Build An Arched Trellis WithOUT Cattle Panels

[@yadabotbingo]

Seems there's a niche for cattle panel deliverers.

[@renasiscoe7443]

How did the painted one fair at the end of the season compared to the unpainted one? Did they do as well as the cattle panel? This was a very informative video.

[@suzycowan5072]

Raise them up 18" or so on the T-posts and you add another foot and a half to the height. Most vegetables don't climb or need support until they are a little taller anyways, so starting them at ground level is just wasting valuable space to climb or walk under. Just something to consider. Happy Gardening.!!

[@ramblinrosecottage5983]

I have been trying to figure out a way to make arched garden trellises without having to get cattle panels because of the transport issue. Boom, here ya go! Genius!

[@Citystead]

That's great that this might help! I would recommend painting the panels just to give them a little more longevity

[@do-it-yourself-skills]

What a great idea! I've been struggling to find something that I can actually FIND, plus be able to transport and handle by myself. Concrete wire mesh is perfect - and the local Home Depot has 111 panels. YAY!!!!

[@Citystead]

111 panels total score ours if getting a little low on those even. The supply chain is a little off right now so finding something that will work has been a little harder

[@SoilMatesofGeorgia]

Changing midway through a project is good. It shows you haven’t stopped thinking of ways to improve (or test) your plan.

[@Citystead]

True I want to make sure I try all the ways to prove what is really best

[@MakingLemonadeFromLemons]

I love how innovative you are. I am not going to make arches but I have some 1/2" hardware cloth that I am going to strap to some t-posts for my cucumbers and cucamelons to climb.

[@Citystead]

Thank you! I grabbed a roll of hardware cloth for emergency trellises when I seen the shelves emptying

[@tammibolender3785]

You are my hero with the cattle panel video. My tractor supply only carries the 16ft. You should have seen their faces when I told the cashier I would be transporting a 16ft cattle panel in my van. Yayyy stow and go seats, it just needed folded in half and it fit just fine, lol.

[@Citystead]

This is so awesome to hear! Glad you were able to shock them and get those panels home in your van

[@tammibolender3785]

@@Citystead the two guys standing watching were hilarious. Young guy laughing at me, old guy said to him "watch this, she has a plan." Watching his jaw drop was great.

[@CreatingEssence]

Great idea! Thankfully, the 16-footers fit in my mom van, and they're only $16 each at our local Tractor Supply. 👌 Grateful for that resource. This is a good option for people who need something different. Thanks for sharing.

[@Citystead]

Mom van for the win!

[@jujube2407]

Omg you are sooo lucky... they are $30 here in upstate ny

[@nancyhill296]

Question - is this strong enough to hold up tomato's and melons? I'm here in AZ. I got some remesh previously (7" wide) and they are way flimsy ...

[@Citystead]

I used 4 t-post and they held up well with our cucumbers on there last year.

[@monicakwarner1]

I used these this year! I put mine about 6 inches up the t-post to make up for some of the lost height. My cucumbers laid on the ground for a little bit but once they were long enough I wove them up through the mesh. 🌱❤

[@Citystead]

How are yours holding up so far? Have you noticed any visual rust on them?

[@monicakwarner1]

@@Citystead they were already completely covered in rust when I got them :/ I did a couple last year and they're still holding up. I do wish I could've cleaned them up some how and painted them but they still work really well 😊

[@andreagreen1467]

Just a tip- you can tie a piece of twine from the bottom of the panel to the plant for it to grab onto until it reaches the panel

[@weiwei8084]

Thanks for the video!! I built a arched trellis used the method in this video. I ‘m super happy with it. As mentioned in this video, wire remesh sheets are easy to find and transport. I was able to fit two sheets into the trunk of my Mini Cooper Countryman. The only thing that was harder than I expected was to spray paint the whole thing. The metal is skinny and I wasted a lot of paint. I’d probably try brush painting if I do this again.

[@thegiocachefamily4585]

Hubby has been watching your vids with me and he said he thought you used 2 8ft panels ;) I am happy to confirm his thought. He said those would be so much easier to use than the cattle panels we fought to get to our urban spot! Great vid Josh. Thanks for sharing

[@Citystead]

the 8ft panels are nice but these for sure were easier to handle and move into place. I think the painted them is going to be key to having them last

[@lenorakimball6661]

I LOVE the rusty wire mesh because it is barely visible in my garden. Where I live the deer are eager to dine in my raised bed area (30' x 30' area) ~ so, I stand the wire mesh panels on end & attach them to one another with zip ties or wire. I stand them upright utilizing rebar with tall bamboo stakes attached & wire/zip-tie the wire mesh to the upright stakes. They've been in my garden for more than 11 years now & are in perfect shape.

[@lindahusson1835]

Oh my gosh!,! Thank you so much for making this video! I have been wanting cattle panels for so long, but with only a suv could not get them, I am alone and been wanting to make trellis that I could do by myself! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@uncertainAuthor]

The timing of getting the notification for this was too perfect, I just got my first harvest from my little backyard garden and was talking to my fiance about how next year I'm going to try and make a DIY arch over our back porch to let my cucumbers and tomatoes grow on as well as get a little bit of shade for the back

[@Citystead]

Cattle panel trellises are the best for vertical growing! You will love having some, I have a few videos about building them and different ways to do it

[@HerEcolife]

I should have painted mine. I got rust on my tomato plants.

[@Citystead]

I was wondering about this, that's why I painted the first ones to hopefully fight against that

[@emmadalrymple4102]

I love this idea, well explained! Never thought I could get excited over seeing a package of zip ties and wire, lol.

[@Citystead]

Hey zip ties and wire are super exciting!

[@tomaitoe]

Thank you!! I went to Tractor Supply last week and almost cried when they told me there's no way in hell a cattle panel was going to fit in my mini SUV 😂

[@Citystead]

If you get a 16ft and cut it in half you can save some money if you don't mind the end not being finished. Now you can show them what's up. Guy doubted me at TSC also but I showed him how easy it was and he was kind of surprised but said he was impressed

[@countryrose7797]

I took mine home on top of my van and tied to back wiper blade.

[@janebadon3988]

Those songbirds are SO pleasant!

[@Citystead]

We seem to have lots of birds in our videos making beautiful sounds

[@EventheSparrowHomestead]

Great idea! The local place that can usually carries cattle panels has been out for awhile. We made a long trip to the Tractor Supply to get some, wish I would of thought of this for sure! I wonder if the unpainted one will rust badly once it rains?

[@Citystead]

I think they will that was why I had planned on painting them. I'll know how well they go by end of the year when I take the painted one and the non painted ones down

[@ourselfreliantlife]

Or!! You could build gabions with them.😜 We use so much we get the 150 ft. rolls.

[@Citystead]

Is the stuff you used a coated material? I'm a little worried about them rusting out

[@ourselfreliantlife]

@@Citystead it's not coated. We don't have to worry as much about rust. That might be a bigger issue up there.

[@jujube2407]

Is it the galvanized wire mesh? I seen a 50 ft roll for like 36.00 its a 14 gauge wire... I wonder if thats string enough to support the arch at the top?

[@maraj100]

Thanks for this - where I live a 'cattle panel' is unknown (I have gotten a lot of looks when I ask) - but I can get this stuff at lowes. I was worried about the rusting too so I will be watching your coating experiment - thanks again

[@Citystead]

Awesome glad this might be a solution for you! I really think the paint in the best way to go to ensure they last longer

[@marich91]

Here in Belgium I haven't found cattle panels so no later than yesterday I found the very same concrete grids as you have and was really tempted... Well you've convinced me! :D Thanks for the very instructional and detailed video, love it!

[@Citystead]

I hope they work out for you, they can break down if not painted but you should be able to get a few seasons out of them

[@marich91]

@@Citystead Ha, so it's more than just about the color/powdery orange then that you need to paint them? I'll see what I can find to protect them because it'd be a shame to not have them last as long as they could :-) Thanks for the info!

[@TheCookie591]

This was wonderful to come across. Been wanting these for years, cattle panel is not easy to access. Used remesh and more we have 3 gorgeous arches in garden. So excited for this gardening season!!

[@jenn7047]

I'm so happy to see this alternative. What height T posts would you recommend? My community garden plots are small so the smaller size is perfect for me. I have not found any cattle panels in stock anywhere and was worried about transport, too. How has the unpainted remesh arch held up?

[@Yasminenature]

Just a thought. If you wanted it taller maybe you could start the bottom a foot higher on both sides and put a bit of hardware cloth at the bottom. Here in Canada cattle panel is $100. and they only have 16 ft panels so you have to pay extra to have them delivered. Thanks for sharing this great idea! 👍🏻🇨🇦

[@lara.mcintyre]

Oh thank you! EXACTLY what I was looking for and so hard to find. Awesome!!!!!

[@danielleaf9146]

Any update/picture? are they strong for baby watermelons? love your creativity!

[@jaycollier8805]

That "copper colored stuff" that comes off the wire and onto your hands is called RUST. lol

[@loridestefano1706]

Love this idea. Can't wait to try it. How far apart are your T posts?

[@rollandelliott]

stick with galvazined cattle panels they will take decades to rust. and these will rust after one year

[@Citystead]

they made it through the year alright not as good as the cattle panels but at the time I purchased them, nobody had any cattle panels

[@OldReddingFarm]

No cattle panels in stock anywhere around here right now

[@Citystead]

Hoping this will help people still be able to make those arches since it is a little easier to find for now

[@tammibolender3785]

I could only find them at Tractor Supply and we have 6 chain stores and I live in a city surrounded by hog farms. I was very surprised that only 1 place had them.

[@FarmerG]

Nice alternative. I’ll keep my eyes open for those now 👍👍

[@Citystead]

Man you have gotten to cattle panel city over there, probably why I can't find them anymore 😂

[@miaoh6907]

I just brought 2 wire remesh, thank you for this alternative. It’s almost impossible to transport/ buy these around our town.

[@Citystead]

They will do the job. You can get some rust so painting will help with that but overall you can still get a couple years out of them

[@mel3256]

Other option, buy cattle panel and bring a wire cutter with you to cut the panel for your car. I do it with wood, panelling, etc. Sometimes store staff will help with cuts too

[@Citystead]

yes that is a good option too, I just like the more finished ends of the 8ft panel

[@mytinyretirement]

New subscriber and friend here! Just found your channel and so glad I did!

[@Citystead]

welcome, hopefully you find some you enjoy

[@nancymathisen9707]

It’s called rust.

[@Hosemastenbrook]

Where are you in Michigan? I’m over on the West side by Lake Michigan.

[@Citystead]

The East side in Lapeer county

[@sc8307]

Would that white paint that goes on citrus tree trunks work for painting these panels?

[@Citystead]

I'm not 100% sure, I think you could. I would try a small area first for sure, I used a rustoleum paint that was good for metal

[@karenhibberd9426]

What a good idea! Thank you Josh. Alot cheaper then cattle panels.

[@Citystead]

I think it's an area thing but it could be cheaper in a lot of places. Here it's about the same cost but for storing and handling sometimes that price difference is worth it

[@aquillawallace7979]

This is great!! I need this for my blackberries!!!

[@Citystead]

It should work really well for blackberries

[@Ms.Byrd68]

No offense but if you didn't want to do the 'work' you shouldn't have brought the ones you needed to paint to make 'rust proof'! Be 'honest', if you don't paint these panels, they will RUST on your as compared to the 'Cattle' panels. Price it out, don't forget your labor and then decide.

[@Citystead]

When I had made this video cattle panels were pretty hard to find, this was just an alternative way that they could be done. I'm sure they will rust but I honestly don't know how many years it would take for them to no longer be useful

[@janetc3707]

@@Citystead Remesh can last 20 years according to an article in High Mowing Organic Seeds. Also, the rust won't be absorbed or taken up by the plant, so no worries there. It's iron oxide, and won't harm your plants. Thanks for this video!

[@katiea.584]

Those are the work around I've been looking into. (Yes I'm from Canada, and cattle panel is stupid expensive here) Great to see someone else do the work before I try. Thanks Josh :) Harmony, Happiness and Health to you and yours. 🖖☮❣🌱🌱🌱

[@Citystead]

I always here Canadians say how expensive they are and I really wanted to find something that would work the same way and were easier to find

[@katiea.584]

@@Citystead and you did. Thank you 😁

[@danielleaf9146]

@@Citystead THANK YOU! I spent hours searching what can I use, everything I looked for is not available in Canada, so frustrating. I looked at this product but did not even think of attaching 2 together with zip ties to make a tall tunnel! Genius, thank you for thinking of us Canadians!

[@msjoy2005]

Update? Did it hold larger fruit?

[@Citystead]

I've been growing all sorts of squash on my trellises for years

[@GardenALittle]

very nicely done. I appreciate the alternative!

[@Citystead]

Thank you, hope it helps some people

[@mudchuk]

Are the subtitles something you added?

[@Citystead]

No, that is a KZbin thing, are they really bad?

[@mudchuk]

@@Citystead it was. But I got it figured out. Thanks for the reply 😁

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

Choosing the flimsiest, cheapest materials very seldom works out well in the long run. That powdery brown stuff is called "rust." You're going to be seeing a lot more of that. Spray paint or not. Let us know how much of that panel is still left in a year, and two years etc. By contrast some of my cattle panel arches have been up for five years in humid East TN and they still look brand new. Unless you live in a really arid region where corrosion just isn't an issue, you've "saved" a very few dollars today (which you then spent on spray paint ) just to make sure you'll have to replace the entire thing a LOT sooner.

[@Citystead]

I don't think it's the cheapest and it was pretty firm. I have many cattle panel arches up also and they are way better suited for years of use. At the time I made this video it was hard to find cattle panels so this was an alternative option. I still believe it's a decent option and will care they can last a couple years

[@R.johnson789]

This is just what I need. Was looking into cattle panels however where I am (Canada) cattle panels cost $65 per panel. So was looking for a cheaper solution. Thank you so much for the tips

[@s.mkeller4235]

2022: cattle panels are $139 at Peevey Mart in Canada