo is the go bro. Every one talks about lag but there’s minimal anyway. And getting pulled in seat is awesome as it spools up

[@rexhepnikqi3946]

FANTASTIC WORK YOU ARE DOING MATE

[@rexhepnikqi3946]

WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED DOING MY CAR MATE MY NAME IS REX, THANKS.

[@TorqHub]

G'day Rex! Thanks so much for the kind words and thanks for watching. We're just working on our own cars and our buddies cars at this point mate. That alone keeps us plenty busy for now👍👍

[@naxoslfdl7440]

My favourite engine ever made to mate 🤙🏻

[@TorqHub]

Its always good to hear from another Holden v8 tragic. We're few and far between! Thanks for watching Naxo!

[@cecilforbes3034]

Larry Perkins too,he was pissed when Holden ditched it,he had it at 600 hp NA ,I haven’t seen anyone achieve it since,

[@BADQ]

Re-watching your 304 related videos again 🤣🤣

[@TorqHub]

Haha thanks for giving the back catalogue a nudge mate! Haha

[@HeartLessGem_]

More then keen to see this finished mate! Have a 5ltr lying around and have always wanted to to turbo this bad boy, cheers for the inspiration man 👌🏾👌🏾

[@TorqHub]

That was the main purpose for us doing the video mate, to show how simple and easy it can be done. We may just do a step by step series on how to turbo a 5.0 Commodore with Jeff's vs ute one day. Thanks for watching

[@subadude3543]

Thanks for the vid mate. No bullshit and straight to the info we need.

[@TorqHub]

Thats pretty much how we roll around here mate. Thanks for watching 👌🏻

[@far.q1370]

Thanq so much just installed one in my VL ✊🏾❤️

[@STREETCARCULTURE]

I'm excited to watch this later!

[@willsmelligan4744]

Awesome work bro 👍

[@ziggassedup]

Got one in my '38 Chevy...Love 'em.

[@TorqHub]

You're a person of great taste ZIGgassedUP 😉👌🏻

[@wasabicars]

Hi Jeff. I arrived here via the "Australian Automotive KZbin Group!" on Facebook. Congrats on this vid. Heaps of views!

[@TorqHub]

Hey there WasabiCars, Thanks for coming by and checking us out, it's great to have the support of your peers 👌 Have been discovering some great up and coming Aussie creators and loving it. You've certainly already got a few runs on the board, congrats on your successes so far! Has been a little bit overwhelming the traction on this new video! Definitely a great motivator, and we're keen to keep progressing on the builds and sharing it with anyone who wants to watch 💪

[@bigdavedownunder]

I wonder if you could flip them side to side and run twin turbo

[@KingAustraliaGG]

Killer name g

[@jcspeedshop]

Reckon you could use two driver side manifold and have the turbo sitting passenger side?

[@TorqHub]

Hey John! Unfortunately you can't use a driver's side cast exhaust manifold on the passenger side because it hits the oil pump when facing forward. You can use 2x passenger side manifolds and keep the turbo on the passenger side though. That's what most normal people do and what I'd recommend anyone else to do also. Thanks for watching mate and Goodluck if you decide to make a set for yourself.

[@jcspeedshop]

@@TorqHub haha “normal” people. So do you flip the passenger side so it points forward still? I’m toying with the idea for my 355

[@TorqHub]

Nah you don't flip that one at all, you end up leaving passenger side pointing backwards like standard and then route the piping back under and forwards towards the turbo flange. You'll have to hard 180° out of the manifold flange, go under the engine mount and then then pop up behind oil pump to where your turbo flange will be. Pretty straight forward just a bit of fiddling around.

[@jcspeedshop]

@@TorqHub sounds like a weekend project 😅

[@TorqHub]

Yeah quick easy job mate. Get it done over a couple beers one weekend you'll be laughing hahaha. Goodluck and send some pics in when you get started would love to see how you go. Cheers mate

[@slw0546]

Oofy... liking this!! Will be watching it. Have vh 304 t400, wanted more hp.. this video ... best vid ive seen for very long time. 😀

[@TorqHub]

Thanks so much for the great compliment mate! We're glad you enjoyed the video. Plenty more to come of this type of content so stay tuned! 👍

[@ashtincampbell6038]

We need more videos about the holden 5.0 ltr seriously lacking on KZbin is there much difference between this engine and the one in the vt ?

[@TorqHub]

Plenty more to come Ashtin! Got at least 3 Holden V8 powered cars to build at this stage, and I'm sure there will be others. VT engine has sequential injection as opposed to batch fire (not that this will matter here, will be running aftermarket ECU and coil on plug ignition with sequential injectors.) The VT engine also has the hydraulic roller camshaft whereas this one is a flat tappet design, and also a redesigned head combustion chamber which bumped them up slightly in compression. Otherwise, very similar.

[@ashtincampbell6038]

@@TorqHub thanks mate I look forward to seeing more holden v8 videos

[@TorqHub]

You'll finda couple more on the channel if you haven't seen them already, This turbo 304, the Blown VS ute, and 383ci stroker VH. There will be plenty more to come

[@ashtincampbell6038]

@@TorqHub cool ill check them out im fixing up my dads old vt ss he left me its been sitting for nearly 10 years .

[@TorqHub]

Kurt's VR BT1 was once the family car as a kid and been sitting for easy 12 years aswell. Will be coming back to life soon... with a turbo 😈

[@tylerprofner6830]

Hey mate love the video iv got a vr clubsport and want to turbo it are u able to give me a run down on everything i would need would be great help. CHEERS

[@TorqHub]

Hey Tyler. Essentially at a minimum you'll need to fabricate turbo manifolds, dump pipe, and intercooler piping. Pick up a turbo, wastegate, 600x300x76 intercooler, stall converter (if auto), upgraded injectors and fuel pump, and find someone who can tune the factory ECU. Individual parts selection will be dependant on your power goals and application. There is no "one size fits all" method, in fact there are 100 different ways to skin this cat.

[@Trifiveguy]

Another great video looking forward to see this running !! 👍🏻🇦🇺

[@TorqHub]

We've had it fired up mate! Can browse some of our more recent uploads to check it out 💪🏻

[@Trifiveguy]

For some reason I’d never seen this video catching up now

[@stevemoore3384]

All well and good but does it actually fit though? Wouldn’t mind seeing it in the car and running. And are you refitting the P/S and A/C?

[@TorqHub]

G'day Steve. Thanks for watching. There's no power steer and no air-conditioning on this setup. I fabricated this kit to suit my car so it fits fine.. Keep an eye on the channel as we're working on the car in question at the moment and hoping to get the driveline fitted in the near future.

[@jimclarke1108]

Pleasant change

[@TorqHub]

Thanks for watching Jim 👍

[@BSinister]

Sick bro

[@aussiegrows8096]

Could be a great idea for my come 383

[@TorqHub]

We think that's a fantastic idea Paul! Turbocharged 383 plastic will be a combo that will make anyone smile!

[@aussiegrows8096]

@@TorqHub cheers bud. It’s at the shop being tuned and getting a tail shaft loop put in for my first run at Sydney dragway.

[@darylmartin3108]

Hay mate awesome run down would you sell the made manifolds

[@TorqHub]

G'day Daryl. The manifolds aren't for sale at this stage but I may look into doing so later on down the track. Thanks mate

[@darylmartin3108]

I'd be keen asap lol

[@tturi2]

I would like to do two td05 internally gated turbos off of my standard headers and use my standard cats, 450-500hp would be plenty on the stock boss260

[@TorqHub]

It's a tight squeeze in those boss 260 equiped engine bays isn't it mate! I like the new garrett g series stuff. Very compact turbos that pack a punch!.

[@Thewolverine691]

awesome vid man but one queston . wouldnt the heat from the dump pipe mt the front tyres ?

[@TorqHub]

The tyre isn't really that close when under normal driving conditions, it gets closer at full lock but I'm not too bothered about that. Dump pipe will be ceramic coated and wrapped and theres plenty of airflow under there when moving so it should be fine. Time will tell i guess. We'll hopefully have some more videos on this setup soon Thanks for watching and engaging with us Leigh!

[@markconnell6023]

I’d be more concerned about the turbo V8 melting the rear tires

[@boblogIIIfan]

do you need to purge the steampipe to weld it?

[@TorqHub]

No you don't have to purge mild steel mate. You only usually purge reactive metals like stainless steel and titanium etc

[@PangazShed]

You have got me thinking now! 😂 Pity i have to go to work in a minute, but Subbed! And will be checking out all your vids ASAP 🤙

[@TorqHub]

Good to hear the ol' grey matter got a jump-start there Pangaz. Hope you've got a few hours spare for watching all the videos haha, look forward to hearing what you think 👌🏻

[@ozziecollett3088]

The Holden V8 is a dinosaur design engine, comparing it to the modern engines on how much harder it is to get lots of power is silly, anyone who gets lots of power outta an old engine deserves a big clap, this was a great watch 👍👌

[@TorqHub]

Thanks for watching Ozzie! We couldn't agree more. We don't believe that any one engine is "better" than another simply because its newer and cheaper to make hp. We all have cars and modify them for different reasons and sometimes it may just be that dirty old 5 litre Holden v8s are the only option for us. Haha. Variety is the spice of life as they say! Thanks again for watching

[@michaellemmen5169]

Hey mate iv got the 97 VT 5liter 304 v8. I have just not long had aftermarket 20thou oversized piistons and that put in the block and also had a stage 3 camkit with chip installed aswell, so everything aftermark in engine and have extractors aswell. What are your thoughts, should i turbo or supercharge it. Seen ur vid n got me thinking i can do all that myself looks easy for me having engineering expernce. What size u think bebest turbo for it and what boost should run at?

[@TorqHub]

Hey Michael! Choosing your power adder is totally a personal preference in our opinion and really should be chosen on what type of driving you do. If you're handy on the welder then a turbo can be a good option as you can buy a turbo and wastegate etc for a lot less than a blower kit. It is hard to go past the latest harrop supercharger kit's though as they make great power and are a bolt on solution. As for turbo sizing, something in the 66 to 70mm compressor inducer range is a great start with plenty of headroom to make some decent power on the street. Let us know which way you'd go we love to see some updates on the rig. Thanks for watching mate.

[@kieranproven4874]

Thanks for the helpful information. Cool channel. 👍

[@TorqHub]

Thanks for watching mate!

[@hqmonaro308]

Hey man if i was to do this on the passenger side would it still work with x2 drivers side manifolds?

[@TorqHub]

Hey Daniel, unfortunately you can't use 2x drivers side manifolds as the drivers side manifold will hit the oil pump on the passenger side of the engine. What you can do and what I have done before is, when putting turbo on passenger side, do the crossover pipe at the front of the engine using the 2x passenger manifolds and just route the passenger side manifold runner back towards the front of the car/ turbo. You go underneath the engine mount and around the oil pump. Hope this makes sense man. Goodluck

[@hqmonaro308]

@@TorqHub Cheers mate. Other option is to run normal drivers side, loop around back and to flange, and then i can fab a manifold up for the passenger side. At the moment i’ve just got turbo, pipes and a d/s manifold

[@TorqHub]

Yeah absolutely. That's an even better idea. If you put any build pics up on the socials be sure to tag us in them, we'd love to see what you come up with. Cheers mate 👍

[@manualjzs147]

So like any project car ... any ETA to noises?

[@TorqHub]

No real eta at this point. This year sometime is the goal though. It was supposed to be ready for powercruise perth but I'm not sure if it'll make it with all that's happening around the place atm.

[@madkills10]

Earned a sub and like from me mate! love the use of the word humble, i call mine 'lazy' hahah. So a 5ltr doesnt need worked internals for abit of boost? i wanna throw a supercharger on mine eventually nd just wanna know what needs to be done. It already has a cam and supporting mods

[@TorqHub]

Thanks AussieAce! Glad you enjoyed it. It certainly is lazy, but we feel humble is a little bit more kind 😂 No worked internals needed for modest boost applications. You can see in our playlist a video of Jeff's VS ute. Totally unopened motor, 11psi via supercharger, Zero issues. The low 8.4:1 compression lends itself very well to boost.

[@madkills10]

@@TorqHub Yeah im gonna start saying Humble aswell its much nicer, shes doin her best :D Sweet, it has a cam and stuff from the old owner so i guess ill have to find out if the cam will like boost but other then that thats awesome news! ill go give Jeffs ute a sus, love seeing our aussie stuff keep up the good work.

[@TorqHub]

Plenty more to come AussieAce! We're only just getting started 💪😈

[@mattysfishingadventures]

If you want it to be reliable do a lot to the heads n bottom end stock won't last more than a week

[@madkills10]

@@mattysfishingadventures well Jeffs ute that he was speaking off has been goimg longer than that but ofcourse yes if you are putting the engine under extra stress then heavy duty parts would not be a bad idea

[@southerndiy1]

This is relevant to my interests 🔥👍 up the iron lion

[@TorqHub]

We love the Holden v8 around here, you'll fit in well mate! Plenty more to come too. Thanks for watching!

[@fredkoraba4644]

Wondering if you could tell me mate I have a issue with my vr ss commodore, it just stalled on me while I was driving. Could it be my fuel pump? When I go to start it, it turns and fires but cuts out?

[@TorqHub]

Sounds like a fuel pump to me.

[@arivat7699]

Would be happy to discuss the cost for you to put a Turbo on my VN 355, just let me know how much and when to bring it over.

[@TorqHub]

Thanks for watching Ari, we're busy enough with working on our own cars and our mates projects to be taking on any extra work. Your vn sounds sweet though and I'm sure the addition of a turbo will only make it better!

[@arivat7699]

@@TorqHub It was worth the try. Take care m8.

[@stevev6002]

Is there amarket for the v6 too?

[@TorqHub]

Yes I believe there's already a market for the v6 turbo stuff. There's a few kits out there so there's certainly some options around if you're that way inclined. Thanks for watching Steve

[@postmortemspasm]

where do you get the steam pipe from mate? havent found them as cheap as you said in the vid

[@TorqHub]

Just from any industrial supplies place mate. I haven't bought any in quite a while though. Was likely trade price as well. Thanks for watching mate

[@dannyboy632]

More on 5l turbo

[@TorqHub]

Plenty more to come in the future mate. This car is still well in the project phase but it ain't going anywhere. Thanks for watching

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

Pretty sweet for a home made setup!

[@jaxsonwest5867]

What computer system are you running with this set up thanks

[@TorqHub]

Hey Jaxson. I've got a link g4 xtreme ecu to use with individual ls coils and vt dizzy, we also have an ls ecu with conversion loom to use as well if we want. Will end up with a motec or holley efi and a crank trigger setup eventually though I think. Thanks for watching mate.

[@caydecoulthard909]

Really persuading me to build my spare 304 as a boosted motor now was gonna go high comp na but I've got spare factory manifolds already there 🤔

[@TorqHub]

That's awesome to hear Cayde. This is the exact reason the video was made. And we love hearing the feedback! Highlighting how simple the turbo manifold design can be by showing it on an engine stand as opposed to just peering into a crammed engine bay with a turbo sitting there was the key we believe. A super basic 304 turbo combo will be streets ahead of a hypo na 304. Just chase up another passenger side manifold and the rest of the hardware and your away mate. Thanks for watching mate

[@rogerveal1336]

What sort of engine management? Stock ecu?

[@TorqHub]

I have a link g4 extreme ecu to use for it now. May change to a motec, emtron or Holley efi down the track, will see how we go with the link for now.

[@TorqHub]

In saying that though, if yourself limited to the stock Delco, there are a few blokes out there still kicking goals on them. Just makes your selection of tuners and abilities pretty limited

[@ArchimedeanEye]

@@TorqHub Is Allan Gibbs still over in WA with Kalmaker? That was pretty awesome real time tuning software for the day using the old Delco ecm's

[@TorqHub]

@@ArchimedeanEye he sure is mate, working out of the Zared Fox workshop we believe. You can get the real time tuning stuff for a delco on PCMHacking website for ~$350

[@bosshoggett]

I did a VN years ago standard computer 10lb boost only thing being rising rate regulator injectors peaked at 4800rpm needed bigger. Sold it. Boost came on at 1800 with 85ar turbine and trashed the lsd as it struggled to maintain traction till third gear. 0-100 with shit stains up the seat. They need rear sway bars and stiffening at that power. Fun but dangerous and under braked.

[@lukeandjamie9976]

Do you sell them?

[@TorqHub]

G'day Luke, I'm not selling these turbo kits at this time. It could be something that I look into some time down the track but not at this stage. Cheers

[@trevorsmith9251]

Just found your channel and subscribed, would you consider 4” stainless oval tube to help with your clearances? It’s expensive, but looks awesome and helps with ground clearance issues also, Daniel Szabolic runs this type of exhaust an his low 7 second HQ Monaro for road duties, keep up the good work 🔥

[@TorqHub]

G'day Trevor, the oval tubing does look great doesn't it. I've never used it myself but I do look forward to trying it in the future some time. On this particular setup I managed to just squeeze that 4 inch dump in there but I then just split it to twin 3 under the car to retain good ground clearance. Im not sure the oval piping would have worked any better in this particular situation. There's some dump pipe fabrication to be done in the latest project ute we're doing so we'll see where we land on that one, may need to take a look at some oval maybe! Thanks for watching and subscribing mate! Appreciate the support👍👍

[@mattcochrane9997]

Hey Guys any updates on the progress of the build?

[@TorqHub]

With the Falcon all but wrapped up mate, there will be an update on this one coming soon 😉

[@boostedls24]

Why is the gate facing forward

[@TorqHub]

Wastegate does not plumb back into exhaust. It screams to the ground.

[@AyodanDownUnder]

Nice mate, one gay when I am down that way will need to have a beer

[@pauljohns1016]

Can you send me a diagram how you done your manifold please

[@TorqHub]

Hey Paul, I don't have any diagrams of how I built the turbo manifold unfortunately. We were hoping the video would do a half decent job of showing what's involved, the basic design and how simple it can be done though. Let us know of anything in particular you'd like to see and if we can slip it in an upcoming video we will. Cheers.

[@holdenfan4513]

Mmmmmmm my 5lts vs ss has been sitting for a while..was gonna put a ls in her

[@TorqHub]

Thanks for watching Holden fan! The LS engine is a great conversion but it's not the engine of choice for this car. There's still plenty of potential out there for the old 5.0 platform.

[@holdenfan4513]

Yer that's what I thought. I wanna keep it as original as possible..but I'm not cutting any holes in her for a turbo..it's All ready cammed but that did bugger all. Time to stroke

[@TorqHub]

Yes more cubes is never a bad idea. If you want boost you could look into the new harrop blower as well. You wouldn't have to cut holes for that and they make great hp

[@ToolsnTrack]

Loving the build guys, just stumbled on it here. We have done something similar on our TVR, have a look on our channel, would love to hear your thoughts!

[@dallasrunning240]

Troy candys brother?

[@TorqHub]

🤣 That's a new one! 🤣

[@markperkins8858]

I don't believe it somebody sticking to the Holden 5.0 and hasn't gone down the ls route which just about everybody does these days so good on you mate mines even older than what you have hear it's a red 308 built in 1976 don't no if you are aware but harrop has a supercharger for the injected 5.0 it was a built motor with all the best bits money can buy it produced 607kw I'm not kidding that's pretty bloody impressive from what most say a dinosaur engine have no idea what the motor and supercharger cost though long live the iron lion🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁

[@TorqHub]

Yes, we are die hard Holden v8 guys here on the channel mate. We must just enjoy doing things the hard way.. haha. I tell you what, there has never been a better time to be alive when it comes to the availability of aftermarket performance parts for the holden v8! From blower kits to cylinder heads, aftermarket engine blocks to a plethora of intake manifolds. Options are aplenty. It's great to see!!. Thanks so much for watching Mark, there's plenty more coming up so be sure to stick around! Cheers

[@markperkins8858]

@@TorqHub can't wait for more videos on that motor as I was saying I couldn't believe with that harrop built motor and supercharger they got over 600kw out off her unbelievable I think for such a old engine I'm very interested to see what you get outta yours mate I really looking forward to the next video long live the iron lion🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁

[@johnboy5167]

607 kW in your dreams 😄😄😄

[@Ricks408]

...that 355 vk in the fullboost clip has no less than 15k in the motor alone... b4 the turbo... i know, i've got 1 😂 iron lions dont like more than 500hp flywheel on stock internals, they are notoriously sloppy from factory ie castings/tolerances etc. Don't bother unless its just a burnout car cause when u try get that thing to bite the prep with 12pounds or more on a 275 its gonna scatter, maybe not immediatly, but soon 😂

[@TorqHub]

Matt's vk in the clip did go fast on the stock cast manifolds with a t4 gtx4202 though, before he changed to a 4 into 1 collector style manifold and then eventually an 80mm borgwarner turbo. This video is just about turbo manifolds, and highlighting how simple it can be done. The rest of the engine/ turbo combo will obviously determine your power potential.. people have, can and will continue to make low to mid 400 wheel hp on stock motors with cam and springs through an auto. Thanks so much for watching and interacting in the comments mate, its great to see the Holden v8 guys are still out there. we love seeing it. Cheers

[@Ricks408]

@@TorqHub yeah i agree with what ya say and it is pretty impressive. Will def keep an eye on ya content as ya dont see many 5.0 iron lion builds/projects these days on youtube🖒

[@TorqHub]

Awesome mate, we're glad to have you along for the ride!! Cheers👍

[@bigsohc]

You think the Holden 5L costs alot to make power, what about the injected Ford 5L 😂

[@TorqHub]

Plenty of blokes making big HP in the US on an 8.2 deck windsor on a modest budget mate. That's what makes doing an E series Falcon one day REALLY attractive to us haha.

[@sultank593]

bro can you build me a turbo kit for my lumina ss 2006 5.7 v8 and send it to me? I'll pay you for it

[@TorqHub]

Hey sultan, check out killaboost manifolds on Facebook, they do turbo kits that may be applicable to your needs. Thanks for watching bud!

[@azza9575]

Your a bit late I did this about 10 years ago

[@TorqHub]

I know you did Azza, I remember the blue vl quite fondly from the street commodore and Calais turbo days.. It May be a case of late to the party, but its still a 100 percent relevant party to attend we believe. At the end of the day, this was just a video sharing information for others to draw inspiration and ideas from and if one person ends up doing something similar then that's great. Thanks for watching Azza.

[@mattysfishingadventures]

Why bother 5.0 sounds ok but that's it slow n shit my vs super 6 has more kw

[@veganstein276]

Is there a way to do one of these setups without butchering the guards?? i'm not a fan of cutting up the old girl and im sure many others are the same, can't imagine engineers etc like it either... could a setup work where you do sort of symmetrical exhausts which meet the turbo in the middle in front of the water pump area? otherwise, great series looking forward to watching more!

[@TorqHub]

You can certainly get away with not cutting a hole in the front of the strut tower like I have done. There really isn't much room in front of the engine to mount a turbo in between with radiator and fans etc but you could relocate the radiator to the rear if you really wanted to do that. Most people will mount turbo on passenger side and put the dump through the engine bay sheet metal behind the strut tower. You can also mount the turbo "east west" on the passenger side and route dump pipe under the air box tray and back through in between suspension strut and engine bay on the outside too. Tonnes of different options to choose from, like I said in the video, you just pick your battles and go from there. Thanks for watching Veganstein!

[@oscarhollywood]

Rear mount