Building My NFR Forte !!! | Kia Cerato Forte | NeedForRide

[@robertmoore119]

The car looks alot nicer than stock if your the tuner type. I plan to work with a 2017 model car sometime soon. You mentioned the front end pushing around corners. You also said you lowered the front .5 inches more and dialed up the compression on the rear to resolve the issue. That method does work. Most front drive cars wheel alignment is adjusted to provide a front end push at limits for safety reasons. It communicates to the driver that the cornering speed is too high, and the driver should slow down. For performance driving, a little push in the front is ok in a rear drive car, as it can be overcome with throttle input. Not the same in a front drive car. The changes you made resolved your pushing issue, but you also mentioned ride harshness associated with the coil over setup. When you lowered the front of the car more than the back, you reduced Caster at the front wheel, reducing Caster has the effect of making bumps more pronounced. But you provided more weight bias over the front tires, which reduced push. Increasing compression in the back of the car also provides pressure to the front tires, which can also help to reduce understeer. But also makes the ride more harsh. You can also reduce understeer by changing the wheel alignment to a more racing style alignment, but not recommended with your current setup. I recommend removing the rake, to increase caster, (reduces harshness), and dialing back the compression in the rear shocks. That would mean you would have the closer to factory ride. So it would be smoother over bumps. Unfortunately the front end understeer would return. To resolve the understeer issue without creating a harsh ride, increase toe. Adding positive toe at the front end will reduce understeer. Ensure the camber is within spec, lowering the car can increase camber, which reduced rubber on the road. Camber bolts are available to restore camber. A racing alignment shop can perform the work and confirm my advice. But there is a balance between enough steering and tire wear.

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Robert Moore, that's a great write up. I will consider those suggestions and thanks for the tips given too..

[@WORMGERM]

Dude didn't even take the calipers off to paint them and did it in a parking lot. That's awesome

[@NeedForRide]

Yea bro... It's a quick job. Unless it's sprayed by workshop, probably they will take everything apart..

[@Araux64]

Hello friend, I've noticed that you have knowledge about vehicle modifications, especially regarding the Kia Forte. I recently purchased a very similar one, and like you, it's my first car. Mine is a Kia Forte 2013 Ex. My first planned modification is to change the tires. It comes from the factory with R15 195/65, but I would like to install R17. I've seen that R17 225/45 is compatible, but I've also noticed that you have a very similar model and you're using R215/45. Is there a specific reason for this, or were the factory tires on your car different? I'm concerned that there might be some issues with the ABS system or the vehicle's performance.

[@hz6494]

I have a 2.0 Forte and the previous owner changed the tire size to thicker 215/50R17. I am not sure if the car stock handling is bad or if its caused by the thicker tire size. I was told the stock rims are easily deformed when going potholes therefore some people changed to thicker tires, have you heard of this?

[@NeedForRide]

Stock tire on our 17 inch rim should be 215/45/R17. Anything above or below will make your speedo reading inaccurate.. It's best to stick with the stock profile.. Unless you're running on 16 inch rims, then you will need to use 50' profile tires.. Stock rims are heavy duty and also alot heavier, I don't think it will deform so easily.. 😁

[@kahyong273]

Nice ride bro! Able to advise on where you changed your front car plate? Own a cerato forte too and the original one looks ugly compared to yours haha 🤣

[@NeedForRide]

Hi bro. Thanks. Those are acrylic plates and I got it from one of the shop in UBI area opposite Traffic Police HQ.. 😊

[@ChangYL88]

Are you planning to change your audio player to Apple CarPlay? I’m a Forte owner too, just renewed 5 years coe. Like your video so much, very detailed 👍

[@NeedForRide]

Hi touchNgo, I would say Forte is a great car and pretty reliable to own. I'm not really into In-Car Entertainment so probably not planning to upgrade my audio player. Thanks for watching bro. 😊

[@haridwiekas4891]

Hello nfr, do you know what suspension similar with this forte, eg like this car can use other car suspension ? Because it's hard to find aftermarket brand for forte in Indonesia

[@NeedForRide]

Hi 👋 If I'm not wrong, there's no other car's coilovers that is compatible with our cars. Our coilovers are only mend for 2009 to 2014 Kia Forte and Kia Koup. Maybe you can try and ship it from overseas?

[@haridwiekas4891]

@@NeedForRide thanks friend , btw keep update for your forte progression channel I'm so inspired n helped. Sorry if my English bad 😞

[@NeedForRide]

@@haridwiekas4891 Sure bro.. Glad that you like and enjoy watching it too. 😁

[@Capo8758]

How much did you low the car? I bought the Springs that is 1.5" lowering. I need to know how is gonna be the look.

[@NeedForRide]

I lowered for about 2.5 - 3" down.. Ride height are adjustable with coilovers... Lowering spring with 1.5" lowering will leave 1 - 1.5" wheel gap between the tires and fenders. It still pretty nice though.. 😁

[@Capo8758]

@@NeedForRide Nice, I don't have the money for coilovers so I invested in springs, but I think is gonna look awesome. Thanx for the fast replies as always.

[@NeedForRide]

@@Capo8758 Yes bro. Lowering springs are the cheaper alternative to lower your car.. Enjoy your new mods. 😊

[@maxsoon6708]

Bro.. May i know how do you make your brake caliper have the word FORTE at it. Looks cool.. Mind sharing how u do it?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Max Soon, it's just a custom made decals bro.

[@Riverside2500]

Where you get the rims/wheels from, they look amazing!!

[@NeedForRide]

Thanks. I gotten those Asga Racing rims from the local wheel shop, LS Tyres & Automotive. They've wide variety of rims and tires too..

[@mjmadronero6495]

How much is the BC coilover for this car?

[@NeedForRide]

I bought it at $1300 with installation.. Now the price should be around $1500. 😊

[@ridwanibrahim1393]

Hey just curious what kinda mod have u done for performance to date ya? Just took out my 12yo forte a week back..

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Ridwan.. Till date, I only had aftermarket drop-in filter, customized intake air duct and oil catch can.. I wanted to send my car for tuning but I don't think there will be huge difference in terms of performance. 😁

[@ridwanibrahim1393]

@@NeedForRide ah.. i see.. likewise i also change air filter to knn.. goin to remap my ecu soon. Perhaps u should too bro.. i did to my previous 3 rides with Supertuned found in fb. Go check him out bro. Denning wont disappoint u. Better acceleration, optimal fc..

[@NeedForRide]

@@ridwanibrahim1393 Congrats on your new ride bro. 👍🏻 Let me know how it feels after remap. 😁

[@asimo39]

Alamak bro i thought you go leong seng buy authentic ze40😆🙏 nice video btw..

[@NeedForRide]

Haha... Indeed they look very similar.. I love multi spokes wheel.. 😍😍😍

[@Nvhfilms]

should have upgraded the brakes too! nice video :)

[@NeedForRide]

Probably one day when I've the chance to hit the track, I might consider upgrading my stock braking system to those BBK. 😊😊😊

[@unclegood]

Thanks for your videos! I am considering a new 5 year COE car too. Do you have any views on Nissan sylphy, Chevy Cruze, Toyota Altis and Kia Forte? I am thinking which one I should get.

[@NeedForRide]

Thanks for watching bro!! Nissan Sylphy: I can't comment because I've never drive it before. Chevrolet Cruze: Pro 👉 Great on highway driving because of it's chassis design. It's stable and "Less Float" so it feels like driving a continental car. Con 👉 Slow on city driving, because it weighs at 1350KG, pretty heavy for a 1.6cc car.. My dad use to drive a Chevrolet Cruze, pick up and fuel consumption (8 - 9KM/Litre) are not that fantastic unless you are looking at the 1.4cc Turbo then that would be a different story. Toyota Altis: Pro 👉 Great on fuel consumption, one of the most reliable Japanese car and spare parts are easy to source. Con 👉 Cost price is high and the yearly depreciation will burn your pocket. Kia Forte: Pro 👉 Cost price is low and the spart parts aren't expensive. Furthermore you will never get boring with the design. Con 👉 It would be great if the manufacturer are able to increase the horsepower just by a little bit but still It's pretty sufficient to drive around in the city especially in Singapore. Fuel consumption isn't great too (9 - 10KM/Litre) End of the day It's all about individual preferences. There are too many things to consider, e.g. Reliability, Cost and Looks. Visit the car dealer and test drive all the cars you mentioned above, get the feel of it and you will never go wrong with your feeling. Enjoy your new ride bro. 💪💪💪

[@unclegood]

@@NeedForRide Thanks for your reply, it is extremely helpful!

[@ZhongLiangOng]

@@unclegood One more reason to get the Forte 1.6A SX - it's the only option with electronic stability control (not sure about the cruze). Saw the ESC disable button in the OP's video at the 1:29 mark

[@alepeeraah]

Hi bro. How low do u setup ur coilovers? Awesome ride bro!

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Alepeeraah, thanks for watching.. Right now I'm driving with Front 0.5 Finger Wheel Gap and Rear 1 Finger Wheel Gap.

[@alepeeraah]

@@NeedForRide wow that is low. Awesome! Can pass inspection for that low?

[@NeedForRide]

@@alepeeraah Can.. I just passed my inspection last week.. As long as any part of the car doesn't touches the ground at any point of time, you're fine. 😃😃😃

[@alepeeraah]

@@NeedForRide tq soo much fr replying bro! Appreciate it.

[@jarrylng9514]

nice ride bro. i just bought mine 1 month ago. just only finished changing up all the stuff too. are u gonna go tune up ?? just got my headunit for 500sgd 4gb ram 64gb memory but in malaysia. tio the lockdown jam when coming out HAHA

[@NeedForRide]

Hi JaRRyL Ng, Congrats on your new ride ! 😊 I'm not really into In Car Entertainment System thus not considering getting that but probably some performance stuff which coming up in my next video. Please stay tune... 😆😆😆

[@jaypt00]

hey man, just a few questions. 1) was your stock wheel nuts used on your new set of rims? 2) how is the ride of bc coilovers. is it too stiff and bumpy for daily use? (i do a lot of driving everyday) 3) does coilovers need to be serviced? and if so, how often and how much? appreciate you replying, thanks!

[@NeedForRide]

Hi jptuaz, 1) The stock wheel nuts were changed out because it's not compatible with the aftermarket wheels. 2) Coilovers are not comfortable as stock suspension. If you are looking for comfort, stick with stock suspension. Right now my setup for dampering is front 26 click, Rear 26 click, preload is stock setting from factory, ride height (Wheel and fender) is front 0.5 finger rear 1 finger. The ride is very stiff and harsh.. 3) I've been using my current set of coilvers for 1.5 years.. It's still running great. Some people says coilovers need to be service for every 3 to 4 years and also it really depends on your usage (aggressive driving etc). So whats your ultimate aim for changing to coilovers?

[@jaypt00]

NeedForRide thanks for you reply, as i drive a lot of mileage everyday, i would not want it to be crashy and of course i’m going for looks and also handling. so i’m torn between eibach/vogtland lowering springs or coilovers. i heard that coils can be livable if you set it up right and get it corner balanced right? btw saw you at sle today at around noon haha!

[@NeedForRide]

@@jaypt00 Go for coilovers bro if budget is not a constraint.. Lowering spring will wear out your absorber alot faster and making it weaker.. I'm not sure about coilovers setup for comfort but coilovers definitely harsher compared to stock. 😊

[@NeedForRide]

@@jaypt00 SLE heading towards BKE or TPE?

[@AfiqAbiden]

Bro....how much you get that akrapovic tip?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi afiq abiden, I got it for $140.00. Are you looking one for your ride?

[@AfiqAbiden]

@@NeedForRide yaa...i'm looking for it. Issit universal?

[@NeedForRide]

@@AfiqAbiden They are universal. But welding might be required. Drop by the workshop as they are able to advise you better..

[@yichungggg]

Where did you do your caliper spray?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi yichungggg, it's a freelancer from Carousell.. 😊

[@yichungggg]

NeedForRide can share the name? 🙂

[@NeedForRide]

@@yichungggg Andytay95

[@belugea]

What are your current coilover damping settings and how much harsher is the ride compared to stock? Do you have problems with carparks and speed bumps?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Belugea, initially the damping was Front 20 / Rear 16 and tire pressure was Front 37psi / Rear 33psi.. Back then my forte understeer at the entry of corner, so I increase the rear damping (Up another 2 level), lower down the front ride height by 1/2 inch and increase rear tire pressure by 1psi which means the new setup for damping is Front 20/ Rear 18, tire pressure is Front 37psi / Rear 34psi and the car "Turn In" really well at the corner.. After fine tuning the car handling, now the latest setting I'm running on for damping is Front 26 / Rear 24, tire pressure is Front 37psi / Rear 34psi and the rear end slip slightly (Oversteer) at the "Mid Corner".. I have resolved that by installing a wing to increase more rear end grip.. Comfort Level: 1 to 10 Stock is 1. Coilover is 7-8. (Depends on your damper setting) It would not hit 10 "As long as you don't replace it with a higher spring rate or increase the preload" I have no issue with most of the bumps but on certain 'steep' ramps/slopes, I will be scraping my undercarriage.. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the coilovers on my forte. If handling is what you are looking for, go and get the coilover install.. Enjoy your ride.. 😊

[@belugea]

@@NeedForRide Nice, enjoy your ride! What offset and width are you running for your wheels?

[@NeedForRide]

@@belugea Wheel offset is 42 and tires are 215/45/17..

[@mrrare5590]

How much fuel consumption?

[@NeedForRide]

I'm getting about average 10KM/L.. The worst FC was 8KM/L. Really depends on individual's driving habit.

[@faizalzainal4038]

Bro, how much do u pay to spray ur caliper? How to contact the guy? Im interested

[@NeedForRide]

Andytay95 from Carousell. Last year I did all 4 brake calipers for $80.. But now I'm not sure what's the current price. Check him out on Carousell. 😊

[@faizalzainal4038]

@@NeedForRide thanks bro

[@manyiman6883]

what did you do to your hub bore to fit the spacer?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Many Iman, those wheel spacers are universal but they are too big for the wheel hub. So a metal ring has been install in between the wheel hub and the wheel spacers for a good fitment..

[@haiqaljohn8158]

Hi, how much did u pay for the rims & tyres?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Haiqal Johan, I got it both at about $1100.

[@badamssaid8287]

hi what is your front and rear spring rate for this coilover?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi badams said, front is 6kg and rear is 4kg..

[@badamssaid8287]

@@NeedForRide so far what are you current damper setting? is it comfort and no bumpy?

[@NeedForRide]

@@badamssaid8287 Damping Front 26 Clicks and Rear 24 Clicks now. Maximum is 30 clicks. Having a coilovers, no matter if you are riding on 1 Click or 30 Clicks, there is no difference in terms of comfort because the spring rate and damper are being setup much more harder than stock and it will make your ride more harsh.. You only adjust the damping when you are fine tuning your car handling. Are you looking for comfort or car handling?

[@badamssaid8287]

@@NeedForRide im looking for comfort for my daily ride and not bumpy. is it ok if im using coilover for comfort ride?

[@NeedForRide]

@@badamssaid8287 Then stick with stock suspension bro. If you want the lowered look and comfort, you might want to consider lowering spring instead. With lowering spring, your car might bottom out (Suspension reaches it's full travel) on big bumps/humps especially on full load.

[@yoonweijie6411]

any rims brands to introduce that are not REP?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Yoon Wei Jie, there're many brands in the market and also authentic or replica ones. It's best to head down to the wheels shop to have a look personally and pick your favourite colour and design which match your car...

[@kardon]

hi, is yours 5 or 10 years extend COE?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Kardon, mine is 5 years renewed when I bought it.. 😊

[@kardon]

thanks for the reply, your upgrades look awesome!

[@a.lambert234]

Just curious to know how much that costed.. cuz I want my forte to be that cute !

[@NeedForRide]

Hi. Which parts are you referring to?

[@a.lambert234]

@@NeedForRide the whole suspension and wheel job

[@NeedForRide]

@@a.lambert234 BC Racing Coilover $1350. 4 Wheels including tires $1100 to $1200. Spraying of brake calipers $80.

[@a.lambert234]

@@NeedForRide did you feel a good difference in the handling afterward? Cuz thats a sick upgrade!

[@NeedForRide]

@@a.lambert234 Yes definitely! Especially when taking corners at really high speed. Lesser bodyroll and not bouncy at all which makes the ride more planted on the road. Handling improve BUT of course in the exchange of comfort because you will feel every bumps and potholes on the road. Only upgrade your suspension when you love to play corners 😍😍😍

[@yongkw5022]

Rim size?

[@NeedForRide]

17 Inch 7.5JJ Offset 42

[@ronsu2677]

why don't you go for a 2.0 version . than spending on all these

[@NeedForRide]

Hi ron su, 2.0 Litre Version are much more expensive and of course have to factor in the yearly road taxes and insurance premium too...

[@area51aruba]

what spacers did you use for the rear?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi area51aruba, it's a 5mm universal wheel spacer.. It really look great by making the wheel flush with the fender... 😊

[@area51aruba]

@@NeedForRide awesome !! Did you use in the front as well or just the rear?

[@NeedForRide]

@@area51aruba I only use it for the rear as the front fit perfect without the use of wheel spacer..

[@area51aruba]

@@NeedForRide thank you !! I'm getting ready to upgrade my rims and tires also this information is very helpful!!

[@mohdhafiz3061]

Sportrim what size?

[@mohdhafiz3061]

16 or 17

[@NeedForRide]

@@mohdhafiz3061 17 Inch bro.

[@xxphantom187xx7]

Are you selling your stock rims? I’m interested

[@NeedForRide]

Hi XXPHANTOM 187XX, No bro. I trade in my stock wheels with the wheel shop..

[@dondificationify]

How much you got the coilovers for?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Tyler Lim, I got it for $1350.00 including installation and full alignment.. BC Racing Coilover are amazing !! No regrets..

[@dondificationify]

Damm, that price was more or less what i expected. Was planning to lower my cerato when i get it after seeing your video haha. And is that seletar airport the roundabout? You stay near seletar?

[@NeedForRide]

@@dondificationify Lowered ride definitely look alot better but in the exchange of comfort. Yes. You are right. It's a perfect place for filming...

[@mohdhafiz3061]

Whell what size

[@NeedForRide]

Wheel Size 17 Inch.

[@terrychoo5940]

How's your forte ride ?

[@NeedForRide]

So far so good.. Still enjoying it though. 😆😆😆

[@terrychoo5940]

@@NeedForRide I am.getting forte soon to

[@NeedForRide]

@@terrychoo5940 Congrats Terry.. Which year model?

[@terrychoo5940]

@@NeedForRide I am aiming for 1.6 EX 2009

[@NeedForRide]

@@terrychoo5940 Alright bro.. Have it inspect before purchase.. Make sure the car is in the great running condition.. 😊

[@토마토-e1o1k]

Good🙋

[@NeedForRide]

Thanks for watching. 😊

[@조성태-p1v]

Kia forte is my car.😋😋

[@NeedForRide]

Good to hear that. Indeed Kia Forte is one of the most beautiful car...

[@xiaosen23]

Bro ur rims how much?

[@NeedForRide]

The whole setup cost me about $1000++..

[@clifftan1316]

manual n renew coe?

[@NeedForRide]

Hi cliff tan, it's an automatic transmission and I regretted not getting the manual one. Haha.. It's 5 years renewed COE.

[@clifftan1316]

Auto gearbox take care more if u go track..

[@NeedForRide]

@@clifftan1316 Definitely bro. Planning to track my NFR Forte one day after the whole Covid-19 pandemic is over.. 😊

[@MikeyCruise]

Nice car sia. I also just bought a 2009 forte. And I also find the stock rims very ugly. Hahaha

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Mikey Cruiserian, Thanks for watching.. Congrats on your new ride.. Forte is really a fun car to drive.. I believe you were in the Classic Forte Group right?

[@MikeyCruise]

NeedForRide hey yes just joined few days back! Hahaha. Are you inside too?

[@NeedForRide]

@@MikeyCruise Yes. I'm in the group.. I recognised your name as I find it unique. Thats why I remember it's you. Haha.. 😊😊😊

[@MikeyCruise]

NeedForRide hahaha thanks!! which one is you?

[@NeedForRide]

@@MikeyCruise You say 'Hi' in the group.. I will acknowledge it.. 😁

[@Andrewsautofreakz]

I’m a Kia Forte owner myself . Looking for more ideas to mod my car. Maybe suspension is a good idea. Keep the videos coming. Do check out my channel if any of mine would help u✌️

[@NeedForRide]

Glad we both have the same ride.. Can't deny our Kia Forte is one of the sick looking car. I'm sure we both love it !!!

[@PJ20230]

The car look good but ... why a automatic car ??!! Manual was bether

[@NeedForRide]

Hi Off road Qc, thanks bro.. Initially when I bought this car, I decided to buy a Automatic Transmission so that my wife is able to drive it too. But now, I regretetd for not getting the Manual Transmission car because Manual car is fun !