Building the Worst WW2 Air Force - Terrible Aircraft and How to Sell Them (feat.

[@PerunAU]

Welcome back to sponsor Odoo - www.odoo.com/r/nwm Consider checking them out if you're interested and I hope you're looking forward to seeing the Perun website built using their website builder once it's ready to launch. Also, welcome all of you to my end of year special. After the year that was 2024, I thought it might be fun to take on something a little less serious, but still hopefully informative and educational. I have to say, getting a chance to deliberately outline how to sabotage a procurement effort felt....strange, but at the same time, I feel like we've only scratched the surface. I also only covered about half of the aircraft I was given in this episode - so who knows if 2025 will see a sequel at some point.

[@rocko7711]

❤

[@centurymemes1208]

why you upload this gaurgh? the doodoo? the dodoro aughr? The organisation’s dodo arrghh

[@alexandrebelinge8996]

Buy the F104 !

[@Pilvenuga]

the perfect fit for Elbonia would be Boeing planes

[@krissteel4074]

We needed more float planes in that list considering the continent of Emutopia's vast places to land them

[@cooperreynolds5041]

Animarchy: Here's the shittiest shitbox to ever shitbox. Good luck. Perun: I'm not selling you an aircraft, I'm selling you the *idea* of an aircraft

[@KnightOfEvil]

Why did i read in his voice. And why does it fit so much

[@aliasalias8433]

😂😂😂

[@concinnus]

We have concepts of an aircraft.

[@arnesieper8332]

@@concinnus wanted to write that myself, but you came first XD

[@AC20sAkimbo]

The idea of air craft sounds like the legal jargon used in digital game licenses

[@chriskola3822]

"How to get military procurement wrong" Well, Perun has finally outed himself as an Emutopian spy working in procurement for the Canadian department of defense.

[@claudest-arnaud2072]

As a Canadian, I wholeheartedly concur with your assessment.

[@avroarchitect1793]

ironically the same tricks have been used by DND to keep the politicians from forcing them to buy known to be garbage equipment or equipment that did not meet their needs ( or at least was better at getting closer to meeting their long term needs than the cheaper option), ie F-35, C-17, and Leo 2.

[@jrggrop]

Nah, Canada doesn't need any help creating a military procurement disaster.

[@vic5015]

Isn't he Aussie?

[@grahamthom8597]

We wish! 😁 🇨🇦

[@HenKit-kn5gh]

I look forward to the potential followup video where Perun, as the incoming procurements minister after the last guy was arrested for treason, has to salvage a functioning airforce out of this disaster on a tight budget.

[@TheGoodluckjonny]

Easter special maybe? :D

[@reklessbravo2129]

Good idea, I like it!

[@jabba258]

+1 on that idea!

[@nibs7252]

-Consolidate the Pe-8 and He-177 programs and just focus on making whichever one is more promising and affordable to be a functional and reliable platform. -Nix the Me-163 program entirely or retrofit the airframes as unpiloted drones or cruise missiles. -Refit the Ryan Fireballs to no longer have a jet engine and fly under conventional power alone. Use the weight savings to reinforce the wings and add armaments. -Relegate the Q1Ws to rear-echelon and training duties, and consider selling some to civil aviation firms (minus the guns and other military hardware). -Do whatever it takes to standardize on just one set of calibers, either WarPac or NATO.

[@m.gardner6173]

This!

[@Dcook85]

27:52 USSR: "Comrade General! We've detected ICBM launches from the Americans" General: "Nyet Comrade, it's just their postal service sending out everyone's Christmas cards"

[@DarkFire515]

Somewhere there's an Elbonian procurement minister furiously writing things down.

[@marcpaulus6291]

Germany: Here we have a one use Interceptor Airplane that really is like a Kamikaze, that blows itself, the pilot, the crew and the whole Airfield up more than it manages to shoot down enemys. Perun: I hold back my most powerful argument in case there is something even more insane to sell.

[@littlekong7685]

You can tell he works in the industry... because the rocket plane WAS an improved model, they saw something MORE INSANE and said we can make it slightly better.

[@cavalcadeofbobs3559]

It wasn't single use though

[@jlvfr]

But it's such a pretty and awesome rocket...

[@Eliastion]

Well, to be honest, unlike the other designs in this video, the rocket interceptor had a very, VERY clear edge. It was a logistical nightmare of a one-trick pony with a tendency to spontaneously explode, but that one trick - climbing ridiculously fast to engage incoming high-altitude threats - really WAS impressive. It genuinely had a selling point, even if the "whole package" actually stunk when you look at it rationally. Selling the thoroughly mediocre (or even just all-around bad) designs felt much more impressive to me than getting someone to pay for an honestly impressive in its key characteristic, just thoroughly impractical in all other aspects, wunderwaffe.

[@michaeltempsch5282]

​@@cavalcadeofbobs3559Wasn't supposed to be, still often was...😮

[@phil21s]

I don't like the fact that for every justification used by Perun for these picks, a real life example came to mind. Or two...

[@Marinealver]

cough*Boeing*cough

[@davethompson3326]

@@Marinealver cough*Lockheed*cough

[@themonkeyspaw7359]

@@davethompson3326 At least Lockheed stuff works...

[@OldTownCrab]

A multirole aircraft, with engine reliability issues, and complex maintenance, and compromises in many of its roles. Put into service because it has too many groups invested in it. Doesn't sound like any aircraft I've heard of

[@TheGoodluckjonny]

@@OldTownCrabExcept that the F35 turned to be one of the best fighter jets out there …

[@daveoram7249]

Interesting and Fun episode. I worked for a major UK Bank who created a Requirements Specification for a new Payments System. The Solution that the Senior Management wanted came third. They changed the Specification so that the Winner was ruled out as it ran on the wrong Hardware (even though we had other applications running on that hardware). But it was still second, so they added some new Requirements (whilst I was on leave), requirements which were dodgy to say the least, re-scored the Solutions and the preferred solution was still second but close enough to the winner to be selected. When I came back from leave and challenged the new Requirements as being loaded in a certain suppliers favour I was met with a wall of silence and being a lowly individual in the pecking order was unable to force the issue. It is probably worth noting that that solution took 3 years to implement and when it was it failed to perform and was decommissioned less than a month later. Thought it was worth adding this so show people that this sort of stuff happens in real life and it is generally down to politics or corruption, in this instance I think it was purely down to politics.

[@dreamcoyote]

Yup. The drivers can be other than personal profit, including either forcing an organization to retain someone's institutional knowledge or just get "credit" for the effort. I had a part in killing the deployment of 5,000 licenses of MS Access across an organization for something that could be done in a web application requiring no client licenses. This was earlier on in the web days when legacy product SMEs were pushing hard to keep their expertise relevant. The guy was a bit of a jerk anyway so... ;) I also see this sort of thing frequently connected to new "regional managers" who feel they have to prove their worth by enforcing some new policy or product even if it is clearly a waste of time and money. If they didn't change anything, they don't feel they have any authority.

[@phann860]

It certainly does, totally agree.

[@murphy7801]

My experience with senior management creates more waste and problems than anything else in business

[@jimtalbott9535]

I’m in the midst of a “fun” situation at my employer too. The building my group occupies was designed with a VTR area, and inside that were two server rooms. One for sensitive stuff, and another, slightly smaller room for stuff that required security just a level below that of a SCIF. Fast forward a few years, and that second, more sensitive room wasn’t needed, and was gradually emptied out, and when there were just a FEW systems left, management said, “Hey, let’s convert that space to something else. So they did. And imagine that, it’s not that expensive to empty/remodel a room that already basically empty. Fast forward to about 4 years ago, they decided to remodel the larger server room. This room is decidedly NOT empty. They got the idea in their heads that this first room was in some way a blueprint to remodeling the second room. But being “in use”, moving active servers is NOT an inexpensive proposition.

[@jimtalbott9535]

I’m in the midst of a “fun” situation at my employer too. The building my group occupies was designed with a VTR area, and inside that were two server rooms. One for sensitive stuff, and another, slightly smaller room for stuff that required security just a level below that of a SCIF. Fast forward a few years, and that second, more sensitive room wasn’t needed, and was gradually emptied out, and when there were just a FEW systems left, management said, “Hey, let’s convert that space to something else. So they did. And imagine that, it’s not that expensive to empty/remodel a room that already basically empty. Fast forward to about 4 years ago, they decided to remodel the larger server room. This room is decidedly NOT empty. They got the idea in their heads that this first room was in some way a blueprint to remodeling the second room. But being “in use”, moving active servers is NOT an inexpensive proposition. Their entire first attempt failed without moving ONE thing. We excessed some stuff, but ….meh. They’re now in the home-stretch of their second attempt - stuff will actually be moved after the beginning of the year, and it’s been decided that only half of the room will be remodeled into something other than a server room use. It’s SO….DUMB!

[@Last_White_Rose]

As a late 40's female, with zero history in military, procurement, or even PowerPoint presentations I absolutely LOVE these. And this one is spot on amusing, terrifying and educational with a large helping of WITAF were they thinking. Thanks fellas - I hope to hear more colabs like this next year.

[@MaximumEfficiency]

Russia is not our enemy 🇦🇺

[@its_Today_]

@@MaximumEfficiencyReckon a few roos loose in the top paddock there old mate Now That’s true blue 😊🇦🇺

[@hatman4818]

Well part of what makes this so entertaining is that most people could relate to these ideas by observing them even in the civilian world with corporate procurement. For example, one of the reasons why Mcdonalds milkshake machines are always broken is that the company who makes them convinced Mcdonalds to buy only one model from them... A model designed to "break" and only be repairable by a super expensive "certified" technician.

[@bobbyearl60]

Get you resume and passport ready. You are perfectly qualified to head pocurement.

[@noneed4sleep64]

⁠@@MaximumEfficiencywe’re human beings, therefore Russia is our enemy.

[@desupocalypse]

It's actually a little scary how easily Perun managed to spin something like the Komet into a smart purchasing decision.

[@snickims9717]

His strategy with the Soviets bomber was straight up evil genius level.

[@RonJohn63]

Not to someone my age, who's experienced shyster salesmen for decades. 😧

[@JCDFlex]

Another plus for the Tokai: Since Japan is in the process of disarmament they will want to get rid of all of their military equipment. So you might actually get it for cheap since they HAVE to sell it at any price to fund the rebuilding of the country.

[@DebatingWombat]

And since neither Japan nor Germany will be building any new planes, production will, of course, have to be started up in Emutopia, meaning that Emutopian industry will now be saddled with trying to produce both a complex, fiddly and dangerous (to its personnel) rocket interceptor and a lot of Swiss Army knife bombers. Hence, the Tokai is an “obvious” choice for the rather niche role of ASW, because it’s wooden construction will leave all the more of Emutopia’s factories able to crank out the huge numbers of Greifs that the (too) big (to fail), multi service procurement programme clearly requires. Meanwhile, Emutopia’s high tech industry will have its hands full trying to try to get a handle on Komet production and maintenance under a shroud of secrecy while simultaneously getting the hang of jet propulsion to, at the very least, support and maintain the Fireball and probably prepare for future, native jet production as well. Meaning that it can’t be expected to help with Greif production and thus the need for an ASW plane that doesn’t compete for these manufacturing resources becomes all the greater.

[@hawk2222]

@@DebatingWombat and 5 to 10 years into future you have: great air force with plane for every task, good industrial base which can build its own aircraft and technological base for further jet/rocket developments, qualified ground crews and pilot thanks to *extensive* training

[@Destroyer_V0]

@hawk2222Or... you're bankrupt from having to fund all these things.

[@DebatingWombat]

@@Destroyer_V0 Or, even more likely given these particular planes, a fleet of dead end wholly obsolete aircraft, while the industrial base has been fragmented in trying to run in all the different directions at once, in addition to these programmes being a black hole money sink. Oh, and not to forget: A chaotic mess of different armaments and ammunition eating up further capacity and money.

[@Destroyer_V0]

@@DebatingWombat Ammunition, different measurement systems, not a single engine shared between designs... Hell they even use as many different fuels as possible as well!

[@AnimarchyHistory]

GLORY TO EMUTOPIA.... hopefully they bought it.

[@ThomasZukovic]

@@AnimarchyHistory You have a palestine flag in your x account , are you a tankie? Supporting mass murderers?

[@ThomasZukovic]

@@AnimarchyHistory Animarchy your hatred of nazi germany is very apparent. Can you seriously look at todays europe an say "yep the good guys won"? "We defeated the wrong enemy" -George S. Patton

[@alasdairbell4354]

Tf is that other guy on about

[@slashteam8440]

Must be from emutopia

[@theleva7]

​@@ThomasZukovic The good guys, the not-so-good guys (Hei, Finland & co), the not-too-terrible guys (buongiorno, Italy et al) and the USSR.

[@TheMaristBoy]

LET'S GO ELBONIA Edit: I wonder why Elbonia decided to rebrand as Emutopia

[@PerunAU]

Emutopia has a long and storied history on this channel, and their long stand-off with the Kiwis needed a lore expansion back into the 40s.

[@brenatevi]

There was an unfortunate adventure, so they needed to pack up and move to another continent.

[@exodusz19]

@@PerunAUand somehow it’s still a better love story than twilight

[@ThomasZukovic]

@@PerunAU Perun, nice video by the way i want to ask that will your next video be about ukraines equipment losses?

[@benholroyd5221]

Elbonia may claim Emutopian lands, but they are not the legitimate government. If Elbonia tries it, our Bob Semples will destroy them.

[@Yacovo]

Fun fact about the Komet: Pilots wore asbestos suits in order to protect themselves from very lethal fuel mixture splashes. It was minimally effective. Because I guess the Komet was very determined to be the cause of death of everybody that flew it, no matter how long it took. Thanks for the video.

[@nibs7252]

If you or a loved one have been involved in the Me-163 programme...

[@HardThrasher]

Fun fact, the Me163 also needed a whole fleet of really specialist vehicles to go with it - tankers, water bowsers, hoses, specialist firefighting kit, Me163 airbag thingys for moving them around and on and on plus loads of specailist things like PVC coated parachutes, fligth suits, ground suit, gloves etc - so I'd sell it as a means to kick start Emutopia's entire economy

[@Efeye-s]

Heh, Emutopia having to run on war economy just to keep their air force going, nevermind other branches of the military or, you know, actually fighting a war.

[@DrTssha]

Heck, if we divert enough production and funding to these materiel, we might wind up with government-spending induced stagflation, especially if we go to war with these things. The longer the war, the deeper the hole we dig for ourselves as we compete for limited resources and manpower pools, and spend enough money on labour (signing bonuses, retention bonuses, etc.) to balloon the amount of money in the economy to ridiculous proportions!

[@williamzk9083]

The Me 163B was probably a well run program, the Luftwaffe was not messing up the procurement of the aircraft. The aircraft was worth pursuing because it could intercept anything. 3 minutes to 36,000ft with other aircraft needing 5 times longer. The aircraft had originally designed to intercept reconnaissance aircraft but was instead used against bomber aircraft to get past escort fighters. The use of the Me 163B was only manufactured as a limited run batch as a trial to gain experience. (Wikipedia gets this wrong) The trial showed a couple of shortcomings: -Although the Me 163B-1 were able to intercept the bombers the endurance was 3-5 minutes to short as the aircraft needed time to position themselves for an attack. -The armament of 2 x 30mm guns was too light considering the firing time. -The skid type undercarriage couldn't absorb high sink rates leading to aircraft damage and pilot back injuries and lead to time delay recovering the aircraft from the airfield. -Pressurization was desirable. -One solution was to add a second smaller sustained chamber to the rocket motor. The HWK-509 was throttleable but it curise setttings was inefficient so a much smaller sustainer chamber integrated with the main (about 1/10th size) greatly increased endurance. -The ME 163C (latter renamed) Me 263 simply was a scaled up Me 163 with much for fuel and endurance as well as pressurization. It was considered too much work. -The Me 163D (latter Ju 248) was a Me 163 with extended fuselage for more fuel, 2 chamber rocket and retractable undercarriage. This was the one chosen for development. -Propellant transport wasn't much of a problem. I think Nitrous Oxide which was used by both Luftwaffe and RAF was difficult due to its cryogenic nature and transported by flying around under a fighter bomber rack. -The Luftwaffe's procurement fell into problems when they took short cuts and did not evaluate and trial enough. EG the Me 210/410 or gambled on engines eg Ju 288 and He 177

[@HardThrasher]

@williamzk9083 do feel free to check my video on the subject out

[@davelilley1967]

@@DrTssha isn't that Putin's strategy for Ukraine, to kill Russian industry and monitory stability?

[@Ashadow700]

I'm about 5 mins into the video, and I already want a spy movie about a bureaucrat tasked with infiltrating and sabotaging the political and legal process around military procurement. I mean, honestly; one skilled and secretly hostile accountant with sufficient security privileges could probably cause far more damage than Steve with a bomb ever could.

[@markjerue9734]

Truth

[@tangentreverent4821]

I want to watch this as well

[@mimimimeow]

That's just AIN office in Koblenz, Germany.

[@piedpiper1172]

If you define hostile to include “a desire for corporate profit regardless of the strategic, tactical, and manpower costs to the nation” you’ve pretty much described the US procurement process since roughly Eisenhower’s admin.

[@GrahamCStrouse]

How familiar are you with the German navy?

[@YoureSoVane]

"And since the ability to recognize a shitbox from over the horizon is basically a national superpower" what an introduction lol

[@lostalone9320]

Just because you know its a shitbox doesn't mean you aren't going to buy it 😂😂

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

If its a pretty shitbox many will still buy the iPhone 27

[@Battledongus]

FULLY SICC COMMIE BRO!

[@Cancun771]

He's now *_DELIBERATELY_* giving German Bundeswehr gold-plated procurement ideas. Why do you hate us so much?! (Also the word "post" is missing from the title.)

[@Joural0401]

He limited it to only ww2 aircraft so arguably it is a WW2 air force

[@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad]

Hey, Cancun. Maybe he is. If your army does do that, could you hand us the old jets? We could use them for our own air needs.

[@counter-intelligence7902]

I was about to say the same thing, too. But then Perun refused to use THE most usefull idea in procurement sabotage with a time honored tradition in the Bundeswehr: Changing the specs of a system constantly during the procurement process. Imho you cannot really destroy an army unless you use that method.😁

[@mimimimeow]

@@counter-intelligence7902 How else are those A13 Beamte going to prove that they are working hard? Specs must be revised! 😡

[@kleinweichkleinweich]

even Germany has sacered traditions, remember Ernst Udet who ordered that every bomber must be capable to perform dive bombing?

[@geodkyt]

With the Fireball adoption, you hit something I've actually run across as a military (naval) engineer. New class of ship, being done as much as possible with off the shelf systems *and* on the cheap (Thanks, US Congress!) The radar system chosen was one built in Germany. I questioned the test results. Was told, "Oh, we have to accept those results - they're a NATO navy and have equally stringent requirements!" Problem: 1. No, the German Navy acceptance testing was less stringent than US Navy standards. 2. The radar wasn't even tested to German Navy standards, because it was designed and intended for the Malaysian Navy and was being tested to those lower standards. 3. If you read past the executive summary and into the actual test report, the radar didn't even pass about half the rather mild Malaysian requirements... but the executive summary (which is all the procurement types read) said that it passed "overall". Note that the manufacturer was responsible for rubbing the tests and writing the test report, without *any* oversight from *any* naval officers (not Malaysian, not German, not US, not even Martian).

[@retmarut4499]

I work in construction and civil engineering. The methods described do totally apply for big construction projects as well (secrecy only for very specific reasons, though). If you believe that’s just an issue for government projects, think again. The private sector can be even worse because it isn’t governed by so many rules.

[@littlekong7685]

I have seen requirements that the firm doing X job must be local to this particular site, and just give the address of the headquarters of that firm. Yes, technically if another company bought out that one, they could fairly get the job....

[@retmarut4499]

​@@littlekong7685 ok, THAT would be too much on the nose. Depending on the size of the object federal projects need at least three valid contenders (for bigger projects) in my country. If someone is suspiciously too cheap, the bidder can be disbarred from the tender. Well, that's the letter of the law at least - how things are handled in reality is another story...

[@cecollins68]

Jesus with sheer amount of egos involved I can only imagine the chicanery and tomfoolery that goes on in construction procurement 😂

[@archiveacc3248]

​@@cecollins68construction is the final unassailable bastion of oldboyism. Saw so many dumb/inefficient/unsafe decisions made because of it

[@QaRajhCreations]

Is it going to be hard to sell the PE8 to politicians? Actually it's gonna be super-easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@SubOptimalUsername]

Wow

[@LupusGr3y]

Wow wow wow... wow

[@Marinealver]

Boeing is an expert at such an exploit.

[@AltShiftRivers]

Lying while doing procurement is tight.

[@reklessbravo2129]

My brain did the same thing 😂

[@bobjohnbowles]

OK so the 'effect of C4 on a sand castle' was my first beverage snork of the day.

[@andrewmcalister3462]

“Beverage snork” 😂😂😂

[@ThePhiphler]

Canada and Finland: The Equipment must be able to tolerate as high as -10 Celcius.

[@supersotamies]

more like -30

[@ThePhiphler]

@supersotamies Yes, thats on the lower end.

[@903lew]

I suffered through -33C once when I was in the army (Sweden). Weird things just break when it gets that cold.

[@littlekong7685]

@@903lew Canadian Rangers use the C19 bolt action rifle for arctic operations, they stopped using the Lee-Enfield 4 in 2018. It has special gun-oil and bullet primer requirements. Some primers can crystallize and shatter instead of detonating at cold enough temperatures, and some powders will not explode rapidly enough due to the cold meaning small calibre rounds are often extra under powered. There are stories of American units coming to train and finding out their plastic frame guns literally shatter up north.

[@ThePhiphler]

@@903lew I think you missed the joke.

[@jensen1964]

Here is my idea to add a bit of a Canadian flavor to your procurement process, regional development across different linguistic zones and introduce a new system of measurement. May I suggest that the frames be assembled in one zone using imperial measurements and in the other linguistic zone assemble the engines with metric blueprints. The aim is to have a gradual adoption of metric and to ensure that each linguistic zone is safe in the knowledge that it will get a piece of the action for this government program.

[@rodh1404]

It's hard to mix metric and imperial these days. But I notice they did get an American plane in there, and most countries do want to be able to at least assemble their own military hardware. So there's a chance they've already got that part going for them.

[@AsmodeusInflect]

@@rodh1404 Look 1/8" BSP and 1/8" NPT are basically compatible, so we really shouldn't worry about needing a couple of bushings here and there in other circumstances...

[@kemarisite]

Funny thing about the Ryan Fireball is that the dual propulsion system was a selling point to the Navy. It was supposed to be a jet, with the resulting speed, but have the reliable piston engine as a backup in case of problems with the jet. Ironically, there was actually a documented case of a pilot landing using the jet when the piston engine crapped out. This happened on landing approach on November 6, 1945, aboard the escort carrier USS Wake Island, but may not have been the first purely jet powered landing because there was allegedly still some power output from the piston engine. The pilot came in faster than expected and hit the last arrestor wire before hitting the crash barrier. Edit: for the last one, I'm a little surprised he didn't work the wooden construction into the tailored specifications, to save on stratevic materials or something.

[@RocketSurgn_]

Just… hearing the words “center of gravity was miscalculated” physically hurt to hear though.

[@emilchan5379]

Yeah on paper the Fireball was to combine the advantages of each - the speed of the jet engine with the piston engine's reliability and low-speed/low-altitude performance. In any case it was not the only plane with a dual propulsion system that the Navy operated, with the A-2 Savage being another.

[@Pilvenuga]

was the Fireball name added before or after service in the U.S navy?

[@allangibson8494]

@@RocketSurgn_Messerschmitt screwed up the center of gravity on both the Me210 and Me262 so it wasn’t uncommon. The fix for both was the same - sweep the wings aft to compensate… (yes, the Me262 wing sweep was an accident and had the same wing sweep as the DC-3).

[@TalkernateHistory]

When your plane has "Ryan Air" in the name, you know it's gotta be good

[@petergray2712]

Actually, putting the Fireball aside, Ryan was an aeronautical pioneer in the development of remotely operated aircraft. They even developed the first armed drone (in 1972)! But like their airline counterpart, they only succeed if human beings aren't involved in their aircraft..

[@timihendrix01]

​@@petergray2712except for Lindbergh's Ryan NYP, which was based on their mail planes, and the successful PT 22 trainer

[@DrownedLamp9]

If at first you don't succeed, sky diving isn't for you.

[@willythemailboy2]

Explosive Ordinance Disposal is probably off the list as well.

[@alganhar1]

As is deep technical diving....

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

@@willythemailboy2it’s a job where we don’t learn by our mistakes :)

[@afelias]

Having Perun say "Oh that's easy/not so bad" when given some absolute shitboxes kinda scares me that it's how procurement ends up being so long as a shitbox is being offered up

[@thomasbernecky2078]

A friend's father was an engineer and an AF officer in the the Occupation of Germany after WW2. He said a Komet safely landed in a field, then when the pilot didn't explode or exit the cockpit, they found he had melted. In the plane. And Perun: Best Wishes for Skewing in the New Year.

[@drstrangelove4998]

I don’t believe that story. Eric Brown flew one safely after the war, nobody else.

[@diestormlie]

He'd melted- what kind of definition of 'safe' are you working under?

[@williamzk9083]

I'm calling BS

[@KR-rs3sj]

A human body melted in the cockpit but didn't set the half-wooden plane on fire?

[@raihanwidodo1042]

Selling the Me 163 is like selling your own diarrheic poop and market it as an all natural fertilizer

[@pontimin4173]

The Me163 is so bad I wouldn't even attempt to sell it. No, I'd go for the Me262, which was actually a decent fighter except that its engines had a short service life. By the time Emutopia has made the engines reliable, it's likely Kiwiland would be flying the next generation of jets.

[@SubOptimalUsername]

On an unrelated note: we should absolutely be using waste as fertiliser. The world is running out of nitrogen to mine, excrement is a reusable fertiliser and it genuinely works, we are as a world wasting a hugely valuable renewable resource because we have a non renewable alternative. This PSA brought to you by gong farmers.

[@donaldhobson8873]

@@SubOptimalUsername The world is running out of nitrogen to mine, Isn't the atmosphere full of nitrogen. Mining nitrogen hasn't been a thing for a while now. It all comes from air + energy.

[@scotchbingeington6761]

Well, it does have WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!

[@Rellana1]

pontimin4173 The me 262's engines needed more development time but a war doesn't usually allow for such things.

[@JohnJackson-e9z]

I suspect one reason governments buy not very good aircraft is to keep domestic manufacturers in business hoping next time they come up with something better.

[@pontimin4173]

Which is actually a valid reason -- you have to buy military aircraft, or you won't have a military aircraft industry.

[@alexholker1309]

It could also be that the manufacturer started resting on their laurels once the government committed itself to buying local - that's apparently what happened with American domestic shipping.

[@alganhar1]

@@alexholker1309 Not really, the decline of the American Shipbuilding industry was quite a bit more complex than that. Certainly complacency was part of it, but by no means the only reason, nor even the most important. The problem with maintaining a ship building industry is not just in the Yards and the Ports surrounding them. Its also in the rest of the infrastructure that feeds the resources the shipyards need to build those ships. Part of he reason behind the US Shipbuilding decline has been the consistent refusal of the US Government to put in the kind of investment that growing and maintaining a modern shipbuilding industry requires.... Something that the big shipbuilding nations in the world, China, South Korea, and Japan have very much made a special point in doing. All of those countries have done everything they could to encourage, and even outright fund the growth of commercial ship building in their countries. The US simply has not. So like the once vast shipbuilding capability of the UK, the shipbuilding capability of the US has declined over the decades, instead of grown. Neither the UK nor the US were willing to put in the investment required to grow or maintain their lead in shipbuilding... so they fell behind. So no, its not just complacency.... Thats bad enough in the case of the US, but for the UK, its criminal mismanagement. We are an Island nation, the sea is utterly vital to our survival in both peace and conflict. That our government for the last 80 years have utterly neglected our shipbuilding industry is frankly treasonous.

[@wasdlmb]

I think Perun even has a video on that very subject.

[@mattiatorX]

This was part of why what I would pick for the fighter, the Blackburn Roc, was kept in production: it was deemed that cancelling it would cause too much disruption at Boulton Paul who were subcontracted to build it

[@Sokko325]

I see no issues with shooting nuclear capable cruise missiles across the globe, in order to speed up delivery times. That would've made the cold war a lot more interesting.

[@hanzzel6086]

And probably a lot shorter! And who doesn't want to play Fallout irl?

[@alganhar1]

@@hanzzel6086 Given that I recognise the difference between reality and fantasy.... Me. I really do not want to play Fallout irl.... Easier to die in the initial strikes methinks. Certainly less painful!

[@rodh1404]

It's a very practical idea, just ask Elong Musk. SpaceX isn't just trying to reduce delivery times for cargo, they also want to use their rockets for passenger transport around the globe. Doubtless with connecting Hyperloop trains.

[@chadam917]

Imagine how expensive it would be too.

[@chrissouthgate4554]

Some of the early rockets were used as Post delivery systems in 1920's Germany. It may not have had a 100% successful delivery rate.

[@Mr.Dinosalt]

"Testing can be expensive, so if someone has already done testing is better to not repeat the process" Oh boy this applies to sooo many things, many of which do not end well

[@tobimai4843]

Hehe Starfighter.

[@TonboIV]

I'm quite disappointed that none of these procurement schemes involved taking anybody to a strip club. After all, if it works for Glock, it _must_ be a good idea!

[@diestormlie]

Oh, I feel like the bribery is assumed.

[@zeta3341]

​@@diestormlieOh absolutely, these plans Perun came up with to procure all these flaming heaps of garbage would PROBABLY need a bunch of bribery at some point 😁

[@thearpox7873]

On the other hand, a reliable and well-liked aircraft that way overstays its welcome can be a greater trap than the things we've seen here. At least with a terrible aircraft there'll be multiple interests pushing to move on, but beloved antiques - these can stay for generations.

[@ethanyeung6216]

Thinking of the a10, or something else?

[@thearpox7873]

@@ethanyeung6216 It did cross my mind, and some countries like Syria, Romania, and others have airforces that are ancient, but I am not an aircraft enthusiast, so I decided against trying for examples that might not work.

[@alexshevchenko2494]

@@ethanyeung6216 B-52 probably

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

@@alexshevchenko2494 The modern B-52 is not all that much like the older ones, it's quite different. That's kind of the secret as to why they're still in use.

[@alexshevchenko2494]

@@TheShinyFeraligatr I think it fits description of OP perfectly fine. Soon to be a century old plane, that just doesn`t retire.

[@Wub-rv9xx]

mildly related: I looked into firing ports on armored vehicles for fun, and US trials found they somehow had better visibility than turning out of the vehicle. I still don’t know how in god’s name they managed to accomplish this, but whoever designed the trial was an absolute legend.

[@jintsuubest9331]

Maybe they are being peppered by paintball constantly and they have to report a certain set of writing. If they get hit by paintball, they lose large chunk of points.

[@YMandarin]

choosing Animarchy to pick horrible airplanes is a horribly funny idea

[@jm8361]

Multi-service programs have an extra benefit. You can always blame the others services for the issues.

[@Aelxi]

1:06:14 a bit of an abrupt end there sir

[@ISawABear]

Oh are we officially starting the anime crossover era? Wait... how credible is Foxhole as a military procurement background?

[@hoopy_2944]

OMG, didn't expect to see you here! Massive fan :)

[@ISawABear]

@@hoopy_2944 wouldn't miss an episode

[@DrownedLamp9]

Hey guys I've got an ambulance full of *supplies* where do I... woops wrong chat 😅

[@MsZeeZed]

Starting? 🤔

[@EricDKaufman]

Seriously Animarchy, dont fuck ships. Or planes

[@AsbestosMuffins]

the contribution of the Elbonian Airforce to ww2 cannot be understated

[@Ezekiel903]

or the Ambrosini SS4!

[@patvanquish4586]

Whilst the contributions of WW2 to the Emtopian Air Force cannot be more underwhelming.

[@ElementalNimbus]

I deeply appreciate that several of those "Baked in" bad rules, RUSE-AF, you did are very similar if not the exact same as actual rules you've advocated for in the past. Not calling it hypocrisy, context matters a lot in these situations, and blindly following a rule can be as bad as not having one. I am just a bit lawful aligned myself and love how easily these things can go from great rules to AWFUL rules. Edit- As a note, this episode is wonderful. I love all your work but this collab is god-tier.

[@hatman1234]

I've been in Engineering Mgt for many years and this is a master-class of the tactics used to get pet projects up in big business. AI projects are the new "we have to do it no matter what" example. But it covers many tactics used.

[@oompalumpus699]

_I don't trust AI-hype people because not only are these the same kind of people who fall for 'NFT/Crypto' rugpulls, these are also the same kind of people who can crash their computer while trying to make a 'for loop' work._

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

That was both entertaining and fascinating; it felt like a Corruption-101 class. Happy New Year, Perun!

[@MascottDeepfriar]

he did a video a while ago which actually does just that. How Corruption Destroys Armies - Theft, Graft, and Russian failure in Ukraine

[@rifleman2c997]

Animearchy: PE-8 Every War thunder player: *1000 yard stare*

[@notthesharpesttool555]

and the greif behind it, they added a keyboard guided missile (HS 293 A-1 guided bomb) variant as a battlepass vehicle, me with my anti big bomb brain would try to sell the pe-8 as the "One bomb per plane to level cities" or something, a single 5000 kg bomb per plane in large formations would be pretty devastating i'd imagine. (im no military expert, i know that is the bomb's whole weight and not the explosive inside it.)

[@liberator235]

Get Perun in the US Navy immediately so we can own another floating science project we can’t afford to put to sea, let alone fire its guns.

[@batboy555]

Zumwalt

[@Hawkskull]

I thought that Animarchy had gone easy on you, then the outri explained it. I loved the content and it's good to see you adding more hijinks back to the channel, the serious stuff is good, educational and often fills in significant gaps in what else is out there, but this kind of silliness is 100% the perfect change-up. Thank you Perun, keep on keeping on and yyou make Sunday's long drives home much, much easier

[@josea.navarro7586]

This remind me an old (1944) CIA manual on how to sabotage an organization's productivity. It was called “The Simple Sabotage Field Manual”, and the sad part is that is just a description of how many real people works 😂

[@nadoProducer]

Teeny tiny technical correction, hypergolic doesnt mean it explodes on exposure with the outside world, hypergolic mixtures combust upon the constituent ingredients touching each other. Still absolutely a handling nightmare and subject to unscheduled energetic disassembly though.

[@mnxs]

Yes, I noticed that mistake as well. I suppose it's an easy one to make though - most of the binary components in hypergolic propellant systems are themselves so incredibly nasty even in isolation that I suppose you can easily get confused. I mean, ultra-potent oxidizers like red fuming nitric acid or 80+% hydrogen peroxide might not react _hypergolically_ with any other things than suitably reactive fuels, but they'll react violently enough, with enough things, that the difference seems rather academic at first 🫠 And fuels like hydrazine is so incredibly dangerous to be around that a tank leak might as well be considered roughly the same danger as an actual fire: because of the insane toxicity, and the very real risk of an actual fire breaking out anyway... I really does say something about liquid rockets' safety that actual _liquid oxygen_ is considered on the safer side of ingredients.

[@DrCruel]

Everyone at the Defense Acquisition University needs to see this.

[@sofnsad]

They are too busy eating the crayons......

[@DrCruel]

@@sofnsad Oh my sweet summer child.

[@hayleyxyz]

I was NOT expecting an Animarchy collab but I am delighted

[@Feezec]

We are now one step closer to a Perun/Lazerpig collab

[@Gsoda35]

Oh, sweet! sensibility and anarchy collide with a pig, explosions!!

[@HowIsAsh]

@@Feezec If perun wants to lose his credibility then sure

[@OrbitalRose_01]

This week's defense economics lesson: Perun is an absolutely terrifying salesman.

[@The_Knife_Pie]

Love the ending of this ep. "Hope to see you al-." Perun was too focused on clocking off he didn't even give the outro time!

[@Pincer88]

You guys must have had so much fun putting this one together! I absolutely loved it. Have a great new year's eve and a fantastic 2025 to the both of you and all watching. Cheers!

[@rifleman2c997]

For the next challenge: You are the guy in charge of procurement for House Cameron and the Star League. You must build an army that is effective against any sucessor house. However, you are also on the payroll of Stefan Aramis and must sabotage the star League.

[@Doomrider47]

*stares at the mountain of Chargers and refurbed Mackies* I think they did as good of job as they could at the start

[@p_serdiuk]

*looking at the Baron* come on, Tex already talked about how it's done

[@rifleman2c997]

@p_serdiuk Baron is reunification war, I am talking 2750, just before the head of state lost his head.

[@Ostenjager]

>>Clint CLNT-2-3T entered the chat

[@KellAnderson]

So we're getting rid of the entire SLN in favor of Barons...

[@TheGreatWhiteScout]

Good Greif, that was entertaining! Please keep these episodes in mind when you're stuck for topics to cover. Would love to hear one on ships, AFVs, small arms, etc

[@hazardousmaterial5492]

Oh dear lord, the aussies are teaming up

[@zoetje9817]

You missed the part where using many different calibres is a good thing. I mean, think of the redundancy! If you run out of ammo, it’s bad. You, however, have 11 other types to fall back on! Checkmate, Kiwis!

[@richardgagne8488]

Incredibly, the Soviet bomber in later versions use different kind of motors on the same plane...so they need more maintenance teams, differents pieces of repair etc......

[@Sabrowsky]

Oh shit, this is gonna be a certified ghetto classic

[@ashvandal5697]

At first I thought this was a silly bit of fun for the new year; but then when he stated I'm a sabotage agent for Kiwiland I realized this is probably actually super IRL content.

[@hanzzel6086]

57:20 Well, considering that bi-plane was the most successful torpedo bomber *ever* by tonnage sunk, is responsible for one of the most successful sneak attacks of the War, there where a lot of them built that Britain is now trying to offload (making them *extremely* cheap), *and* is extremely easy and cheap to maintain and fly... They might not be the hardest thing to sell to a nation undergoing a *massive* military build up. If necessary you can frame it as a stop-gap purchase that allows the nation to have *something* while the budget recovers from all thd other progams. Then just make sure that the replacement program is plagued by as many problems and delays as possible (you could potentially keep the damn thing in service for 5+ years).

[@maxqiu4134]

@@hanzzel6086 if you could up engine the swordfish and reinforce it some I could see it staying well past it's welcome. Hell if you really wanted to go crazy, with a crap idea, modify them to stream magnetic anomaly detectors behind them and carry a mk 46

[@hanzzel6086]

@maxqiu4134 Ooooo!

[@glennsimpson7659]

Yes, ideally you would re-engine them with the Bristol Taurus, as used in the Albacore - not much more power, but highly prone to unexplained mechanical failure. Ideal in a single engined over-water aircraft.

[@hanzzel6086]

@@glennsimpson7659 Diabolical!

[@daiakunin]

Only the diabolical genius of Perun could figure out a way to gamify defense procurement. Well done Perun and great collaboration! Happy new year everyone!

[@Arraxis_Denacia]

I loved the change of pace with this episode. Absolutely fascinating seeing how one could use your procurement powers for evil. I'd definitely be up for Part 2, or other similar episodes in the future.

[@Chubzic.]

Now I wonder whether the combination of not one but TWO australians in a single video made this video not upside down (because I am definitely the first to come up with this joke)

[@philiphockenbury6563]

It was so upside down it went right side up!

[@Evie-or9bn]

@30:30 ish basically boils down to "the only way to stop a bad guy with a rocket plane is a good guy with a rocket plane". Where have I heard that one before... 😂 Fantastic video, thank you for putting this collab together for our entertainment, delight, and even education.

[@ag7898]

The nice thing about the Q1W1 is that Kiwiland is not that far from the southeast coast of Emutopia. You don't need the distance that a Catalina can travel. That would be overkill.

[@MisdirectedSasha]

I think Emutopia should go all in on the multirole concept and embrace the Universal Mosquito. Day fighter? Mosquito F Mk. XV Night fighter? Mosquito NF Mk. XIX Bomber? Mosquito B Mk. XVI Fighter-Bomber? Mosquito FB Mk. VI Reconnaissance? Mosquito PR Mk. XVI Torpedo bomber/Carrier-based fighter/ASW aircraft? Sea Mosquito TR Mk. 33 Training aircraft? Mosquito T Mk. III (I tried to find the most recent marks in service as of the end of WWII) Are you worried that going all-in on a piston-engine aircraft at the dawn of the jet age might be a bad idea? Don't be! I'm sure Emutopia's talented engineers can figure out how to stick jet engines on a Mosquito somehow.

[@alganhar1]

The issue with the scenario is that the Mosquito was actually a capable platform in all its roles! The scenario requires the platforms be as bad as is possible. Especially as in 1945 the latest piston engine aircraft would not actually be a poor choice for a smaller nation that is not a major power and has a limited budget.... So for a relatively poor nation, with limited money and resources, all those mosquito's would actually be a perfect choice. They are capable platforms, all essentially the same aircraft using the same or similar engines, so you minimise both training and maintenance requirements. Easy access to spares. Only two types of ammunition for the fighter variants. The bomber variants have enough of a payload capacity to be relevant even post war. That list is how to build as effective a strike and light to medium bomber force in 1945 for as cheap as possible. Which is not what the scenario wants....

[@MisdirectedSasha]

@@alganhar1 The Mosquito was very capable, yes, but it first flew in 1940 and was never intended to serve as a dedicated air superiority fighter. And this is a problem for Emutopia if their air force chooses "whoops, all mozzies" as a procurement strategy. Kiwiland would know about this in advance and could arm itself with Bearcats, Furies or Meteor F4s, all of which outclassed the Mosquito as a fighter.

[@RocketSurgn_]

@@MisdirectedSashaAh, but think of the logistics guys happiness about a single airframe air force! Imagine all the parts swapping and combined stockpiles it makes possible! Unless the “consultant” manages to make the “same airframes” largely made from slightly incompatible parts. Then it’s even better!

[@MisdirectedSasha]

@@RocketSurgn_ I mean, the UK and Commonwealth didn't make all those mosquitoes for show. They used the shit out of that plane, and that would probably be reflected in the condition of any war surplus examples Emutopia got its hands on. But in this case, the trap isn't that the airframes are hard to work with. Quite the opposite; the trap is that they get a nice plane that they can do almost anything, so they're incentivized to use it for everything. So Emutopia won't have anything that's not a mosquito. Which is going to be a problem when they invade Kiwiland and run into a bunch of Bearcats or Sea Furies or Meteors.

[@nibs7252]

​@@RocketSurgn_ Build half the mosquitoes in Metric factories, and half in Imperial, same with any spare parts or accessories. Don't label the differences at all.

[@euansmith3699]

I wonder who in the design team thought that "Fireball" was a propitious name for a fight aircraft? Combining Alternative History with Logistics looks like it could be a real gold mine of video subjects 😄😄😄

[@shaider1982]

Ed Nash did a video similar to this where he took Ian Mcollum's Elbonia thought experiment for small arms to airplanes.

[@hanzzel6086]

Ahh, Elbonia. Land of mud. God I love those old Dilbert strips!

[@skepticalbadger]

Ed Nash is awesome.

[@shaider1982]

​@@hanzzel6086 yup, same here

[@VirtuousMarine]

Unexpected yet welcome topic this week. Thank you for your work!

[@iancollier6802]

Thank you so much @PerunAU and @AnimarchyHistory - this was an absolute delight. I vaguely recall asking on animarchy if there was some reason for so many Aussy military youtubers (adding in Juzzie from Ukraine news TV) and asking if there was a hope animarchy and you could ever share a project. I approached this with a hint of fear that you may not live up to my expectations- but you two didn't let me down. I might listen again tomorrow to get the New Year off to a great start. 🙂

[@Edwinthebreadwin]

I know this epsisode was made in jest but I honestly found it more informative than some of the studies you've done of how things go right! Thanks and happy new year :)

[@joellb2918]

I'm sorry Perun, but you already did the episode of procurement induced pain with your episode on Canadian Procurement. Regards from Canada :P

[@MM22966]

"FIREBALL??!! That sounds awesome-cool, daddy-o! Let's buy it!...Wait, you didn't mean it is a LITERAL fireball, did you?"

[@firetruck1255]

The moment the word “bomber” was uttered I said to myself “it’s the PE8 isn’t it?” AND OH LORDY I WAS RIGHT got a very good chuckle out of that

[@roberthenderson6593]

This entire exercise is absolutely BRILLIANT! The applications are EVERYWHERE! Well done!

[@vgramatski]

Funny, the Pe-8 case presented here is exactly how the F-16 won the tender for a new fighter for the Bulgarian Air Force. It lost the detailed military contest which was a complex scoring system of combat capabilities, procurement and maintenance cost, armament costs, economic offset, pilot and ground crew training and skill requirements, etc. versus the Eurofighter, Rafale, F-18 and Gripen. In fact, the Gripen came on top based on the scoring system. The government scrapped the contest results, declared the purchase "politically and diplomatically motivated within the Euro-atlantic context", opened direct negotiations with Lockheed Martin and procured 8 F-16 Block 70 ... with 100% advance payment with no specified delivery date and no contractual obligations for LMT to return money in case of delays or issues. Two years later, another 100% advance payment for another batch of 8, while the original one was already postponed. Should be examined as one of the worst ever ways in history to sign a military hardware procurement contract.

[@davidwilliams9302]

29:00 but you didn't say it was rocket mail for only 4¢!! That changes my whole opinion. Go Rocket Mail!!!

[@jimtalbott9535]

Canceled items from that delivery are worth a fair amount now, as I recall.

[@casbot71]

You think _this_ is bad? You should see Australia procure submarines ...

[@BruceBabcock-n4y]

Canada: Hold my beer.

[@aguyhere7945]

Wasn't that mess mostly because the French shipyards were being very French and spent almost ten years doing a whole lot of nothing?

[@glennsimpson7659]

No, it was because Australia had bought French because the Prime Minister at the time was a Francophile and enjoyed trips to Paris more than trips to Tokyo, and when that PM was ousted in a party room coup, reality was able to return.

[@williamgalbraith3621]

Thanx Perun and Animarchy for a truly despicable way to subvert those dastardly emutopians! I'm looking forward to your installments in 2025!

[@grahamthom8597]

Great episode to end the year with. I got a good chuckle out of it. This was also a good look into how procurement can go so horribly wrong. Happy New Year to you and all the viewers. 🙃

[@LastRookie]

Günter... Get ze Pig... Ze LazerPig

[@marcusott2973]

Oh Nein! Nicht das LaserSchwein.

[@Lizardo451]

There was a whole book on the program. The fuel of the 163 had a tendency to dissolve the pilot. It was so fast the pilot had trouble aiming, so they put in a photo cell that activated the gun when a shadow of the bomber fell over the plane.

[@karl0ssus1]

*The photocell would activate 8 upwards firing recoilless rifles buried in the wing. That this idea was even conceived of, let alone actually implemented is an enduring testament to the power of amphetamine psychosis

[@peterrucksack]

What a treat!

[@SnakebitSTI]

It wasn't the fuel but the oxidizer - highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide.

[@humblescribe8522]

@@SnakebitSTI True, although the hydrazine/methanol mix they used for fuel isn't very friendly either. Methanol dissolves rubber so sealing tanks is tricky and hydrazine is very unpleasant.

[@legoeasycompany]

@@humblescribe8522 You mean fuel that if not mixed in the "Goldilocks" range either doesn't work (not enough power produced) or works too well (explodes more rapidly than wanted) isn't that friendly? Also remember it's very sensitive to shock which is perfectly fine for an aircraft with the landing gear of... a single skid, so one better hope there's nothing left in those tanks

[@charliefisher1375]

Woahh, crossover episode!

[@connorbrooks7501]

This was a very well-done and entertaining demonstration of how procurement can and does go wrong. Thank you Perun and Animarchy

[@ZEtruckipu]

Very cool video Perun, i enjoyed this format a lot. And long Live the Kiwi motherland 🥝 !

[@judyhawkins6584]

Really good belly laughs are invaluable at this point, thank you! Units of measurement: I spent 18 years of my life on a project which used both imperial and metirc units. Yes, it was a gadget first designed in 1823, with many redesigns across several countries: the concertina.

[@Captainkebbles1392]

If we just randomly pick Soviet, German, and French stuff together i think we can get there

[@torinnbalasar6774]

Let's toss in a little Japanese just to be sure we have a truly diverse set of terrible options.

[@pradhyudh]

India,India,India, Add Swiss,fin,German, british and Israeli systems too The only two countries we don't buy weapons are china and Pakistan.😂😂😂

[@Alan.livingston]

I think you all under sell the fact that uncle sam alone has procured many airforces worth of ill conceived shitboxes throughout the years.

[@Remington53]

@@Alan.livingston A version of this exercise for early 50s jets would surely make everything use Westinghouse engines.

[@Captainkebbles1392]

​@@torinnbalasar6774but some of their stuff worked

[@RfromN]

Slightly different but still a typical Perun POWER Point Presentation. Thank you for making a sunday afternoon more enjoyable.

[@cathyparker8694]

Thank you from Kiwiland!!! Really enjoy your videos and as a Kiwi love your Emutopia vs Kiwiland scenarios

[@Telamon8]

This is one of the best ~~Elbonia~~ Emutopia videos I've seen; not merely selecting whatever worst items based on whatever standards, but how to rig an entire procurement system so that literally anything can get through. Absolutely brilliant!

[@taxirob2248]

I JUST watched Animarchy's history of Soviet fighter jets this morning. Why did I wait two weeks? Couldn't tell ya, but it's a helluva coincidence.

[@dashaunl1110]

Now we need ones for tanks, rifles, and ships. I guess that’s three more.

[@edwinmartin9120]

ships are in the news right now💀☠ "what is going on in shipping"😎

[@Heegaherger]

I liked this, please do another. Emutopia needs a ground package. This could include every thing from small arms to tanks, though dividing small/man portable arms and vehicles would probably be a good idea. Vehicles to include tank, personnel combat transport, General purpose vehicle, artillery system(s), AA vehicles/systems, etc. Small arms to include Service weapon, side arm, LMG, anti tank etc. To make things more interesting, an odd ball could be thrown in as well. Keep doing what you are doing. I love your content and style. "As we all know, all great military and economic projects only ever begin one way... with slides!"

[@therealergo]

Been excited for this episode ever since you mentioned it so many months ago. I'm ready for some excellent procurement decisions!

[@cerberus276]

I can't put into words how much I enjoyed this, it almost feels like a late Christmas present. You've struck gold with this collaboration and would love to see more. 👏👏👏👏👏👏 Excellent content!

[@karolj.4833]

19:43 I could have bet money on the Komet being mentioned 😂 Love the vid, great idea

[@hplmode6116]

My warthunder presets needed this ( I will be the reason my team loses )