BUILDING THE MOST EXPENSIVE SLED I CAN

[@SlipperyDucky]

Trucks are all 100K + now, houses are 400k+ Sleds being 25K is all relevant. We keep asking for better handling, more power, smart screens, gps tracking, less weight. Well guess what they gave it to us and it's going to cost us. Well Polaris and Skidoo gave it to us. Arctic Cat is stuck in 2012 somewhere holding onto the Alpha Rail for dear life....

[@208SledHead]

Came here to echo everything you just said.

[@lucahoganyt4435]

Arctic Cat has reliability on their side. And the fact that Yamaha helps them out. As soon as they lose reliability, they're done. The Alpha rail is genius though

[@SlipperyDucky]

@@lucahoganyt4435 Reliability? I would hope so going on 11 years on that chassis should be bulletproof. If the Alpha Rail was "genius" the others would of adapted it but they havent. Same reason Arctic Cat dosent have Alpha rail t motion. T motion was not genius just cause Ski Doo held onto it forever dosent make it "genius"

[@lucahoganyt4435]

@@SlipperyDucky The Alpha is actually genius though. Off trail. Obviously ona trail it's gonna handle like shit. But Arctic Cat is literally the answer to all of this. They're simple, reliable, they work well, look nice, lightweight. And they don't cost more than a car. And the fact that they haven't changed the chassis in 10 years is actually a good thing because you can always find parts for them. And there's nothing wrong with that chassis, so why change it?

[@bobmun_9587]

@@lucahoganyt4435 almost everything u said was wrong, their not reliable at all, they dont work well, they are not lightweight compared to other brands, tunnels weak as fuuck, and power is shiit

[@chrisborns5972]

Thank you for acknowledging this moment being the peak of 2-stroke power plants. It is obvious, and incredibly unpopular which is why I am impressed you put it out there. Going on record as hating 4-strokes.

[@andrews2203]

2strokes will advance more in the future

[@mobilewintercamp7515]

The thought of four stroke longevity is tempting to me at 50 years old and slowing down at trail riding. The new Polaris four stroke is 90 hp and 100 pounds heavier than the two strokes. No thanks. Even if they up the hp with a turbo I’m not dealing with an extra 100 pounds.

[@stevem7923]

@@mobilewintercamp7515 I went from 4 stroke to two stroke and do not regret it at all. It’s nice to not be fatigued at the end of the day. 4 stroke is fine on nicely groomed trails but you really notice the weight in sub prime conditions.

[@mobilewintercamp7515]

@@stevem7923 ha! I was thinking the same thing. On some of the trails in prime condition it’s probably ok. On the roller coaster trails or in bumps whenever a lot of body movement is necessary it probably really starts to be different. Thanks

[@mikehd3904]

@Mobile Winter Camp as a guy who's fatigued alot already from m.s. There's NO way I'd want MORE weight

[@mcats8]

It's insane, prices are way up and riding season is becoming less and less. I use to ride almost 7 months a season in the Sierras because we had the snow. Now, we get half the snow, half the rides, makes no sense to buy a new sled every 2-3 years. Only a few places left in N. America that consistently get good winters, so it seems.

[@pressuredup]

I went and priced out a 2022 Ford Maverick yesterday. It started at $34000 Canadian. Snowmobiles are way overpriced for something you use 4 months of the year. They are pricing themselves out of peoples disposable income. All power sports markets are going to feel the crunch as inflation increases.

[@strankelemen4052]

We need to go back to the time when a 600 2 stroke was a big motor

[@BairdBoysAdventures]

Seen on snowest someone posted an invite they recieved for arctic cats dealer webinar on friday the 11th

[@peterlindsay2869]

I think a project slide is the way to go. Something a few years older you can get parts normally pretty reasonable and you can build something very capable. Yes I know I’m not gonna have all the bells and whistles that today’s machines do. But do we really really need half of that stuff? Shocks that self adjust really !!!! don’t think we need that lol

[@sylfixplayz2142]

Cheers and still riding my 2016 800R etec 163 X-T3 summit and I have no plans to buy anything newer than a rev-XM. I'm going to be riding this damn thing when there's more electric sleds than 2 strokes on the mountain out of stubborness

[@themeach011]

This summer I bought a year old alpha with a belt drive, running board upgrade, upgraded bars, mountain can, wrap, tunnel bag, extra track, extra belts. sled only had 500 miles on it for $15k. I was pretty happy with that.

[@two_toned_rooster]

I snowchecked an rmk boost this year, I was split between Polaris and doo but I’ve been looking over the fence from doo for a few years and I decided to try the polaris for my step into turbos. Anyway I was comparing the 155/154, turbo, short tunnel, E start (I think doo would only let me select shot), fancy display. The skidoo was a couple G’s more due to shot start being $1000cad+ and the $2500cad for the new display. The rmk I ordered will be $30k out the door with BC taxes and registered and insured in BC. Only extra options I selected were the mini burandt bag, orange color everything, bumper, skid plate. It’s a lot but if your getting a factory cut tunnel turbo big bore sled then what do you expect.

[@farming4g]

$30000 for something that will break the same way as an $18000 machine and loses value at a much faster rate. Good gawd!

[@blaserlongrange7616]

In sweden the boost holds 100% value in second hand 😱

[@sorkpojken]

@@blaserlongrange7616 Yea, all three of them!

[@mikehd3904]

@@blaserlongrange7616 🤔

[@TheBuuurnz]

I've got a 19 rmk but I can't see myself upgrading in the next couple of years, the Gen 5 and Matryx chassis are not huge improvements and having rode with multiple Turbo sleds I'm not overly worried about having the extra power. It really feels like advancements in the market have started to plateau ever since 36" front ends and 3" tracks became standard

[@shmingles7291]

Totally agree Matt. Getting out of hand. Can still get a somewhat deal on a couple year old sleds with under 1000 miles and save $6000-$7000. But my question is what are these used turbos going to be worth in 4-5 years off warranty? Will it be like the old triples back in the day? Oh we’ll sell ya new one but we don’t want them on trade. Good luck.

[@murdered1415]

They'll all be blown up in 2 seasons

[@joedoe6444]

this is why so many are going to the timber sled set up

[@mikehd3904]

🤢🤮

[@stevem7923]

Not regretting buying my 2017 zr6000 in 2018 for $11,500 and 0% financing now. Only regret is not buying 2.

[@Fatonzzz]

I bought two 2018 Axys 155's in 2019 for $12,500 each all-in. At the time I thought I was insane...lol.

[@jasonstaudt5290]

Most the people that can afford the decked out new ones couldn't get off the trail 10-15 years ago. Now they can. I still get to the tops of North Idaho on my 07. That being said, I really need to upgrade.

[@jakebanack3605]

As ridiculous as 25k might seem for a factory sled, it’s not terrible compared to 5 years ago paying $17,000 + $5,500 for an aftermarket turbo and clutching that voids warranty. These turbos make cleaner more reliable power, with 2 years warranty for the same price as most people’s 5 year mods and turbos. You can still buy new N/As for 18,000 but that’s not as exciting.

[@matisvanasse7729]

I think low elevation setup is more expensive than high elevation for the rmk but i'm not sure tho

[@lucahoganyt4435]

Everyone hates on Arctic Cat but I'm seeing a lot of comments in here about how sleds need to "go back to being simple". If you haven't noticed, that's exactly what Cat is doing. All the benefits of a modern sled in terms of handling, suspension, and power, but they're still just simple sleds. Mine is just a regular reliable 800cc motor bolted to a durable 153" skid. Nothing fancy, just something simple that actually works. I also think Polaris was doing well with this until about 2 or 3 years ago. The AXYS Pro RMK 850 was a really nice sled when it wasn't super optioned out. But Polaris had the reliability problem. Either way, I think a lot of people are gonna start switching to Cat soon

[@joelpurves6404]

Just ordered a renegade x 600, did not upgrade or need a gauge that has Bluetooth, I ride the trails with my kids and the 600 is plenty fast enough. Every option added or upgrade jumps the price. $17,775 all said and done.

[@zachattack5214]

Love the way the industry is pushing power to the limits but I’m still perfectly happy with the power of my 21 hardcore

[@matad311]

My big thing is why do we need this fancy gauges! Like am I the only one that dosnt need a touch screen display? Hell I don't know how much data I need to look at on a sled other than RPM, miles and mph. Can we just get back to sleds being simple machines and not with 10 miles of wiring in it just to make it start and ride. I can't see my self ever buying a show room floor new model at 20k. My next sled will be some 2016-2018 sled where the price is more reasonable. Ill way till the bottom falls out in the market and scoop a sled up for cheap.

[@sylfixplayz2142]

I want a normal gauge. You know like my 2016 has. With an rpm and speed gauge with a needle...

[@Fatonzzz]

I like the feature of seeing other riders in real time on the map. Been out in the backcountry separated from group members with a failed radio. Wife and I both carry inReach, but the 7S adds another layer of safety. But if you don't want it you can opt for the standard gauge and save $1200.

[@justinmcmillan2682]

Do you guys go riding anymore?

[@Michael426]

I almost feel over when I got the out the door price for my 2020 25k 🇨🇦 for a VR1 boost in my liking......🤦‍♂️ snowmobiles have come along way buuuut are they really worth the price of a New Honda Civic? 😂

[@jessiebruno9313]

No!

[@starlord6593]

I snow checked a 9R khaos and yup it stings paying that much for it, buuuuuut I still did it and I have a sweet 9R coming...hopefully on time.

[@starlord6593]

By the way I love your guys content and travels to the mountains! Watching you bash round Berta is pretty cool too👍👍

[@Freneticburn]

my new sled was stickered just under $15k. After all the taxes, fees, skids, handguards, proper bumper, etc. it was like $17k 🙁

[@etiennem9415]

There is still a 2020 M6000 Alpha 154 I think at the Cat dealer near me, and for some reason at 12 000$ CAD they still cannot sell it... It's brand new.

[@208SledHead]

It's a 600 though. :-/

[@mikehd3904]

@Uncle Deez bet its reliable though 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TheBreedxxx]

I will keep my 17 pro thank you !!!

[@ryanc8188]

The sad part is the only things that haven't gone absurd on prices is ATVs and some dirt bikes. When an adventure vehicle costs about half as much as my truck and my truck cost just under a 3rd of my house there is something wrong with that picture. I know I won't be buying a snowmobile anytime soon, the only place you can find decent snow in Utah is out in the middle of nowhere high up in the hills.

[@mikehd3904]

Right, seem fucktarded to buy for 25- 30k ,ride it for 3 or 4 years and now its worth 5 -10k at the most 🤷🏽‍♂️, guess a bunch of other people didn't graduate

[@tannercarson9557]

Lol I got the 850 turbo kahos and let me tell yea it will be worth every penny

[@jjwalker2011]

16 AC M8000 Snow Pro for $6500, good deal? 1566 miles.

[@gunnerwilkie4193]

i have a 2 old bravo 250 350 long track haynes east of red deer like with the prices id say get old sleds

[@Brobro449]

I just went on ski doo website and you can build a summit expert with more mods for about 28k before tax and freight to dealer etc. I personally think 28k on doo would be better then on a Polaris. At least you'd be getting good reliably lol. Im good with my 2019 alpha i got for $10500 cdn with 2200km

[@JulianJohanson]

I got my 19 alpha with 30 hours 800 or so km for $9500. Gonna try and make some money now ! Lol

[@208SledHead]

Muskoka's freeride seized with under 200km's on it. His Boost has been ripping all year. There's gen4's getting towed out by Axys' on his channel too. bUT p0LAriS iSn'T rELiAbLe.... foh...

[@Brobro449]

@@208SledHead Ya that cuz it was a factory defect with like 2% of 10000 sleds have tard. Why do polaris motors shit the bed after 2000km when doos make it 10000km and cat make it 5000+km then? Not to mention there shit fuel pump this year, garbage clutches breaking and the quick drive sprockets grenading themselves

[@themeach011]

@@208SledHead I would get annoyed with that low fuel pressure thing cutting out. It happens on almost every video of his.

[@themeach011]

@@208SledHead not saying one is better than the other. I actual own two cats, a Polaris, and skidoo so I'm not brand loyal really. They each have things that are cool about them.

[@scottcraig2569]

I snow-checked a 146 Freeride. $25,500 all in. 🤮 Skidoo added an additional $520 commodity charge on top of everything else. You should have tried to build a summit. The freerides don't have many options.

[@Minty-]

Nuts 🥜

[@Metal666Killz]

A Polaris Matryx boost starts at 29 650$ in Norway, before you put anything on it....So i'm buying a new Cat, even if they aren't releasing anything new. Still 7k cheaper with some add ons.

[@Echoes-]

Who in their right mind would pay even close to 20k for a old outdated Arctic Cat?

[@mikehd3904]

@EightyNine it'll probly still be running after other have been towed,repaired and rebuilt

[@Metal666Killz]

@@Echoes- Got a 18mod hardcore with a few upgrades, still keeps up with the new poo's and doo's...sooooo outdated maybe, but cheaper and still can hold it's own.

[@mikeday5605]

Ski doo expy le SWT Turbo R decked out isn’t shy of 38-40 CAD after tax PDI etc

[@darrellbrown1148]

They are already out of the average person’s price range, I sold my 2013 pro Rmk a couple years ago with 1400 kms on it and had to give it away that was before the price went up on everything and now I can barley afford a evo Rmk, prices are wicked, a used custom sled from burrandt would probably cost less than a factory one now!! lol 😂 oh well glad there’s not a lot of snow this year where I live ! Almost $ 2 / litre for. Gas would kill your weekend rides!!! Maybe next year the prices will come down to ground level! Lol 😆

[@mikehd3904]

SMILES PER GALLON!

[@darrellbrown1148]

@@mikehd3904 lol barley afford a smirk!! Lol

[@mikehd3904]

@Darrell Brown sure smells good though hey

[@brads9931]

You guys need some new riding content big time,…

[@goatboss3616]

Old sleds got an old phazer and a old 2007 cat m8 laying around that needs to be sold

[@mikehd3904]

I got one,fn thing can't keep a clutch in it for more that a season

[@goatboss3616]

@@mikehd3904 in then m8? Haven't had bad problems yet just regular maintenance it's allways been good she's pushing 9300km on it think I've only blown one cluch since owning it for the last 6 years

[@mikehd3904]

@goatboss ya other than clutchs, and i ripped a track too,one set reeds. , it's a spare sled now, upgraded to 2012 m8

[@goatboss3616]

@@mikehd3904 heck yeah just must of been the bad one outta the batch but that's what mine is used for to a spare has a 2016 cat sno pro that barely gets used to 😂

[@mikehd3904]

@goatboss but I mean it's always seen a used clutch, im sure new ,wouldn't be so hard on them lol,im a lil hard on riggn to bit if ya not breakn something, not riding, already did a arm on the 2012 and only had it a month 😁

[@anthonyVR1BOOST]

So I snow-checked a VR1 boost 129 track are you sitting down 22k US I gotta be sick in the head but f**k it. I can’t wait for it

[@sandych33ks1]

I have been saying it for years now. Snowmobiling is killing itself. 20k plus for a sled you can ride for less than 3 months .... I use buy new every year, then ever 2 years. Now I'm out for kid and have a new UTV that I can use year around. Especially this year as we just didn't have the normal snow fall.

[@JulianJohanson]

If you can only ride for 4 months, that’s on you. Snow is there probably about 8...

[@themeach011]

I was in Fernie this weekend and the trucks were lined up for a mile down the road from the parking lot and that's just one spot. With it being more difficult to travel out of the country I feel like a lot of people got into sledding over the pandemic. I sold some older sleds to upgrade and I got more than I paid for all four of them and some I had for 4 years. Everything was selling like hot cakes. High demand plus low supply equals high prices. They are definitely getting super expensive but I know guys back in the late 90's that were dropping 30k on motors and I'm pretty sure these sleds off the factory floor would waste those machines now days. If you think about what u had to spend before to get a comparably capable machine as the ones today you likely had to spend more. And you can buy a 2 or 3 year old kick ass machine with no miles on it for under 10k today.

[@Acestrex]

I can’t even buy a new snowmobile anymore!!

[@polisen4216]

Just click build your sled on skidoo

[@danielkrupa3138]

I talked to a buddy last weekend about how I wish at least one of the companies could have a basic platform. Same motor and suspension packages and a tack but non of the extra electronic crap you don't need to enjoy a day on the snow.

[@hornefoundations]

Yes, the price of sleds is getting rediculous like everything else is...if you add every accessory you can on a sled the price would be around $5,000 more on any of the sleds.

[@big_whiskey1387]

🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@drewscagnetti6225]

Polaris

[@509FUN]

2 stroke is too lightweight to give up. Doubt they won’t be available in 10 years

[@graysonbauer8526]

🤟🤟

[@aclarke812]

2 yrs ago, I got a 2016 summit 800, it had 86 km for 6100. Absolute steal!

[@roofall247]

34 grand with tax no thanks 😂 keep mine for a bit lol

[@michaelhansen7516]

$24K for my 165 9R Pro. Worth it to me, although I bought a new car for the same amount.

[@sylfixplayz2142]

bought m 2016 summit in 2020 for 8,500$ CAD. Could slap an 860rk tek big bore kit in there, brand new aftermarket clutches, and a full custom skid and build a 180+hp monster of a sled for less... I think these new sleds are col but i'm just not interested lol

[@michaelhansen7516]

@@sylfixplayz2142 Good way for those of you that like to work on sleds ... the handling on a new ride though.

[@crazybcenduro7536]

20 grand is way to much for a dam snowmobile I moved to a snowbike 3 years ago and never looked back, I was in to it for 8 grand, snowbikes are way cheaper to fix as well!!!🤣 no wonder sleds have so much warranty they have a ticking time bomb under the hood!! The more power you have!! the life of your engine decreases!!!facts!!!!!

[@crazybcenduro7536]

U could buy a nice truck with 20 grand!!!🤣

[@crazybcenduro7536]

Plus with a snowbike you can ride it all year long!!! Can a snowmobile do that, I don’t think so!!!!🤘

[@JulianJohanson]

I snow checked a 9r. Dealer isn’t charging me pdi or any dealer fees. Freight is $300 after using Polaris coupon from 7s display.

[@gkassociates7112]

People think the prices are going up, in reality the currency is worth less each and every year. Inflation in the real sense is more accurately running between 12% and 15%. It's not that manufacturers are making more $, their margins are thin. I also agree we are at the end of snowmobiles as we know it. I have been sledding for +50 years, they are better than ever today I may or may not pick up a new one from the showroom later this year, no turbo, if there are any. You youngsters have the best days of snowmobiling and the worst ( prices too much to justify ). I think the sport as a whole will begin to be deemed too damaging to our environment, the dealers will slowly disappear , a long with the manufacturers for awhile. It has already begun with the banks using ESG to score business loans. Enjoy it while you can.

[@mikehd3904]

Dunno bout that dude, gold predictions are 7k a oz in a few months, that sure as shit isn't LESS every year , I remember trading a oz of gold straight across for oz of weed 25 years ago 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@gkassociates7112]

@@mikehd3904 The gold does not go up in the value, it remains constant as can be. The currency which we call money fluctuates and finally like all Fiat currencies it becomes worthless. I have been in precious metals for many years because it actually HAS value. Don't get caught up in valuing the dollar to gold, gold retains value while the dollar is almost worthless. Thats why snowmobiles now exceed $20K. The correction is here - just look around.

[@mikehd3904]

@@gkassociates7112 fair enough

[@rhondaandrew1764]

That is 3 times what I paid for my 2019 pro brand new

[@mikehd3904]

You must have a status card hey

[@rhondaandrew1764]

Artic did build a thunder cat but I don't remember the engine size

[@mikehd3904]

Early ones were 900 than think went 1000

[@fiberfritz8354]

$20 K plus. Out of control prices in recreational market. I'll continue to do my research for availability of used sleds and parts to maintain.

[@otakujhp]

All you need is an '88 Exciter.

[@mikehd3904]

And a chiropractor!

[@scottc9303]

My biggest problem with the new sleds is longevity. There is no reason they shouldn't last 4000-5000 miles. Who's going to buy that $30k sled with 2000 miles, it would cost a fortune to repair.

[@208SledHead]

When you take a step back and realize how much power these motors are making per CC - it's a wonder they run at all. Just to compare a typical 5.2L small block Chevy - if they made the same amount of power per CC as these N/A 850's are, your every day small block Chevy would be making over 1,000 horsepower. That's pump gas with no turbo or anything. Just think about that for a second...

[@scottc9303]

@@208SledHead Ya I know. No excuse though.

[@208SledHead]

@@scottc9303 You’re being unrealistic. Sounds like you need a 4 stroke.

[@mikehd3904]

Lots of people Scott, lots have been doing this for years

[@scottc9303]

@@208SledHead Maybe I do.

[@cariboucorner]

the most i spend is about 5K

[@ryanbrandenburg1882]

What's your cat prediction?

[@mikehd3904]

Gonna shit in a box

[@bigchaloopa]

Hang snowmobiling up. Buy a Motocross bike instead. Way cheaper, lasts longer, cheaper to rebuild, and can add a snowmobile track to it.

[@billallen4793]

Sleds are becoming just like sideXside's, to damn expensive to really have fun with! Because of the fear of wrecking it...smfh....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠

[@208SledHead]

Just like diesel pickups, and houses, and groceries, and gas etc etc

[@charlespalmer5807]

Polaris is crazy, you will not see me buying one, this is not good for the sport

[@brandenburg2286]

Fuck I won't spend over 2k

[@shane677h]

Whether it’s houses, vehicles, or toys - it’s all frightening. I’m concerned about the vehicle and rec markets crashing like homes did in ‘08. Everyone is financed through the nose and there will come a time when the banks say “no” to a bunch of people at once which will annihilate the market. I don’t know when, but it seems inevitable with so many people carrying over negative equity with each purchase.

[@matth8924]

Vehicle and recreational vehicle markets crashing isn't going to be nearly as catastrophic for the economy as home prices cashing would be. But it's crazy there are actually people buying 22K USD sleds, especially in places like here in the Midwest where we ride about 2.5 months of the year.

[@shane677h]

@@matth8924 I think this crash could be equally as dramatic for those that make payments on everything. I'm in Canada and know of many people that dropped nearly $30K and make a few trips to the mountains a year... so call it 15 riding days. If/when the market crashes and that sled is worth $15K and the balance owing is $25K, we're all in trouble. Us powersports enthusiasts are a special breed lol.

[@mikehd3904]

@@shane677h smiles per gallon 👍👍

[@kennesbitt4722]

it is called theft

[@CalgaryDynastar]

The 10in screen is such a gimmick. Would be one thing if it had gps like the Polaris ones. Waste of money upgrade IMO.

[@gavinw4165]

Bruh to customize a ski doo you press the customize my own under the hamburger menu at the top and then proceed to pick your model it’s not hard

[@RAM-19]

You are right brother...in 1998 I bought a artic cat powder special show sled for $21,000 brand new...for that money I got a 1080 big bore.. 144 inch track...50hp spray kit...ran on 50/50 prem/race gas..custom clutches...suspension...thing was a monster..(took a steel mountain bar to the face and broke jaw..knocked a bunch of teeth out...yes I had a lid on)...only a pipe dream for me to afford these new ones...great vid P.S....check out you tube vid of a fellow alberta boy...I am waiting to hear back from fish and fur...but 3 days ago got a record nothern pike...51.75 inches long...vid is tilted "gigantic nothern pike March 2022"...let me know what you think...D

[@mikehd3904]

If you payed 21k for a powder special in 98, you were obviously shopping in a high vis vest.... pick me ,pick me!

[@RAM-19]

@@mikehd3904 there was nothing stock on that sled other than chassis.. it was a full mod sled...I'm not a sucker...

[@mikehd3904]

@Darren MANNING just saying bro payed 10k for same thing in 98, wasn't all wacked n modded but was the most reliable thing sled I've seen , had over 10k km before he smacked into cement block and busted up the bulkhead

[@RAM-19]

@@mikehd3904 yah I hear yah...but for 98 this this was a fully modded build...almost 200 hp without the spray...and nothing on sled was not modded.. sick this is any bone stock mountain sled these days would eat mine...3 years of hard riding and never blew a motor...lol..

[@newfy1593]

If you factor in dealer fees, taxes, and interest on the financing you might be pushing 40k lol. That's without any aftermarket parts either ...

[@whitelightning3330]

30k on a stupid snowmobile is ridiculous lol I could see you spending that on a truck but not a snowmobile 🤣 it will still depreciate and break just as fast as a cheap snowmobile.

[@bigmurph1447]

Who the hell would even pay that for a sled and it will be junk in 5 years. Most I paid for a sled was 12400 out the door for my backcountry. In 2012 I paid 8500 for my renegade that was brand new.

[@claudelarocque3655]

$30000 for a sled, absolute stupity. I find anymore instead of giving us a good track they give you a 10 screen. Really who cares. Your riding in a bush. How about something we can afford. Helmet face shields don't last snowmobile suits don't last $65000 trucks $10000 plus trailers to put on 2500km in a good season for the average rider. Just crazy

[@sylfixplayz2142]

They're literally asking what I make in a year after taxes for a sled that I can ride 3-4 months a year lol

[@matthewb7049]

Electric sucks. Snowmobile trails aren't open half as often as they use to be. Winters dying wether or not it's global warming or what ever. Electric vehicles aren't going to save this planet. Every ones buying ATVs because you rode the.year round sort of ( plow snow) Or buying themselves a nice shiny new truck. And staying away from the toys . Because they can't afford anything else. And Gas is NOT ... Going to get cheaper. PERIOD. It's only going to get more expsenive from here on. Once my sled dies I'm over it. And electric sucks !

[@corylebo3907]

Crazy price killing sport or there gonna sell the electric sled at lower price so people buy them so they can phase out gas engines

[@pilotlangdon]

Always been a Ski-Doo guy for 40 years. Now they are just plain UGLY! Absolutely hideous looking and WAY too expensive