Building The Springfield Prodigy

Taking a new Springfield Prodigy and turning into a screamer

[@SkipsGunz]

I do very similar upgrades I’m loving to see the prodigy get its upgrades properly

[@jdunbar2995]

I really appreciate this video because it gives me the ground work to build my own prodigy

[@reggieburris]

Excellent video.

[@kmonroe5785]

Man the trigger looks like it feels amazing. Nice and short and quick reset

[@khuramsayeed8429]

Beautiful build, I just got mine back from skips Gunz with EGW internals, atlas tool less guide rod, carry safety’s, 8lbs spring red dirt trigger, and I swear that thing shoots almost as good as my PT HTAC. I simply don’t get some of the comments that people make specially the ones below I’m about $2100 with the gun into mine, and I believe it’s worth every penny!

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

I understand. I just cerakoted mine today. Am doing the Cheely E2 stainless grip on mine. With optic, I’m gonna be about $2500 in with 3 Atlas mags! You can barely buy a Staccato P for that with a polymer grip and iron sights. Haters have to troll to feel good I guess. Enjoy your Prodigy!

[@jimmysalgado5237]

How much did you pay for labor and parts? I want to get my done just like yours.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

@@jimmysalgado5237 if you already have the Prodigy, parts and labor as this one is set up would put you around $1900. If you need the gun as well, add $1400

[@jesselopez1922]

You could've bought a Staccato and NOT need any upgrades!

[@jesselopez1922]

When you say 8lb spring, do you mean the recoil spring? Also do you add a tool-less guide rod?

[@brianusa394]

I’d rather get a pistol that great out of the box than spend more for less on a Prodigy . My choice is the Bul Tac pro 4.25 it cost a bit more but when you add up the accessories needed for the Springfield Bul is the best value and it shoots better than pistols costing a lot more.

[@gmckinney626]

The only fitting was to blend the safety to the frame. We also stone the trigger track to eliminate any burrs. Depending on your trigger, you may have to fit the trigger shoe tracks itself to eliminate any restriction as we did.

[@kzyt87]

nice❤

[@dwightmays1486]

Good instructional video. Careful with parts handling and close up demos... a lot of the time what you were trying to show was off camera.

[@ajaponte5885]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@panioloprep8126]

With the sear and disconnector in place is there a special technique to combining the frame section with the grip section?

[@rottiejakeluke]

I am looking for a smith to do a build out for my Prodigy and noticed tour videos.do you have a website or do you do outside work for a potential customer? Thank you.

[@user-cc3qn9mw9y]

You're super talented! Any possibility you could gunsmith my Prodigy?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Certainly can. You can email us at [e-mail]

[@MrPzadilla]

I'm looking to put one of those grip frames on. Did you have to do any fitting?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Only for the trigger shoe

[@panioloprep8126]

And how do you disassemble the slide and guide rod after the tooless guide rod is installed

[@jedeckert9525]

Now I wish I didn’t order that egw ignition kit. I didn’t see one listed on the atlas website, but I’m actually going to their store tomorrow. I should have waited.

[@JCarruth130]

Other than replacing...how do you suggest correcting the factory ambi safeties not moving in sync? Filing down? I feel right thumb activation works better than left....i am a lefty so that is an issue.

[@bpri9880]

Dude I’m glad you are a gunsmith and not a surgeon with those shaky hands 😂😂 nice work though!

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

I’m certain my patients would agree

[@josephthomas7780]

What grit is your trigger track stone in your Arkansas stone that you were using in the video?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Medium ceramic

[@adrock8203]

What was done to lower the trigger pull weight?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

The sear-hammer full cock notch is already perfect, so all that was needed was to adjust the sear leg of the leaf spring.

[@CaliSportsman365]

How'd you get the take up out of the trigger?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Tabs on the trigger bow and the overtravel adjustment screw in the bottom of the trigger shoe adjust your pre and over travel.

[@LOliver]

👍🏿

[@tommynorman5609]

Is the metal grip thinner then the polymer? I held one yesterday at the shop and the stock grip was a little wide

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Depends entirely on what you purchase. Some manufacturers like Cheely offer different thicknesses, contours and aggression of finish.

[@wehrewulf]

Than, not then.

[@josephtardio1086]

How much would all of this cost with parts & labor?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

To build exactly like this one, if you already have the Prodigy, about $1900 including optic and plate. Add $1400 for the gun

[@josephtardio1086]

And without the optic, but w/ the plate? Thank you. @@moacustomfirearms8816

[@leeroyjenkins1127]

where do I find the polishing stones ?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Brownell’s, MidwayUSA, Everglades Ammo

[@Citizen2ACitizenLLC]

Very nice upgrades. Went with the EGW ignition kit with the 17# main spring, atlas trigger/bow, EGW stainless steel grip safety, thumb safety, atlas tooless guide rod, EGW stainless steel extended slide stop for my prodigy 4.25”. EGW magwell stainless steel. Haven’t decided if I was going to change the recoil spring out. Great job/video. Just sub’d When I get all the parts and finish the work I’ll post a video and tag you. Just sub’d. Keep going.

[@xdivineHART]

How much did all those parts cost?

[@Citizen2ACitizenLLC]

Ignition Kit $134, Atlas Trigger/Bow $60, Atlas Tooless Guide Rod $70, EGW Stainless Mainspring housing $60, EGW stainless ambi thumb safety $140 EGW stainless Grip safety $70 EGW stainless slide stop $50.... Still waiting on the Stinless mag release.. that is running $40 @@xdivineHART

[@xdivineHART]

@@Citizen2ACitizenLLC are you planning on replacing your grip? Master piece arms sells stainless steel grips for $650-725 and they already come with a magwell, mag release, mainspring housing and grip safety. I think.

[@Citizen2ACitizenLLC]

I thought about it but decided not to. This is my introduction to the 1911/2011 world. I've only owned striker fired guns. So the prodigy is like "Fisher Prices my first tricycle...." I plan to shoot it stock for 500 rounds, drop a video and then do all the upgrades and repeat to see if the upgrades are worth it. If everything works out the way I think it will, 2024 will be the "Year of the Hammer" where I will document and post all of the newly acquired hammer fired pistols starting with the Staccato P, moving on to buy armory and then the Platypus (maybe not in that order) @@xdivineHART

[@xdivineHART]

@@Citizen2ACitizenLLC i love my staccato P. It's almost like cheating.

[@JW02828]

The deleted grip safety is from what company? Lone Star Industry, if so, it's not on their website.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

It came with the LSI grip

[@JW02828]

@moacustomfirearms8816 Ok, thank you. Too bad it's not a stand-alone part that will work with the factory group.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

@@JW02828factory grip safeties can be pinned

[@JW02828]

@moacustomfirearms8816 True, I was just thinking it would be more reliable than having it pinned. Also, the flush fit of the safety to the grip will feel nice.

[@drtmi8789]

The sear and hammer are NOT Atlas parts. They are EGW parts they buy in bulk and match up under magnification. You'd think a smith would know that.

[@gmckinney626]

I’m sure there are a lot of things Atlas sells that they don’t manufacture, however, Atlas markets this as an Atlas ignition kit. I didn’t say they manufactured it. I’m sure Taran Tactical doesn’t manufacture their mag extensions. I’m sure Wilson Combat doesn’t manufacture their barrels. I’m sure a lot of companies don’t actually manufacture what they’re selling. You’d think a troll would know that.

[@TheDiViSion007]

I have EGW Kit but the slide keep hang up on the disconnect or when the slide return

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Could be too much tension on the leaf spring leg for the disconnector. If not, possibly look at doing a Marvel cut on the bottom of the slide. Good luck

[@ohhgourami]

Did you fit the ballhead disconnector so it doesn't hang up in the frame? Is this while depressing the trigger and racking the slide? If so, you might need to adjust the overtravel screw in the trigger shoe.

[@TheDiViSion007]

@@ohhgourami hummm I see I will try when I get home thank you.

[@HustleRuss1919]

68 views and I'm the 1st like?! Anyway, great job. I have my prodigy coming soon.

[@njcranes]

Might be a silly question but... why put an ambi safety unless you are an ambi shooter?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Action shooting requiring weak hand only shooting iterations

[@njcranes]

@moacustomfirearms8816 good info. Currently only participating in Steel Challenge, so I appreciate the insight

[@gregorycruz8003]

The mim ejector will snap. I’ve seen it on 3 different Prodigy’s already. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jbsack]

Almost 5K rounds through my 4.25 and 3500 through my 5” and the ejector is fine. While its not the best out there and MIM, its not automatically going to break.

[@gregorycruz8003]

My point is. If you’re gonna change out all the internals might as well do the ejector too. “Might as well” syndrome. I’m not saying everyone’s prodigy ejector will automatically snap. I had my gun sent to Skips guns and had everything swapped out except the ejector. Well, guess what. It broke. I should’ve change it when he had it.

[@adrock8203]

​@@gregorycruz8003were the snaps you saw during slide lock reloads or something else?

[@PkwyDrive13]

​​@@gregorycruz8003can you just swap the ejector? Or is that part of the frame requiring a whole new frame?

[@jesselopez1922]

I can't imagine getting a $600 grip module and not getting an EGW ignition kit???? Not too smart.

[@user-cc3qn9mw9y]

Are you a licensed gunsmith, or can you help me on a Prodigy project?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

There is no licensure for gunsmiths. And yes, what are you wanting done?

[@user-cc3qn9mw9y]

@@moacustomfirearms8816 Gotcha, I've got an EGW ignition kit, slide stop, mag well, grip safety, red dirt trigger, and your work is far superior, so I just wanted to reach out. Oh, is the grip safety MIM?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Email us at [e-mail]

[@lennydee3538]

Why would one want to disable the safety?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Because competitive shooters are running for speed. If they don’t get a perfect grip on the draw, they may not disable the grip safety. This allows a less-than-perfect grip draw to continue the course of fire until an area of the stage allows time for a re-grip. Extremely common in the action shooting sports.

[@wehrewulf]

It is reduntantly uneccessary.

[@Erebus_DE]

I really don't believe, that Steel grip will work well with Steel frame on a DS 1911. The front attachment point will crack.😅

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Steel is what all of the high end custom builders use, I.e. Atlas, Brazos, Masterpiece, Akai, etc. No logical reason to think that attachment point is weak.

[@timothygarrity5181]

I wouldn't spend the money on it, just get a masterpiece arms ds9!.I have shot springfield xdms for years in idpa.I put a prp trigger in it and they are really good!.Almost 1911ish.The thing is with springfield is prepare to send the gun it for repair. I love the ergonomics of the xdm and everything but most of their guns have some damn issue to where you have to send it in for something. I don't know if there has ever been a handgun they haven't had issues with unless maybe a trp.I could be wrong though. I do like springfield better than glock i can say.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Totally agree that most of their stuff is lacking. I built one of these in a 5” for myself in USPSA LO, 2-gun and The Tactical Games. I’m approaching 1500 rounds without a failure of any kind. Love MPA. Their trigger is a bit lacking, but they make great guns also.

[@robertcutrupi9426]

Just buy a staccato already

[@teamcq9204]

Sorry to talk smack but my brand new prodigy is on its way back to the factory. Over eight failure to feed, thumb safety stuck twice and the slide would stick open. Definitely not a reliable gun.

[@gmckinney626]

That’s a shame to hear. I have about 2000 rounds through mine without any failures at all. I think this customer has over 1000. Hopefully Springfield gets you dialed in.

[@HaveAblessedDay7777]

😂

[@MilkTeasMom]

*Double Stack 1911. The only 2011's are made by Staccato 😉

[@tpajason]

Having a Prodigy AND a Staccato, I can say my Prodigy was worth what I paid. The CS? Not so much. And MOA did some work on my Prodigy, too.

[@barrygoodson4952]

Staccato means overpriced in English !

[@timothygarrity5181]

Vudoo or ds9? What do you all think?.

[@kmonroe5785]

How to make a $1,500 gun perform like a $3,000 gun? put $3,000 worth of parts and labor into it 😂

[@loquette1]

Always gotta be one, don't be mad cause you can't afford it, stick to your stock glock, these are big boy projects 😆

[@Thisthat1234]

@@loquette1has nothing to do with money lol has to do with the fact that the cheapest 2011 on the market is having to be substantially upgraded to perform like other 2011 on the markets. Why buy a 1.5k gun and put 1.5k in parts when you could just get a staccato for 3k and call it a day

[@loquette1]

@Thisthat1234 it's called choices. If that is what you want to do, then do that ! Some people like to customize and make the gun perform to their liking. I'm one of those people I have MANY custom builds. I have 2 Prodigies that outperform my Staccato P, and I have since upgraded my Staccato P. What I don't understand is the people who come on this platform and complain about other people spending THEIR money the way they want, not everybody is plain vanilla, missionary. Some people like a little spice in their life, sounds like a bunch of jealous broads on here mad because you can't afford to do it either, get another job 😆

[@bluedragonab]

​@@loquette1🤣🤣🤣 got on this man's kufu ! Lmao I feel u tho

[@SevenThreeNation]

You're comical

[@SMASHTIME]

As soon as you pass the 600.00 mark you should just get a staccato

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

All relative to what you’re looking for. The Staccato still has a polymer grip. The difference in the weight of the steel grip makes a huge difference in felt recoil and muzzle rise. I regularly get Staccatos in for trigger improvement. If you want to compare apples to apples, take away the optic and the steel grip, and you are well under $600 in improvements. That puts you under $2k for a Prodigy that will outperform the Staccato P which is their bare bones model. All in what you’re looking to achieve.

[@loonielonnie]

Prodigy’s are NOT 2011’s, 2011 is trademarked by Staccato (formerly STI) the prodigy is a double stack 1911.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Yeah, we pretty much ALL know that. Thanks

[@CordaroBlu]

Same goes for refrigerator, and Band-aid, bud. It's called a genericized brand-name or colloquial eponym. It's used because it let's people get the point without saying more words.

[@loonielonnie]

It’s a double stack 1911. The platform has a name, and you calling it a trademarked name is idiotic when the style/platform has a name.

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Thanks so much for pointing out the idiocy. We’ll call the Prodigy a 1911DS henceforth since that’s what Springfield calls it. Now, I think I’ll go order some clips for a 2011 since they fit the 1911DS. Maybe I’ll order some bullets too. The internet never disappoints.

[@NotAnOperator442]

@@moacustomfirearms8816fuck that guy. Keep doin what you’re doin, great video!

[@Eldood1000]

why dont you just buy a real 2011 instead of spending the same amount of money as a P/XC?

[@moacustomfirearms8816]

Easy. Because the P starts at $2500 with a polymer grip. He has less than that in this gun with a steel grip and a superior fire control system. The. XC isn’t an option because it puts him in Open.

[@Eldood1000]

@@moacustomfirearms8816 buy an xl then. Pay the premium. It’s worth it

[@willwaconsya3433]

The gun is a piece of crap. I bought a brand new one. And with the first shot the gun jammed. The shell would not eject. The slide was not fully returning because of a part below the main frame that looked like a small pin sticking up a fraction. The slide would go over it and stick. And what gets me is the gun box had a tested ok tag inside. If it was tested at all. I was so mad. I returned the gun but lost $50 because it was now a used gun. I am telling everyone dont buy this model. It has issues going back to 2011. Check KZbin posts.

[@timothygarrity5181]

I just left a post about springfields.I like the xdms for their ergonomics and natural point of aim.I competed in idpa for 7 years with one with a prp trigger in it.Crazy good triggers 1911ish almost!. Very short reset and it changed gun completely!.Thing is with springfield although accurate requires multiple trips back to them for repairs!. The same guy for years would always try to discourage me from sending any of my springfield xdms back in for repair.They would fight me on sending me a shipping label which pissed me off!.certain gun isent in they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it. as soon as i got it back it malfunctioned right away!. I just put a deposit on a Springfield echelon. If this gun doesn't work right it will be the last damn gun i ever buy from them.I know the prodigy has issues with not going into full battery and the slide cycling slowly.Who ever is reading this, be cautious when buying any springfield, i have dealt with them for years with multiple firearm problems!.

[@amstaffer1]

All the 2011 guns are extremely over priced , that kind of money just for a 1911 style trigger is nuts ,and I own 1/2 dozen 1911’s, anything over a grand and have to dump a ton of new parts , doesn’t make much sense,but to each I guess.