Building A New Internet: The Bold Plan To Decentralize The Web | NBC News

Tech entrepreneur Mark Nadal is a dreamer who longs for a world with less greed and more community. He believes the Internet will make this possible - just not the Internet we have now.
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Building A New Internet: The Bold Plan To Decentralize The Web | NBC News

[@XMattingly]

So basically, Pied Piper’s business model

[@robs6394]

Funny thing little people know: MaidSafe which has been building a decentralized internet for 6 years and has been in talks with the people who make that show

[@unvoce]

Mark's work pre-dates the dWeb introduced by the Silicon Valley series. Mike Judge actually interviewed Mark and was considering working him into the last season of the show.

[@saccityprince]

There's are only 3 reasons why you're here. 1. Google recommended this 2. You're a real nerd ( like me) 3. You watched silicon valley

[@AR0YDev]

2 and 3 🙃

[@isaacosgood1579]

I'm all of the above lol

[@sheldoncooper3373]

2nd and 3rd

[@jamescarrico1233]

2

[@AnshGurjar-1]

@@AR0YDev can we connect?

[@mnmdisney]

When all the pics from the U.S military soldiers abusing prisoners came out and blew up the web and government couldn't control it was the moment the internet became controlled.

[@pabloatenas3292]

True. I remember now. Good point.

[@josvooges]

@@muffinman1157 so that they can contol it!

[@gurumack]

At 3:05 this guy predicts the future in regards to censorship

[@OurFreeSociety]

You mean the censorship that started to go ramped since 2016. They censor & book burn EVERYTHING now when it comes to the TRUTH.

[@Cneq]

As someone who's certified with AWS + a fan of cloud computing and also an avid crypto holder that sees the potential of decentralization I feel like I'm at an complete impasse with these two conflicting beliefs lmao

[@shivanshsharma4276]

Guys dont forget what happened to pied piper we cant let that happen again.....

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Don't be. Even AWS relies on a form of the decentralized internet.

[@OurFreeSociety]

Amazon is one of the main evil corps around. They have ruined many a small to medium business, bezos is an evil collective, AND I just realized the other day that every TV show they produce (at least the ones I've watched) are very dark. Even the video overlays they use are dark, which brings down our energy and brainwashes us that all of society is dark. It's not a coincidence even though their shows are full of predictive programming. I wouldn't trust AWS if you paid me a million dollars. Just like with goolag, they can shut your site down whenever they want saying you went against their TOCs.

[@prometheus575]

While this is a great solution, there is the problem with the sheer amount of data that exists, and the room to store it. _Somebody_ has to have a large server bank, therefore giving them control over a large amount of data going up and down, but I assume he has already thought of this. It would have been nice to have a longer clip.

[@prometheus9096]

This is why a decentralized internet has to split up data(and copys of it, maybe based on frequency of use / "popularity") between nodes. So even if you have a big data center you only host parts of parts and their are more copys of that data out there. There is also more than enough free disc space on the internet ;) (I dont use 100% of my disc space, i don't think neither do you). Decentralized web hosting is the key. So you could build your serverbank as big as you want, you still be one of many, holding only copys/parts.

[@Seanitzel]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3m9qpSrpb6dj9E Here he dives deep into all of those details.

[@shivanshsharma4276]

Guys dont forget what happened to pied piper we cant let that happen again.....

[@SaItyStudios]

bro decentralized and multiple nodes this is the future

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Not really. P2P solutions for storage already exist.

[@515ventures3]

Just a few months ago in early 2019, I was talking to my mom while we were driving in the car and I said something about a certain subject with my phone shut off, and once I turned my phone on I went to either Google or Facebook and started to see ads for that thing we were talking about. It freaked me out! 😳😳😳 I never typed anything in my phone. It was in sleep mode and I was verbally talking out loud.

[@captainmemelord4978]

Big brother is watching you.

[@coolyellowskeleton]

android phone with an open source android fork would fix this. graphineos, E, etc

[@nixtoshi]

You probably previously searched for the topic or browsed related information without realizing it, on that device, or another which is connected to your online identity, like in a facebook or google owned product (ie youtube, instagram). To be honest, I don't think that an ad related to what you are thinking about is bad, i think it's actually better than an unrelated ad

[@coolyellowskeleton]

@@nixtoshi yes, if you stay on an add for .1 seconds longer than normal then that will be accounted for but you should be wary of this. RELATED ADS ARENT BETTER, THEY MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS!!

[@californiapoontappa]

Happens all the time

[@veiserexab1428]

I wish I could build something like these

[@tux_the_astronaut]

A pi a day keeps the corporation’s away

[@bidav2114]

Nice one😂

[@thevillageidiot1655]

Imagine how fast it would be without ads alone .

[@coolyellowskeleton]

ublock origin is waiting for you

[@user-fq6ul6ve8j]

Decentralization is the future for the people, centralization is the future for the oligarchs

[@gamereditor59ner22]

I bought a raspberry pi and it is awesome!!!! Probably buy a radio transmission in the near future.

[@gamereditor59ner22]

@Douglas Roper Basic encryption on the python, for an example password generator, username generator, and hopefully octaPI( eight raspberry pi work together as a server) in the future.

[@SaItyStudios]

@@gamereditor59ner22 thats what im saying all my friends thought i was stupid i legit said this bro

[@okamijubei]

I'm thinking of that for a long time. Why have some corporate organization or stranger keep all the data in elsewhere while you could make your own server at home.

[@coolyellowskeleton]

raspberry pi and nextcloud is a great option

[@TIPSFIN]

So how do you keep google and amazon away from this new decentralized net of yours?

[@SaItyStudios]

you have full control over the nodes you own

[@emlo40]

@@SaItyStudios soo dose google the issue is they provide there's as a service to others because its easier for consumers to pay for something rather than building it themselves

[@Jr-fm2ye]

I go to school with my phone next thing I know a friend pops up on it

[@bahatipatrick212]

Its now 2023...where is it now?

[@alvegutt42]

cant wait for the day this becomes the norm

[@capincrunch1184]

What’s the upload and download speed of a network like that

[@robot2.0chitti46]

Minimum - 1MB/S, Maximum - 1GB/S

[@pulldancer2290]

0:20 Whats that Sheldon left on the wall ?...

[@smangalisomhlongo5707]

How can we contribute ?

[@juliemignard8448]

Um, maybe web is the right word, you know what a web is? It's a sticky thing prey gets caught in until the owner of the web gets around to eating it.

[@zeynand4039]

Could I use the dWeb? How can I get it? How does it work?

[@coolyellowskeleton]

by dweb i assume you mean dark web, the darkweb are just tor hidden services. tor is built to mask your ip adress but doesnt support file storage, video hosting.

[@hantzleyaudate7697]

smh, this segment is hella disrespectful to the legendary Sir Tim Berners-Lee, who has a startup called Inrupt that aims to do the same thing. ASK HIM

[@RuilinLinRyan]

So instead of storing my web app’s data on AWS, I would store it with his service across many consumer devices? Wouldn’t that compromise security (physical access) and wouldn’t that still be centralized through his system? It’ll be on different machines but same service, just like existing servers today (e.g Google Cloud can store ur web app data on various machines at various data centers around the world)

[@lanzibangli1259]

You might want to check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-ufp6OZdaGabs

[@coolyellowskeleton]

data would be encrypted and private. and its not "his service" once he releases it

[@SaItyStudios]

you need to to do more research you obviously dont understand much love brother

[@averydee5328]

@@SaItyStudiosWhat? It’s exactly as he said?

[@averydee5328]

@@coolyellowskeletonyou use big tech web servers or use some other persons web servers but this time they promise not to look at your data? How is that different?

[@aleins01]

👍

[@anthrmthrfckr]

The real Richard Hendricks

[@blockassets32]

Web 3.0 here we come...

[@thexdesk4341]

#Freeism

[@zachhatfield]

sounds good, but can we really eliminate the ISPs completely, or just partially?

[@issacharbryant6606]

they made it

[@Michachel]

The only tech company I trust is Bachmanity LLC

[@djsaekrakem3608]

Your not a dream dude! you are a realist and are able to see problems!

[@jyuviolegrace8144]

Didn't see jin yang here..

[@brawlex5]

Who searched descentralized internet after seeing Pied Piper Show? :)

[@ryx5380]

2 years later...so where is it? 😅

[@blackrockcity]

For one thing, raspberry pi computers shot up in price. They are more affordable now.

[@scottwhite115]

Elastos.

[@thepr0m3th3an]

Urbit is the solution

[@KimarShabbaz]

Web 3

[@BenBRockN]

No one here is talking about security. The problem that will have to be faced is still the same on the internet -- there's inherent trust that whatever device you are connecting to (router, server, friend's laptop, etc) is safe, and virus free, and won't steal your bank credentials, and doesn't contain very illegal things like CP. How is the "Everyman" going to invest in security in a decentralized model?

[@coolyellowskeleton]

monero is a good example of what is possible

[@blackrockcity]

Peer to peer encryption is the answer. It already exists as https. It’s not perfect though.

[@user-er3yo5cp2g]

Utopia Ecosystem is the best way to stay in safe and anonyous! Join

[@gerbilkill]

Dude please make a real web that they can't controll 😅

[@Strav9]

Nuclear bombs can power cities?

[@suyashbhardwaj3419]

Nuclear technology. I hope he means that.

[@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un]

Anyone else think it was possible a girl speaking at first?

[@edstar83]

No.

[@totomess2002]

uuhh, indeed, maners missed the web

[@fgrion]

I don't know what their idea really is, however I must say that when you don't go through the big names or brands, chances are you don't get the real thing. they talk about doing something like napster…: first of all napster was giving for free things that were meant to be paid, moreover, in many case it took days to download. I think this sounds more like going one step back than one step forward. they blame on internet monopolies as if when you go on google your research is slow and doesn't give the result you expect: it's actually the opposite. 20 years ago there were so many browsers, but most of them were good only for certain things.

[@fgrion]

@Douglas Roper hm I think you don't get the point. centralisation and standardisation are what people want. Why when you look for a hotel you check your reviews on a few specialized websites like trip advisor? because you know the name and you know it has a great reputation. now, seriously would you prefer leaving your pictures on a PC of someone you don't know and I guess as soon as they will create this peer to peer network there will be some hacking software so all your data can be taken?

[@fgrion]

@Douglas Roper I think you don't get it. when you book the hotel, where do you book it from? and where do you check the reviews?

[@automatescellulaires8543]

Are you like, too young for having experienced what the world wide web was ? I mean early google was so much better at finding real information. Facebook was so much better at connecting people. It's really like comparing a Democracy, with the dystopian 1984 society. Of course 1984 people find it the only and best society there is.

[@216Numbskull]

@@fgrion Who are these people besides you that want a centralized internet? And you think Tripadvisor is societies standard of a trusted reputation? Sorry! I don't think you get it? Obviously you never heard of for example "The Shed" which was rated the no.1 restaurant in London due to Tripadvisor ranking "The Shed" at the top spot on their site. LMAO Plus, what do you mean "as soon as" a P2P network is created will all be hacked taking all of our data? You honestly don't believe all of your data (liberty & security) isn't already being stolen by (MAGA FT) the big 6 tech companies as well as others? GTFOH !!!

[@fgrion]

@@216Numbskull cherry picking examples.... you can even go back to decentralized internet and after a couple of years... we go back to (maybe other) internet monopolies. as you are so clever, why are you watching this video on youtube and not on some independent streaming website? think about it genius.

[@jamescarrico1233]

dWeb More like DWEEB amirite? Lol nah jk This is a good idea

[@vincentpham7445]

github please :)

[@natnaelteferi]

gun.eco

[@honeycookie4575]

to understand what decentralization and complete anonymity are, you need to use the utopia ecosystem

[@emlo40]

The Internet is decentralised that's why it's a Web this is just a privacy and monopoly concern. The fact you can host a server from home proves that the Internet is decentralised, if you really wana decentralise destroy isp's and realise its impossible afterwards.

[@SL4RK]

No you can't, if you are behind NAT and a gray IP, it is not possible, for example if you live in a rural area and the only way to access the internet is via satellite or mobile internet.

[@emlo40]

@@SL4RK if you have ipv4 you will always be behind a NAT that’s why we have port forwarding. Both satellites and cellular towers only give you private IPs, you can in fact still host on them but you need to use IPv6 instead as all IPv6 addresses are public ip addresses, but IPv6 isn’t compatible with ipv4 so anyone who doesn’t have IPv6 won’t be able to connect and you would have to hope that your isp doesn’t have firewall rules against the ports you want to use

[@SL4RK]

@@emlo40 The only problem is that IPV6 is provided by a small number of mobile operators, I would say it is rare, at least where I live, so it's not really possible to do it except using workarounds like VPN connections.

[@fishypugbruh]

Ethereum is mega soy and a gimmick, This is why I like GUN and IPFS

[@mikeisrite]

I don't believe that a new trick

[@DeshaunIsAmazing]

Or we could just ban corporate ISP's from owning the infrastructure in your town or state and have your city or state create a competing internet service that is faster and respects your data.....like over 750 communities in the US and growing: www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3np4a/new-municipal-broadband-map

[@coolyellowskeleton]

that is not a solution

[@chingatumadregoogle1344]

We need dyoutube

[@ivovicente9811]

its called d.tube

[@coolyellowskeleton]

or lbry

[@adrianamanjarrez1435]

YES!!!!!!! VOICES OF REASON HURRAY! LET'S DO THIS! like the og l.a. freenet collective...gone but not forgotten

[@milekragulj325]

Nice but utopia and lack of knowledge. How are you going to do search or translation.

[@blackrockcity]

AI

[@englishmajor100]

Real technologists don't use Apple computers.

[@AnuragSharma-rq2tp]

englishmajor100 real technologist don’t use Windows

[@herikaniugu]

Real technologists use their own OS

[@automatescellulaires8543]

Real technologist build there own quantum computer out of scrap of discarded old cars.

[@blackrockcity]

Silly comment. Username checks out.

[@L1nkn1vy]

So, how is this different from regular peer to peer... This sounds like he's trying to pitch tor

[@ephemeralvapor8064]

It was mentioned in the video that it's basically the same as p2p sharing ... Unlike many prominent p2p platforms, this is basically 1 version of the general p2p systems vying for popular public\market traction.

[@edstar83]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYS8pGaLo9CIjpI kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2aUfoaBa9OGh6c

[@hoofgripweightlifting6872]

Excellent video. That’s why I invented in cryptos Theta and Theta Fuel. They will power decentralized Internet.

[@rakeemrobinson]

Wrong

[@kert87653]

Isn't that just the dark web?

[@coolyellowskeleton]

the dark web just means it is accessed through TOR (tor is a great protocol and is not illegal in the slightest in most places).

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

The internet will always have trolls and hackers, nothing will ever change this unless your Thanos and you snap that half of the world away...

[@doctorbigsmiles]

NucUlear nuQUElear.... NewwwQueeeeLuurrrrrrr.... Omg

[@donaldharlan3981]

Mark Nadal has some interesting philosophical ideas of how the internet should be, but does not live in the real world. There is many reasons why these ideas are unsafe, unsecure, unsane. These tech companies do not own the internet, they are the best product of it. In a liberal/socialistic episode he would have ruined it. I would prognosticate that there is other motivations for his incursions against these tech companies.

[@dj_deftone_559]

Exactly! Well put brotha!

[@automatescellulaires8543]

" they are the best product of it" as long as best don't focus on user, and only on making money you are so right. The new Disney Starwars are also the best : making a lot of money without the cost and risk of creativity.

[@SL4RK]

I hope after all this time, you enjoy consuming AI content and enjoy a search where the first few results are scam.

[@homer_thompson5090]

You'd think by advocating an internet that cheap, he could afford a hair cut.

[@thechoosen4240]

Good job bro, JESUS IS COMING BACK VERY SOON;PREPARE

[@RdozeTV]

That girl looks like a guy

[@evannix2285]

this guy thinks he is richard hendricks