Build Your Back: Bent Over Barbell Row - The KING of Upper Back Builders

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Alexander Bromley

Alexander Bromley

4 жыл бұрын

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For aggressive growth in upper back strength and size, you can't do better than the bent over barbell row. Here's a few tips on the importance of it, along with how I structure it in training.

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@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 2 ай бұрын
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@whoaskedforme
@whoaskedforme 4 жыл бұрын
I had a weird dream where I ran into you on the street and I invited you to a house party. To my surprise, you accepted. At the party, we each had an entire loaf of bread and talked about leverages for the OHP and deadlift, but we didn’t drink because we decided to train at your gym the next morning. Strange dream.
@yerwrng
@yerwrng 4 жыл бұрын
Them you commented on how learning the OHP really makes your anus sore .
@levelup2014
@levelup2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@yerwrng 😂😂😂✌🏻
@yerwrng
@yerwrng 3 жыл бұрын
@@editboy09 Sounds about right followed by some stiff cheek dead lifts .
@editboy09
@editboy09 3 жыл бұрын
@@yerwrng 😆
@ChickensBurning
@ChickensBurning 2 жыл бұрын
Did you handle big loads in that dream?
@brianfox340
@brianfox340 2 жыл бұрын
"bracing is not just something you do when you deadlift, it's a lifestyle" is something I'm going to say forever now.
@yamchimovits9227
@yamchimovits9227 Жыл бұрын
Put that on a t-shirt
@brianfox340
@brianfox340 Жыл бұрын
@@yamchimovits9227 I would buy 2 of that shirt so I could have one and cut another into a tank top
@ollvi
@ollvi 4 жыл бұрын
heavy barbell rows with slight body english has given me the most amount of mass in my entire body
@jamesdashper1316
@jamesdashper1316 3 жыл бұрын
But if you wanted the most amount of mass on your back (not glutes and hams) then doing them strict would be better
@sabisan6359
@sabisan6359 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdashper1316 “body english” cheat rows have increased my strength and mass much more than strict. I did both variations over a six month period. No comparison
@jamesdashper1316
@jamesdashper1316 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabisan6359 I find that hard to believe. More likely you tell yourself that to justify using weight you can’t handle
@sabisan6359
@sabisan6359 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdashper1316 heavy eccentrics have been scientifically proven to increase/induce muscle mass. When you “cheat” a bit you can’t really lift it too well, but you sure as hell can lower it. This is not open for debate. Your parents are cousins
@jamesdashper1316
@jamesdashper1316 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabisan6359 I am backed by all sports science u r backed by morons
@gavincook4684
@gavincook4684 4 жыл бұрын
Just been doing some rigorous love making. Wow, engaged my core well throughout thanks for the love tip.
@throws56
@throws56 4 жыл бұрын
Just brought these back into my training, should have never left.
@getstrongby4038
@getstrongby4038 4 жыл бұрын
Ya damn right!
@GVS
@GVS 4 жыл бұрын
"back" into your training. Well played. (If you didn't mean this, just claim it anyway!)
@rajarshichakraborty8862
@rajarshichakraborty8862 3 жыл бұрын
@@GVS Hey man, did not expect to see ya in here
@GVS
@GVS 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajarshichakraborty8862 I'm a big bromley fan, even did a video on him before! Best strength channel out there IMO
@rajarshichakraborty8862
@rajarshichakraborty8862 3 жыл бұрын
@@GVS Definitely one of the best if not the best
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
That was the perfect explanation of how and why you might want to consider using momentum in your training. I 100% agree and it applies to other movements as well. Whenever I've tried using super strict in my form my results were always worse and I wasn't able to progress very easily. There's a difference between sloppy form and using momentum to facilitate overload.
@aphleesegurtra2820
@aphleesegurtra2820 4 жыл бұрын
The power component is often overlooked, When(IF) that weight becomes weightless, one must maintain control, this makes those involuntary contractions, that are often associated with unilateral work. Hope that analogy made sense for ya.
@johnpark8550
@johnpark8550 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and how you explain the lifts. I hit back pretty good on my bench day today. I've stepped it up and you've confirmed I can do it more 👍💪
@adamd.2624
@adamd.2624 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the explanation on why we need more muscle than strength in the upper back.
@anthonyluisi7096
@anthonyluisi7096 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bromley ... I now know how to do the barbell row correctly ... your videos are gold nuggets of information 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻very sage advice
@user-wf3hd3jh2q
@user-wf3hd3jh2q 2 жыл бұрын
As a short armed lifter you’ve changed my life thank you so much!!!
@ericmarks7648
@ericmarks7648 Жыл бұрын
Bracing is everything. Yates Row. Thumbs to armpits is a huge back and no more shoulder pain. Love your channel. Teach the Yates Row.
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 4 жыл бұрын
Just started doing Bent Over Barbell Rows again for the first time in over one year.
@csgtjureydsvfg
@csgtjureydsvfg 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear someone who actually knows what they're talking about, good stuff
@dennisnordlund902
@dennisnordlund902 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your content man, great stuff! Subbed.
@Str8Deenin47
@Str8Deenin47 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew your upper back could affect or worse become fatigued during overhead pressing until I started pushing over 185 for reps. I could actually feel how my back contributed to keeping the torso upright.
@unknownsource4359
@unknownsource4359 Жыл бұрын
I been doing alot of chest to bar pull ups and rowing. My upper back is getting a bit stronger and I have noticed that I been progressing in the standing overhead press.
@asdfkjhlk34
@asdfkjhlk34 Жыл бұрын
the upper and lower traps rotate the scapula as well which is an integral part of overhead pressing
@PicaPollo
@PicaPollo 7 ай бұрын
This is the reason why this is my go-to for upper back strength
@bbanwo22
@bbanwo22 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’ve been trying to figure out how to build my back
@robertwilson214
@robertwilson214 4 ай бұрын
I started mainly doing bench and 'underhand row'...I'd had an old injury in left rear delt for 25 years and sure enough,it started twingeing at 90kg bench.Tried everything,light raises,heat packs.But then I simply tried overhand rows...and it's strengthened after all these years..and I can bench again!
@joeh83winston87
@joeh83winston87 Жыл бұрын
Everytime I want to look into a certain exercise or movement to make sure I'm doing it right, your name is the first thing I type in, you are so knowledgeable about strength development, and straight to the point, thank you so much for putting out the best information
@branflakee4257
@branflakee4257 4 жыл бұрын
Doing strict rows has helped kept my chest from caving when i deadlift heavier . i do 6-10 sets of 10
@innocentpixels
@innocentpixels 2 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful!
@alexmichellelottie
@alexmichellelottie 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite exercise because it's the easiest to tell when form breaks down and offers so many variations so easily. If I need to cheat the last rep or two for me that is hitting the sweet spot. And I often do 2 rep ranges and angles in the same work out and really feel my whole back light up. Heavy strict to start and then volume at 45 degrees. I find that I end up cheating with quite an element of shrugging which saves loading the bar for really heavy shrugs.
@AshInTrees
@AshInTrees 2 жыл бұрын
I need this, thanks.
@HDAnalytics
@HDAnalytics 4 жыл бұрын
You could do a video in size vs strength and where training can intersect between the two. Just a suggestion. I love the deadlift guide and all your series.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! Always looking for more topics to cover. My main philosophy is that they are connected more than most people give them credit for and people shoot themselves in the foot by over-specializing in one over the other too early. The point you are able to gain one without the other is at a point of specialization that takes a long time to get to, which is WAY far away from where most recreational lifters are. Even at the extremes, lifters who continue to get stronger will still tend to get bigger over time and bodybuilders who continue to grow will still see increases in strength.
@Henry-yi4rg
@Henry-yi4rg 6 ай бұрын
Excellent
@ChrisV-
@ChrisV- Жыл бұрын
Great video. I learn what I was doing wrong. Thanks new sub here!
@FlannelFetish
@FlannelFetish 8 ай бұрын
That back spread bro that’s what’s up
@mrbouncelol
@mrbouncelol 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and you raise a lot of good points about the purpose of the upper back muscles in supporting other movements. I do wonder though if most trainees (beginners) really need to be doing less strict movements rather than more strict movements, if you see what I'm saying. Hit them with the pure uncut pendlays until they can move some weight in my opinion
@masonnowak5660
@masonnowak5660 3 жыл бұрын
Beginners grow from just about anything, but I'd probably want them to develop the body awareness to be able to distinguish between when a row stopped being strict rather than just have no clue once they actually need to be able to know.
@mrbouncelol
@mrbouncelol 3 жыл бұрын
@@masonnowak5660 I agree. In case it wasn't clear, I was suggesting that I think beginners should learn strict form to begin with then progress to "cheat" movements if and when they become useful. What's that old saying? "You need to learn the rules before you can break them" or some shit :P
@uranusplanet1226
@uranusplanet1226 Жыл бұрын
Indeed its the king Combo exercise. I love it and my back feels amazing when its pumped and sore next days
@heveyweightheveyweight5399
@heveyweightheveyweight5399 2 жыл бұрын
videos got me bracing when i sit down to take a shit actually helps thanks alex
@formerevolutionist
@formerevolutionist 4 ай бұрын
The Pendlay Row is my best lift. Tonight, after my bench press I did 95kg x 10, 100kg x 10, 105kg x 8, and 110kg x 6. When I first started, I couldn't even deadlift that, but now I'm rowing it!
@904strengthclub
@904strengthclub Жыл бұрын
Rows on a Smith machine are actually a great variation when you want to stay super strict on form and really just squeeze. If you did a super heavy day with body english, it's a good switch to throw to still get volume in with a lighter weight. Love the content.
@baconblaster6422
@baconblaster6422 Жыл бұрын
I agree but slightly disagree. They are in fact awesome even with slight hip hinging and rocking through the movement
@arandomzoomer4837
@arandomzoomer4837 Жыл бұрын
0:34 I’ve experienced this do rest paused zercher squats before. I just started tipping forward and everything else stopped working 2:04 I just do everything I can to squeeze upper back volume into all my days. Every upper day I do inverted rows and I do barbell rows (which I’m switching out for pendlay rows) on lower day. Plus rear delt flys on upper days and bro day. Plus lots of Zercher movements 2:47 can confirm I work a physical job and brace before picking up every feed bag
@operationtruth288
@operationtruth288 4 жыл бұрын
Great Information Can the standing 2 arm dumbbells be as effective?
@haymaker9975
@haymaker9975 2 жыл бұрын
Bracing is key in rigorous love making sessions. I like to use belt for greater stability in high rep sessions.
@nikolaypaniotov3953
@nikolaypaniotov3953 4 жыл бұрын
my apinion its the grab the grif much wild ,like weithlifter and pull to the bally ,try to more straching the back then you feel how this work it))))
@sambsialia
@sambsialia 3 жыл бұрын
We do Yates rows for 3 x 20 rep. When we can do three sets of 30, we add weight. I am afraid of sloppy rows, but with these my back feels huge by comparison.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing high-rep bent-over rows for a long time now and I don't doubt that they've added a lot of mass, but it's such a weird exercise to do and I don't know if I'm using way too much body english or what, or if I'd have to do way more sets to get the same effect if I didn't push as hard. I don't see myself when I do the rows, so it just feels like going full monke mode. It's a very taxing exercise, but I think it's worth it. The thing is that I do pretty heavy weight, and it feels very heavy for me, but I can do a lot of reps. I'll do around 80 kg for 20+ reps, but I don't think the calculated 1RM is at all right. I also keep my legs much straighter than Alex does. I've had to learn how to stand to avoid lower back pain over time, and it's largely based on Eddie Hall's deadlift lecture video on YT.
@sethvanhorn1119
@sethvanhorn1119 Жыл бұрын
Strict Axle Rows are great for grip work.
@farhanhussain_
@farhanhussain_ 3 жыл бұрын
Barbell rows with leg drive serve similar purpose what kipping pull/chins or push press serve for their respective strict versions. They may be viewed as cheat rows by some, but they are valuable tool and quite an advanced version of barbell rows...not for beginners who can't do strict versions properly.
@freedomring4813
@freedomring4813 4 жыл бұрын
Bent over T bar rows without the T bar just grip the bar. With one end of the bar in the corner. I have never got anything from wide grip rows.
@DnyAln
@DnyAln 4 ай бұрын
I primarily use an underhand grip and my lats are exploding from my waist. Far superior grip for lat development
@The-eo4lj
@The-eo4lj 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Rippetoe's rows?
@orezingao
@orezingao 2 жыл бұрын
i've been rowing on upper days (i've been doing upper lower) but it has been causing issues with my squatting on the following days.
@mikeycallum7896
@mikeycallum7896 2 жыл бұрын
I was bracing through out this whole video
@bodybydan5511
@bodybydan5511 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm a year and a half late to this video. Just found your channel recently and am catching up. Question: what do you think of rows with an underhand grip?
@dadbod488
@dadbod488 2 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for an answer to this myself lol
@joeschmo2693
@joeschmo2693 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with BB rows, but I like bi-lateral DB rows. You can get into the most comfortable position and row on any path without the bar clanging off your knees. More versatile. You can go neutral grip, tight to the torso, or over-hand, elbows flared.
@cantankerouspatriarch4981
@cantankerouspatriarch4981 4 жыл бұрын
But then you can only load as heavy as the dbs available (usually not much).
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
DB rows are great, but because it's a unilateral movement it takes more time and energy to perform. This is the main reason I prefer barbell rows these days.
@joeschmo2693
@joeschmo2693 4 жыл бұрын
@@Soccasteve Bi Lat. 2 at once.
@joeschmo2693
@joeschmo2693 4 жыл бұрын
@@cantankerouspatriarch4981 My gym has 150s. I think I'm good. Only 75s at home, but I'll go to the trap bar over a straight bar.
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeschmo2693 I've never been a fan of the bilateral DB rowing. It limits the weight I can use and I don't get as good of a stretch in the lats.
@dereknagel840
@dereknagel840 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my home gym setup cause of this whole flu deal. Super stoked to get training! Your videos rock, really well done!
@csn583
@csn583 6 ай бұрын
Did I miss it? What is your standard for full ROM? I've always tried to hit my chest with the bar and considered it a miss if I don't, but you're nowhere close.
@ResistanceQuest
@ResistanceQuest 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think cheat rows should be used more for higher-intensity or higher-volume work? Would you generally use different styles of the BO Row for sets of 6 versus sets of 15?
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
I think they both work well. A kroc row is typically done for 30+ reps in the same loose style and those who live by them can attest to their value. If I compare to a push press, I know my shoulders have grown immensely from both heavy and light work
@RodgerLucky714
@RodgerLucky714 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, my plethora of rigorous love making...
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Жыл бұрын
I prefer dumbbell row, then again I'm not a powerlifter. I still go heavy, 120s currently with strict form, and I can barbell row 275lbs with a bita body English.
@mnatnm7169
@mnatnm7169 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about t bar rows? Cheers for the content matey
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
I've never used them consistently, so I don't have a strong opinion. If I'm just evaluating them based on what I see, it seems that you have to stay way more upright just to balance and that the plates really restrict range of motion. I'm sure they are useful and you will certainly get stronger if you work them, but I think there are better options for a primary back builder.
@freedomring4813
@freedomring4813 4 жыл бұрын
Been working out for many years and a T bar row without the T bar is way better than a wide grip bent over row . Use smaller heavier plates so you get a fuller range of motion.
@smeaglerG
@smeaglerG Жыл бұрын
I love handling big loads.
@TiberiusStorm
@TiberiusStorm 2 жыл бұрын
I almost always feel barbell lifts in my lower back. It sucks because I can't increase the weight due to pain. I've worked on strengthening my core but the pain still shows up.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 2 жыл бұрын
I have some breathing and bracing videos you should check out. You have to drill the exercises daily for a few months and when you lift. Put posture and positioning over weight. Its not fun, but it can be done.
@Djinn667
@Djinn667 2 жыл бұрын
Can you maybe explain how to stay braced during a barbell row? I mainly hold my breath throughout my squats and deadlifts, but I have no idea how to handle my breath during a strict barbell row. Do I exhale going down? Going up? Do I just hold my breath?
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 2 жыл бұрын
Learn how to brace while breathing. Takes a bit of practice. I have a few videos up, just search breathing and bracing
@Djinn667
@Djinn667 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley Is it like breathing while doing a plank? Or a Pallof Press?
@camerongormley3318
@camerongormley3318 4 жыл бұрын
hey man, how to program to get better amrap, I know people say 5/3/1 but I wanted to press 3x a week (ohp) 1 time a week is no good
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
More is not necessarily better. There's a way to program for once per week, a way to program for 6 times per week; those and everything in between requires their own set of rules. Stagnation happens with any approach, so just keep in mind that if you aren't progressing, it doesn't necessarily mean you should jump to something wildly different, but make small tweaks until you do. For high frequency, the limiting factor is not your muscles or nervous system; it's your joints. If we all had titanium bones, the best way to train would be daily with great effort. But it's not sustainable on your joints. If I was programming for 3 times per week, it means accessory is going to be very low or non-existent and most of the efforts wont be balls out. One day of something moderately taxing for 5 or so sets, another day of the exact same sets and reps 10-20% lighter, and one day of 1-3 sets at something kinda heavy but light enough to allow some increase. Look at how the Texas Method programs for bench and squat, very similar.
@JGD185
@JGD185 3 ай бұрын
I want to like bent over rows but I have really long arms and the bar path is just so awkward for me. My arms tire out way before my back does. Any advice?
@craigwheeler4760
@craigwheeler4760 3 ай бұрын
Do Penary rows with wide grip. Focus on hitting the chest while maintaining torso position. That will be like a reverse bench press, with your hands close to the collars on the bar. For lower back do straight leg deadlifts, good morning as well. Middle back for you, do not be trying to do rows with your long arms. Seated row with cable on a machine as heavy as you can stand, then try t-bar row on free weights loaded machine. Middle back development will come from one arm rowing, and the loaded t-bar. I am a Texas powerlifting judge with 24 meets experience. I lifted in the United States powerlifting association as well in college. I was having trouble getting my deadlift up, until I recognized these lifts and the alternatives.
@petersoar2886
@petersoar2886 3 жыл бұрын
I think barbell rows might be my favourite exercise in general. They are spectacular.
@fabzgotit
@fabzgotit Жыл бұрын
Does anyone get kind of lightheaded for a few seconds after your sets?
@xeniosgerolemou6061
@xeniosgerolemou6061 3 жыл бұрын
4:10 strict row
@SweelFor
@SweelFor 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of programming them into a week that also has deadlift, you wouldn't do them on the same day right? Would you try for example to have at least 1 rest day before and after each movement so they're not "next" to each other? Since the setup is so similar
@mossoconnor4417
@mossoconnor4417 4 жыл бұрын
SweelFor I like doing them on the same day so I have the rest of the week for my lower back to recover
@dbsasuke
@dbsasuke 4 жыл бұрын
Program these on the same day as bench press. Preferably before benching. This gets the back super activated and ready to support the bench. Bench gains really started going up.
@pyloredaking7133
@pyloredaking7133 4 жыл бұрын
@@dbsasuke I'm going to try this out thanks for the advice!
@samsoninthepit
@samsoninthepit 4 жыл бұрын
Moss is right, they are best done after deadlifts, especially Pendlay rows
@giovannimontes3854
@giovannimontes3854 4 жыл бұрын
@@dbsasuke i agree is better to throw them during bench day. Like a superset but like he said do it before bench. Besides not only does it make bench easier but it keeps your shoulders healthy and balance. You should always row as much as you bench press weigh if not more.
@DiegoGarcia-vt5kr
@DiegoGarcia-vt5kr 4 жыл бұрын
I think its worth noting that pendlay row is more explosive, stimulates a lot of muscles growth, and doesnt severely fatigue the lower back
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
And that's great for the Oly lifters that Pendlay coached, everyone else does them because they are easier and can be done with more weight.
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
Pendlay rows do a worse job at stimulating muscle growth due to the lack of eccentric and unloading at the bottom position. Same difference between dead stop deadlifts and touch and go deadlifts/SLDLs.
@DiegoGarcia-vt5kr
@DiegoGarcia-vt5kr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Soccasteve could you just familiarize me with unloading at the bottom?
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
@@DiegoGarcia-vt5kr Because the weight is resting at the bottom there's no tension in the muscle so it's not as good of a movement as far as hypertrophy is concerned. For strength it can be a really good movement though, just depends on what your goals are.
@freedomring4813
@freedomring4813 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, Diego Garcia is one place I was lucky enough not to visit when I was in the Seabees.
@ae746890
@ae746890 2 жыл бұрын
I like underhand grip on these (i.e. Yates Row)….anyone else?
@MohamedMohamed-by5iy
@MohamedMohamed-by5iy 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Yates variation could gamr your biceps, as you go heavy.
@paulshortall6734
@paulshortall6734 4 жыл бұрын
B/O BB Rows are best, where do you place DB Rows, pull ups etc
@paulshortall6734
@paulshortall6734 4 жыл бұрын
“Must do better”
@CsaVage90
@CsaVage90 4 жыл бұрын
Can I send you footy of my bent over rows and you critique? Thanks for all your content.
@ipbthunder
@ipbthunder Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer weighted pull ups. Bent over rows always seem to hurt my lower back.
@j3rs3yjak3FIU
@j3rs3yjak3FIU Жыл бұрын
#RigorousLoveMakingSession
@Hogballs
@Hogballs 4 ай бұрын
“Ever increasing LOADS”
@711hangouts6
@711hangouts6 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Bent rows are great for building the entire posterior chain tbh. When op lifts the bar, you can see Hamstring flexibility is lacking, and knees are too bent, making bar path hook up. Also, when op is standing, you can see he is mostly power lifting, with the gut, and there is a major disparity in his arms. Maybe add in some one-arm rows 😂😂😂 In a nutshell, don't fall in love with Rippotoe 😂😂😂
@MountainMace
@MountainMace 2 жыл бұрын
We all want a back that looks like we could “take big loads”
@JSauble0161
@JSauble0161 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a good exercise but plenty of others build a big back without taxing spinal erectors as much T bar row Dumbell row Seated cable row
@Soccasteve
@Soccasteve 4 жыл бұрын
Like he explained in the video there's something to performing movements where you're standing on your feet as opposed to being supported in some way. I think cable rows are fun but I can't say I've actually gotten any results from them, the same with the pull down. Pull down feels great when I do it but I have much better results with Pull-ups/chin-ups. Dumbbell rows are great but they take up more time and energy being a unilateral movement.
@JSauble0161
@JSauble0161 4 жыл бұрын
Do you actually even feel the muscle? Most people pile on the weight and just use thier whole body. If you are squatting and pulling heavy u need to be careful about blowing that low back out and bent rows will do that so unless u do ur rows on ur squat pull day u ain’t going crazy heavy do I do bent rows sure but I wave them with t row Dumbel row and I don’t do them on the week I pull heavy it’s a good exercise but lol there’s a lot of ways to skin a cat and nobody cares what u barbell row
@JSauble0161
@JSauble0161 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with mr bromley it's a great exercise. Dorian Yates made me believe that. I'm just saying be careful how u put them in your training. They can overtrain your lower back. Mr bromley also stated this Good Video
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone worried about overtaxing their erectors likely has a lower body that is SEVERELY underdeveloped or no concept of how to brace. I can easily imagine upper-body-only guys having issues; I've witnessed idiots who deadlifts less than 500 but try to recklessly clip off high, jerky reps with 365. That's not the exercise, that's bad decision making. A well rounded strength athlete will likely be using 40-50% of their max deadlift. On the list of very taxing/dangerous things that powerlifters, strongmen, olympic lifters, and pro bodybuilders do to build themselves, strict bent rows are so far down the list it's almost not worth talking about.
@JSauble0161
@JSauble0161 4 жыл бұрын
Well bromely I agree with u keeping the weight lower but... often lifters push the envelope of weight versus I’m going to train light I’m glad you are putting good information out there
@rafathchowdury1968
@rafathchowdury1968 4 жыл бұрын
Pendlay vs barbell row ?
@alexwilliams5587
@alexwilliams5587 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Alexander, I know you’re a doctor, but my quads feel kinda “funky” (thats the only way i can explain it) when i lowbar squat. But i dont feel it much highbar squatting. What do you think is up? This is new and I’ve squatted lowbar for awhile
@mossoconnor4417
@mossoconnor4417 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Williams I think you should listen to some more Red Hot Chilli Pepper, maybe some Primus, and for sure some Rage Against The Machine before you squat, move your whole body and let the funk out. Nah but seriously maybe just try giving them a foam roll and breaking them up a bit. Some slight discomfort can just be fatigue too, you could try a deload. You could also try warming up more especially if it’s cold where you train, maybe try some knee sleeves. Stretching your hip flexors never hurts, do some body weight Bulgarian split squats as a warmup, maybe sit back more or squat wider. There’s probably nothing wrong and you just need to get used to the movement. With just a slight funk its impossible to really give any advice other than to experiment yourself and don’t do anything extreme if it gets worse
@alexwilliams5587
@alexwilliams5587 4 жыл бұрын
Moss O'Connor I’ll definitely try those suggestions out, especially Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Thanks dude
@dennisnordlund902
@dennisnordlund902 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Williams Low bar didn’t work at all for me and i was under the impression that low bar was the only way to become really strong, but they just didn’t work. So by chance i tried some oly lifting movements and was told to high bar squat with those movements and that really unlocked my squatting! Now I squat heavy several times a week with great form with no pain or anything. So for me at least it seems high bar fits my bio mechanically better and that is the case for some people. Go for them man!
@alexwilliams5587
@alexwilliams5587 4 жыл бұрын
dennis edlund ok, i tried some stuff out last night and a closer stance seemed to help, same with wearing flats. I’ll try your suggestion too tho
@Weetirador
@Weetirador 4 жыл бұрын
cailer woolam uses Bent over barbell row to increase strenght is this legit? like his lifting 500lbs in the row and he said it help him to gain more strength for deadlifts .
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
The style that he does it is very explosive; it's tweaked to be more like a deadlift accessory than a simple upper back builder. It is productive, but I strongly urge less developed lifters to have most of their work strict and to incorporate that style further down the road. Also, make sure your deadlift is technically sound; trying to row like Woolam could be a bad time if you aren't very good at bracing and hinging under a load.
@Weetirador
@Weetirador 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley thanks for the tips and advice. Yeah im still a novice lifter though like your channel so much.
@xeniosgerolemou6061
@xeniosgerolemou6061 3 жыл бұрын
7:43
@derrickhobbs8842
@derrickhobbs8842 2 жыл бұрын
Seal row?
@inhibited44
@inhibited44 2 жыл бұрын
The man looks normal compared to another dude i was watching with veins and muscles all over him. I think the other dude was using something because ordinary, but hard working weightlifters look like this guy.
@robertfishter2862
@robertfishter2862 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander, where is your gym?
@HarmonicGrunt
@HarmonicGrunt 2 жыл бұрын
I do them Dorian Yates Style!
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend doing the rows while lying on a bench or some related support. Doing rows standing up puts enormous pressure on the lumbar spine. When a person is super-young and ignorant, they may mistake disc pains for muscle tension and keep on going but doing the row supported will allow you to concentrate on the muscles used instead of fighting gravity with your entire body like you do standing. I know a person who destroyed his back for life doing a long set of these rows. I have not looked back since. You can compensate by standing nearly upright (Yates row or whatever) but then you're just basically doing shrugs with zero lats.
@mnatnm7169
@mnatnm7169 4 жыл бұрын
Every lifter worth their salt does bent over rows. Your mate probly had underlying lumbar issues or looked like a scared cat doing them.
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 4 жыл бұрын
@@mnatnm7169 "Every lifter worth their salt" Sorry but this is the toxic masculinity that gets people hurt; "you must do this and that and it's your fault if it's a stupid idea".
@agontprevarator5214
@agontprevarator5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Why should we take advice from someone that uses the term "toxic masculinity"? Do you watch your wife get effed by other men?
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 4 жыл бұрын
@@agontprevarator5214 Just because you don't like a word does not mean my facts are wrong. Toxic masculinity is just that; finding glory and meaning in meaningless pain, suffering, recklesness and injury. For a 15 year old boy it may be trying to dodge a train to impress your friends and for older men it may be horrible gym routines. I like bodybuilding but I'd be ashamed if I had not outgrown the goofball age and the shaming.
@robertjamestaylor9261
@robertjamestaylor9261 Жыл бұрын
4:00
@user-xd6qb8uc1j
@user-xd6qb8uc1j 3 жыл бұрын
How to build your belly?
@DrVonNostrand
@DrVonNostrand 10 ай бұрын
1:11 ayo??? Pause!
@everydaywarriors
@everydaywarriors 4 жыл бұрын
4:36 that's what she said!
@mijosum
@mijosum 3 жыл бұрын
Your mom?
@davenportbarbell734
@davenportbarbell734 2 жыл бұрын
Dorian Yates would beg to differ
@Joshdd
@Joshdd 2 жыл бұрын
Hope CaylePT doesnt make a video about this one 😅
@jd2161
@jd2161 2 жыл бұрын
"Handle big loads"
@brainhakker7133
@brainhakker7133 2 жыл бұрын
WHOLLY HELL.... Did you just turn around and show the back ,... in case people don't know what you meant. !! WOW
@inhibited44
@inhibited44 2 жыл бұрын
Tough to breathe doing this exercise. My heart rate goes up quite a bit doing 130lbs. That looks like 200lbs + the bar.
@createyourpattern2773
@createyourpattern2773 3 жыл бұрын
Algorithm
@tipoftheiceberg7034
@tipoftheiceberg7034 Жыл бұрын
Hard to judge really, if you're THAT big everywhere then no shit your upper bag is as big as every other part
@Louie_5
@Louie_5 3 жыл бұрын
algo
@marksmith9175
@marksmith9175 2 жыл бұрын
I no longer use a straight bar for BENT OVER ROWS or any type of back movement. a neutral grip with a V-handle feels just right for T-bar rows - cable rows and pull downs. i much prefer a trap bar for deadlifts and BENT OVER ROWS - a neutral grip again. you're like RIPPETOE, you're stuck in the narrow world of STRAIGHT BARS. same with squats, I no longer use a straight bar - I only and always use a SAFETY SQUAT BAR.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 2 жыл бұрын
Because barbells are better. Obvi
@marksmith9175
@marksmith9175 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley you didn't finish your response. persuade me that barbells are better.
@bigboii1150
@bigboii1150 4 жыл бұрын
0:05 don't do that. 😂😂😂💪😭
@kendallt909
@kendallt909 4 жыл бұрын
That's how he "handles big loads"
@JohnJohnson-hl4fv
@JohnJohnson-hl4fv 3 жыл бұрын
Don't the biceps get big from the row?
@rayleota6005
@rayleota6005 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t look like someone people aspire to look like. You should’ve stayed at Westside Barbell. You Could’ve actually learned something from Louie.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 4 жыл бұрын
Man, multiple posts! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I always appreciate engagement from fans!
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 9 ай бұрын
​@AlexanderBromley very delayed post since just seeing this video now off a KZbin recommendation while trying to perfect the form for this movement. Thank you for the excellent video and being a similar build and body type(I think I maybe got a bit shorter arms) it's awesome to see. Inspiring and motivating as well. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
@petercalicchio4973
@petercalicchio4973 Жыл бұрын
Pendlay Rows are the best because it gives your lower back a reset after each rep.
@chimay3
@chimay3 Жыл бұрын
Pendley rows also allows more controlled body english, and some "magic". Sometimes I do 5x(5-8) like this: 1, set 70% weight, 100% strict. 2. set 80% weight, kind of sloppy. 3. set 90% weight, body english. 4. set 100% weight, a lot more body english. 5. set 80% weight, magically 100% strict 😎
@xeniosgerolemou6061
@xeniosgerolemou6061 2 жыл бұрын
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