Bulelani Ngcuka says a call from prosecutor Gerda Ferreira was the beginning of a nightmare for him

Former Director of Public Prosecutions, Bulelani Ngcuka, says a call from prosecutor Gerda Ferreira was the beginning of a nightmare for him. In his newly released book, Bulelani Ngcuka: The Sting in the Tale, he touches on how Ferreira excitedly told him they had evidence linking then deputy president Jacob Zuma to arms deal corruption. However, he made a decision not to prosecute. Nineteen years later, Zuma's corruption case is in court, although his trial is yet to get underway.
Ngcuka talks about his journey.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika, DSTV channel 405, for more details.

[@mxolisiinnocent1995]

From this interview i've learned that we've never been and we'll never be equal before the law.

[@user-iw7ir3df6b]

Now I understand why JZ is not happy about Billy Downer ont this arms deal case

[@user-os4zq8co5f]

I now full agree people must vote mk

[@shandukanimakuya2473]

What about stealing Government money and destroying the infrastructures

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

🤣🤣🤣

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

So a bribe was arranged for someone who had nothing to do with negotiations and we are to believe Zuma is not correct when he spoke about a plan to eliminate him? This sounds exactly like the plan Zuma spoke about, and in the process there is an offer of a job to his wife and the wife is purported as someone who was suspicious about it while in the same vein Bulelani says the job had nothing to do with him it’s just a pure job based on her skills but later on Zuma is charged and that happened just after the wife accepted the job! Zuma had always been hated for simply not benefiting like those Chris Hani pointed out as beneficiaries, they all saw Zuma as a threat and had to remove him at all cost!

[@Phila-zd3ps]

Hhayi ngiyamvuma umsholozi ungumhlanyelwa ngempela wenzeni uzuma 😢😢😢😢???

[@diatilenthoba8262]

I enjoyed this interview...it was short though.... please Xoli invite him again we need more.

[@nhlanhlakubheka222]

Something doesn't make sense why do you want to pay bribe to someone who is not part and parcel of the procurement because Zuma was no where near those dealing with arms deal

[@siyabongadlamini8355]

There are so many Grey areas around the arms deal that Bulelani could have given more clarity on and vindicate himself from all the speculations and misunderstandings about his role on the matter . Because it appears that he just wanted to paint himself as someone who was very neutral and innocent. I am of a view that he still has to try harder and give more for us to believe that he did not play politics in all of this .

[@nomngcefe1688]

So he charged Zuma,shortly after, his wife became Deputy president.

[@bcknowthyself]

Ask yourself why till today he's not sentenced. There is no proof of what they claim they found against him. He's 82 years now.

[@sikhumbuzolukashe4431]

He knows exactly what Hani meant about comrades become indebted to capital. So, he must present himself as if he knew none what Hani was referring to. They came back from exile with nothing but, white business bought some of them homes in affluent places, cars, their children lavished with bursaries etc

[@thembinxesi3091]

What🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@izzygalela7984]

Yhooo... And so many of them. The CODESA bunch kakhulu!! satani

[@sibongileviolet887]

Bakhohlakele abantu be ANC🤞

[@sahngcobo]

Mr Ngcuka is very good at not allowing the idea that he could be bought ...but he is brilliant

[@groupupsouthafrica]

Very clear, he was paid for approving the case against Zuma. Now it makes sense

[@t.chlatshwayo6434]

Well Zuma turned out to be the 1st actual President who did well for the poor Black people in SA.

[@SydneyD28-6]

The answer lies in the song: "Wenzeni uZuma, Wenzeni uZuma kauphendule..." At the heart of Zuma's demonization is Thabo Mbeki's mission which is in fact an instruction from his(Mbeki's) handlers to destroy Zuma by all means necessary

[@mawandesisilana1725]

Two different interviews same ppl, there is another video three years ago where Ngcuka and Xoli sitting for the same conversation. In that conversation he talks about circumstantial evidence they had against Zuma and how he refused to prosecute "Half of my team because of the circumstantial evidence we decided not to prosecute." He even mention that when aiming for the king you must make sure you never miss.

[@groupupsouthafrica]

What im getting from this conversation is that he approved the case against Zuma in return, his wife was going to get a deputy president from Zuma , now i get it

[@vusiradebe7098]

I don't understand why the president of that time mbeki didn't call the deputy President and the story to him before dismissed him .as i lesson to ngukca mbeki with zuma there we more friend but how come they failed to aks zuma about the evidence are before them rather to expel him .i don't think it was a must move infect they hate zuma both of them

[@nhlanhlakubheka222]

Hater driven by propaganda will never stop insulting Zuma claiming Zuma is corrupt base on those manufacturers case.

[@israelmthembu4435]

This is very painful that for 19 years Zuma is a thief, corrupt, rapist and in and out various courts today he’s JZ. What is prompting Ngcuka’s confession if not marketing his book.

[@groupupsouthafrica]

How can you say it was a good decision to arrest ACE yet he says he has never seen the documents 😂, so where is he getting his conclusion from

[@gengappodcast]

Mr Ngcuka needs to go to David Mashabela Podcast

[@senormystery721]

We are our own worst enemy

[@nomarussia5085]

I think in isizulu it’s called “inganekwane”🎻

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

🦺🦺🦺 weh le le 🤣🤣

[@srininaidoo]

He should rename the book "TELLING TALL TALES". He is a plain old gossip monger

[@sikhumbuzolukashe4431]

He was the MEC at the time Xolani. Follow the sequence correctly

[@siphosethuzulu9797]

Xoli is determined to push a narrative, they told him 3 times that jz was mec

[@sinethembagabada265]

Now why was the case against Zuma dropped? Due to the unlawful spying on Jacob Zuma and still did not find any fault... Again there was no link of Zuma to the arms deal

[@hlenganihobyani4864]

The case is still going on for what eventualities we don't know

[@tiisetsomvula6429]

He never charged those who were riding gravy train remember that was the height of corruption in the ANC

[@izzygalela7984]

😂The wife was part of those, he couldn't sell out family friends

[@sabeloprince68]

Xoli Mngambi seems to be more interested on JZ matters but i dont see him talking about other corrupt Political Leaders i wonder if his working on the interest of Newsroom or his one of those who are on someone payroll .

[@RalphBiyela-th8zv]

Xoli is a paid propaganda paddler

[@mgcinenindlangamandla6544]

These guys are just skewed in their reporting self censored and partisan

[@zandlekekana3839]

Woow what an interview .

[@thembstrella4581]

Why do i get the feeling that Bulela is in the dock, on the trial🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

Mbeki was asking Ncuka to drop the investigation indirectly. When he asked him if he should not do for Zuma what he did for Makwetu.

[@tiisetsomvula6429]

Why not charge him when he was an MEC ?

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

To say It was correct to charge Ace on the basis of knowing people proves that this fellow is on the payroll of the CR17 because he also took a case that was not winnable to court against Zuma!

[@aykay9328]

How I miss the days of black excellence and stinging bite of scorpions, merely seeing their car around your area would give me chills and made me to be proud to live an honest life. The country at the time was a beacon of hope for the whole continent until corruption, smear campaigns and blatant looting by the anc polokwane regiment destroyed our dreams and hopes for this country, it produced thieving of unprecedented proportions and the self enrichment of very entitled politicians and their immediate families with no regard for citizens of this country. There came names that nowhere during struggle were heard of such as Gupta,SA spiralled down the drain to a point of no return, a dream deferred to many of us young black south African professionals. The years that SA was, sadly not anymore,now just an image of its former self.

[@nickjames2096]

The Guptas disturbed the system that was at play from the days of apartheid, I'm not a defender of them but as S.A we fail to see that the system was flawed from the get go.......how corporations like Absa, Sanlam and the rest were formed gives light as to the fact that the Guptas are a small fry in the whole corruption saga

[@zamaonceya8736]

i was in varsity black excellence was booming we couldn't wait to graduate sadly the unfortunate happened

[@anelemlozana6933]

Can we have But'Xoli interview tatu Bulelani again, I feel there's still a lot of things we can get from him.

[@mawandesisilana1725]

He did three years ago and there is no consistency from the side of Ngcuka I feel

[@karlntuli6411]

Xoli Why not ask him about big fish and spy tapes are true or fake

[@syabongsmfeka6720]

unamanga uBulelani kudala babebopha uzunge lokuketula uMsholozi.

[@zodwagumede5700]

Yoooo still Zuma is burning 🔥 im heartbroken 💔

[@Basebazuza]

Xoli wish Zuma was found guilty and jailed, u can c the hate FOR ZUMA is deep.

[@Ntuthu-ZA]

5:09 was Chris Hani not talking about the BEE shares and free houses?

[@TSG0195]

The other relevant question should be "what was the real relationship between Mbeki and Phumzile"?

[@lungadlamini]

This interview makes one think that JZ''s is facing trumped up charges. I am now convinced more than before that JZ has a point in his asking of Downer to excuse himself from the case.

[@thandosdance1504]

They have always been trumped up.

[@vuyomaweni470]

This is cooked u can just tell I don't know why now Ngcuka is dishonest🤞🤞

[@simplyfootball6216]

How do you know it's cooked?

[@ntuthukomkhize1704]

Lol cooked 😅

[@groupupsouthafrica]

How is it cooked, please share the evidence of investigation

[@dlaminisabelo2482]

How do you know he's dishonest, unless you were there yourself. In that case you can tell us what you really saw. Write your own book.

[@sibabalwematshikiza3208]

How can you say that there is a prima facie case and decide not to prosecute with the lame excuse that the case is not winnable? Since when do prosecutors take matters to court only when they can guarantee a conviction? Prima facie evidence means proof of an issue, the burden of proving which is upon the party giving that evidence. In the absence of further evidence from the other side, the evidence becomes conclusive. I don't know how many interviews we have had to listen to regarding what went down. Let's move on, please.

[@Tsebomjiks9789]

True sibaba...the mentioning of 'prima facie case' was just meant to hand over JZ to the vicious media to prosecute him thereby tarnishing his image so that the people dont accept him as a president. That was the whole aim - we are not children to incapable to see this who supported and loved him - unfortunately it did not work well entirely. Given how the media tried to stop JZ from becoming the President, I think many people though that JZ was not educated to be the president so it is a lie when they say he was not fit because of the arms deal and rape case - these two cases were made to shift the real reason why they though he was not fit. They did not think most South Africans were going to by the story of preventing JZ from becoming the president simply because he is not educated but if painted as a criminal then that would sway people to dislike him.

[@sibz_world]

The likes of Mr Bulelani Ngcuka, Thuli Madonsela and Vusi Phikoli give me that little hope for SouthAfrica…💔

[@karuri-xz1um]

The way he give this story. I miss Eastern cape.

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

This sounds like a brain wash attempt, we are being made to believe that Mbeki has no bad blood with Zuma and they also were of the same feeling

[@siphosakhemajola9136]

Poor guy even decided to write a book😂😂

[@BanditZA]

I can only pray that the scorpions are brought back

[@maitsejabu2396]

Bulelani Ngcuka you hate President Jacob Zuma and you wanted to tarnish the image of u Baba Zuma to pave the way for your wife!!!

[@luyandothandobuhlebethu6712]

Very true.. they were building their own family empire with Zuma's name and forgetting what's right for the people..

[@sikhumbuzolukashe4431]

Rumours.

[@Siyamthanda123]

Old head talking like they dismantled everything in 1994. Nah bro, y’all went to prison just to shop amongst them in Woolworths. Structurally, nothing changed.

[@phantomt2427]

Facts... That's precisely why Chris Hani had to be silenced because he was actually for the people

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

What exactly do you think should be changed?

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

What are you changing today to show us that you are better than those you blame for going to prison? At least they have done something tangible. Show us how you are better than them and stop blaming them.

[@thandosdance1504]

Please don't mention Woolworths. The first time I entered that shop was just after we voted in 1994 and it truly felt strange. It was Woolworths in Claremont. I felt the same though when I first visited Dolce n Gabbana, I was just browsing but the service was great. I think subconsciously the brain knows unfamiliar territories. The mind is very powerful hence Biko said "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.

[@luyandothandobuhlebethu6712]

Ncguka paved a way for his wife to become Deputy President, he is not hiding he did not have confidence on Zuma.

[@tshoarelomphahlele7543]

I believe him!

[@khulekanicyprian7307]

He was smarter than you. And he was not willing to sell out. Now you act surprised along with us. You know what was planned maybe along the way you were sidelined

[@philanimpanza9364]

Two grown man send by madam

[@tiisetsomvula6429]

What? Another book about Zuma chief pls man has your money dried up ?

[@Moyopheus]

Tale or tail. I think there may be a typo in his book 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@thabokabai4188]

It’s a play on words: tale (story) and tail (referring to the Scorpions).

[@Moyopheus]

@@thabokabai4188 I hope so Thabo, because the things I have seen....

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

Chris Hanni is a hero today only because he died early. Had he lived longer, he would be blamed for this and that. Mandela was a hero until he died. Now that he is dead, Zuma is going to say he got the mandate of arms deal from him.

[@victormkhaliphi2778]

I like your nuanced point. I'm always careful to glorify struggle icons who died early because there are no guarantees what would have happened.

[@Sbonelo_]

You either die a hero or live long enough to be the Villian. Mandela would've been a God like figure had he been sentenced to Death during the treason trial. However he lived long enough to be a muppet

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

@@Sbonelo_ what are you doing better than Mandela then?

[@Sbonelo_]

@@davidmotlaloe5628 ukhuluma amasimba wen. I am not in a position of power. To compare an ordinary citizen to a Man who was in power is dumb

[@serematrust119]

-_- This is mad juicy...

[@housemusic977]

Why ppl hate Zuma kanti

[@thandosdance1504]

I remember the leaked voice recording between Bulelani n Mbeki about arresting Zuma during the time of the Polokwane conference

[@bakergovender3291]

I just would like to take the listener's to the matter of the past PAC president Clarence Makwete, where by Mbeki arranged for someone to business house to pay his legal cost. Is this not bribery. We should investigate which business leaders carried these costs

[@aykay9328]

First investigate your corrupt brothers who took advantage of Zuma

[@bakergovender3291]

@@aykay9328 the one that cross the border from Zimbabwe.

[@bakergovender3291]

@@aykay9328 People like u that this country is corrupt

[@aykay9328]

@@bakergovender3291 you wish,I'm not from Zimbabwe, am South African, very much African, and even if I were I did not have to cross the ocean from india to SA

[@bakergovender3291]

@@aykay9328 I knew you haven't done Histroy with 30 % matric pass rate. What make u say I am from India. The next think u will say I am a racist. Do a simple Google check or ask some body to help u. And see who the first nation of this country.

[@vuyilecungcu2336]

I waisted my data

[@luyandothandobuhlebethu6712]

Ngcuka do not like Zuma even now..

[@hlenganihobyani4864]

But has JZ received the money from Schabir Shaik? and if yes what it was for?

[@SiyabongaNgubane-wb6kv]

If no, what on green earth was Dawner all about?

[@user-os4zq8co5f]

How come the anc government let go of this intellectual man in the npa.

[@vuyilecungcu2336]

You don't know how corrupt is Ngcuka

[@innocentianellymtsoeni9487]

The guy was corrupt. He was the reason why the case was thrown out of court. Don't you know about the recording where by he said you made my day. Zuma was out and the wife was in

[@SydneyD28-6]

Corruption forms the DNA of the ANC

[@mulalor318]

Mer Ngcuka is aging well. he looks way younger than his Age.

[@lwandlezondi9658]

Who paid for so much airtime for this nonsense of the book?

[@mawethudyalivane2069]

Nonsense in what sense? Because it touches the name of your 'Baba'?? Pls sleep chief!!

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

@@mawethudyalivane2069 some people can destroy their country and livelihood for one corrupt person like Zuma.

[@lwandlezondi9658]

@@mawethudyalivane2069 ,I don't think you deserve an intelligent answer but I will offer one because I am kind.This Ngcuka person is the reason for most of the mess our country find itself under.He failed to do his job and meddled in politics as a result a corrupt Jacob Zuma became a President and the rest is history.Why did He brief Mbeki immediately about plan to pursue Zuma,what type of Prosecutorial head compromises a case by immediately informing many people before even getting evidence.This fool told his wife and told the Minister and the President instead of doing his job,gathering enough evidence and follow the case quietly without compromising it and then once all that is done,present a case and prosecute Zuma.Nothing in the Prosecutorial conduct says this moron must inform politicians and his wife the moment He hears a person can be implicated and it is for that reason that a clearly corrupt individual had his case dismissed and then became more corrupt and looted our money,because of this moron who now wants to profit from his stupidity and two morons,yourself and the other moron commenting are celebrating him.

[@fananelsonmbambo9040]

@@davidmotlaloe5628 if you can stop tribalism maybe your brain can function again

[@davidmotlaloe5628]

@@fananelsonmbambo9040 where is tribalism in my comments above? Who supported and voted Zuma into presidency. Was it not all South Africans? Why do you burn the beautiful cities which you are not able to rebuild because of a man who sold the country to Guptas and stole money and so many people lost their livelihood. Where wisdom in that. Something is very wrong with the black man. There is a common saying by Europeans that say “give a white mam a brick and he will build a city. Give a black a brick and he will destroy the city”the simple question is how many cities have we build since 1994? How many have we managed destroy since we took over the government? I think you know the answer to these questions. I don’t have inferiority complex. But facts are in fron of me and you and facts can’t change

[@rsapolitics8378]

NewzroomAfrika this is wrong, why everytime call this guy Ngcuka, we all know this is just a triabalist dishonest individual. Why as South Africans must we always listen to him cause everything he says or ever said is just to support the narrative he has been pushing for years. Come on guys

[@user-vm5ps5st9y]

Zuma is a hero hands out .u want to block his way to next president.ayiko yonke leyo nifuna ukumgqibela ephila.umona phansi

[@thandosdance1504]

So the Ngcuka family set themselves up at the expense of President Zuma. Bulelani is contradicting himself. At first ge said Downer et.al. had no evidence then turns around saying there was prima facie evidence. Amaxhosa akuthi ngamaxoki qha.

[@SiyabongaNgubane-wb6kv]

Wenzeni Zuma

[@sibonisopatricnkosi2579]

Why are you guys so obsessed about J ZUMA just leave him alone to enjoy his pansion in peace

[@phelelanimafuleka3854]

Zuma is the best President of the country and had a good character everyone wants to have a piece of cake. Everyday is a Zuma day he's long gone but news are being made out of his name, propaganda machine work overtime to produce something new that will further diminish his character. I love Jacob Zuma soo much♥️

[@aykay9328]

Why blame apartheid for its ills which died in 1994, it's because of the ramifications that are still felt even now,same with Zuma his thieving and ignorance has sunk the country's economy.

[@Tsebomjiks9789]

Really Pheleni, uqinisile. Out of so many South Africans why JZ? What is special with him? Even today Ngcuka wants JZ in jail for ever. Why Ngcuka still wants him inside? He says JZ's case was 'unprosecutable' back then but now or today he can be prosecuted successfully. Really why JZ is still 'relevant' to people like Ngcuka, Mbeki, bloggers here, etc? Yet he is seen to be the 'stupid' person with no education. Then why an educated person is running after someone who is illiterate and smart? Really I am struggling to get answers to these questions.

[@thabisomosia5848]

very true they are messing themselfs out....they've build an successfull organisation but seems like they are running it down.....THABO MBEKI AND J ZUMA is to be blame

[@musamkhize9328]

Don't ever played a game of blaming,you won't succeed.

[@aykay9328]

Blame for ,?

[@hettiebouwer1015]

With all due respect has Mr Ngcuka ever counted the cost of not prosecuting Mr Zuma? IF Jacob Zuma had been prosecuted and found guilty, then perhaps South Africans would not be in the dilemma, hardship, hunger, homelessness, dire straits, and the list goes on, we now find ourselves in.

[@fanamlawuli6761]

Rubbish

[@thembstrella4581]

Double lwabish😡

[@thobisilekhiva9033]

You talk rubbish

[@user-ot2uh5bl4c]

You have a thinking problem wena, any proof of money stolen by Mr. Zuma?. Main Stream Media feeds you propaganda and you believe it.

[@0fent5e]

so he was supposed to be prosecuted without evidence. Your hatred for Zuma is just too much

[@musamkhize9328]

Sellout