Building a Modern Wooden Boat Frame | Building Temptress Ep10

[@greganderson8374]

I was a Sailor in the US Coast Guard so I have spent a lot of time on boats and ships, and I have to say, I have never seen a boat being built before. I have totally enjoyed your series on building of the Temptress. I love how you have modernized the building process with the CNC, your build table and the use of epoxy. Your explanation of the process are very informative, but now I know the how and why you are doing the different steps, just watching you build a frame is great.

[@GingerPiston]

I’m happy with either style to be honest, but happy with the lack of narrative when it’s essentially repeating processes that you have done in previous vids.

[@guywren4801]

Enjoying looking over your shoulder in this project. Maybe a little skeleton diagram of the boat with a 'ticking off of parts completed' at the end of an episode will help us see progress through the project.

[@Andrew1849]

Andrew from NYC, never built a boat, never going to build a boat but hooked on your series, mesmerized by the combination of tech and wood! Keep em coming please!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Glad you like them!

[@dalevalentine1721]

I find that everything you are doing is extremely well thought out. The joints between the pieces that lock them in place, the fixturing of the pieces and even the clamping. Well done.

[@markpalmer5311]

I’ve learned a ton from the more explanatory videos, now I enjoy the “show” videos just as much, especially on the repetitive processes. I think some explanations about what you’re doing different, learning, changing, etc., is helpful.

[@heinvosloo45]

Your work is truly amazing and a pleasure to watch! I am happy with the way you do it now. Keep up the good work.

[@JonWoodruff]

Loved this video! I'd be afraid to use the boat when it's finished. It's a work of art!

[@andrewknill8652]

Excellent video again - your narratives are great and set the context of what you are doing brilliantly but happy with the non-verbal format where it doesn’t warrant detailed explanation - but much enjoyment in watching either way! Keep up the good work Dan!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Thanks 🙏

[@fordyootbling2189]

Always a pleasure to watch. Personally, I prefer to have a narrative or commentary as you do the work. Your mastery of the CNC machine is impressive. Many thanks and keep up the great work.

[@robertcarey3015]

Excellent video, Dan. Enjoy the explanatory style, especially when you are doing new techniques,and this style without the commitary where it's the same process e.g. frames 5-7 of the cockpit area. Am currently working on a cheaper version of wooden scale masted sailing ship, and your explanatory during the quarter scale model has proven very inspiring for creativity in dealing with the issues that have arisen. Cheers, mate from down under

[@Fawleygairs]

what a great a video

[@MurraydeLues]

You meany. Put a glove over the hammer handle. Less clean up later. Love the series. When I take a collet out of the spindle, I always wipe the inside of the spindle. You can get small dust build ups that can cause vibration and tool run out. Love the dowels for locators. Fun watching your CNC journey. You are always thinking of better ways.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Yes that poor hammer does get rather abused 🫢 I've never actually cleaned up inside the spindle, I hate to think what it looks like in there. I will take a look though.

[@flox8342]

Love your work. Hope i will have a workshop like yours one day to do similar things…

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

One day 🤞 keep working towards that goal!

[@stanmoderate4460]

Watching both this build and Bob Kody's (Polymerman Boatbuilding). The comparison between his 'armature', home-build with mainly hand tools and your professional, precise approach with a fully mechanised workshop is striking. I admire both but know which boat I would rather own at the end of the day.

[@arlingtonhynes]

I love these videos. The people engaged enough to offer feedback are the ones who want more of the same, or more of the same but more so - plus a few who’ve never heard of wood before, and are newly certain that only c*nts build boats out of it. The ones you want to hear from are the ones who *almost* stuck around. God knows how you contact them.

[@darrenleask6042]

Loving you sharing what and how you are doing this.

[@bjornflood6204]

Brilliant work man! Looking forward to more episodes.

[@kenwanless4533]

Excellent content. Perhaps if you narrated a video like this after the fact just to help us understand what is taking place and comments about how you feel the process is going. Otherwise I’m loving these.

[@bruceottway8369]

Mate, i can watch just your sander in action so you can do no wrong as far as I am concerned, I'm just glad you dont bombard us with music to an old woodworker like me the sound of your tools is music enough and you have a great voice for public speaking

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Awesome, I can make you a video that’s just 30 minutes of sanding if you like 😆 I’m planning to come away from using music so much as it causes a nightmare with copyright so I think I’ll stick more with ambient workshop sounds from now on 👍

[@86OEd]

A pleasure watching!

[@iblong9505]

I like both styles of video. Couple notes: if doing a non-explanatory vid, consider it ASMR and adjust volume levels accordingly to account for machine noise no one cares to hear. And maybe consider adding subtitles with details of what you're doing vs voiceover. The welding-style frame table for your jigs and work holding is brilliant

[@АлександрКутузов-е6ф]

Здравствуйте . Спасибо за интересный фильм . С интересом смотрю ваши работы , приятно увидеть у вас инструменты и станки такие же что использую и я , занимаюсь похожим делом , изготавливаю в своей мастерской мебель и лестницы из экзотических пород дерева . А вот катер себе сделал из титанового сплава , мореходный 15 лет назад . С детства занимался катерами и парусными яхтами как хобби . Люблю хороший столярный инструмент , особенно от Ли Нельсона , Есть рубанки ,полученные из рук Ли Нельсона . Мне нравиться ваш основательный подход к делу. Успехов вам , сделать катер это большой труд !

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Спасибо. Да, инструменты Lie Nielsen замечательные, у меня есть один из их самолетов. Но очень дорогой! Рад слышать, что вам нравится серия 👍

[@kenlloyd3078]

Not having commentary is fine when you're essentially repeating processes you've already explained in previous videos. It's a different experience for the viewer, more like being a fly on the wall. I also had more time to see smaller details, such as cleaning off excess glue before it sets (I am a bit fanatical about this in my own work!), plus the observation that you're left handed. Welcome to the lefties club!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

I am a lefty, well spotted 😁

[@mikiethebikie]

Really fine work Dan. 👏👏

[@nutsmcflurry3737]

It’s stunning how you have the small diameter register holes, already built into the table. And they work. With the table, cnc files and all the other jigs. Building another of these is super simple, compared to starting from scratch. Which leads me to this question. When the build is done, have you considered selling all the tooling, or maybe building more sets of tooling in kit form? I guess the next question is are you planning building more of this boat yourself? Not a bad idea starting the 21st centuries Chris-Craft. With the ability to use cnc and your jigs, you already are set up for additional employees. I know, I know, the is far outfield on my part.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

This system undoubtedly comes into its own when you begin building more than one of anything jigs and CNC setups would become highly efficient in small batch runs. I don’t envisage building large numbers of these though, in fact it’s likely that the one I’m doing now will be the only one of this model that I’ll ever build. I’ll probably move on to another design afterwards but that’s a long way down the line. I could sell the tooling or kits however almost all of the interest currently seems to be overseas and not in the UK.

[@nutsmcflurry3737]

The person wanting this as a tender for his yacht, won’t blink about the shipping.

[@kamalrostov2363]

A much better and improvement vid. Thank you :)

[@marcboriss187]

Just awesome ❤

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@johnnyknap]

Nice work, this will be a very strong structure by the looks of it. Saw some good photos of you at the Thames traditional rally along with the smoking 100 year old two stroke speeedboat!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Thanks, it sure will be! Yes that was a great few days playing with old boats. Someday I'll have Temptress at that event as well hopefully 🤞

[@CopyCatGarage]

I am almost ready to purchase my plans for this. I just may be reaching out to pic your brain on the build and some modifications I have in mind. Thank you for making and sharing these videos.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Cool! Feel free to drop me an email with any questions you have 👍

[@cjwillis]

Hi Dan, personally I like the narration. I’m a maker and enjoy watching people from all disciplines make things, I use it as a way to relax but also to learn. I think the narration keeps me engaged better and I don’t ever skip the speaking parts, whereas I do skip bits that are a bit “samey”. The narration gives insight into your thoughts behind each task and makes it easier to keep up with everything. As you’re making a lot of these frames if you just do the workshop video and noises the content could potentially be very samey whereas if you’re adding narration it just gives that extra level of engagement and varies things slightly and I don’t mind you repeating information you’ve shared before at all. Also I’m not sure what your analytics are saying but I imagine you’re getting a lot of views from non subscribers? If this was the first video I was seeing of yours I would have no clue what was going on and it could be potentially off putting for new viewers as they would be lost. With the attention span we have these days they may not look at previous videos to find things out. Anyway, just my 2c. Keep up the good work!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Good points thank you. Yes didn't think of non subscribers as well, it would probably look like quite a random video if this was the first one in the series you landed on. It seems like the general consensus is that commentary is enjoyed so I'll do that format on the next video 👍

[@cjwillis]

@@DanLeeBoatbuilding my pleasure. I’m recording content for videos at the moment and am coming to the same conclusions. It’s difficult when you feel like you’re showing the same content or repeating yourself again and again but I always go back to the fact people don’t remember much of what they’ve heard before and also new viewers need to hear it. Anyway, great videos and I look forward to seeing the project progress!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Yes that’s true. It seems repeatable to me but then for someone from the outside it probably isn’t.

[@robeigner4390]

At the 3:53 mark was that an automated bung cutter? I've never seen one of those before. I'd enjoy watching a shop tour to see all the standard and unique tools you're using, especially the little battery-operated sander. One last comment: I found some 90º angle heads that probably don't fit your CNC but was wondering if your CNC is capable of using this type of head to cut out the area for the battens. I mentioned a 4 or 5-axis CNC before but maybe this kind of attachment with your typical cutter bit would be able to finish off the slot with a squared-off corner. I know you'll be going back and hand cutting every slot but having the CNC do it might be nice (hope this makes sense).

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

That is my briquette press. All of the sawdust and shavings from my machines go into that and are pressed into little logs which we sell for firewood. I also have a wood shredder hooked up to the system so this means all of our wood waste can be processed in one format. I bought all of this when we were running our old business and producing a lot of wood waste but it doesn't get used so much anymore. I am not sure on the angled head, the biggest issue with that would probably be how much of the z axis travel it would take up. The machine is already on its limit with the long cutter and a tall frame so there probably wouldn't be room for an angled attachment. 4 or 5 axis machines tend to have a higher gantry than mine. Most of the battens are actually going to have rounded internal corners as well so I probably won't need to square these out very much.

[@robeigner4390]

@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Rounded battens would be a great idea and reduce a lot of fine tuning.

[@carvalholuis4341]

Impecável,tens sem dúvida melhorado não só a eficiência na fabricação mas também não qualidade dos teus vídeos!!! continua!

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Obrigado!

[@Olichi60]

TBH I prefer having a commentary.

[@markgallagher1376]

Great video!! Do you change the plastic on the framing jig after every frame since you have to poke so many holes in it?

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

That current sheet thats on there I have used for the last 3 frames and it is holding up well. When I was using the thinner shrink wrap I was replacing it for each frame. The tougher polythene seems to be the better option and it may last me for all the frames I still have to do.

[@stewkingjr]

Just curious why the vacuum hose isn't closer to the bit? Because of videoing? This is an interesting series. I guess you probably know about arctic seacamel doing something similar.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

It normally has a dust shoe on there as well which the hose goes onto, when doing operations like this it would catch though, because of the uneven shape I am machining but also the amount of z axis travel that is needed, the shoe would almost certainly catch on the part. Yes I have come across arctic seacamel after a few people mentioned the channel on here. Great work he is doing and on a huge scale compared to me!

[@timpickering253]

Yeah love it eitherway thanks. I want to support the channel by purchasing a hoodie. It says limited shipping available, do you ship to Dubai? Cheers, Tim.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Hi Tim I am not sure, the merch is sent directly from the printers to the buyer so it's not actually sent by me. If it says it won't ship to Dubai then drop me an email and I'll see if I can send you one from here 👍

[@onedsoon]

So I wonder if you could clarify why the frames are still being made from multiple sections, would it not be stronger to CNC them as full frames from the start using multiple sheets of appropriate ply? Assuming they can be nested to get two/three from each sheet?

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

This is to ensure correct grain orientation throughout each part of the frame to minimise runout and short grain sections. Cutting frames from full sheets would be infinitely more wasteful but also you’d compromise the strength significantly.

[@martinmuckle]

When you say 'significantly' longer for the traditional method, how much longer?

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

It's difficult to say definitively, it's a time that would be likely to vary between boats but as an estimate I would think around 40-60 hours work to shape the stem, bevel and fair frames and install the topside battens. Possibly more, I've never actually done it on a boat of this size before. If these components all line up as well as the others on my test setup did then all of this work will come together in around 1 day I think.

[@redrockroger]

Did you by any chance upload last week's chapter markers/headings and tie it to this video. They seem to be very disjointed from what is happening in the video.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

I did, sorry, copied it over from the last video. Should be sorted now.

[@DKWTyler]

Where does a person secure building material (wood) in the UK.?

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Sykes Timber would be my recommendation for solid woods of all species and Robbins Timber for good quality marine plywoods.

[@mattivirta]

what size you cnc spindle have, i just looking order buy new better spindle my cnc machine, old has 800W air cool, but i has burn this no power cutting 21mm birch plywood deep, 6mm bit stop run after has 10mm deep, and i cut 2mm pass only. looking new better spindle now. ER 16 or ER20 collects.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

My spindle is a 4.5kW (3phase) air cooled spindle, the collet size is takes is an ER32.

[@mattivirta]

@@DanLeeBoatbuilding oh, BIG, cost too much my DIY machine, i just think budget say need buy 1,5KW cheap aliexpress spindle but want buy 2.2KW spindle. 220V 3 phase out VDF. just looking were found cheapen option. ER16 or ER 20. only can dream 3-5KW spindle very expensive for me. i just try looking plan to boat but not know how convert web picture to Vcarve aspire file then can inport picture to Vcarve software and draw all boat ribs and keel profile 3-4mm plywood and cut out RC-model boat frame. want build same temptress boat too, beautyfull boat lines. i think maximum boat size can be my cnc table size max, table max is 590mm x 650mm i think perfect size make model boat parts one plywood on table. but no know were can download boats picture and drawing ribs. Vcarve can import only vector, DXF, jpeg, EPS AI - Adobe Illustrator PDF - SKP - DWG -

[@nicolasschneider8452]

I miss the narrative, your comments highlight the brain work that is always hidden behind this kind a high level craftmanship…

[@cpt.mirones5109]

I dont now why i allways flince seeing people going so close to the bandsaw with their hands but hear me out: to avoid using the big bandsaw for tiny parts why not build a tiny Moving bandsaw like you see in the US on Trailers and such mobile sawmills. a table with suction holding it inplace and then have the tiny bandsaw move on rails. man i wish i had acces to a workshop so i could make a Prototype, i allready have background in metal work and mashine operation. Sadly when i google miniature Sawmill i only get Dioramas and Alaska Style Sawmill using Chainsaws.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

I know what you mean and I do the same watching it back but I can assure you that I do operate it with care and always feed parts in such a way that even if I slip or something goes wrong, my hands aren’t in line with the blade. The push stick also always comes out when parts need to be fed in close proximity to the cutting edge.

[@okiesoonernews4645]

less machine noise please

[@charlescashell5645]

Why don't you use a shoe on your vacuum?

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Because my cutting operation spans about 80mm of Z axis travel the shoe would catch on the frame and fixtures if I used it.

[@mattivirta]

no has subtitles and translator not working this video, all other tube video working. sad, not can looking video now. shit.

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Sorry about the captions, I don't know why they didn't work this time. They should be sorted now 👍

[@mattivirta]

@@DanLeeBoatbuilding 2 day after has subtitles, thanks you new video, i enjoy looking all process how build. i have cnc machine too and interesting how make. i want build small scale model but not have plan and how move/convert wepb pictures to DXF or other Vcarve file can cut 4mm plywood all ribs and parts. need plan first.

[@davidnonya7359]

trying out asmr :P